Are there any clients available, or other hacks to let my devices hook up with the T-Mobile hot [email protected] service? Not so much a samsung fan... Thanks
I have the [email protected], and currently use this feature with a Nokia 6086 and a Blackberry Curve, both work well. It would be cool to have my Windows Mobile Phone (HTC Advantage) working on UMA as well. I've have many lengthy calls with TMobile about this, and even tested the HP Ipaq UMA phone on thier network. To no avail, TMobile has not been willing to provide details of setting up UMA on potentially compatible devices, and to date, I haven't seen any Windows Mobile devices that can work on the [email protected] The general consensus is that TMobile will release the succcesor to the Wing (once that model has sold out) with a Kineto UMA client built-in. But, if they do this, it is unlikely that other Windows Mobile devices will work, as TMobile would want their customers to purchase the new device. For the moment, I wish that TMobile would upgrade their data network to a higher speed. It's coming, but taking too long for my taste.
I believe that UMA might be hardware based but then again, what do i know?
Clarifications?
UMA and Windows Mobile Devices - [email protected]
I have an iPAQ 910c. This has WM 6.1. I too would like to get a WM 6.1 device to work on the [email protected] network.
I had inquired of Bernard Debbasch at Vitendo Systems, Inc. (an outfit that does the programming for this) about a mod to allow WM devices to use Unlicense Mobile Access to get to [email protected] services. Here is the thread:
-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard Debbasch [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:51 AM
To: Ron Rossi
Subject: RE: From Website
Hello Ron,
Our company is focused on working with operators and their OEM. We do not
work directly with consumers or individual cellphones. FYI, the addition of
UMA on a cellphone is quite intrusive and cannot really be done as a
downloadable application.
Regards,
Bernard Debbasch
Vitendo Systems, Inc.
Tel: +1 (949) 955-0648
Cell: +1 (949) 310-7148
Fax: +1 (949) 258-5935
Web: www.vitendo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: From Website
Email: [email protected]
Name: Ron Rossi
Company: Greenberg Traurig
Tel: 303-679-0200
Interest: Newport - UMA Softphone - I have a [email protected] system set up and
a couple cell phones with the UMA feature. Can this solution work on an
iPAQ 900 Series PDA phone? It has 802.11 and GSM/SIM card. What is
eintailed? Thank you.
submit: Submit
I posted a similar question somewhere on xda. What exactly does he mean by intrusive? Seems like a vague reply. As is we aren't prepared to be very "intrusive" with our phones...
If UMA is a protocol I don't see why a bridge couldn't be written to disable the radio stack when the @Home is detected and enable the call through the Wi-Fi connection with the proper protocol in place. How would T-Mobile ever know?
Proprietary hardware sucks but it's the cheapest VoIP I've ever seen... outside of Skype and the like.
TMobile Shadow II
theformula said:
Are there any clients available, or other hacks to let my devices hook up with the T-Mobile hot [email protected] service? Not so much a samsung fan... Thanks
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I just got the Tmo Shadow II, and the UMA thingy works very very well.
In fact I did not even activate the 9.99 plan for unlimited calls. It just worked (may be a bug with tmo so far) but I am not sure if tmo intends it that way.
I would not even mind if Tmo just used the minutes from my minute bucket, and the UMA is purely providing me extended coverage at work or elsewhere where cell signal is poor.
NOW all you SMART hackers.. I am willing to provide a dump from my phone for all you folks who want to give it a shot, "Make it work for rest of WM devices"
pankul said:
I just got the Tmo Shadow II, and the UMA thingy works very very well.
In fact I did not even activate the 9.99 plan for unlimited calls. It just worked (may be a bug with tmo so far) but I am not sure if tmo intends it that way.
I would not even mind if Tmo just used the minutes from my minute bucket, and the UMA is purely providing me extended coverage at work or elsewhere where cell signal is poor.
NOW all you SMART hackers.. I am willing to provide a dump from my phone for all you folks who want to give it a shot, "Make it work for rest of WM devices"
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+1
And intrusive to these kind of companies would be cooking a new ROM.
Any word on this? I really need to find a way to get this to work on my Titan WM 6.1 if at all possible. I work from home and cell coverage ends just down the road. I would just go ahead and get a TMobile phone but they don't have coverage in this area so if I did it would only be good at my house.
I am glad to read it here.
willing to dump
I am willing to dump the ROM guys.
provided, (since its my wife's phone)
she does not loose her data.
rom dump wont include contacts and other personal data on the phone.
please just provide a link to the thread with instructions, and i will provide the dump.
so... now I broke down and got a new phone. A G-1. I still want [email protected] to work cuz I may just use the Seimens just for that if I could. I'll wait and see how the ROM dump info works out. If someone will read through pankul's wife's ROM.
htc-shadow II 2009 UMA-need your way to activate
It should work w/o using the minutes on UMA.
The WiFi connection works fine on my phone but uses the talk time minutes.
UMA-need your way to activate
I have the path with the following on my phone:
\Windows\UMA
PS
receivedSetting
rolling
savednet
UMAButtonPush
It does me do good to Hit the UMA icons, as they are only pieces w/o the actual application.
If you got a clu on what to do, please reply on share your dump in \Windows\UMA
uma - mmmm!
i spoke today to orange UK, and the adviser that i regularly speak to advised me that UMA is a network thing, and is added or part of a networks own rom, or can be added via an update from the said network.
its orange and vodafone's big thing in the UK.
most handsets that support are the Blackberry's and the nokia's
Straight from the lips of HTC via their tech support bods
Any device that uses WIFI can be made to use UMA software, it's down to the network provider to supply the software either within a ROM or as a patch. Or via a 3rd party to supply a download, then you just need the help to configure to network.
Once the software is on the device, it just needs the info from the network to allow you to configure it.
So all we really need is a 'generic' UMA client for WinMo that does the following?
- detect the nominated wireless network
- checks for access to the UMA servers at the provider
- connects to the above, and routes all previous GSM Traffic thru
the nice shiny UMA connection
- shuts off the GSM radio until such time that any of the above
are no longer available.
Not being a programmer, that seems awfully simple. If I were a programmer, it would probably most likely be MORE difficult.
As OrangeUK are now offering UMA for free (on supported handsets) I don't think it will be long until there is a WinMo UMA client.
Obviously the Android / Tmo G1 has it already - and it'll be hard-coded with Tmo's UMA servers. A little hackage should see you able to change the server to which it connects. A little hackage on your home network should let you find out what the server is too.
How does the billing side of it work? Initially my thought was by IMEI - so what if I borrow a friend's UMA phone, if it's by IMEI then he'd get the bills. Which would be nice, but a little impractical and unethical.
So the conclusion is that UMA *must* integrate somehow with the radio-stack of the device, which must be able to pass a unique identifier of the subscriber (i.e. USIM Serial) through UMA. This, too, could be open to hacking of the bad type - hard coding of USIM Serial into the UMA client etc. So further thought makes me now think that the UMA client and the radio-stack keep some form of 'constant contact' - I guess in a similar way to RSAP works over bluetooth.
These are just my thoughts. I don't even have a UMA phone. But I know I want one.
Update: On Orange UK - these are the 'entries' required.
UMA Protocol = UMA V 1.0.3 (this is defaulty any way)
Take tick out of use default UNC address (if there)
Enter UNC address 'unc.singlephone.orange.co.uk'
Provisioning UNC port '14001' think that's default anyway
Take tick out of box for use default provisioning SEGW Address
Enter SEGW address 'singlephone.orange.co.uk'
SEGW certificate select 'Equifax Secure Certificate Authority'
(this is all taken from a Blackberry forum, but gives the info needed.)
UMA
I don't know if you guys are still interested in the UMA for WIN MObile or not but I went into my htc-shadow II 2009 and explored the windows folder, while it was connected to my pc and I found a UMA service cab file in there. So I was wondering if we could use that cab to install the UMA on windows mobile phones that doesn't have the UMA feature already installed. I attached the UMA cab below that hopefully someone will be able to try on their win mo phone and post a result back on here, I am curious to find it out since I am wanting to ditch my Shadow 2009 for a different win mo phone. If any additonal files are needed let me know, and I will try to help.
**Edit** I added some more UMA files that are in the UMA .zip those go in the windows folder
dustykc2009 said:
I don't know if you guys are still interested in the UMA for WIN MObile or not but I went into my htc-shadow II 2009 and explored the windows folder, while it was connected to my pc and I found a UMA service cab file in there. So I was wondering if we could use that cab to install the UMA on windows mobile phones that doesn't have the UMA feature already installed. I attached the UMA cab below that hopefully someone will be able to try on their win mo phone and post a result back on here, I am curious to find it out since I am wanting to ditch my Shadow 2009 for a different win mo phone. If any additonal files are needed let me know, and I will try to help.
**Edit** I added some more UMA files that are in the UMA .zip those go in the windows folder
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Still trying these out on my TMOUS HD2 but you have to use the IME enter key to select the item menus you cant just click on them.
msoler8785 said:
Still trying these out on my TMOUS HD2 but you have to use the IME enter key to select the item menus you cant just click on them.
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Yeah, same here. It's because the Shadow is a WinMo Standard (no touch screen) device.
I don't see any indication that it's connected to UMA on the HD2.
I'm pretty sure UMA requires hardware support, but I would love to be proven wrong.
msoler8785 said:
Still trying these out on my TMOUS HD2 but you have to use the IME enter key to select the item menus you cant just click on them.
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Did you get it to work?
Good info (but bad news)
I hope someone can make this work, but I'm pretty sure it will be nearly impossible without specialized hardware. This article goes into pretty good detail about what is involved in making UMA work. "Because a UMA client is embedded into the baseband of the device and requires a modification to the GSM protocol stack, users cannot download a UMA client". In other words, it sounds like even if you do manage to properly setup the software to receive the GSM packets, encapsulate them with IPsec and send them over wifi, you still need a special radio chip that will redirect the GSM packets to your software.
Related
here are two files to configure blackberry for microsoft exchange and lotus notes including pdf file with instructions
tried to set this up before and drew a blank big time entered the info as it requested pin and imei but it kept saying i was a registerd user ,spoke to a decent bloke at 02 got to speak to him 2mora see if blackberry can reset my account even thou ive never used it strange anyone manage to get an account set up at www.o2email.co.uk .....
Pen6uin, where did you find the PIN to enable registration.?
The Pin
Can be found once you open up the blackberry software and go to settings, make surfe you click 'enable' and 'start', it will then be below the IMEI. I must add that O2 told me quite emphatically that this service will not be available until Jan. 2005.
blackberry service
For what its worth; I called O2 this morning as was told the Blackberry service was due to be available from 1 Nov, but there is a small delay.
The lady I spoke to went away and checked with the "data team" and told me it should be available in the next couple of weeks....
(Surprisingly; she was aware that the new rom release for XDA II included blackberry software; usually the call centre staff seem to be the last to know such things)
Was playing around with the Blackberry software installed the in 1.72 ROM but don't think i can use it as i'm not subscribed with O2 UK
What about Wallaby ?
Any hint whether this BlackBarre application can be installed in anyway on an XDA 1 ?
I lifted the HTC_PocketPC_1.2.4.19_O2_England.cab
from 1.72.181 extended rom from hobbit http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12526&highlight=blackberry
and tried to install in on a Qtek9090 (xdaIII, pda2k)
Everthing installs OK but when I am to connect to the device from the PC it claims that the "Services are not correctly configured"
I have checked for configuration files and settings in the registry but at a quick glance it seems that the configuration is hardcoded in some dll.
I have BlackBerry Enterprise in Sweden (Vodafone as carrier)
I wont give up yet but if anyone else succeds please write a few lines!
Best regards!
ok after a conversation with a rather upto date call center bod he has told me to call customer services and (get this he called me back lol ) they need to activate blackberry on my account and then try again apparently he said most off the setup is to be done on the handset so he will keep an eye on my account and then call me again (i feel honoured )when i have it activated to tell me the set up.what a nice man
pen6uin said:
ok after a conversation with a rather upto date call center bod he has told me to call customer services and (get this he called me back lol ) they need to activate blackberry on my account and then try again apparently he said most off the setup is to be done on the handset so he will keep an eye on my account and then call me again (i feel honoured )when i have it activated to tell me the set up.what a nice man
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Let us know when he gets back to you.
Have you got the logon to the site yet?
Did you have to ask for APN 57 (blackberry.net) from CS?
ok my quest continues ......
after speaking to cs this morning they put me onto data support who again are very knoledgable think there has been some training going on at 02 ,anyways he checks my account again and the usuall 'O' let me see if i can do it from here still no joy,he calls cs and does mention apn bydandie
he then transfers me to cs to give security details for the gzillianth time lol to activate it and says it should be activated within the next 24 hrs ...... so we shall see i will give an update asap
my surgestion is to mention the apn switch on for blackberry when calling cs to avoid the data support call .
Im getting the same issue about IMEI already being defined, and requested to log in with existing userid (which I havent set up).
Id also like to use my exisiting work VODAFONE SIM, which is GPRS enabled to our corporate BES (but Blackberry service removed) - will this work? (XDA is unlocked).
Finally anyone know if there's a true Vodafone/QTEK 2020 ROM upgrade - we've got these as work as well.
Blackberry Working!!!
Ignore my last posts - Ive now successfully got the XDA working on our corporate BES.
Was really a case of just following the instructions in the docs above, ensuring Blackberry enabled account (couresty Voda) being used.
No sweat.
Probably still some things to sort out for web based service though.
Andy
Hi. Great news!!! What is the actual cab file putting the BB functionality on the device? I would like to avoid installing the whole new ROM if at all possible. Has anyone tried installing just the BB? Thanks
Today I had time to test the BlackBerry client (look at my post above) HTC_PocketPC_1.2.4.19_O2_England.cab on a Qtek 2020.
And I got it working without any trouble
However, installed it on a 1.66 device and after a while the Bb client disconnected from gprs and I had to connect it again.
I connected it against a Blackberry enterprise server and, could successfully send & recieve mails and make address lookup to the GAL.
It also recieved the IT policy but I dont know what policy settings it applied :shock:
When I tried the same package on my Qtek 9090 it was very sluggish and never connected, so the client abviously works very close with the radio stack!? If anyone has better results than me please let me know
Best regards
Thanks for the guidance. Got the cab. Now, here's the golden question. What does BB enabled account mean? If I have GRPS connectivity is that not enough? I am guessing in order to control pricing packages there may be certain ports used by BB that the carrier blocks and then when you pay the fees for BB enabled account they simply enable them. Is this the case? Thanks for your clarification.
chosl said:
Today I had time to test the BlackBerry client (look at my post above) HTC_PocketPC_1.2.4.19_O2_England.cab on a Qtek 2020.
And I got it working without any trouble
However, installed it on a 1.66 device and after a while the Bb client disconnected from gprs and I had to connect it again.
I connected it against a Blackberry enterprise server and, could successfully send & recieve mails and make address lookup to the GAL.
It also recieved the IT policy but I dont know what policy settings it applied :shock:
When I tried the same package on my Qtek 9090 it was very sluggish and never connected, so the client abviously works very close with the radio stack!? If anyone has better results than me please let me know
Best regards
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Does this cab file install other applications other than the BB client? Coz I dont want to install any other app except the BB client on my XDAII since its an Asian ROM 1.66.
I worked my way through the guide doc for Exchange all the way up to :
6. Tap the Synchronization tab.
7. Select the Enable Wireless Synchronization check box.
This checkbox is grayed out on my device. Were you able to select this checkbox? Thanks
k_kirk said:
I worked my way through the guide doc for Exchange all the way up to :
6. Tap the Synchronization tab.
7. Select the Enable Wireless Synchronization check box.
This checkbox is grayed out on my device. Were you able to select this checkbox? Thanks
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hey kirk. what rom version are you using? i am about to install the cab file on my xdaII 1.66
In case anyone runs their own Asterisk PBX, the X-pro phone works well on the Universal. It states that it's only WM2003, but it seems to work fine. Call quality is pretty good considering it seems to only go through the speakerphone (at least I haven't found the setting to make it work phone-style).
Hi Nick
Which soft client are you using on the xda? Do you have a decent soft client that has g7323 or g729 support or are you using IAX or g711. I am developing some embedded Astrisk PBX's at the moment, at some point we wnat to add support for PDA's on our WiFI hotspot network but really dont want to waste all the bw needed by g711.
Most of the big name cleints have not yet develpoded a g723 or g729 client for any PPC. Some of our wifi deployments use satellite bw and at $6,ooo per month per MB g711 adds about 2c per minute to the costs.
regards
Charlie
Charlie VOIP said:
Hi Nick
Which soft client are you using on the xda? Do you have a decent soft client that has g7323 or g729 support or are you using IAX or g711. I am developing some embedded Astrisk PBX's at the moment, at some point we wnat to add support for PDA's on our WiFI hotspot network but really dont want to waste all the bw needed by g711.
Most of the big name cleints have not yet develpoded a g723 or g729 client for any PPC. Some of our wifi deployments use satellite bw and at $6,ooo per month per MB g711 adds about 2c per minute to the costs.
regards
Charlie
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I'm using the one from xten http://www.xten.net/index.php?menu=PPC. Check the url for all the specs as I'm not fully aware of all the different protocols and their required bandwidth, but I think this one supports 711 and GSM. I can see that it would be important of such an expensive connection, but for most (myself included) I just find a hotspot, turn on wifi on the Jasjar, and away I go (this is when I'm travelling or calling long distance
Nick.[/url]
Charlie VOIP said:
Hi Nick
Which soft client are you using on the xda? Do you have a decent soft client that has g7323 or g729 support or are you using IAX or g711. I am developing some embedded Astrisk PBX's at the moment, at some point we wnat to add support for PDA's on our WiFI hotspot network but really dont want to waste all the bw needed by g711.
Most of the big name cleints have not yet develpoded a g723 or g729 client for any PPC. Some of our wifi deployments use satellite bw and at $6,ooo per month per MB g711 adds about 2c per minute to the costs.
regards
Charlie
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IIRC, the xten (now CounterPath) PPC Softphone client supports G729 (I think it's a) only if ordered in quantities of 10,000 or more. Hah, I guess that's out for us lamers who just want to buy it to use SIP on our mobile devices.
The g729, however is available on eyebeam (called that because of the video capabilities available in the premium version 1.1) for Windows. If it makes you feel any better, they neglected to include the Mac users, as well, and so they don't have g729 support either.
I love g729 because I use it with Teliax and IConnectHere over dialup with excellent results. I am currently consulting in the Middle East and it saves me 70% or more on telephone charges.
using x-pro and asterisk
From what I understand it is possible to run X-pro on a Qtec9000 . I have some questions:
-what are the exact release of the software used (windows and x-pro)
-what are the settings used to make it work with asterisk and is it via stun server or with NAT traversal.
- is there a working iax client out there. The advantage is that it just needs one port to be open and that it is very easy to do nat traversal
Could you please paste the info and the settings to the forum. If I'm sure I can make the Qtec9000 work as a voip phone I will buy me one in short time.
I've given ppciax (http://www.voipalia.com/ppciax/index.php) a brief run on my XDA Exec, with reasonable sucess - not really used it, by the time I find an open hotspot, connect to it, and whatnot, it's usually a lot easier to just use my contract included minutes
Next time I ggo abroad I'll certainly be using it though.
Might give the xten clent a go as well, just to see which is easier (though I suspect using IAX the ppciax client will remain my voip softphone of choice, just for ease of compatabilty with random networks).
Re: using x-pro and asterisk
voop-fellow said:
From what I understand it is possible to run X-pro on a Qtec9000 . I have some questions:
-what are the exact release of the software used (windows and x-pro)
-what are the settings used to make it work with asterisk and is it via stun server or with NAT traversal.
- is there a working iax client out there. The advantage is that it just needs one port to be open and that it is very easy to do nat traversal
Could you please paste the info and the settings to the forum. If I'm sure I can make the Qtec9000 work as a voip phone I will buy me one in short time.
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-Release 2.2 1106t build stamp 18462. It appears that once closed you will need to soft-reset to re-open. Works via NAT with or without stun.
HI Guys
I saw the x-ten 10,000 plus for g729 as well. Shame. But i am still looking and will let you know if i find one. I know that G723 and g729 work really well on 3g connection as i have a soft client on my lap top that works perfectly using a bluetooth connection to my Universal. When i make international calls ina coffe shop or something it is much cheaper, as the BW is less expensive than calling over the gsm connection. Just a shame you can only run g723 over the laptop and not over the universal directly.
regards
Charlie
If you want to use an IAX capable Softphone on your Pocket PC to connect to Asterisk or any VoIP Provider supporting IAX give "VoIPSurfer" a try...
Download available at:
http://www.voipsurfer.net/download/VSurferDemoInstall.zip
hth,
Tin
Hi,
Does anyone already have a solution? This is the only, but big drawback that I have with my Qtek 9000.
Thanks,
J Fonseca
JFONSECA said:
Hi,
Does anyone already have a solution? This is the only, but big drawback that I have with my Qtek 9000.
Thanks,
J Fonseca
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I used to have kse truefax, which worked a treat - but that was on orange.... who set me up with a second exclusively fax/data line with its own number.
Bloody O2 dont do that.
i use tascal fax viewer.
it is free and works
http://www2r.biglobe.ne.jp/~tascal/download/pocketpc/index_e.htm
hollytree said:
i use tascal fax viewer.
it is free and works
http://www2r.biglobe.ne.jp/~tascal/download/pocketpc/index_e.htm
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Does that allow you to receive faxes to your device?
It doesn't work
Hi,
I tried that software, but it's only to view fax files, it does not allow to send or receive faxes.
i'll keep looking for a working alternative.
Thanks,
JFonseca
Hi
I found this one on a Yahoo Group:
http://www.samtechnc.com/eng/introduction/mfax_intro.htm
It should work on my Qtek 9000, but i was not able to try, because i don't have enough skills for that.
Maybe someone here can try and post their experiences
Mfax is for PocketPC 2003. I asked them when they may make it available for WM5 and got the following reply;
"Right now we do not know if and when we will be able to support Windows Mobile 5.0 Pocket PC Phones with our software.
The problem is that the modem i.e. network manufacturer (Qualcomm with their CDMA network) is not supporting fax class 1 or 2 in their system. Therefore we are not able to support the WM 5.0 Pocket PC Phones (or the CDMA based WM 2003 Pocket PC Phones). Furthermore HTC is - due to the lack of support from Qualcomm - not able to support us either.
So we are stuck in the middle. As long as Qualcomm doesn't set a higher
priority to the fax class support within their network (modem) we can do
nothing about this issue.
As soon as they would change this issue we would immediately be able to
support WM 5.0 Pocket PC Phones as well as CDMA phones using their network.
Frankly, I do not think that this issue will be solved soon. Faxing is still
seen as not important by the big companies (which I certainly do not agree, but we do not have a lobby or a direct contact person at Qualcomm, who has the power to change this)."
Maybe we should start lobbying Qualcomm.
We are MFaxCE's developer
We are the developer of MFaxCE. Actually, we have already ported our MFaxCE to WM5.0 successfully, but we found that HTC have changed a lot or haven't open the port for fax on WM5.0 device, we still fail to send/receive fax on WM5.0 right now.
However we are working with some manufacturer who is willing to modify their driver to make our MFaxCE capable of fax on their WM5.0 device. And we are also looking forward that HTC can do some modification or disclose some information to us, so that we can make MFaxCE compatiable with all the HTC WM5 device.
We will keep you posted about any news in the future!
samtech said:
We are the developer of MFaxCE. Actually, we have already ported our MFaxCE to WM5.0 successfully, but we found that HTC have changed a lot or haven't open the port for fax on WM5.0 device, we still fail to send/receive fax on WM5.0 right now.
However we are working with some manufacturer who is willing to modify their driver to make our MFaxCE capable of fax on their WM5.0 device. And we are also looking forward that HTC can do some modification or disclose some information to us, so that we can make MFaxCE compatiable with all the HTC WM5 device.
We will keep you posted about any news in the future!
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any news ?
Is anyone able to tell me if Blackberry is going to work on a Polaris? And what's the difference (if any) between Blackberry Service & Blackberry Connect.
Basically I want to be able to use the Polaris with my corporate BB server.
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
speakeasy said:
Is anyone able to tell me if Blackberry is going to work on a Polaris? And what's the difference (if any) between Blackberry Service & Blackberry Connect.
Basically I want to be able to use the Polaris with my corporate BB server.
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
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Plz, dont ask anything concerning BB in this forum... u r really off topic.
HTC has push email (and contacts, pim, etc...) like BB. Just check here:
https://secure.europe.htc.com/en/htcmail/index.html
So the answer is: YES, u can act your HTC like u can do on a BB
Anyone still using HTCmail after the trial period? I can't seem to find how much it costs.
answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1823333#post1823333
ps. wrong forum!
Abbsta said:
Anyone still using HTCmail after the trial period? I can't seem to find how much it costs.
answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1823333#post1823333
ps. wrong forum!
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it cost 11 euro per month (12 months subscription)
wonderiuy said:
Plz, dont ask anything concerning BB in this forum... u r really off topic.
HTC has push email (and contacts, pim, etc...) like BB. Just check here:
https://secure.europe.htc.com/en/htcmail/index.html
So the answer is: YES, u can act your HTC like u can do on a BB
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I think the question is valid. I have had a PDA for years and have moved through different version of device and OS. I love the features you get (including stylus/touchdrive screen) the ability to add many applications/themes and even upgrade to new roms etc not to mention Tomtom/GPS and push email from exchange.
I love the exchange push but my company are against it as they have been blackberry for a while and are worried about security/viruses and control of devices.
I recently was given a Blackberry from work which just turns out to be a basic phone with email...they work great but i cannot do much else. I have no memory expansion, MP3 player, not much decent addon applications, rubbish themes and no touch screen.
I would love to take the sim with its data tariff and put it in my Wizard or Universal or even my old XDA2 and use it for the blackberry service. I cant use it for excahnge push a it is disabled at the corporate end and if it was available would cost a fortune as the blackberry GPRS tariff charges extra for any data not going over blackberry.
I am stuck with 2 devices where I would dearly like to have one. That one would not be a blackberry but a fantastic WM6, touch screen, Satnav, Audio player, Camera, media viewer, media streamer from my home PC, media streamer from the internet over Wifi or GPRS, web browser, bluetooth stereo headset, voice dialing.....oh, and email from blackberry connect with my company SIM would be nice.
I think I am getting a bit bitter about this.........Sorry for the rant....I realy want Blackberry Connect V4 on my wizard.
Sorry if this is the wrong thread (mods, feel free to delete/move or tell me where I *should post), but . . .
HTC Mail is no good for me as it costs money. My company wants to give me a Blackberry but, like OhtwoXCDA2, I want a 'real' device. So, I'm hoping that the free BB Connect will allow me to get mail from my corporate Blackberry Enterprise Server to the Polaris.
And, to answer my own post, a friend who knows about this stuff assures me that you can simply install BB Connect on a WM6 device, enter the PIN fom the BES and everything will be rosey.
Confirmation from anyone else would be nice.
p.s. there's also a thread going on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360114
Blackberry Mobile definitely works with the Kaiser, so I can't see any reason (by looking at the specification comparison to the Polaris) why it would not work on the Polaris.
OhtwoXDA2 said:
I think the question is valid. I have had a PDA for years and have moved through different version of device and OS. I love the features you get (including stylus/touchdrive screen) the ability to add many applications/themes and even upgrade to new roms etc not to mention Tomtom/GPS and push email from exchange.
I love the exchange push but my company are against it as they have been blackberry for a while and are worried about security/viruses and control of devices.
I recently was given a Blackberry from work which just turns out to be a basic phone with email...they work great but i cannot do much else. I have no memory expansion, MP3 player, not much decent addon applications, rubbish themes and no touch screen.
I would love to take the sim with its data tariff and put it in my Wizard or Universal or even my old XDA2 and use it for the blackberry service. I cant use it for excahnge push a it is disabled at the corporate end and if it was available would cost a fortune as the blackberry GPRS tariff charges extra for any data not going over blackberry.
I am stuck with 2 devices where I would dearly like to have one. That one would not be a blackberry but a fantastic WM6, touch screen, Satnav, Audio player, Camera, media viewer, media streamer from my home PC, media streamer from the internet over Wifi or GPRS, web browser, bluetooth stereo headset, voice dialing.....oh, and email from blackberry connect with my company SIM would be nice.
I think I am getting a bit bitter about this.........Sorry for the rant....I realy want Blackberry Connect V4 on my wizard.
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You are looking for this then:
http://www.asia.htc.com/resource/sea/bbc_web/index.html
BlackBerry® Connect™ for Microsoft® Windows Mobile® enables Windows Mobile-based devices to leverage the benefits of BlackBerry® wireless services, including BlackBerry® Enterprise Server and BlackBerry® Internet Service. Now, Pocket PC and Smartphone users can connect with email and other data applications and enjoy a familiar Windows® user experience.
Mi HTC Touch works like a charm with Blackberry Connect 4.0.0.92.
Yo can download the different versions here:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?entry_id=276
See also this page for downloading manual and Desktop connect:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=225
Regards
speakeasy said:
Is anyone able to tell me if Blackberry is going to work on a Polaris? And what's the difference (if any) between Blackberry Service & Blackberry Connect.
Basically I want to be able to use the Polaris with my corporate BB server.
Thanks in advance for any help with this.
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Hello everyone,
Eventhough I have BB Conn on my AT&T 8525, my company would not help me get it paired with our BES, so I had them get me an actual BB. Now I'd like to just pull the SIM card put it in my 8525 and use BB conn. From what I have read, this should not be an issue; but I understand that the device type will show up on the BES. Now I doubt they have someone monitoring with such a fine comb, but since They will not let personal devices on, oh yeah, nor would they let me get a TILT as a BB, is there a way to spoof the device type on the BES or is this something someone would be interested in looking into as my programming skills are long gone. Thanks in advance for all your replies.
As far as i know there is no way of spoofing the BB device so that the BES sees your WinMo device as a BB.
Also i think it would be necessary for you to redo the Enterprise Activation anyway, as from the BES's point of view you would be a new device, this would require the assistance of your BES Admin.
This same solution worked for me.
But I am using BBC 2 on my Wizard.
All I had to do is to get a good (that is: BBC compatible) ROM version(I hacked it) and AKU value in the registry (hacked that as well).
I was then able to connect my WM device to the BES using the BBC desktop software. The BBC desktop software seems to push the device PIN (which is different on the WM device than on the BB device) to the BES.
Works flawlessly. BBC has some drawbacks BTW: I cant cope with big mail or calendar archives, so you have to clean up your Exchange account once in a while. BBC 2 is a memory hog as well (and it seems to have a memory leak). But a weekly / bi-weekly softreset fixes hat.
I am still curious to get BBC 4 on my device. This new version seems to have more difficult catches.
A how to guide on hacking the OS in order to rum BBC is in the development & hackng forum.....
That's as maybe, but if the BES admin has set it up so that only an allowed list of devices are allowed then BBC will not connect.
Also as there is an existing embargo on personal devices could it be against company policy and thus disciplinable to circumvent things?
As a BES Admin I can confirm that non BBs show up as something different. We have a Nokia Communicator running BBC on our BES and it shows as a Nokia RA-6
jrosaly said:
Hello everyone,
Eventhough I have BB Conn on my AT&T 8525, my company would not help me get it paired with our BES, so I had them get me an actual BB. Now I'd like to just pull the SIM card put it in my 8525 and use BB conn. From what I have read, this should not be an issue; but I understand that the device type will show up on the BES. Now I doubt they have someone monitoring with such a fine comb, but since They will not let personal devices on, oh yeah, nor would they let me get a TILT as a BB, is there a way to spoof the device type on the BES or is this something someone would be interested in looking into as my programming skills are long gone. Thanks in advance for all your replies.
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I ended up doing exactly what you have done due to corporate policy. However I have never even unboxed the BlackBerry they posted me. I had to call the helpdesk to get them to create a password for the Enterprise Activation but that was it. I then installed BBC (4.0.0.97) and just did the activation and it all worked.
I tried version 4.0.0.100 but it didn't work for some reason so I ended up using the slightly older version as I had seen various reports of it working. I think our IT department must know I am using a HTC Kaiser, however I think as long as I don't start asking for support they are OK with it.
When they created the password for enterprise activation it lasts for a day or so and then can't be used and you have to request another activation. I can see this being a pain if you want to play about installing new ROMs.
HTH
Andy