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Hello all Ive just ordered my universal on Orange, for delivery tomorrow, they are giving it to me for free on upgrade.
So now because I often use over my monthly minute allowance and having a few friends around the world I would like to use a VOIP service.
The only one I know of is Skype, as I am fairly new to this type of thing. So can anyone recommed a service that is cheap, easy to use, Universal compatible.
As for call costs I would like a service that is fairly cheap to call both landlines and mobiles. The mobiles would only really be in the UK, if that matters.
Any help is really appreciated. Many Thanks
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
Where did you manage to get version 3? - On the website you mentioned below I can only find 2.2 to buy for around 30 USD...
lutzh said:
that was discussed today - here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31799&highlight=
see my answer:
i am using X-Pro Softphone for Pocket PC on my MDA pro (t-mobile universal version), it works perfectly with my german voip-account. you can use four different voip-accounts in this tool! currently i am using the version 3 pro. the only mismatch you will have (as with skype too): it only uses the external speaker instead of the phone speaker. but if you use your headset (you should anyway because of the weight of the universal;-)) it works the way it should!
details are here: http://www.xten.com
any questions left? feel free to ask!
cheers, lutz
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what if you use a BT headset like the JABRA? will the sound be routed to the the BT headset or to the external speaker?
matzie said:
Hi,
I expect you've seen my post elsewhere asking about voip clients for the Universal. I've lived and breathed voip for the last three months at work so I know something about it...there seems to be three basic kinds of voip services:
1) wholly proprietory services - closed source client and protocols. Skype is the perfect example. Will let 'real' phone users dial you (they call that 'Skype in') on a real phone number, and will let you call 'real' phones (they call that 'Skype out') for a fee. For Skype, there's a client for the Universal (I think, I don't own one yet). Other services - you're probably out of luck.
2) semi-proprietory services - perhaps providing their own client software, but built on open protocols (usually SIP, session initiation protocol), so you get an enhanced experience with their client. Often the client is locked to only talk to their servers. Examples would be Gizmo or Wengo. Could be an option for a Universal user if you find one that works with other clients than their own, AND if there's a generic SIP client that works on WM5 - and according to my thread, Xten's PPC client works ok.
3) standards-based services - client-agnostic, built on open-protocols (again usually SIP). They give you a username and server details, you enter them into your client - be it a PC-based softphone, a pocketpc application, or a piece of hardware such as an ATA (analogue telephone adaptor - let's you plug a physical phone, even a cordless one, into your home network and use it to make VOIP calls).
There's a fair few voip services like this nowadays, either companies who 'only' do that, or voip services as addons to a traditional ISP service - that's the case with my company, PlusNet, which offers a voip service to our broadband customers. You get sip to sip calls free, a free 0845 number to receive calls on, and you can choose from three different ways to pay for outbound calls - either PAYG (buy credit in £5 blocks, use it up as you make calls) or subscription ('Anytime' or 'Evenings and Weekends' - pay a monthly subscription and get a block of minutes to use peak or off-peak respectively). Sorry to sound like I'm advertising, it's just corporate pride - have a look at http://www.plus.net/plustalk to see more.
Hope this is a useful primer for you!
cheers
Matt S
(firmly OFF-DUTY PlusNet employee ;-)
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I use plusnet and love it and use the voip sevice to call landlines (free) from my laptop but I would love to know how to use my vario to do it. I presume I would do it via wifi through the broadband but dont know how. Please tell me if you can - thanks. I do have unlimited gprs but I would assume that I couldnt use plusnet this way as it is not broadband etc.
I'm using SJPhone!
It's for free
http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html
Long time lurker, first-time poster.
I'm after some advice concerning using Windows Mobile in a corporate environment. My company is currently dishing out Blackberry RIM devices to anyone who needs email on the go, but we've got a really stable and secure AD infrastructure, and are going to go with WM ASAP for email, contacts, web etc etc etc.
Anyway, I've been tasked to bring these devices into the company properly; making sure the devices are fit for purpose, making sure that there's hardware support, and...making sure that they can be managed from our Service Desk, which is where I need some input.
I've used SOTI's Pocket Controller in the past and immediately had this in mind to deal with remote management. MobiControl takes this several steps forward and really does tick every box. I've scoured the 'net for other remote management/administration apps, but have more or less hit a blank. The only one that can be considered close is IntelliSync, but seems to fall over in several areas. Does anyone know of any other remote admin apps out there that can operate over wireless/cellular data connections? At the very least, I cannot deliver a choice of one to choose from, although I can't imagine anything else coming close to MobiControl.
Thanks, and well done everyone - top top site!
H
Do you use Exchange 2003? Either standalone or as part of SBS2003?? If so, Exchange 2003 SP2 has the MSFP (Messaging and Security Feature Pack) included, which allows remote administration - and remote wipe - of Windows Mobile devices (especially if they run Windows Mobile 6.0!!).
Another product from MS is the new System Center Configuration Manager (replacement for SMS) - this includes mobile device provisioning. There's a 120-day trial available, but I'm not sure when/if the product has been released yet. See this link for more details.
My company will be looking into SCCM in the new year as, at last, some of our senior execs are just getting wise to the possiblility of getting their email on the move (We won't be touching those "dark coloured fruit" devices with a long stick!!).
Cheers,
Mark.
Thanks Mark,
Yep - we're running Exchange 2K3 but I'm not sure what service pack we're on. I think our Exchange team are in the process of upgrading to 2007 - hopefully, this will also include some Windows Mobile goodies.
Most of our devices are WM5; I'm the only one running WM6, but most of the devices we're looking at are WM6.
One of my colleagues were talking to our Orange account manager a couple of days ago, and they mentioned Mobile Device Manager 2008. I will check out System Centre - thank you for the pointer.
Just out of interest, what line of business is your company in? From my converations with the other Groups within my company, the scope of this "investigation" has become rather large! Initially, it was going to be a straight swap for the PIM functions of the Blackberry, but I'm also now looking at GPS navigation via longitude and latitude co-ordinates, barcode scanning, printing via Bluetooth AND across the cellular data link, and a few other small (but useful) functions.
Can of worms...pop!
H
Hi,
I just recently purchased an HTC 8525 on the AT&T network. Is it worth investing in an unlimited data plan? Is there ways around this? I would like to be able to access the internet/email when I do not have access to WiFi. Any suggestions? Also what do you guys recommend be done to a stock 8525, in terms of applications, system structure, etc. The phone does have WM6 installed.
Howdy Newbie from my birth-state,
First, if you havent already done so, read through the entire Hermes Wiki. That will answer many of your questions. The unlimited data plan is KEY if you want to use, for ex., XM radio/MobiTV or receive GPS maps, etc.=basically anything that is "streaming". Just keep reading everything here-"seek and ye shall find". Welcome
MaicohSasha said:
Howdy Newbie from my birth-state,
First, if you havent already done so, read through the entire Hermes Wiki. That will answer many of your questions. The unlimited data plan is KEY if you want to use, for ex., XM radio/MobiTV or receive GPS maps, etc.=basically anything that is "streaming". Just keep reading everything here-"seek and ye shall find". Welcome
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Ditto. Did gain alot of knowledge through research! Now I have a leet phone w/ lots mods and hacks!
hi...see the well done new member intro (by stevebonning) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325748
scasper76 said:
Hi,
I just recently purchased an HTC 8525 on the AT&T network. Is it worth investing in an unlimited data plan? Is there ways around this? I would like to be able to access the internet/email when I do not have access to WiFi. Any suggestions?
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As an employee, I'll be the first to tell you: Spend the $40-50/mo and get one of the unlimited plans. I should've taken a picture of a customer I had to tell had over $200 in data charges alone today. You've got 2 choices: $39.99 for unl. data and 1500 txts, or $49.99 for unl. everything. You've got the device, so spend the money to use it to its fullest.
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As an employee, I'll be the first to tell you: Spend the $40-50/mo and get one of the unlimited plans. I should've taken a picture of a customer I had to tell had over $200 in data charges alone today. You've got 2 choices: $39.99 for unl. data and 1500 txts, or $49.99 for unl. everything. You've got the device, so spend the money to use it to its fullest.
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I agree with the above poster. Get the unl data. You will find yourself doing things on your phone when your bored, ie net surfing and such. Plus I like to use internet sharing on my laptop when i am not home.
I got the MediaMax 200 plan for $19.99/mo. Unlimited internet, great price. Don't know if it's still available, but I signed up for it online. Also look at the threads-there's a thread about this program and how to get it.
Best wishes,
Steve Bonning
stevebonning said:
I got the MediaMax 200 plan for $19.99/mo. Unlimited internet, great price. Don't know if it's still available, but I signed up for it online. Also look at the threads-there's a thread about this program and how to get it.
Best wishes,
Steve Bonning
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Steve,
Which program?
Not a program, it's a data plan for the phone. Was available via Cingular/AT&T's online site and through their Business Portal (via employees who have deals with them). Don't know if it's still around, but probably worth searching for.
Steve
Here's the details from Cingular.com web site for MediaMax 200 @ $19.99. Effectively is unlimited internet access and 200 messages.
MEdia Max 200 BundleGet ready to open up the power of your phone! Enjoy unlimited high quality video and entertainment in the palm of your hand. Get UNLIMITED access to Cellular Video, MEdiaTM Net and the freedom to message any way to any one with 200 Messages. Included in your MEdia Max 200 bundle:
UNLIMITED Cellular Video
Cellular Video brings you video clips of your favorite TV shows, music videos, movie trailers, comedians and sports highlights. Play high-quality news, sports, weather, and entertainment video clips on demand on your 3G phone. Plus, you can add exclusive video programming from HBO MobileSM and HBO Family MobileSM.
UNLIMITED MEdia Net
With MEdia Net, you can browse the mobile web, check your Email, get your sports scores, movie times, weather and news right on your mobile phone. Plus, you can access the latest ringtones, games, graphics and AT&T Mobile Music.
200 Messages (5¢/additional messages)
You have the freedom to message any way to any one - text, picture, video and IM - without worrying what each message costs. That means every message counts the same. You can send and receive ANY combination of messages. Want to send all picture messages? No problem. All IMs? Go ahead and chat away - send and receive messages for less than pennies per day!
International messages not included. Charges for international messages sent from the U.S. are 25¢ for Text Messages and 50¢ for Picture/Video Messages. Standard rates apply to all incoming messages when in the U.S. Additional charges for premium messages and content apply. Messages over 300 KBs billed an additional 50¢/message. Where available; see att.com/cv for availability. For full details on Messaging or MEdia Net, see the AT&T MEdia brochure, att.com/mediaterms. Pay-Per-Use Charges: Text/Instant Messaging 15¢/message; Picture/Video Messages 25¢/message; MEdia Net Browsing 1¢/KB. MEdia Net and MEdia Bundles are not available on PDAs/Pocket PCs, RIM® devices or LaptopConnect cards. If your usage of the Services (including unlimited data plans) on other carriers' wireless networks ("offnet usage") during any two consecutive months exceeds your offnet usage allowance, AT&T may at its option terminate your wireless service or access to data Services, deny your continued use of other carriers' coverage, or change your plan to one imposing usage charges for offnet usage. Your offnet usage allowance is equal to the lesser of 6 megabytes or 20% of the kilobytes included with your plan and for messaging plans the lesser of 3000 messages or 50% of the messages included with your plan. AT&T will provide notice that it intends to take any of the above actions and you may terminate your agreement.
Steve
From newbie to another, do not leave AT&T to another carrier other than Verizon otherwise you'll find that the streaming media does not stream so well anymore other than wifi. As far as ROMS I have never had a problem with Schaps ROMs. Holidays with ever read & make-up your own mind or build your own.
Ah, nice Steve. Thanks for the info!
Better yet; cancel the AT&T, send back the phone. Buy a hermes off craigslist or ebay.
Activate a new account with t-mobile. Sell the phone you get from them on CL or ebay, or keep as a backup.
Unlock the hermes with the free unlocker.
Use with unlimited cheap $5.99 t-zones (just put the proxy server settings in the hermes to make it work).
Basically if you want the fastest and you can afford it, stay with AT&T. If you want the cheapest, the tzones can't be beat. It's kind of pokey, about dialup speed. But it works for me for:
Web surfing (traffic cam, cl, ebay)
Exchange Push email!
popmail
webmail
Orange UK offer an off-peak internet access plan for £5/month for up to 1GB.
The "small print" appears to prohibit access to many services such as instant messaging (e.g. Skype and MSN) as well as VOIP etc.
Does anyone know how rigidly they inforce this policy?
Can one "get away" with very occasional use of MSN or Skype?
Do they block ports?
Would like to hear form anyone with experience of this bundle.
Thanks,
- Steve
How can I wifi tether my phone without paying the fee?
some people told me change UA string, but I have no clue what to do, need some help thanks
Any one have any ideads?
You don't get charged any fees. Tethering is free. All you will be doing is using your data service you're already paying for.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA Premium App
lilaznhobo said:
How can I wifi tether my phone without paying the fee?
some people told me change UA string, but I have no clue what to do, need some help thanks
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According to the TOS from T-Mobile there is a fee associated with tethering.
However if you are rooted you can use the Wi-Fi tether .apk from Google's code source [http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list] or one of many apps on the market if you can still find them. Some carriers are blocking them.
IF you typically use Firefox, or Google's Chrome as your browser of choice you shouldn't have any problems. But if you use IE it might trip a trigger if T-Mobile should use a sniffer.
Umm I dont believe its free because I received a text message saying that I need to pay $15/month for wi-fi tethering/hotspot
I guess everyone is different... Maybe it has something to do with the people who pay for unlimited data? Because, realistically, if you're paying for unlimited data, what the hell are they going to do? As a matter of fact, I have unlimited data and would tether without them charging me. I'm rooted now and use wireless tether.
But, if you're rooted, use wireless tether that I have attached.
don_perrignon said:
i guess everyone is different... Maybe it has something to do with the people who pay for unlimited data? Because, realistically, if you're paying for unlimited data, what the hell are they going to do? As a matter of fact, i have unlimited data and would tether without them charging me. I'm rooted now and use wireless tether.
But, if you're rooted, use wireless tether that i have attached.
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from t-mobile's web site [http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/Popup.aspx?PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions&print=true]
10. * data plans and other features. You will be charged for data usage on a pay per use basis unless you are required to maintain a data plan (“data plan”) as part of your service, or as otherwise provided by your rate plan or prepaid data pass. Permissible and prohibited uses: Your data plan is intended for web browsing, messaging, and similar activities on your device and not on any other equipment. Unless explicitly permitted by your data plan, other uses, including for example, using your device as a modem or tethering your device to a personal computer or other hardware, are not permitted. other examples of prohibited uses can be found in section 17. Protective measures: To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth. If your total usage exceeds 5gb (amount is subject to change without notice; please check t-mobile’s t&cs on www.t-mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle. If you use your data plan in a manner that could interfere with other customers’ service, affect our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or degrade service quality for other customers, we may suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, or switch you to a more appropriate data plan. Downloadable content and applications: Content or applications (e.g., downloadable or networked applications, wallpapers, ringtones, games, and productivity tools) (“content & apps”) that you can purchase with your device may not be sold by t-mobile. For some third party purchases, although the charges may appear on your t-mobile bill, t-mobile is not responsible for the content & apps, including download, installation, use, transmission failure, interruption, or delay, or any content or website you may be able to access through the content & apps. Any support questions for these content & apps may be directed to the third party seller. You may be able to restrict access and certain services by implementing controls available at www.t-mobile.com or by calling t-mobile. When you use, download or install content & apps sold by a third party seller, you may be subject to license terms between you and third parties. When you use, download, or install content & apps that you purchase from t-mobile, the content & apps are licensed to you by t-mobile and may be subject to additional license terms between you and third parties. Whether purchased from t-mobile or a third party, any content & apps you purchase are licensed for personal, lawful, non-commercial use on your device only. You may not transfer, copy, or reverse engineer any content & apps, or alter, disable or circumvent any digital rights management security features embedded in the content & apps. Content & apps may not be transferable from one device to another device. Some devices or content & apps may continue to have contact with our network without your knowledge which may result in additional charges, for example, while roaming internationally. Software on your device may automatically shut down or limit the use of content & apps or other features or services without warning. T-mobile is not responsible for any third party content, advertisements, or websites you may be able to access using your device. Use of information: T-mobile may retain, use, and share information collected when you download, use, or install some content & apps, may update your content & apps remotely, or may disable or remove any content & apps at any time. Refer to t-mobile’s privacy policy, as well as the content & apps creator/owner’s privacy policy for information regarding their use of information collected when you download, install, or use any third party content & apps. We are not responsible for any transmission failure, interruption, or delay related to content & apps, or any content or website you may be able to access through the content & apps. Wi-fi calling: You acknowledge and agree that your use of any wi-fi network is permissible and that you (and not t-mobile) are responsible for your use. Cell broadcasts (alerts that go to certain customers) and wireless priority service (wps) may not be available with wi-fi calling.
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lilaznhobo said:
Umm I dont believe its free because I received a text message saying that I need to pay $15/month for wi-fi tethering/hotspot
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I use my phones tether every day for hours. To tether my girls work laptop for her to do her work and to watch netflix and to tether my ps3 to play online(which is down at this moment and is killing me not being able to play cod).
I been doing this since I got the phone last year in december. Not once I been charged nor sent to any website asking me to buy any tether plan.
By the way, I don't use any tether app. I use the tether that came with the phone.
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so I have tried the attachment on this post, tmobile still blocked that wifi tether app. The link that was provided was invalid. I really dont have any clue what to do. oh an I am using firefox.
lilaznhobo said:
so I have tried the attachment on this post, tmobile still blocked that wifi tether app. The link that was provided was invalid. I really dont have any clue what to do. oh an I am using firefox.
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I've used the Wi-Fi tether .apk for a while. In fact i'm refreshing Slacker on my Nook Color via my Cell phone's wi-fi right now.....
Have you tried the app called Barnacle