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Hello all Ive just ordered my universal on Orange, for delivery tomorrow, they are giving it to me for free on upgrade.
So now because I often use over my monthly minute allowance and having a few friends around the world I would like to use a VOIP service.
The only one I know of is Skype, as I am fairly new to this type of thing. So can anyone recommed a service that is cheap, easy to use, Universal compatible.
As for call costs I would like a service that is fairly cheap to call both landlines and mobiles. The mobiles would only really be in the UK, if that matters.
Any help is really appreciated. Many Thanks
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
Where did you manage to get version 3? - On the website you mentioned below I can only find 2.2 to buy for around 30 USD...
lutzh said:
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
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what if you use a BT headset like the JABRA? will the sound be routed to the the BT headset or to the external speaker?
matzie said:
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
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I use plusnet and love it and use the voip sevice to call landlines (free) from my laptop but I would love to know how to use my vario to do it. I presume I would do it via wifi through the broadband but dont know how. Please tell me if you can - thanks. I do have unlimited gprs but I would assume that I couldnt use plusnet this way as it is not broadband etc.
I'm using SJPhone!
It's for free
http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html
Hi all,
I am considering buying the i-mate JasJam for business use by field workers, to use a web based application for maintenance. One of my biggest concerns is the requirement to lock down components of the unit to prevent unauthorised use - for example:
- restrict PocketIE to only the webapp site
- disable video calling
- remove unneeded apps
- disable email
etc.
No one from our "friendly" carrier (Telstra) can help me out - I need to use their service as the 850MHz band NextG network has the coverage and range that I require. I know that you can restrict IE5/6 to one or more websites using content advisor, but can't find out if PocketIE has the same registry keys.
Before I get flamed for not allowing my field workers free and full access to the web (and the capabilities of the phone), Telstra's data charges in Australia are ridiculously expensive - $30 per month for 70Mb + 25c/Mb after. Since I am covering the data charges, I think it is only fair to pay for what is used for my business.
Has anyone had any experience in handset modifications after delivery?
Thanks,
Mark.
This maybe what your looking for :-
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/kioskengine/?en
regards
Rob
Are there any clients available, or other hacks to let my devices hook up with the T-Mobile hot [email protected] service? Not so much a samsung fan... Thanks
I have the [email protected], and currently use this feature with a Nokia 6086 and a Blackberry Curve, both work well. It would be cool to have my Windows Mobile Phone (HTC Advantage) working on UMA as well. I've have many lengthy calls with TMobile about this, and even tested the HP Ipaq UMA phone on thier network. To no avail, TMobile has not been willing to provide details of setting up UMA on potentially compatible devices, and to date, I haven't seen any Windows Mobile devices that can work on the [email protected] The general consensus is that TMobile will release the succcesor to the Wing (once that model has sold out) with a Kineto UMA client built-in. But, if they do this, it is unlikely that other Windows Mobile devices will work, as TMobile would want their customers to purchase the new device. For the moment, I wish that TMobile would upgrade their data network to a higher speed. It's coming, but taking too long for my taste.
I believe that UMA might be hardware based but then again, what do i know?
Clarifications?
UMA and Windows Mobile Devices - [email protected]
I have an iPAQ 910c. This has WM 6.1. I too would like to get a WM 6.1 device to work on the [email protected] network.
I had inquired of Bernard Debbasch at Vitendo Systems, Inc. (an outfit that does the programming for this) about a mod to allow WM devices to use Unlicense Mobile Access to get to [email protected] services. Here is the thread:
-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard Debbasch [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:51 AM
To: Ron Rossi
Subject: RE: From Website
Hello Ron,
Our company is focused on working with operators and their OEM. We do not
work directly with consumers or individual cellphones. FYI, the addition of
UMA on a cellphone is quite intrusive and cannot really be done as a
downloadable application.
Regards,
Bernard Debbasch
Vitendo Systems, Inc.
Tel: +1 (949) 955-0648
Cell: +1 (949) 310-7148
Fax: +1 (949) 258-5935
Web: www.vitendo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: From Website
Email: [email protected]
Name: Ron Rossi
Company: Greenberg Traurig
Tel: 303-679-0200
Interest: Newport - UMA Softphone - I have a [email protected] system set up and
a couple cell phones with the UMA feature. Can this solution work on an
iPAQ 900 Series PDA phone? It has 802.11 and GSM/SIM card. What is
eintailed? Thank you.
submit: Submit
I posted a similar question somewhere on xda. What exactly does he mean by intrusive? Seems like a vague reply. As is we aren't prepared to be very "intrusive" with our phones...
If UMA is a protocol I don't see why a bridge couldn't be written to disable the radio stack when the @Home is detected and enable the call through the Wi-Fi connection with the proper protocol in place. How would T-Mobile ever know?
Proprietary hardware sucks but it's the cheapest VoIP I've ever seen... outside of Skype and the like.
TMobile Shadow II
theformula said:
Are there any clients available, or other hacks to let my devices hook up with the T-Mobile hot [email protected] service? Not so much a samsung fan... Thanks
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I just got the Tmo Shadow II, and the UMA thingy works very very well.
In fact I did not even activate the 9.99 plan for unlimited calls. It just worked (may be a bug with tmo so far) but I am not sure if tmo intends it that way.
I would not even mind if Tmo just used the minutes from my minute bucket, and the UMA is purely providing me extended coverage at work or elsewhere where cell signal is poor.
NOW all you SMART hackers.. I am willing to provide a dump from my phone for all you folks who want to give it a shot, "Make it work for rest of WM devices"
pankul said:
I just got the Tmo Shadow II, and the UMA thingy works very very well.
In fact I did not even activate the 9.99 plan for unlimited calls. It just worked (may be a bug with tmo so far) but I am not sure if tmo intends it that way.
I would not even mind if Tmo just used the minutes from my minute bucket, and the UMA is purely providing me extended coverage at work or elsewhere where cell signal is poor.
NOW all you SMART hackers.. I am willing to provide a dump from my phone for all you folks who want to give it a shot, "Make it work for rest of WM devices"
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+1
And intrusive to these kind of companies would be cooking a new ROM.
Any word on this? I really need to find a way to get this to work on my Titan WM 6.1 if at all possible. I work from home and cell coverage ends just down the road. I would just go ahead and get a TMobile phone but they don't have coverage in this area so if I did it would only be good at my house.
I am glad to read it here.
willing to dump
I am willing to dump the ROM guys.
provided, (since its my wife's phone)
she does not loose her data.
rom dump wont include contacts and other personal data on the phone.
please just provide a link to the thread with instructions, and i will provide the dump.
so... now I broke down and got a new phone. A G-1. I still want [email protected] to work cuz I may just use the Seimens just for that if I could. I'll wait and see how the ROM dump info works out. If someone will read through pankul's wife's ROM.
htc-shadow II 2009 UMA-need your way to activate
It should work w/o using the minutes on UMA.
The WiFi connection works fine on my phone but uses the talk time minutes.
UMA-need your way to activate
I have the path with the following on my phone:
\Windows\UMA
PS
receivedSetting
rolling
savednet
UMAButtonPush
It does me do good to Hit the UMA icons, as they are only pieces w/o the actual application.
If you got a clu on what to do, please reply on share your dump in \Windows\UMA
uma - mmmm!
i spoke today to orange UK, and the adviser that i regularly speak to advised me that UMA is a network thing, and is added or part of a networks own rom, or can be added via an update from the said network.
its orange and vodafone's big thing in the UK.
most handsets that support are the Blackberry's and the nokia's
Straight from the lips of HTC via their tech support bods
Any device that uses WIFI can be made to use UMA software, it's down to the network provider to supply the software either within a ROM or as a patch. Or via a 3rd party to supply a download, then you just need the help to configure to network.
Once the software is on the device, it just needs the info from the network to allow you to configure it.
So all we really need is a 'generic' UMA client for WinMo that does the following?
- detect the nominated wireless network
- checks for access to the UMA servers at the provider
- connects to the above, and routes all previous GSM Traffic thru
the nice shiny UMA connection
- shuts off the GSM radio until such time that any of the above
are no longer available.
Not being a programmer, that seems awfully simple. If I were a programmer, it would probably most likely be MORE difficult.
As OrangeUK are now offering UMA for free (on supported handsets) I don't think it will be long until there is a WinMo UMA client.
Obviously the Android / Tmo G1 has it already - and it'll be hard-coded with Tmo's UMA servers. A little hackage should see you able to change the server to which it connects. A little hackage on your home network should let you find out what the server is too.
How does the billing side of it work? Initially my thought was by IMEI - so what if I borrow a friend's UMA phone, if it's by IMEI then he'd get the bills. Which would be nice, but a little impractical and unethical.
So the conclusion is that UMA *must* integrate somehow with the radio-stack of the device, which must be able to pass a unique identifier of the subscriber (i.e. USIM Serial) through UMA. This, too, could be open to hacking of the bad type - hard coding of USIM Serial into the UMA client etc. So further thought makes me now think that the UMA client and the radio-stack keep some form of 'constant contact' - I guess in a similar way to RSAP works over bluetooth.
These are just my thoughts. I don't even have a UMA phone. But I know I want one.
Update: On Orange UK - these are the 'entries' required.
UMA Protocol = UMA V 1.0.3 (this is defaulty any way)
Take tick out of use default UNC address (if there)
Enter UNC address 'unc.singlephone.orange.co.uk'
Provisioning UNC port '14001' think that's default anyway
Take tick out of box for use default provisioning SEGW Address
Enter SEGW address 'singlephone.orange.co.uk'
SEGW certificate select 'Equifax Secure Certificate Authority'
(this is all taken from a Blackberry forum, but gives the info needed.)
UMA
I don't know if you guys are still interested in the UMA for WIN MObile or not but I went into my htc-shadow II 2009 and explored the windows folder, while it was connected to my pc and I found a UMA service cab file in there. So I was wondering if we could use that cab to install the UMA on windows mobile phones that doesn't have the UMA feature already installed. I attached the UMA cab below that hopefully someone will be able to try on their win mo phone and post a result back on here, I am curious to find it out since I am wanting to ditch my Shadow 2009 for a different win mo phone. If any additonal files are needed let me know, and I will try to help.
**Edit** I added some more UMA files that are in the UMA .zip those go in the windows folder
dustykc2009 said:
I don't know if you guys are still interested in the UMA for WIN MObile or not but I went into my htc-shadow II 2009 and explored the windows folder, while it was connected to my pc and I found a UMA service cab file in there. So I was wondering if we could use that cab to install the UMA on windows mobile phones that doesn't have the UMA feature already installed. I attached the UMA cab below that hopefully someone will be able to try on their win mo phone and post a result back on here, I am curious to find it out since I am wanting to ditch my Shadow 2009 for a different win mo phone. If any additonal files are needed let me know, and I will try to help.
**Edit** I added some more UMA files that are in the UMA .zip those go in the windows folder
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Still trying these out on my TMOUS HD2 but you have to use the IME enter key to select the item menus you cant just click on them.
msoler8785 said:
Still trying these out on my TMOUS HD2 but you have to use the IME enter key to select the item menus you cant just click on them.
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Yeah, same here. It's because the Shadow is a WinMo Standard (no touch screen) device.
I don't see any indication that it's connected to UMA on the HD2.
I'm pretty sure UMA requires hardware support, but I would love to be proven wrong.
msoler8785 said:
Still trying these out on my TMOUS HD2 but you have to use the IME enter key to select the item menus you cant just click on them.
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Did you get it to work?
Good info (but bad news)
I hope someone can make this work, but I'm pretty sure it will be nearly impossible without specialized hardware. This article goes into pretty good detail about what is involved in making UMA work. "Because a UMA client is embedded into the baseband of the device and requires a modification to the GSM protocol stack, users cannot download a UMA client". In other words, it sounds like even if you do manage to properly setup the software to receive the GSM packets, encapsulate them with IPsec and send them over wifi, you still need a special radio chip that will redirect the GSM packets to your software.
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believers?nooo!!
just for the record>>>
Fring is realy a great app..BUT!!!!>>> nobody knows how it works outside of the good and stong network coveredge.
I talk about Dubai,and many other city like Dubai.My net is 24
24/7 and very expencive!BUT FRING GAVE ME NO SIGN OF FUNCTIONS>
At home in EU. works fine.If anybody knows whats wrong with 3G network,please share with me.HSDPA comes as well,BUT FRING DON T WORK!!!
well before some one tells me the wise idea to download the phone specific app,I KNOW IT!!my HTC jade is ok,and the app is good.Just don twork.
insane.I rather have msn and skype separately than having a program what occupies place and looks good,BUT DON T WORK!!
helios
What does fring wants me to register a fring account first to use all the other IMs?
BB88 said:
What does fring wants me to register a fring account first to use all the other IMs?
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Ya, We should first regsiter fring account within the device ( One time ) to use all other IMs.
Its 100% free app..........
Thanks and regards
important and fantastic
Dear ALL!!
As our senior member wrote earlyer,it is a truly amazing app.
Besides my problem,(happen to me) the program is working in EU or other modern countrys.Dubai is back in time with 20years in the communication yet.
The fantastic thing in Fring is that you belive it or not>> you don t need a sim card in your phone to use it!!
I advise you gyus to look at the youtube or google for the Fring videos!!You can be pretty surprised with the outcome!
Well,you def. need a strong wifi connection.!!!With 3G I don t guarantee full satysfaction!
Don t forget the phone specific download.On the Fring site,you need to find your own download cab.!
happy Fring helios
when on site of fring, no support for htc touch hd? Which version should i take then?
mouki_9 said:
when on site of fring, no support for htc touch hd? Which version should i take then?
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Download from my mirror or else select anyother htc devices ( i.e diamond ).
hmmm, just tried it, but it isn't very finger friendly... and no option to hide offline contacts....... it's got potential, but lacks user friendlyness
I just gave it another try too - and it still has the same annoying alert sound when receiving a chat msg! I can't find anyway to disable or change it other than muting my sound altogether with. If there was an option to change or disable the sound I might use it.
Skype or one of the others?
Thanks for the post.
So which is best and cheapest if I want to call
my folks thru fring to their cell phone, (but not smartphone): skype? Where can I find a comparison
of pros and cons between the different voice data internet systems? (I have a full data plan thru T-mobile, and use a Trinity wm5.)
green
is there a way to use fring with 3g WAP access?
in other words, for port 8080 only?
Screenshots?
Doesnt it work over GPRS? 3G? or WAP?... so it only works on wireless or while connected via activesync? O_O
starnge but happy
Heyyyahh All!
so many question about FRING.Why noone take a sneek wiev on youtube,or google,but the best is the Fring website.Planty answers,and even more pics films e.t.c are there.
When I met with this program first,I needed a free or at least cheap communication in Dubai!sorry FROM Dubai!Back to EU!
On 3G ,it works badly if you call your Mom!On wifi it needs a good signal.GPRS sometimes ok,but most of the week signals are just fine for chat!
The best option is to configure the SIP client.If you have voipbuster,it is easy!Check out the data on theyer website,and you can see what country is free to call?!!!!On the otherhand it is always free from computer 2 computer!!Or from Fring to another Fring user!
There is no cheaper tan FREE!!!!!
The annoying beep is there in the msg client.With the system sounds and noticication you can fine tune it.It is visible with HTC and some fresh Rom s !!
It is the IM client sounds in the notification setup.In the system setup tabell!
The connection is buffling stable on wifi,and it was specialy fantastic at the airports!!!Good to say helo I m alive for free!!The option to chat in the same time wit 6 different chat client is just great.
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helios
Checking it out
Thank Helios,
Good tips; will do. g
i have had this thing for a while.
at first they did not support bt headset, i don't know if it does now though. maybe they have updated it. I like it. definately recommend it,
BLOCKED in ETISALAT
heliosismagic said:
just for the record>>>
Fring is realy a great app..BUT!!!!>>> nobody knows how it works outside of the good and stong network coveredge.
I talk about Dubai,and many other city like Dubai.My net is 24
24/7 and very expencive!BUT FRING GAVE ME NO SIGN OF FUNCTIONS>
At home in EU. works fine.If anybody knows whats wrong with 3G network,please share with me.HSDPA comes as well,BUT FRING DON T WORK!!!
well before some one tells me the wise idea to download the phone specific app,I KNOW IT!!my HTC jade is ok,and the app is good.Just don twork.
insane.I rather have msn and skype separately than having a program what occupies place and looks good,BUT DON T WORK!!
helios
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ETISALAT UAE has blocked the website or IP for www.fring.com, which is required to authenticate the device before using other IM.
ASh
fring on etisalat
Ahdeshpande!!
You right,but as u probably know,etisalat in UAE. is just another fu..ng stupid company,who belives in fate,and the kingdom of communication!!
Well there are a number of softwares what u can use to go on any website in the world.!
Not proxy servers,but others!
just a few>> ghost surf,hotspot shild,ultra surf...This is a small list of softwares,u can use during sign up on the Fring site!!
I do,and work fantastic.After the sign up procedure it will work on your phone!
It is truly a pain in the a.... how etisalat try to control the web.But u know,it is uncontrollable,and with one of the above mentioned software,u can browse anything!!ANYTHING!!!
P.S the ultrasurf programm is attached.It is a good start for invisible browsing!HAVE FUN
helios
etisalat the bastardo!!!!
Please don t forget>>>> the u94 program works only on explorer.Not on mozzilla!!
So u can open now the Fring with explorer.After u unzipped the program u94,and setup is ok,please give a few seconds for bild up the vpn connection.Don t let the automatic site to come and load fully.It is not important.A Padlock appears on the lower left corner on your desktop,if the MEDICINE is ready to use.U can use for many other sites.If u need some hard sites,it isn t the strongest encryption.So it doesn t work for all sites,but many!!
helios
I want to setup a free VOIP phone with free phone number on my Android TV.
I would like to use internet connection to place calls with no SIM card and free service.
I know this is easy with a paid SIP service but I would like to do the free route please.
It should work well as it has a mic in the remote, just the same as a phone.
I have the Skyworth Leap S1 - same as the MyCool Box and others.
I see Google voice a free number but is limited and not truly free as I am outside US.
Please help with suggestions and links.