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Can someone tell me if they have been able to configure the XDA II Blackberry to work with TMO in the US? Is this even possible...
No I dont think so yet. Uless you can connect to the UK blackberry enterprise server. You might want to go to their website find that link and set it up there. It might work anywhere your phone is (i.e. if you are a business travel) The US Blackberry webclient is set up right now only for Blackberry decvices right now i belive. Also the current server set up does not alllow picture transfer. Limmited file trypes. only word, excel, powerpoint i belive. Blackberry has always been weak in the attachment department. I think this is the reson you dont really see it on the handheld side yet. Im not sure what O2 UK has cooked up or if they are running the newest implimwntation of the Blackberry enterprise server. But where ever you are to get a @o2.blackberry.com or @tmo.blackberry.com address and store and forward someone has to have the BB server, and have it configured to support the device type you have.
In the mean time some interesting things.
1. the Webclient service ONLY pushes mail to your device every 15 minutes. So nothing more special then the PPC can do already. You can set your device to poll for new messages every 15 minutes. (I think in the end the BB webclient implimentation is going to be a let down, nothing new, nothing special, just something, more to sell you.)
2. If you are a member of ClubImate sign up for clubmail. You'll get access to an echange server that can be set up on the device side to get your mail as it arrives. Basicly the same thing as BB except its sync'd not just dumped onto your device for safe keeping like BB.
Just an FYI.
Unfortunatly the most stable solution I have used so far is the HP iPAQ 6315 mail trigger system. Seems to work the most reliably over all the others. The big downer is it costs SMS charges everytime you get an email, is near impossible to port to a non-iPAQ6315,
but works flawlessly.
Yes you can if your SIM is blackberry enabled. ie. If you currently have a corp blackberry device, you can take the SIM out and pop in into a XDA II with blackberry connect installed. I'm receiving Corp and bwc e-mails on my XDAII updated with the latest O2 firmware xx.181. You need to download the balckberry configuration software from O2 or search the forum as some kind soul uploaded the software here. For corp e-mail, you need to have connection to exchange server and chnage the PIN number of the device since it is based on your IMEI.
Good luck!
David
Thanks David.
I have 1.7xx.181 with Blackberry Software installed. I have a Blackberry SIM.
How do I get the PIN Changed?
Finally got it working...
The only problem I have is that the outgoing mail... It goes through the device hits my Corporate Lotus Notes but doesnt reach the recipient..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=68068#68068
This is the thread with bbconfig files for lotus notes and exchange. Check to see if you have the service books on your XDA II. Did you have blackberry functionality via notes before?
May be your IT poeple hard coded the blackberry PIN to your account
Managed to get BlackBerry functionality running on my XDA2. I call it now XDA2Berry...
Quick questions I am hoping someone can help with :
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Regular BlackBerry synchronizes calendar & contacts to the local device. I do not think this is happning on the XDA. Any ideas on if it is possible and how to activate it?
When a message is received I hear a short beep. I tried changing the setting for Sound Event called "Inbox : New EMail Message" and add Vibration to the alert but I see that this makes no difference. Seems like BlackBerry New Message is a different event altogether that is not listed in the Sounds applet. Any ideas on changing the alert tone & activating vibrate alert?
Last but not least, I understand on a real BB device you get to surf the net under the BB GRPS plan. In my case this would give me unlimited local usage. However on the XDA I am unable to use the Blanberry,NET APN to connect for regular web surfing. I am still defaulting to my carriers regular GPRN APN for Internet connectivity. Any idea if it is possible to use the Blackberry.Net for PIE access?
Thanks & Best Regards
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Regular BlackBerry synchronizes calendar & contacts to the local device. I do not think this is happning on the XDA. Any ideas on if it is possible and how to activate it?
Not currenttly possible. Tasks, events and contacts ability will apparently be there for XDA when BES 4 is released
When a message is received I hear a short beep. I tried changing the setting for Sound Event called "Inbox : New EMail Message" and add Vibration to the alert but I see that this makes no difference. Seems like BlackBerry New Message is a different event altogether that is not listed in the Sounds applet. Any ideas on changing the alert tone & activating vibrate alert?
No, but I too would love to know!
Last but not least, I understand on a real BB device you get to surf the net under the BB GRPS plan. In my case this would give me unlimited local usage. However on the XDA I am unable to use the Blanberry,NET APN to connect for regular web surfing. I am still defaulting to my carriers regular GPRN APN for Internet connectivity. Any idea if it is possible to use the Blackberry.Net for PIE access?
Same for me I think it's not currently possible for that - I did ask.
Thanks for your kind reply. Any idea when BES4 is coming out? Regards
Hello all Ive just ordered my universal on Orange, for delivery tomorrow, they are giving it to me for free on upgrade.
So now because I often use over my monthly minute allowance and having a few friends around the world I would like to use a VOIP service.
The only one I know of is Skype, as I am fairly new to this type of thing. So can anyone recommed a service that is cheap, easy to use, Universal compatible.
As for call costs I would like a service that is fairly cheap to call both landlines and mobiles. The mobiles would only really be in the UK, if that matters.
Any help is really appreciated. Many Thanks
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
Where did you manage to get version 3? - On the website you mentioned below I can only find 2.2 to buy for around 30 USD...
lutzh said:
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
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what if you use a BT headset like the JABRA? will the sound be routed to the the BT headset or to the external speaker?
matzie said:
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
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I use plusnet and love it and use the voip sevice to call landlines (free) from my laptop but I would love to know how to use my vario to do it. I presume I would do it via wifi through the broadband but dont know how. Please tell me if you can - thanks. I do have unlimited gprs but I would assume that I couldnt use plusnet this way as it is not broadband etc.
I'm using SJPhone!
It's for free
http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html
fring™
Is a mobile internet community and communication service that allows friends to connect, share experiences and enhance their online communities together.
Using your handset′s internet connection, you can interact with friends on all your favourite social networks including Skype®, MSN Messenger®, Google Talk™, ICQ, SIP, Twitter, Yahoo!™ and AIM®. You can listen to music with your Last.fm friends, check out what each other are up to on Facebook, receive alerts of new Google Mail™ and tailor make your very own fring by adding more cool experiences from fringAdd-ons™.
fring puts all your online friends into one, dynamic fringFriends™ buddy list, which is always connected so you can enjoy free calls and instant messaging with all your online friends, see their real-time status, and even find each other’s actual location.
fring makes your mobile the ultimate social device.
As well as it′s social appeal, fring also lets you make affordable local and international calls to landline and regular cellular numbers using your SkypeOut/SkypeIn account or almost any internet voice service (SIP) such as SIPNET, EuteliaVoIP, VoIPVoIP and VoIPTalk, even from non-SIP enabled handsets.
What′s more, fring does all the work for you, automatically logging you into your favorite WiFi hotspots so you save time and hassle without having to configure your WiFi access points each time.
As easy to download as a ringtone and simple to install and use, fring is PC-independent and does not require any dedicated hardware. All you need to use fring is a supported handset with internet connectivity and an internet data package or WiFi access.
fringsters and taking all of their internet communities mobile. More features will be added shortly.
I have created this thread and posted this app because I liked the most and wanted to share with all who might still not knowing about this app. You can also put your feedback here so that fring may hear you and may improve in future versions..........
Get more info here
Download :
EXE : Enjoy, Mirror.
Cab : Enjoy, Mirror.
Thanks for your feedbacks and testings..........
believers?nooo!!
just for the record>>>
Fring is realy a great app..BUT!!!!>>> nobody knows how it works outside of the good and stong network coveredge.
I talk about Dubai,and many other city like Dubai.My net is 24
24/7 and very expencive!BUT FRING GAVE ME NO SIGN OF FUNCTIONS>
At home in EU. works fine.If anybody knows whats wrong with 3G network,please share with me.HSDPA comes as well,BUT FRING DON T WORK!!!
well before some one tells me the wise idea to download the phone specific app,I KNOW IT!!my HTC jade is ok,and the app is good.Just don twork.
insane.I rather have msn and skype separately than having a program what occupies place and looks good,BUT DON T WORK!!
helios
What does fring wants me to register a fring account first to use all the other IMs?
BB88 said:
What does fring wants me to register a fring account first to use all the other IMs?
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Ya, We should first regsiter fring account within the device ( One time ) to use all other IMs.
Its 100% free app..........
Thanks and regards
important and fantastic
Dear ALL!!
As our senior member wrote earlyer,it is a truly amazing app.
Besides my problem,(happen to me) the program is working in EU or other modern countrys.Dubai is back in time with 20years in the communication yet.
The fantastic thing in Fring is that you belive it or not>> you don t need a sim card in your phone to use it!!
I advise you gyus to look at the youtube or google for the Fring videos!!You can be pretty surprised with the outcome!
Well,you def. need a strong wifi connection.!!!With 3G I don t guarantee full satysfaction!
Don t forget the phone specific download.On the Fring site,you need to find your own download cab.!
happy Fring helios
when on site of fring, no support for htc touch hd? Which version should i take then?
mouki_9 said:
when on site of fring, no support for htc touch hd? Which version should i take then?
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Download from my mirror or else select anyother htc devices ( i.e diamond ).
hmmm, just tried it, but it isn't very finger friendly... and no option to hide offline contacts....... it's got potential, but lacks user friendlyness
I just gave it another try too - and it still has the same annoying alert sound when receiving a chat msg! I can't find anyway to disable or change it other than muting my sound altogether with. If there was an option to change or disable the sound I might use it.
Skype or one of the others?
Thanks for the post.
So which is best and cheapest if I want to call
my folks thru fring to their cell phone, (but not smartphone): skype? Where can I find a comparison
of pros and cons between the different voice data internet systems? (I have a full data plan thru T-mobile, and use a Trinity wm5.)
green
is there a way to use fring with 3g WAP access?
in other words, for port 8080 only?
Screenshots?
Doesnt it work over GPRS? 3G? or WAP?... so it only works on wireless or while connected via activesync? O_O
starnge but happy
Heyyyahh All!
so many question about FRING.Why noone take a sneek wiev on youtube,or google,but the best is the Fring website.Planty answers,and even more pics films e.t.c are there.
When I met with this program first,I needed a free or at least cheap communication in Dubai!sorry FROM Dubai!Back to EU!
On 3G ,it works badly if you call your Mom!On wifi it needs a good signal.GPRS sometimes ok,but most of the week signals are just fine for chat!
The best option is to configure the SIP client.If you have voipbuster,it is easy!Check out the data on theyer website,and you can see what country is free to call?!!!!On the otherhand it is always free from computer 2 computer!!Or from Fring to another Fring user!
There is no cheaper tan FREE!!!!!
The annoying beep is there in the msg client.With the system sounds and noticication you can fine tune it.It is visible with HTC and some fresh Rom s !!
It is the IM client sounds in the notification setup.In the system setup tabell!
The connection is buffling stable on wifi,and it was specialy fantastic at the airports!!!Good to say helo I m alive for free!!The option to chat in the same time wit 6 different chat client is just great.
well: look at the website,and learn as I did.Find som wifi and Fring away!!!
helios
Checking it out
Thank Helios,
Good tips; will do. g
i have had this thing for a while.
at first they did not support bt headset, i don't know if it does now though. maybe they have updated it. I like it. definately recommend it,
BLOCKED in ETISALAT
heliosismagic said:
just for the record>>>
Fring is realy a great app..BUT!!!!>>> nobody knows how it works outside of the good and stong network coveredge.
I talk about Dubai,and many other city like Dubai.My net is 24
24/7 and very expencive!BUT FRING GAVE ME NO SIGN OF FUNCTIONS>
At home in EU. works fine.If anybody knows whats wrong with 3G network,please share with me.HSDPA comes as well,BUT FRING DON T WORK!!!
well before some one tells me the wise idea to download the phone specific app,I KNOW IT!!my HTC jade is ok,and the app is good.Just don twork.
insane.I rather have msn and skype separately than having a program what occupies place and looks good,BUT DON T WORK!!
helios
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ETISALAT UAE has blocked the website or IP for www.fring.com, which is required to authenticate the device before using other IM.
ASh
fring on etisalat
Ahdeshpande!!
You right,but as u probably know,etisalat in UAE. is just another fu..ng stupid company,who belives in fate,and the kingdom of communication!!
Well there are a number of softwares what u can use to go on any website in the world.!
Not proxy servers,but others!
just a few>> ghost surf,hotspot shild,ultra surf...This is a small list of softwares,u can use during sign up on the Fring site!!
I do,and work fantastic.After the sign up procedure it will work on your phone!
It is truly a pain in the a.... how etisalat try to control the web.But u know,it is uncontrollable,and with one of the above mentioned software,u can browse anything!!ANYTHING!!!
P.S the ultrasurf programm is attached.It is a good start for invisible browsing!HAVE FUN
helios
etisalat the bastardo!!!!
Please don t forget>>>> the u94 program works only on explorer.Not on mozzilla!!
So u can open now the Fring with explorer.After u unzipped the program u94,and setup is ok,please give a few seconds for bild up the vpn connection.Don t let the automatic site to come and load fully.It is not important.A Padlock appears on the lower left corner on your desktop,if the MEDICINE is ready to use.U can use for many other sites.If u need some hard sites,it isn t the strongest encryption.So it doesn t work for all sites,but many!!
helios
I'd like to save everyone the trouble of figuring out how to get this done by sharing my setup with you. The VOIP itself works great over 3G/4G and Wifi, but to use the VPN you'll need to be on Wifi, 3g VPN doesn't seem to work.
Requirements:
SipDroid app in the market
A free account at pbxes.org
A paid account at callcentric.com (~$.019 a minute to call anywhere in the US)
A paid account at SuperVPN.net ($4 /mo if you pay for the whole year)
First set up a pbxes.org account, and connect to it with the SipDroid app, I recommend using this guide to walk you through the process.
http://guardianproject.info/2010/05...e-mobile-phone-system-for-android-and-beyond/
Once you have that working there is one crucial adjustment to be made within SipDroid. For some reason it comes default with all sorts of audio codecs, but only ONE of them seemed to work on the EVO, the Speex codec. So go into audio codecs and switch everything but speex to "never".
After that you should have a working VOIP system but you'll still need some kind of trunk if you want to make outgoing calls to land lines or cell phones. There are many solutions for this but I recommend callcentric.com, they seem to be the most recommended for this type of setup, and they worked great for me. You can pay $20 a month for unlimited US calling, this means you can be anywhere in the world and call the US for just $20 a month. Or you can prepay (this is what I did), then you pay a flat rate of about $.019 a minute to call the US from anywhere, and if you reach you pre paid limit, it just cuts off until you recharge it.
Once you have your callcentric account purchased, just go into your pbxes.org admin area and under trunks add one for call centric, use your callcentric # as the username, and callcentric.com as the sip server. Then go under Outbound routing, add a new one, name it whatever and choose your callcentric trunk from the pulldown menu, submit the changes and you're done.
Now you should be able to successfully make outbound calls to anywhere using SipDroid.
Lastly, this was the most challenging for me, the VPN. Apparently android, including 2.2, has some major issues with maintaining vpn connections, especially when you try and use them for VOIP. There is a huge issue queue in the android google groups forum where the problem is openly discussed without a real solution. BUT, while it appears the majority of VPN connections will fail, they CAN work if you get it set up just right. Setting up VPN's, specifically VPN's tailored for mobile devices, is not something I know how to do. In the android group thread someone mentioned SuperVPN.net as a working solution, I checked it out and sure enough they work great, I had zero problems with them the whole time I was out of the country.
So create a supervpn.net account, and then on your phone go into Menu -> Wireless & Networks -> VPN -> Add VPN -> Add PPTP VPN, create the connection and you are good to go.
*I didn't set up an inbound call # with callcentric as I didn't need one, I assume after you upgrade your callcentric account, adding the inbound trunk is similar to the outbound. Be sure and look into getting a free inbound number from sipgate.com before you go and pay for one, you'll be locked to a California area code, but free is free.
An alternative I use is having an Asterisk server at home and use IAXAgent from the market. IAX does not have the problems that SIP does when going over NAT. I can make calls over 3G or wifi. A lot of SIP providers also provide IAX accounts. IAX is just a better way to go for making calls over the Internet. SIP is excellent for the LAN.
ChrisDos said:
An alternative I use is having an Asterisk server at home and use IAXAgent from the market. IAX does not have the problems that SIP does when going over NAT. I can make calls over 3G or wifi. A lot of SIP providers also provide IAX accounts. IAX is just a better way to go for making calls over the Internet. SIP is excellent for the LAN.
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Oops.. the method I posted actually works on 3g and 4g also, it's only the VPN that requires Wifi, I had worded it incorrectly, now it's fixed. (thank you)
I looked into setting up an asterisk server, but I didn't want to have to depend on my own server or home connection being available whenever I needed it, especially when I was traveling for more than a week.
Is IAX the same as a trunk, does it cost anything to connect to land lines or cellphones?
True, you method does make SIP work because you are using a VPN. IAX is an alternative to SIP. It is NAT friendly, and as long as the port is not blocked, it just works. Though, there are a fewer choices for clients compared to SIP. IAX was created by the Asterisk team. I do not know of any VOIP systems that support IAX, bug that does not mean they dont exist. I am a heavy Astersk guy, so IAX was my cup of tea.
What advantages does this have over google voice?
I'm curious cause i'll be going to england soon and would be nice to make calls over wifi.
ShoxV said:
What advantages does this have over google voice?
I'm curious cause i'll be going to england soon and would be nice to make calls over wifi.
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None, in fact, it his disadvantages (See below). Also, most businesses, schools, etc. will block just about every VPN method. OpenVPN is the most flexible one I have found, which might be able to sneak around by using alternate sub-1000 ports (which most places won't block, since they require root access on whatever server they're running from).
OP: Might wanna take a look at this...
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/supervpn.net
drmacinyasha said:
None, in fact, it his disadvantages (See below). Also, most businesses, schools, etc. will block just about every VPN method. OpenVPN is the most flexible one I have found, which might be able to sneak around by using alternate sub-1000 ports (which most places won't block, since they require root access on whatever server they're running from).
OP: Might wanna take a look at this...
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/supervpn.net
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Not sure what you're talking about, it saved me hundreds of dollars in roaming minutes while I was in Belize. Some places do block vpns I'm sure but I never had any issues, but you don't need the vpn itself unless you're in a country that blocks voip altogether, at which point occasional vpn is greater than no vpn.
Also supervpn was the only method I found that actually works on android, I think the risks referenced in that link you posted really only apply to desktop vpn use, not phones. Openvpn is great for somewhat advanced users and if you have a computer you can depend on as a server while you're out of the country for days or weeks, this guide isn't meant for someone capable of managing that.
As for Google voice, it just initiates an inbound call to your actual cell number, which does zero good when you're trying to avoid roaming. Now the new gmail implementation of voice shows promise as an actual voip solution, but currently that version is desktop only from what I can tell.
How does it work on Gingerbread?
Do you need a Gizmo5 / Sipgate account etc?
Anyone tested it?
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Paul22000 said:
How does it work on Gingerbread?
Do you need a Gizmo5 / Sipgate account etc?
Anyone tested it?
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I believe its just there for applications that wish to take advantage of it,
It's in Call Settings/Internet Call settings. You will need some sort of VOIP account.
Works well. You can set it to dial out using that account with various parameters, and choose to use that account to receive calls.
Works well.
DebauchedSloth said:
It's in Call Settings/Internet Call settings. You will need some sort of VOIP account.
Works well. You can set it to dial out using that account with various parameters, and choose to use that account to receive calls.
Works well.
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nice!
can someone post a screenshot of the dept of details available?
I mean: what settings can you put in there?
ICE? STUN? secure rtp? and so on
what's the battery usage?
can you set it to register to the sip gateway only when on wifi or policies like that?
thanks
Paul22000 said:
How does it work on Gingerbread?
Do you need a Gizmo5 / Sipgate account etc?
Anyone tested it?
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It seems to work with the new SIP that comes with Nexus S. BUT..After studying all the documentation and going thru all the screens it appears that it will only work of wifi? So, I removed all my info on that sip account on the Nexus S and installed the Sipdroid/Gizmo5/GVCall back as per your previous post on the "how to". This method gives me the option of wifi OR 3G. It appears to work . The little green led shows up on top (it does not when using the new SIP stuff on Nexus S) so everything appears to be configured correctly. I have not fully tested it but my bet is that it will work over both wifi and 3G unless of course TMobile somehow prevents this.
I actually ended up going to Best Buy last night to check out the Nexus S
The SIP stuff is in the settings, with not too many options. And yes, you have to put in an account. It does nothing unless you have your own SIP account. (What a letdown, Google.) So basically it's just an integrated SipDroid app into the OS, but with very, very few options.
Of course I didn't want to put in my own Gizmo account details into the Best Buy display phone (it didn't have internet access anyway... Best Buy Fail), so I couldn't test it. But there's an option to select when to use VoIP and I forget but the option to select "All Calls" says right next to it "Wifi only" or something.
So I'd imagine this is pretty much useless because
A) It won't allow 3G VoIP
B) For those using VoIP before, other apps (such as CSipSimple) have WAAAAY more options.
C) And in terms of networking/etc, they might even function better since they've been around longer and have been optimized/etc. (Of course, I didn't test that, but just going by CSipSimple's settings menu, there seems to be a lot of customization/options/features.)
Oh yeah, in case anyone's interested:
[Guide] Unlimited Wifi/3G VoIP Calling
How's the battery life using the integrated sip?
I've seen my battery cut by almost half for using CSipDroid and was hoping an integrated SIP, as basic as it is, wouldn't drain the battery that much.
Wonder what call & connection quality is like too??
A very limited unscientific test, but calling in to a conference call today using the built-in SIP client resulted in everybody but me hearing an echo. Using a SPA2102 on the same Internet connection resulted in a clear call with no echo. I've done a lot of tests using my Vibrant and could never get the quality acceptable for SIP calls without echo and still be able to hear the other party. The Nexus S so far has performed better, but in my opinion from limited tests still suffers the same type of issue.
Well, I did some more testing today as my previous test was just a quickie-that is with the "Sipdroid/Gizmo5/GVcallback" method. With that method I could ring to/from another phone BUT when I tested further, I could only talk/hear from one end while the other phone could hear me, I could NOT hear anything that they were saying. When using the resident SIP that comes with the Nexus S, I could hear/talk on both ends (my Nexus to another phone) over wifi of course. I don't know if this is coming off my minutes yet and will check later today to see that.
So it seems that indeed one can only "Sip" call from the Nexus S via wifi with the SIP that comes resident with the Nexus S. Of course with Sipdroid there are a lot of other settings that I have not explored and maybe it needs to be tweaked? But for now, I am gonna stick with the resident SIP in the Nexus S.
An interesting thing also is that I tried the app "Fring" on my Nexus and that did not work correctly either on my Nexus S.
Paul22000 said:
The SIP stuff is in the settings, with not too many options. And yes, you have to put in an account. It does nothing unless you have your own SIP account. (What a letdown, Google.) So basically it's just an integrated SipDroid app into the OS, but with very, very few options.
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Thank you to everyone here for posting some really useful information about Android 2.3 and SIP. I have a sipgate account and the day I bought my Nexus S (I stood in line in cold weather in the morning to get it), shortly after I brought it back to my office, I was able to "just barely" get it to work with my sipgate account. By "just barely" I mean that I was able to place a few outgoing calls but the latency was so extreme there is no way I could use it again. Now what is quite amusing is that I also have a 2008 unlocked Nokia E71 running Symbian (which has a pretty decent built-in SIP stack in its firmware from Nokia (this is before Nokia caved to the mobile telecoms and started to remove their SIP stack from their smart phones). Well well well, I have *zero* problems with my E71 and my sipgate account (other than some latency but the latency I can pretty much live with, I just have to make sure I don't cut off the other person speaking during a conversation and wait for them to finish their point). Actually, latency is really undesirable but the point being is that the Nexus S is my first Android phone and one of the selling points is Android 2.3 built in SIP stack bundled with the unlocked no-contract Nexus S (I paid full price at Best Buy) and for all the cackling and hoopla Google has been doing on their web sites about Nexus S built-in SIP, that I can't get it to work with sipgate buy my Symbian E71 works with sipgate pretty nicely, this is egg on the face of Google and they should be admonished for their marketing faux pas on SIP / VOIP in Nexus S. It makes me wonder if Google is somehow trying to cripple the built-in SIP stack and configuration options on the Nexus S such as to possibly somehow tilt the playing field to favor Google Voice (I.e., forget VOIP on your Nexus S, just get a mobile carrier service on 3G like T-Mobile account and then maximize the heck out of our Google Voice service). Don't get me wrong, I appreciate Google Voice, but if you're going to put YouTube videos together to promote open protocols, user choice, "Pure Google" and so on, at least make your SIP stack on par with the often lately made-fun-of Symbian which has a superior SIP stack and SIP configuration UI options on the Nokia E71 compared to the Nexus S!
note to Google: don't blame sipgate, this is an Android SIP stack and configuration issue.
Question:
When you call out, what number does it show as caller ID?
Your cell number?
Google Voice number?
SIP number?
Other?
Nexus S VOIP
I was able to setup my Nexus S to work with my VOIP provider Callcentric. The built in Google Nexus S SIP stack only works on Wifi & not with 3G. You can place SIP calls on Wifi with no additional applications installed as long as you have a account with any VOIP provider who uses/allows SIP.
I used Nokia N97 & N95 for years for making & receiving SIP calls with 3G but the voice quality is usually poor on 3G networks.
Using the native Google Nexus S SIP stack on Wifi I called my parents in India, I used it for approximately 45 minutes, the call quality is not as good when compared with the call quality using Nokia N97 on Wifi networks. The volume is very low even when I turned the Nexus S Speakerphone on and set the volume to maximum. I heard echo most of the time when I was talking, the other side had no issues with echo.
The SIP stack on Nexus S needs some work and I am sure there will be more customization features added in the future. I'd not blame google on the missing 3G voip feature yet as my previous experience on 3G sip calls with Nokia weren't too great. Nokia had sip enabled phones for years and it is still not perfect when making calls on 3G network.
Finally when making calls using SIP the other party sees your SIP number. If your VOIP provider allows it, you can customize your outgoing number to display your cell phone number or any other custom number.
My phone fails registration on Callcentric. Any idea why?
auplainsman said:
I was able to setup my Nexus S to work with my VOIP provider Callcentric. The built in Google Nexus S SIP stack only works on Wifi & not with 3G. You can place SIP calls on Wifi with no additional applications installed as long as you have a account with any VOIP provider who uses/allows SIP.
I used Nokia N97 & N95 for years for making & receiving SIP calls with 3G but the voice quality is usually poor on 3G networks.
Using the native Google Nexus S SIP stack on Wifi I called my parents in India, I used it for approximately 45 minutes, the call quality is not as good when compared with the call quality using Nokia N97 on Wifi networks. The volume is very low even when I turned the Nexus S Speakerphone on and set the volume to maximum. I heard echo most of the time when I was talking, the other side had no issues with echo.
The SIP stack on Nexus S needs some work and I am sure there will be more customization features added in the future. I'd not blame google on the missing 3G voip feature yet as my previous experience on 3G sip calls with Nokia weren't too great. Nokia had sip enabled phones for years and it is still not perfect when making calls on 3G network.
Finally when making calls using SIP the other party sees your SIP number. If your VOIP provider allows it, you can customize your outgoing number to display your cell phone number or any other custom number.
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Errors in registration may be due to multiple reasons. With the limited number of options we have for settings, my guess would be either incorrect login information or wrong transport type selection.
Here are my callcentric settings. May be these settings will help others too.
username: Your sip username* (Example: 17771234567)
*Do not include @callcentric.com as suffix. Also, this is not your regular callcentric account login name.
Password: Your sip password *Not the callcentric account login password
Server: callcentric.com
Optional Settings:
Outbound Proxy Address: callcentric.com
port number: 5060
Transport type: UDP