Hello all Ive just ordered my universal on Orange, for delivery tomorrow, they are giving it to me for free on upgrade.
So now because I often use over my monthly minute allowance and having a few friends around the world I would like to use a VOIP service.
The only one I know of is Skype, as I am fairly new to this type of thing. So can anyone recommed a service that is cheap, easy to use, Universal compatible.
As for call costs I would like a service that is fairly cheap to call both landlines and mobiles. The mobiles would only really be in the UK, if that matters.
Any help is really appreciated. Many Thanks
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
Where did you manage to get version 3? - On the website you mentioned below I can only find 2.2 to buy for around 30 USD...
lutzh said:
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
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what if you use a BT headset like the JABRA? will the sound be routed to the the BT headset or to the external speaker?
matzie said:
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
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I use plusnet and love it and use the voip sevice to call landlines (free) from my laptop but I would love to know how to use my vario to do it. I presume I would do it via wifi through the broadband but dont know how. Please tell me if you can - thanks. I do have unlimited gprs but I would assume that I couldnt use plusnet this way as it is not broadband etc.
I'm using SJPhone!
It's for free
http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html
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Hi, im using woize it is sip program sip = internet telefon.. woize works grate on 9100 if u ar on w-lan, it has 1 bug but is going to be fixst in ner fjutjer http://www.woize.com http://www.woize.com/smartphone.php
Known bugs
There is a problem with the volume on devices with a built-in GSM phone. The application will work but the volume is very loud.
Woize - a SIP based VoIP app now available for MS Smartphone : SmartphoneWoize Beta available now
January 25, 2006 [MS Smartphone]
Contrary to Skype, that is based on proprietary P2P technology (similar to the one in former Napster P2P), Woize is based on de facto industry standard in VoIP (Voice over IP) industry - the SIP.
Interestingly processors of speed 200 MHz that are in all smartphones and some slow Pocket PC devices, can handle SIP well, although they have problems or can't handle Skype at all. Since nowadays more and more MS Smartphone (the small brother of Pocket PC in Windows Mobile family) phones have built-in Wi-Fi, this SIP based Woize program may be a blessing...
Woize is digital telephony made simple. When signing up, you receive your own phone number that can be used from any computer anywhere in the world to call your friends and business partners at incredibly low rates. And they can call you - right to your computer!
SmartphoneWoize allows you to use Woize wherever your phone is connected to a WiFi network. The functionality of the application is similar to the PC and Pocket PC versions of Woize. Get SmartphoneWoize now and start calling other Woize, PocketWoize and SmartphoneWoize users for free!
Similarly like it is in Skype: Internet to Internet voice calls are free and calls to regular phone numbers are available at special rates (not free).
If you have a Pocket PC phone with slow processor (like HTC Wizard or HTC Prophet) you may consider using Woize too - there is a version for Pocket PC available too. Since these slow Pocket PC phones have problems to handle Skype voice calls, Woize may be the solution for you. Pocket PC version of Woize is here.
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more info
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4839.html
Sounds good and looks nice. Have you used it ok KinkyGolab?
V
yess, the onley problem is the bug and it is the onley problem i haw found. u can also send sms from it and i get free sip telefon nummber and if u haw sip box att home u can setup so u can get
ur woize cal to ur SIP/ATA box in sted if ur pda is turn of
im going to get my Qtek 9000 to day so i can test woize on it but im going to test it tomorow
Settings
SIP Server: sip.woize.com
Outbound Proxy: sip.woize.com
SIP User ID: SIP-Username
Password: SIP-Password
For more detailed instructions for your SIP/ATA box please refer to your SIP/ATA box manufactures manual/guides on how configure your box.
vijay555 said:
Sounds good and looks nice. Have you used it ok KinkyGolab?
V
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In fact, Woize is NOT SIP based. The client uses proprietary protocol and Woize has SIP gateway (not too different from Skype). SJLabs, XTEN and Cicero are SIP based clients that do not tie you into a service like Voize, Skype, MSN, Yahoo and AOL do.
All interesting. If the performance is good, and if it is SIP compatible, do we need to worry Finn?
I never use SIP - I'm always much closer to a phone then wifi, but it's good to know in case I'm planning any acts of insurgency :shock:
V
I think is not possible send SMS to any number... only SIP numbers!
Is Not?
KinkyGolab said:
Hi, im using woize it is sip program sip = internet telefon.. woize works grate on 9100 if u ar on w-lan, it has 1 bug but is going to be fixst in ner fjutjer http://www.woize.com http://www.woize.com/smartphone.php
Known bugs
There is a problem with the volume on devices with a built-in GSM phone. The application will work but the volume is very loud.
Woize - a SIP based VoIP app now available for MS Smartphone : SmartphoneWoize Beta available now
January 25, 2006 [MS Smartphone]
Contrary to Skype, that is based on proprietary P2P technology (similar to the one in former Napster P2P), Woize is based on de facto industry standard in VoIP (Voice over IP) industry - the SIP.
Interestingly processors of speed 200 MHz that are in all smartphones and some slow Pocket PC devices, can handle SIP well, although they have problems or can't handle Skype at all. Since nowadays more and more MS Smartphone (the small brother of Pocket PC in Windows Mobile family) phones have built-in Wi-Fi, this SIP based Woize program may be a blessing...
Woize is digital telephony made simple. When signing up, you receive your own phone number that can be used from any computer anywhere in the world to call your friends and business partners at incredibly low rates. And they can call you - right to your computer!
SmartphoneWoize allows you to use Woize wherever your phone is connected to a WiFi network. The functionality of the application is similar to the PC and Pocket PC versions of Woize. Get SmartphoneWoize now and start calling other Woize, PocketWoize and SmartphoneWoize users for free!
Similarly like it is in Skype: Internet to Internet voice calls are free and calls to regular phone numbers are available at special rates (not free).
If you have a Pocket PC phone with slow processor (like HTC Wizard or HTC Prophet) you may consider using Woize too - there is a version for Pocket PC available too. Since these slow Pocket PC phones have problems to handle Skype voice calls, Woize may be the solution for you. Pocket PC version of Woize is here.
copy from msmobiles
more info
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4839.html
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nice, thanks for pointing it out!
In case anyone runs their own Asterisk PBX, the X-pro phone works well on the Universal. It states that it's only WM2003, but it seems to work fine. Call quality is pretty good considering it seems to only go through the speakerphone (at least I haven't found the setting to make it work phone-style).
Hi Nick
Which soft client are you using on the xda? Do you have a decent soft client that has g7323 or g729 support or are you using IAX or g711. I am developing some embedded Astrisk PBX's at the moment, at some point we wnat to add support for PDA's on our WiFI hotspot network but really dont want to waste all the bw needed by g711.
Most of the big name cleints have not yet develpoded a g723 or g729 client for any PPC. Some of our wifi deployments use satellite bw and at $6,ooo per month per MB g711 adds about 2c per minute to the costs.
regards
Charlie
Charlie VOIP said:
Hi Nick
Which soft client are you using on the xda? Do you have a decent soft client that has g7323 or g729 support or are you using IAX or g711. I am developing some embedded Astrisk PBX's at the moment, at some point we wnat to add support for PDA's on our WiFI hotspot network but really dont want to waste all the bw needed by g711.
Most of the big name cleints have not yet develpoded a g723 or g729 client for any PPC. Some of our wifi deployments use satellite bw and at $6,ooo per month per MB g711 adds about 2c per minute to the costs.
regards
Charlie
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I'm using the one from xten http://www.xten.net/index.php?menu=PPC. Check the url for all the specs as I'm not fully aware of all the different protocols and their required bandwidth, but I think this one supports 711 and GSM. I can see that it would be important of such an expensive connection, but for most (myself included) I just find a hotspot, turn on wifi on the Jasjar, and away I go (this is when I'm travelling or calling long distance
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Charlie VOIP said:
Hi Nick
Which soft client are you using on the xda? Do you have a decent soft client that has g7323 or g729 support or are you using IAX or g711. I am developing some embedded Astrisk PBX's at the moment, at some point we wnat to add support for PDA's on our WiFI hotspot network but really dont want to waste all the bw needed by g711.
Most of the big name cleints have not yet develpoded a g723 or g729 client for any PPC. Some of our wifi deployments use satellite bw and at $6,ooo per month per MB g711 adds about 2c per minute to the costs.
regards
Charlie
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IIRC, the xten (now CounterPath) PPC Softphone client supports G729 (I think it's a) only if ordered in quantities of 10,000 or more. Hah, I guess that's out for us lamers who just want to buy it to use SIP on our mobile devices.
The g729, however is available on eyebeam (called that because of the video capabilities available in the premium version 1.1) for Windows. If it makes you feel any better, they neglected to include the Mac users, as well, and so they don't have g729 support either.
I love g729 because I use it with Teliax and IConnectHere over dialup with excellent results. I am currently consulting in the Middle East and it saves me 70% or more on telephone charges.
using x-pro and asterisk
From what I understand it is possible to run X-pro on a Qtec9000 . I have some questions:
-what are the exact release of the software used (windows and x-pro)
-what are the settings used to make it work with asterisk and is it via stun server or with NAT traversal.
- is there a working iax client out there. The advantage is that it just needs one port to be open and that it is very easy to do nat traversal
Could you please paste the info and the settings to the forum. If I'm sure I can make the Qtec9000 work as a voip phone I will buy me one in short time.
I've given ppciax (http://www.voipalia.com/ppciax/index.php) a brief run on my XDA Exec, with reasonable sucess - not really used it, by the time I find an open hotspot, connect to it, and whatnot, it's usually a lot easier to just use my contract included minutes
Next time I ggo abroad I'll certainly be using it though.
Might give the xten clent a go as well, just to see which is easier (though I suspect using IAX the ppciax client will remain my voip softphone of choice, just for ease of compatabilty with random networks).
Re: using x-pro and asterisk
voop-fellow said:
From what I understand it is possible to run X-pro on a Qtec9000 . I have some questions:
-what are the exact release of the software used (windows and x-pro)
-what are the settings used to make it work with asterisk and is it via stun server or with NAT traversal.
- is there a working iax client out there. The advantage is that it just needs one port to be open and that it is very easy to do nat traversal
Could you please paste the info and the settings to the forum. If I'm sure I can make the Qtec9000 work as a voip phone I will buy me one in short time.
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-Release 2.2 1106t build stamp 18462. It appears that once closed you will need to soft-reset to re-open. Works via NAT with or without stun.
HI Guys
I saw the x-ten 10,000 plus for g729 as well. Shame. But i am still looking and will let you know if i find one. I know that G723 and g729 work really well on 3g connection as i have a soft client on my lap top that works perfectly using a bluetooth connection to my Universal. When i make international calls ina coffe shop or something it is much cheaper, as the BW is less expensive than calling over the gsm connection. Just a shame you can only run g723 over the laptop and not over the universal directly.
regards
Charlie
If you want to use an IAX capable Softphone on your Pocket PC to connect to Asterisk or any VoIP Provider supporting IAX give "VoIPSurfer" a try...
Download available at:
http://www.voipsurfer.net/download/VSurferDemoInstall.zip
hth,
Tin
Hi,
Anyone knows any free VOIP softphone for O2 Exec which allows to configure to use third-party SIP providers (e.g. sipdiscount, sipgate etc.) ?
Thanks!
SV
use skype
Sorry, I meant to configure with SIP protocol.
sjphone, works fine
With SJPhone, at the moment, when calling, you have to use loud speakers or headset not the phone speaker. Is it right?
Thanks!
That happens with any phone edition device.. Apps don't have access to the other speakers...
Re Sip
I have tried many. However most free products are generic to a provider,
Successful products are:
Xten lite from xten Networks
SJ Phone this is the best and is easily configured to multiple profiles.
It intergrates nicely with our office Sip server too,
Regards
DW
Re Sip
I have tried many. However most free products are generic to a provider,
Successful products are:
Xten lite from xten Networks
SJ Phone this is the best and is easily configured to multiple profiles.
It intergrates nicely with our office Sip server too,
Regards
DW
svkhtn said:
Sorry, I meant to configure with SIP protocol.
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May I know what is SIP protocol?
Is it different with Skype protocol? Is SIP protocol is a standard one?
Thx.
Regards,
Arto.
Artosoft said:
May I know what is SIP protocol?
Is it different with Skype protocol? Is SIP protocol is a standard one?
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SIP is a standard - most VOIP application and hardware uses it.
I meen: SIP RFC 3261
Skype is a own protocol and only skype clients can connect each other using skype soft phone or by skype gateway.
I guess that the source is not public.
I use AGEphone.
http://www.ageet.com/us/
It is not Free.
But, maybe best.
Files are light, but works very well.
the sound is very clear.
We can use SIPdiscount, VoipBuster, VoipStunt, StanaPhone, SIPphone, Free World DialUp, Agilephone, etc all at the same time.
I installed SJPhone and could get connected. I could dial my cell phone number and it will ring my cell phone.
But there is no sound whatsoever in my Universal/JJ.
Can anybody help me? Did I miss something? I tried to plug in my headset but no luck as well.
Thanks.
Also, may I know which version of SJPhone you guys use?
Can you send the link for the download? I can only find the one for 2003SE and 2003, nothing for WM5.
Since I didn't see a follow-up post by anyone, I'd like to say that the SJPhone for Windows 2003 SE works with the universal *only in portrait mode*.
Has anyone [other than shamilsh] tried the ageet soft phone suggested in this thread?
Does Skype work over GPRS or just 3G?
Regards.
Just for text messages, skype is ok with GRPS - but for voice you need 3G oder WLAN.
Hi
Any sip cliente for wm5 that have G.729 (8 kbps) or G.723 (5.3 & 6.3 kbps codecs ?
sj phone only 711 or their own gsm....
Owl said:
Just for text messages, skype is ok with GRPS - but for voice you need 3G oder WLAN.
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Is that need 3G as in would be slow, or need as in can't do it...
Just that GPRS is free for the T-Mobile plan I'm using, but think I have to pay for 3G (Relax + Web & Walk thing)
are there any programs that allow routing of the sound to phone speakers instead of main speakers?
Guys....just use sj phone with sip service from voipbuster.com and forget the rest.... and now you are talking....FREE and with free local rate call back number also...now...that ROCKS :twisted:
BR
Hey all,
I was trying to find some information on Sip protocol in the US. I have been playing around with the WM6 Roms and would like to try the internet calling feature. For the people in the US:
- what provider do you use?
- Is it a plan (like Vonage) or per call? I know I there is a french company Wengo.
Thanks in advance.
Try voipdiscount.
Gilko
Why - did you manage to get voipdiscount working with your trinity WM6?
What ROM - what wettings - tell tell!
VOIP in USA
Hi guys.
I´ve doing VOIP on pda´s for 2 years and this is what I´ve been using:
SJphone and credits from Voipcheap,voipbuster,Voipstunt,(I pay $12 or $13 every 3 months for unlimited calls to regular phones)this software is pretty easy to use and it has a nice phonebook.I´m attaching the software and the profile for Voipcheap which is the cheapest way for me to call my family in Spain and friends in Europe,there are many free destinations,if you go to those websites and compare the prices.
I believe there´s also a good deal with Skype and Voipcheap(you pay a fee and get unlimited phonecalls for a year)like I said go there and compare.
I know it would be nice if you can set up your phone and WM6 for VOIP with the software that comes with it.
The first file is the profile that you should copy and paste in the profile folder of the SJphone app once it´s installed.
I hope I could help you.If you need some help just let me know.
See ya.
HTC P3600 Black
-Opera.
-Sk Tools.
-SJ Phone.
-Tweaks2k2.NET.
-Skype.
-Resco Pocket Radio 1FM.com.
-WIFIFOFum.
-PocketRAR.
Thanks DTA1974. I am interested in seeing how this funtions on WM6.
Amazing little device the trinity is.
VOIP in US and Around the World
I agree with you, the VOIPCHEAP or VOIPBuster, or VOIPSTUNT is great, but you dont get a phone number...but here is the trick. Setup an account on one of these services and you dont have to pay anything to make US Calls mobile or landline. When you setup this account make sure your username is not so many characters (keep it within 8 characters) Then...Go to www.IPKALL.com and get a WAshington State number ..its free and when you get to the account, use the following:
SIP Number: Use your Account Sign In for VOIPBuster or whatever...(the 8 or less charater one)
SIP Address: sip.voipbuster.com or sip.voipcheap.com or sip.voipstunt.com (whichever you signed up for)
Email: Use your email address
Password: setup a 4 character password for logging into changing these settings... You will recieve an email with your new Number
Wait 60 min and then that number will be forwarded to your new SIP account!!! also if you wanna setup voipbuster on your Phone, just use config tool and use the same settings as above:
SIP Number: Use your Account Sign In for VOIPBuster or whatever...(the 8 or less charater one)
SIP Address: sip.voipbuster.com or sip.voipcheap.com or sip.voipstunt.com (whichever you signed up for)
It will work. I been using it for a long time.
I really want to use the integrated WM6 VoIP software. this way when I'm at home, the phone connectes to my Wifi and automatically the calls go throught VoIP. I know my settings are OK - as I managed to make one successful call. The rest of the time something is stopping sound coming to the speaker. I can be heard but cannot hear - completely dead. Strange thing - whenever I make a call, there is a long beep. There is SOMETHING cutting off the redirection of VoIP sound to my phone - perhaps the file from HTC which sets up the network settings for my phone network in France. Any ideas on how to solve this welcome. apart from that I have SJphone working, too, but not what I wanted. Thanks dta1974.
VOIP 4 FREE means FREE 0.00 <--<
Never ever ever pay. free means free. I have played around with voipbuster and and voipstunt both are stupid they let you call for free for awhile then cut you off and make you pay. The ipkall gives you a free inbound phone number for FREE all the time, if you sign up for another account on voipbuster then switch users on ipkall it starts working again both was in and out. all we need is one of you good script/program writters to write us a program that goes out and signs us up using another user account every day and also logs us into ipkall and updates the info to match the new user name and we will get everything for free all the time, that is until the bastards find out what we are doing. It will work so please write me one because until then I will have to manually create a new user each day. Oh unless someone knows of a FREE and I mean FREE SIP provider!!!
I'd like to save everyone the trouble of figuring out how to get this done by sharing my setup with you. The VOIP itself works great over 3G/4G and Wifi, but to use the VPN you'll need to be on Wifi, 3g VPN doesn't seem to work.
Requirements:
SipDroid app in the market
A free account at pbxes.org
A paid account at callcentric.com (~$.019 a minute to call anywhere in the US)
A paid account at SuperVPN.net ($4 /mo if you pay for the whole year)
First set up a pbxes.org account, and connect to it with the SipDroid app, I recommend using this guide to walk you through the process.
http://guardianproject.info/2010/05...e-mobile-phone-system-for-android-and-beyond/
Once you have that working there is one crucial adjustment to be made within SipDroid. For some reason it comes default with all sorts of audio codecs, but only ONE of them seemed to work on the EVO, the Speex codec. So go into audio codecs and switch everything but speex to "never".
After that you should have a working VOIP system but you'll still need some kind of trunk if you want to make outgoing calls to land lines or cell phones. There are many solutions for this but I recommend callcentric.com, they seem to be the most recommended for this type of setup, and they worked great for me. You can pay $20 a month for unlimited US calling, this means you can be anywhere in the world and call the US for just $20 a month. Or you can prepay (this is what I did), then you pay a flat rate of about $.019 a minute to call the US from anywhere, and if you reach you pre paid limit, it just cuts off until you recharge it.
Once you have your callcentric account purchased, just go into your pbxes.org admin area and under trunks add one for call centric, use your callcentric # as the username, and callcentric.com as the sip server. Then go under Outbound routing, add a new one, name it whatever and choose your callcentric trunk from the pulldown menu, submit the changes and you're done.
Now you should be able to successfully make outbound calls to anywhere using SipDroid.
Lastly, this was the most challenging for me, the VPN. Apparently android, including 2.2, has some major issues with maintaining vpn connections, especially when you try and use them for VOIP. There is a huge issue queue in the android google groups forum where the problem is openly discussed without a real solution. BUT, while it appears the majority of VPN connections will fail, they CAN work if you get it set up just right. Setting up VPN's, specifically VPN's tailored for mobile devices, is not something I know how to do. In the android group thread someone mentioned SuperVPN.net as a working solution, I checked it out and sure enough they work great, I had zero problems with them the whole time I was out of the country.
So create a supervpn.net account, and then on your phone go into Menu -> Wireless & Networks -> VPN -> Add VPN -> Add PPTP VPN, create the connection and you are good to go.
*I didn't set up an inbound call # with callcentric as I didn't need one, I assume after you upgrade your callcentric account, adding the inbound trunk is similar to the outbound. Be sure and look into getting a free inbound number from sipgate.com before you go and pay for one, you'll be locked to a California area code, but free is free.
An alternative I use is having an Asterisk server at home and use IAXAgent from the market. IAX does not have the problems that SIP does when going over NAT. I can make calls over 3G or wifi. A lot of SIP providers also provide IAX accounts. IAX is just a better way to go for making calls over the Internet. SIP is excellent for the LAN.
ChrisDos said:
An alternative I use is having an Asterisk server at home and use IAXAgent from the market. IAX does not have the problems that SIP does when going over NAT. I can make calls over 3G or wifi. A lot of SIP providers also provide IAX accounts. IAX is just a better way to go for making calls over the Internet. SIP is excellent for the LAN.
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Oops.. the method I posted actually works on 3g and 4g also, it's only the VPN that requires Wifi, I had worded it incorrectly, now it's fixed. (thank you)
I looked into setting up an asterisk server, but I didn't want to have to depend on my own server or home connection being available whenever I needed it, especially when I was traveling for more than a week.
Is IAX the same as a trunk, does it cost anything to connect to land lines or cellphones?
True, you method does make SIP work because you are using a VPN. IAX is an alternative to SIP. It is NAT friendly, and as long as the port is not blocked, it just works. Though, there are a fewer choices for clients compared to SIP. IAX was created by the Asterisk team. I do not know of any VOIP systems that support IAX, bug that does not mean they dont exist. I am a heavy Astersk guy, so IAX was my cup of tea.
What advantages does this have over google voice?
I'm curious cause i'll be going to england soon and would be nice to make calls over wifi.
ShoxV said:
What advantages does this have over google voice?
I'm curious cause i'll be going to england soon and would be nice to make calls over wifi.
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None, in fact, it his disadvantages (See below). Also, most businesses, schools, etc. will block just about every VPN method. OpenVPN is the most flexible one I have found, which might be able to sneak around by using alternate sub-1000 ports (which most places won't block, since they require root access on whatever server they're running from).
OP: Might wanna take a look at this...
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/supervpn.net
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None, in fact, it his disadvantages (See below). Also, most businesses, schools, etc. will block just about every VPN method. OpenVPN is the most flexible one I have found, which might be able to sneak around by using alternate sub-1000 ports (which most places won't block, since they require root access on whatever server they're running from).
OP: Might wanna take a look at this...
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/supervpn.net
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Not sure what you're talking about, it saved me hundreds of dollars in roaming minutes while I was in Belize. Some places do block vpns I'm sure but I never had any issues, but you don't need the vpn itself unless you're in a country that blocks voip altogether, at which point occasional vpn is greater than no vpn.
Also supervpn was the only method I found that actually works on android, I think the risks referenced in that link you posted really only apply to desktop vpn use, not phones. Openvpn is great for somewhat advanced users and if you have a computer you can depend on as a server while you're out of the country for days or weeks, this guide isn't meant for someone capable of managing that.
As for Google voice, it just initiates an inbound call to your actual cell number, which does zero good when you're trying to avoid roaming. Now the new gmail implementation of voice shows promise as an actual voip solution, but currently that version is desktop only from what I can tell.