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Lockdown Hermes (JasJam) for business use

Hi all,
I am considering buying the i-mate JasJam for business use by field workers, to use a web based application for maintenance. One of my biggest concerns is the requirement to lock down components of the unit to prevent unauthorised use - for example:
- restrict PocketIE to only the webapp site
- disable video calling
- remove unneeded apps
- disable email
etc.
No one from our "friendly" carrier (Telstra) can help me out - I need to use their service as the 850MHz band NextG network has the coverage and range that I require. I know that you can restrict IE5/6 to one or more websites using content advisor, but can't find out if PocketIE has the same registry keys.
Before I get flamed for not allowing my field workers free and full access to the web (and the capabilities of the phone), Telstra's data charges in Australia are ridiculously expensive - $30 per month for 70Mb + 25c/Mb after. Since I am covering the data charges, I think it is only fair to pay for what is used for my business.
Has anyone had any experience in handset modifications after delivery?
Thanks,
Mark.

This maybe what your looking for :-
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/kioskengine/?en
regards
Rob

HTC 8525.

Hi,
I just recently purchased an HTC 8525 on the AT&T network. Is it worth investing in an unlimited data plan? Is there ways around this? I would like to be able to access the internet/email when I do not have access to WiFi. Any suggestions? Also what do you guys recommend be done to a stock 8525, in terms of applications, system structure, etc. The phone does have WM6 installed.

Howdy Newbie from my birth-state,
First, if you havent already done so, read through the entire Hermes Wiki. That will answer many of your questions. The unlimited data plan is KEY if you want to use, for ex., XM radio/MobiTV or receive GPS maps, etc.=basically anything that is "streaming". Just keep reading everything here-"seek and ye shall find". Welcome

MaicohSasha said:
Howdy Newbie from my birth-state,
First, if you havent already done so, read through the entire Hermes Wiki. That will answer many of your questions. The unlimited data plan is KEY if you want to use, for ex., XM radio/MobiTV or receive GPS maps, etc.=basically anything that is "streaming". Just keep reading everything here-"seek and ye shall find". Welcome
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Ditto. Did gain alot of knowledge through research! Now I have a leet phone w/ lots mods and hacks!

hi...see the well done new member intro (by stevebonning) here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=325748

scasper76 said:
Hi,
I just recently purchased an HTC 8525 on the AT&T network. Is it worth investing in an unlimited data plan? Is there ways around this? I would like to be able to access the internet/email when I do not have access to WiFi. Any suggestions?
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As an employee, I'll be the first to tell you: Spend the $40-50/mo and get one of the unlimited plans. I should've taken a picture of a customer I had to tell had over $200 in data charges alone today. You've got 2 choices: $39.99 for unl. data and 1500 txts, or $49.99 for unl. everything. You've got the device, so spend the money to use it to its fullest.

BombaMyte said:
As an employee, I'll be the first to tell you: Spend the $40-50/mo and get one of the unlimited plans. I should've taken a picture of a customer I had to tell had over $200 in data charges alone today. You've got 2 choices: $39.99 for unl. data and 1500 txts, or $49.99 for unl. everything. You've got the device, so spend the money to use it to its fullest.
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I agree with the above poster. Get the unl data. You will find yourself doing things on your phone when your bored, ie net surfing and such. Plus I like to use internet sharing on my laptop when i am not home.

I got the MediaMax 200 plan for $19.99/mo. Unlimited internet, great price. Don't know if it's still available, but I signed up for it online. Also look at the threads-there's a thread about this program and how to get it.
Best wishes,
Steve Bonning

stevebonning said:
I got the MediaMax 200 plan for $19.99/mo. Unlimited internet, great price. Don't know if it's still available, but I signed up for it online. Also look at the threads-there's a thread about this program and how to get it.
Best wishes,
Steve Bonning
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Steve,
Which program?

Not a program, it's a data plan for the phone. Was available via Cingular/AT&T's online site and through their Business Portal (via employees who have deals with them). Don't know if it's still around, but probably worth searching for.
Steve

Here's the details from Cingular.com web site for MediaMax 200 @ $19.99. Effectively is unlimited internet access and 200 messages.
MEdia Max 200 BundleGet ready to open up the power of your phone! Enjoy unlimited high quality video and entertainment in the palm of your hand. Get UNLIMITED access to Cellular Video, MEdiaTM Net and the freedom to message any way to any one with 200 Messages. Included in your MEdia Max 200 bundle:
UNLIMITED Cellular Video
Cellular Video brings you video clips of your favorite TV shows, music videos, movie trailers, comedians and sports highlights. Play high-quality news, sports, weather, and entertainment video clips on demand on your 3G phone. Plus, you can add exclusive video programming from HBO MobileSM and HBO Family MobileSM.
UNLIMITED MEdia Net
With MEdia Net, you can browse the mobile web, check your Email, get your sports scores, movie times, weather and news right on your mobile phone. Plus, you can access the latest ringtones, games, graphics and AT&T Mobile Music.
200 Messages (5¢/additional messages)
You have the freedom to message any way to any one - text, picture, video and IM - without worrying what each message costs. That means every message counts the same. You can send and receive ANY combination of messages. Want to send all picture messages? No problem. All IMs? Go ahead and chat away - send and receive messages for less than pennies per day!
International messages not included. Charges for international messages sent from the U.S. are 25¢ for Text Messages and 50¢ for Picture/Video Messages. Standard rates apply to all incoming messages when in the U.S. Additional charges for premium messages and content apply. Messages over 300 KBs billed an additional 50¢/message. Where available; see att.com/cv for availability. For full details on Messaging or MEdia Net, see the AT&T MEdia brochure, att.com/mediaterms. Pay-Per-Use Charges: Text/Instant Messaging 15¢/message; Picture/Video Messages 25¢/message; MEdia Net Browsing 1¢/KB. MEdia Net and MEdia Bundles are not available on PDAs/Pocket PCs, RIM® devices or LaptopConnect cards. If your usage of the Services (including unlimited data plans) on other carriers' wireless networks ("offnet usage") during any two consecutive months exceeds your offnet usage allowance, AT&T may at its option terminate your wireless service or access to data Services, deny your continued use of other carriers' coverage, or change your plan to one imposing usage charges for offnet usage. Your offnet usage allowance is equal to the lesser of 6 megabytes or 20% of the kilobytes included with your plan and for messaging plans the lesser of 3000 messages or 50% of the messages included with your plan. AT&T will provide notice that it intends to take any of the above actions and you may terminate your agreement.
Steve

From newbie to another, do not leave AT&T to another carrier other than Verizon otherwise you'll find that the streaming media does not stream so well anymore other than wifi. As far as ROMS I have never had a problem with Schaps ROMs. Holidays with ever read & make-up your own mind or build your own.

Ah, nice Steve. Thanks for the info!

Better yet; cancel the AT&T, send back the phone. Buy a hermes off craigslist or ebay.
Activate a new account with t-mobile. Sell the phone you get from them on CL or ebay, or keep as a backup.
Unlock the hermes with the free unlocker.
Use with unlimited cheap $5.99 t-zones (just put the proxy server settings in the hermes to make it work).
Basically if you want the fastest and you can afford it, stay with AT&T. If you want the cheapest, the tzones can't be beat. It's kind of pokey, about dialup speed. But it works for me for:
Web surfing (traffic cam, cl, ebay)
Exchange Push email!
popmail
webmail

[Q] T-mobile Tethering fee

With the announcement that T-mobile will start charging $15 per month for tethering this month, does anyone know how this affects the HD2? I have installed the wifi tethering app that was in the European ROM and it works fine, but I was curious how T-mobile is going to detect/impose the tethering fee. Does anyone have any info on this?

I do not know of any technology that can detect a tether other than offiical carrier tether application. I doubt they could detect it because you are using a 3rd party app, so all cumulative data usage would be viewed as if it was just normal browsing/download etc. EDIT* : Normal browsing/downloading on the phones browser that is...just to clarify.

From what I understand, the tethering package is going to be just for people that tether, IE, if your device isn't tethered, then you won't be able to use data...only if it is psyically tethered to a PC will you be able to actually access data.

The HD2 should not be affected by this as it had tethering before this plan came in and it is intergrated into the OS. Tmobile typically grandfathers users in so since we all signed up for this data plan before this change came about, we should not have any issues.

m4a1a2 said:
I do not know of any technology that can detect a tether other than offiical carrier tether application. I doubt they could detect it because you are using a 3rd party app, so all cumulative data usage would be viewed as if it was just normal browsing/download etc.
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They can easily detect that you are tethering because of where the data is coming from.
When you use your phone's browser, most sites default to the mobile version because your phone is reporting what it is and what browser you are running. (although with IE for example you can tell it to preset desktop pages).
When you tether, you get the desktop versions of the site because your browswer is reporting a desktop OS and browswer and is presented with the proper page.
Just something to think about........

anhyeuemmaimai said:
They can easily detect that you are tethering because of where the data is coming from.
When you use your phone's browser, most sites default to the mobile version because your phone is reporting what it is and what browser you are running. (although with IE for example you can tell it to preset desktop pages).
When you tether, you get the desktop versions of the site because your browswer is reporting a desktop OS and browswer and is presented with the proper page.
Just something to think about........
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For t-mobile to sniff your packets to detect that is likely against the law and there's nothing stopping you from editing the user agent string in your browser to make it look like a mobile browser
Its one thing for a customer to break TOS by tethering, at most you are breaking civil contract law, all TMO could do is terminate your contract or maybe sue you in civil court for breech of contract, they likely would not go that route.
However for them to start sniffing customers packets would be breaking CRIMINAL law
There is also nothing to stop a mobile browser from reporting itself as a desktop browser by user agent string to make a site load a "desktop experience" In no way is editing your user agent string against any kind of law!
The user agent string is really about the only way tmobile could detect tethering other than having a rigged tethering app, like it sounds like the android platform has. There is no kind of special flag set on TCP/IP packets that signify that they came from the phone or a tethered laptop, tablet, etc!

it is not against the law for t-mobile to packet sniff what goes on on their network. when you sign up for service, you agree to their terms........

I could be way off but I don't think there plan is to charge for just using tethering. The data cap on the current plans are 5gbs and after that you are slowed to edge speeds. I think with the tethering plan it is for a much higher if not unlimited data cap.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

I can confirm the tethering restriction is in place for me constantly now.
I have a hd2, tmobile usa, custom rom, using usb w/the Internet Sharing app.
i was just kicked off tethering tonight and all my desktop browser requests went to the tmobile 'you must buy a tether plan' page.
I disconnected, reconnected, same thing. I am nowhere near even 1GB in data usage this month.
Only way that's fixed it so far is changing my t-mobile data connection to use internet2.voicestream.com instead of epc.tmobile.com
-Tony

t-mobile tethering
It seems they are regulating the user agents allowed to access their network.
One can change the user agent in Firefox with the plugin "user agent switcher"
Changing to a mobile browser assures access, but limits the browsing experience on some pages.
Lets see how long it takes them to ban this nice hybird useragent.
" Mozilla/5.0 (SCH-F859/F859DG12;U;NUCLEUS/2.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Firefox/3.6.9 "

subtle1 said:
It seems they are regulating the user agents allowed to access their network.
One can change the user agent in Firefox with the plugin "user agent switcher"
Changing to a mobile browser assures access, but limits the browsing experience on some pages.
Lets see how long it takes them to ban this nice hybird useragent.
" Mozilla/5.0 (SCH-F859/F859DG12;U;NUCLEUS/2.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Firefox/3.6.9 "
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+1 Good job, I'm impressed! BTW, here's a rock solid UA from Opera Mobile 10, but you get mobile pages where applicable.
"Opera/9.80 (Windows Mobile; WCE; Opera Mobi/WMD-50433; U; en) Presto/2.4.13 Version/10.00"

ncohafmuta said:
I can confirm the tethering restriction is in place for me constantly now.
I have a hd2, tmobile usa, custom rom, using usb w/the Internet Sharing app.
i was just kicked off tethering tonight and all my desktop browser requests went to the tmobile 'you must buy a tether plan' page.
I disconnected, reconnected, same thing. I am nowhere near even 1GB in data usage this month.
Only way that's fixed it so far is changing my t-mobile data connection to use internet2.voicestream.com instead of epc.tmobile.com
-Tony
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have you tried a tether app off the marketplace such as WMVrouter? The internet sharing app included with the software was offiically included.

Thanks subtle1 and joeray! Worked for my wife's on Nokia Nuron- Is our only internet connection so you saved our bacon... Did not get cut off from my HD2 yet...

looks bad.. will keep following this thread

m4a1a2 said:
have you tried a tether app off the marketplace such as WMVrouter? The internet sharing app included with the software was offiically included.
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nope. haven't been able to get any wifi router stuff to work in the last couple rom revisions.
remember, i'm on custom Energy rom, not tmobile official.
-Tony

Tom Codon wifi router cab still works perfectly for me. No messages from T Mobile. Just tried it.

crisisinthecity said:
Tom Codon wifi router cab still works perfectly for me. No messages from T Mobile. Just tried it.
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Works for me, too, and I'm using a custom Rom.

Same here...been tethering for the last 20 minutes no problem. WiFi and USB both work.

Mine works..built in internet sharing app, energy rom.

Tom Codon wifi router cab is the "Ticket"
Tom Codon wifi router cab seems to be the working app, and not the HTC Wifi Router App for WinMo. They may have block used of HTC's app. What do you guys think?

Should Carriers have the right to use CarrierIQ?

This thread is to discuss CarrierIQ with its current capabilities. It is not to debate the performance benefits that may or may not occur when it is removed.
We all know that CarrierIQ currently does not log any information, but logging and transmission can be activated at any time without user notification.
The objective of this thread is to discuss user privacy and safety. We all agree that a carrier has the right to gather reasonable metrics about their network. The question at hand is does a carrier have the right to use a software package as potentially invasive as CarrierIQ.
Please do not engage in flaming or a thread war. Respect eachothers opinions and share your own.
EDIT: 6/5/2011 1:18PM EASTERN TIME
For disclosure purposes I fully admit I am NOT a developer. I do not create ROM's nor have I ever removed CIQ from a ROM. The information I have posted has been provided to me by 3rd party sources. Unfortunately I can not release their documentation at this time. I ask that each member in this discussion to please provide any information they feel comfortable providing on CIQ that either supports or disputes the capabilities I have posted. Also, please provide any links to other sources you may wish to.
I am asking this because I do not wish this thread to become an argument over theory and supposition of what CIQ is or isn't capable of.
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One of my purposes of this thread is to bring to light the full potential of CIQ. There are many very intelligent, very experienced developers on XDA and I am hoping they will take the time to provide information on what they have learned about CIQ. It was also created to gauge the Samsung Epic users feelings on just how invasive CIQ is as implemented in the Epic.
As for contacting representatives on a state and federal level as well my state attorney's office, I have. I urge anyone who is concerned about CIQ to do the same.
United States House of Representatives
United States Senators of the 112th Congress
Also contact directly the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Privacy who are investigating Apple & Google's invasion of consumer privacy.
I will be the first to admit that I am not a great orator or writer. I would like to ask the forum members who feel that CIQ as it is implemented is too invasive and should be removed. Maybe a paralegal?? I believe all carriers have the right to protect their network, gather metrics and improve services for their customer base. There are many ways for a carrier to do this but CIQ as it is implemented in Android phones is far too invasive.
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yes they do. just like you have the right to not buy a cellphone from them.

they have the /right/ to do whatever you sign a contract allowing them to do...

chris41g said:
they have the /right/ to do whatever you sign a contract allowing them to do...
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That include a no contract phone? I recall only signing for my unlimited everything plan. And ovbiously the terms of use and blabla.
Sent from my Epix 4G using XDA

Shoulon said:
That include a no contract phone? I recall only signing for my unlimited everything plan. And ovbiously the terms of use and blabla.
Sent from my Epix 4G using XDA
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willing to bet its in the terms of use about analysis of usage patterns and so on and so forth

chris41g said:
they have the /right/ to do whatever you sign a contract allowing them to do...
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I'm sorry, I must of missed where in the contract that it states they can have access to your contacts list, calendar information, user names and passwords of webpages you visit, the content of your text messages, and much much more.
Can you provide a link to that clause in the contract?

Shoulon said:
That include a no contract phone? I recall only signing for my unlimited everything plan. And ovbiously the terms of use and blabla.
Sent from my Epix 4G using XDA
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it would be in the terms and conditions of service.

austin420 said:
yes they do. just like you have the right to not buy a cellphone from them.
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They did not disclose that this spyware was on the phone when I signed a 2 year contract. The capabilities of this software are a blatant violation of privacy. Don't think just because the law has not caught up with technology that it is not.

When you ship something overseas, customs has the right to examine that shipment. Is that a violation of privacy? I don't remember signing an agreement etc etc.
People grossly misunderstand rights, and there are better battles to be fighting than whether a machine is processing and dumping your sexts somewhere. But I guess life must be pretty easy and sweet if this battlefield is your top priority.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

remember if you take the phone off their network, they cant track anything.. they have the right to do as they see fit as long as you are on their network.... regardless, dont like it, dont use the network.

josidhe said:
When you ship something overseas, customs has the right to examine that shipment. Is that a violation of privacy? I don't remember signing an agreement etc etc.
People grossly misunderstand rights, and there are better battles to be fighting than whether a machine is processing and dumping your sexts somewhere. But I guess life must be pretty easy and sweet if this battlefield is your top priority.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
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Custom's is a government agency and the governments of each country had to create laws to specifically allow customs agents to inspect packages. Wireless carriers are NOT governments.
I believe carriers HAVE THE RIGHT to collect metrics to improve and protect their networks. CarrierIQ has that ability. BUT, CarrierIQ as implemented in Sprint's Android phones also has the ability to monitor, read and transmit your contact list, your calendar, your pictures with geo-tagging information embedded (remember, the FROYO release took away your ability to disable geo-tagging photo's), it keylogs so it has the ability to transmit the page you visited along with your user name and password. These are NOT things that a carrier has a right to be able to know. Whether CarrierIQ is currently logging this information or not, NO carrier has the right to install software on a phone that with a simple command has the ability to be that invasive.

http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?ECID=vanity:termsandconditions
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josidhe said:
When you ship something overseas, customs has the right to examine that shipment. Is that a violation of privacy? I don't remember signing an agreement etc etc.
People grossly misunderstand rights, and there are better battles to be fighting than whether a machine is processing and dumping your sexts somewhere. But I guess life must be pretty easy and sweet if this battlefield is your top priority.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk
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YES but when your shipping its for security make sure your not transporting illegal merchandise its completely different

chris41g said:
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?ECID=vanity:termsandconditions
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We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services. Some of these actions may interrupt or prevent legitimate communications and usage - for example, message filtering/blocking software to prevent SPAM or viruses, limiting throughput, limiting access to certain websites, applications or other Data Content, prohibitions on unintended uses (for example, use as a dedicated line, or use as a monitoring service), etc. For additional information on what we do to protect our customers, network, Services and equipment, see our Acceptable Use Policy and Visitor Agreement at our website.
Your Privacy
Our Privacy Policy is available on our website. To review the policy, visit www.sprint.com/legal/privacy.html. This policy may change from time to time, so review it with regularity and care.
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Information that we automatically collect. We automatically receive certain types of information whenever you use our Services. We may collect information about your device, your computer, and online activities. For example, we collect your device's and computer's IP address, the date and time of your access and the type of browser you use. We also collect information about your device's and computer's operating system, your location, and the Web site from which you came and then went and Web sites you visit on your device. We may link information we automatically collect with personal information, such as information you give us at registration or check out.
Information we collect when we provide you with Services includes when your wireless device is turned on, how your device is functioning, device signal strength, where it is located, what device you are using, what you have purchased with your device, how you are using it, and what sites you visit.
We may use systems or tools to follow your use of our Services, including using cookies, web beacons and other tracking mechanisms. For example, we allow collection by analytic service provider(s) of site click-stream and cookie data to help us track aggregate and individual use of our Services. We sometimes use cookies to enable features on our sites, like the ability to save your shopping cart or set preferences. Advertisers and advertising networks that serve ads on our sites may also use their own mechanisms, like cookies. These third party cookies are governed by the privacy policies of the entities placing the ads and are not subject to this Policy.
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Anonymize or aggregate personal information for various purposes like market analysis or traffic flow analysis and reporting.
Customize or personalize your experience with our Services.
Customize or personalize advertising and communications to bring you information about products and services of Sprint Nextel or others that may interest you, including co-branded offers. For example, we may customize the ads you see when you are using our Internet-enabled devices. If we use information about your online activities to deliver advertising or communications tailored to your interests, we may share that information with third parties who select tailored advertising.
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Quote by SYMS "An educated consumer is our best customer"

chris41g said:
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?ECID=vanity:termsandconditions
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We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services. Some of these actions may interrupt or prevent legitimate communications and usage - for example, message filtering/blocking software to prevent SPAM or viruses, limiting throughput, limiting access to certain websites, applications or other Data Content, prohibitions on unintended uses (for example, use as a dedicated line, or use as a monitoring service), etc. For additional information on what we do to protect our customers, network, Services and equipment, see our Acceptable Use Policy and Visitor Agreement at our website.
Your Privacy
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Information that we automatically collect. We automatically receive certain types of information whenever you use our Services. We may collect information about your device, your computer, and online activities. For example, we collect your device's and computer's IP address, the date and time of your access and the type of browser you use. We also collect information about your device's and computer's operating system, your location, and the Web site from which you came and then went and Web sites you visit on your device. We may link information we automatically collect with personal information, such as information you give us at registration or check out.
Information we collect when we provide you with Services includes when your wireless device is turned on, how your device is functioning, device signal strength, where it is located, what device you are using, what you have purchased with your device, how you are using it, and what sites you visit.
We may use systems or tools to follow your use of our Services, including using cookies, web beacons and other tracking mechanisms. For example, we allow collection by analytic service provider(s) of site click-stream and cookie data to help us track aggregate and individual use of our Services. We sometimes use cookies to enable features on our sites, like the ability to save your shopping cart or set preferences. Advertisers and advertising networks that serve ads on our sites may also use their own mechanisms, like cookies. These third party cookies are governed by the privacy policies of the entities placing the ads and are not subject to this Policy.
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We use your personal information for a variety of purposes, including providing you with Services. We use your personal information to do things like:
Process your orders.
Protect our and our customers' rights and property.
Respond to legal process and emergencies.
Develop or inform you of new products and services.
Anonymize or aggregate personal information for various purposes like market analysis or traffic flow analysis and reporting.
Customize or personalize your experience with our Services.
Customize or personalize advertising and communications to bring you information about products and services of Sprint Nextel or others that may interest you, including co-branded offers. For example, we may customize the ads you see when you are using our Internet-enabled devices. If we use information about your online activities to deliver advertising or communications tailored to your interests, we may share that information with third parties who select tailored advertising.
Monitor, evaluate or improve our Services, systems, or networks.
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I have thoroughly read the above information and the context they are used in. No where, absolutely no where does the information they refer to consist of the information that CarrierIQ has access to.
CarrierIQ has that ability. BUT, CarrierIQ as implemented in Sprint's Android phones also has the ability to monitor, read and transmit your contact list, your calendar, your pictures with geo-tagging information embedded (remember, the FROYO release took away your ability to disable geo-tagging photo's), it keylogs so it has the ability to transmit the page you visited along with your user name and password
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Sprint is very specific about the types of personal information they may collect.
Yes, they are allowed to know the websites you go to.
No, they are not allowed to know your username and password.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know how ofter you text, the size of your texts and if it is sent to someone in or out of Sprint's network.
No, they are not allowed to know the exact content of that text message.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know the how many calls you make, how often you make calls and for how long.
No, they are not allowed to know what information in your contacts list is associated with that number.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know you take pictures with your phone.
No, they are not allowed to know where you take those pictures and have access to those pictures.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know what is in your calendar.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know what you do with your phone when off their network, such as when using WiFi.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know EVERYTHING you type on your hardware or software keyboard when creating word processing documents.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
The capabilities of CarrierIQ as implemented on Sprint's Android phones goes far beyond the rights of a carrier to protect, patrol and improve its network. The capabilities of CarrierIQ goes far beyond reasonable interpretation of the legal agreement. CarrierIQ as it is implemented on Android phones is a direct violation of personal privacy.
Why am I stirring up this storm? It is not because my life is so simple, free and easy that this is my top priority. It is because history has taught us that this is just the start. If we as customers do not voice our dissatisfaction now it will only get worse, more invasive.

chris41g said:
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?ECID=vanity:termsandconditions
Anonymize or aggregate personal information for various purposes like market analysis or traffic flow analysis and reporting.
Customize or personalize your experience with our Services.
Customize or personalize advertising and communications to bring you information about products and services of Sprint Nextel or others that may interest you, including co-branded offers. For example, we may customize the ads you see when you are using our Internet-enabled devices. If we use information about your online activities to deliver advertising or communications tailored to your interests, we may share that information with third parties who select tailored advertising.
Monitor, evaluate or improve our Services, systems, or networks.
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here it is.

"We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services."
that pretty much covers anything that isn't illegal.
they have the right to charge for tethering and they have the right to use Carrier IQ.
i have the right to tether for free and disable Carrier IQ
they have the right to terminate my contract if they find out.

i think you have a gross misinterpretation of /allowed/... who says? why are they not allowed to do these things? first off, if you read the full thing like you said you did, there is no inclusive list of what they can or cannot, do or do not monitor or analyse. further more, you sound like you either know more than a lot of people about carrieriq or you are talking out of your ass on its capabilities....

faceless said:
"We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services."
that pretty much covers anything that isn't illegal.
they have the right to charge for tethering and they have the right to use Carrier IQ.
i have the right to tether for free and disable Carrier IQ
they have the right to terminate my contract if they find out.
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1. Lets keep this thread on topic and keep the tethering debate out of it.
2. "We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services."
--- Does not give them the right to deeply invade ones privacy, expose them to the possibility of identity theft or create an environment that may endanger the customer or his/her family. The quoted portion gives them the right to protect their network and gather private information bound by what is legally considered "within reason". The following are not "within reason" in the eyes of the judicial system.
Yes, they are allowed to know the websites you go to.
No, they are not allowed to know your username and password.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know how ofter you text, the size of your texts and if it is sent to someone in or out of Sprint's network.
No, they are not allowed to know the exact content of that text message.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know the how many calls you make, how often you make calls and for how long.
No, they are not allowed to know what information in your contacts list is associated with that number.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know you take pictures with your phone.
No, they are not allowed to know where you take those pictures and have access to those pictures.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know what is in your calendar.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know what you do with your phone when off their network, such as when using WiFi.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know EVERYTHING you type on your hardware or software keyboard when creating word processing documents.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
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first, i would like you to show something backing that they are not allowed to do what you claim they can... then... show something supporting they can even do that that with CIQ? otherwise you are wasting your breath...

[Q] So... I have a question for all the networking experts.

There is a company in my country called Movistar. They currently have this prepaid plan, which costs only the equivalent of $15 per month... contract free. It includes:
500 minutes to any company.
100 SMS to any company.
Unlimited minutes to any Movistar phone.
Unlimited SMS to any Movistar phone.
Unlimited access to these apps: Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and Email.
250MB of data.
Now... As you can see, the plan is pretty good for the price, except the lame amount of data.
But... The Facebook, Twitter, WhatsApp and Email are unlimited, without interruptions.
Is there a way to use that as my advantage and redirect the browser or something to use the data of those apps so I won't be limited to just 250MB? Is there a way to use a browser inside Facebook somehow?
Thanks.

No.

I'm pretty sure their DNS servers log the IP addresses for those sites and allow unthrottled access to those IPs. They all have more than one IP address per site, and they change so first you'd have to find that out. Then you have to find a way to first direct your traffic to facebooks and the other sites then route it to the site you really want to goto, then rout it back to you all through a VPN most likely so your site request actually comes back to you instead of getting denied.. In short, it would be complicated and illegal as hell and I don't think you will find an answer here without the thread getting locked. I don't think its possible even with the use of IP spoofing. These are all just somewhat educated guesses.

Do you guys think it would help if I root my phone and use a public DNS, like Google DNS or OpenDNS?

Funny thing is, that after I finish the 250MB, I still have access to Google and I can search and everything, but when I try to open a search result, it redirects to me to the website of my carrier (as it should happen).
But, with Chrome Beta, if I activate the bandwidth reduction function, I can get unlimited browsing.

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Funny thing is, that after I finish the 250MB, I still have access to Google and I can search and everything, but when I try to open a search result, it redirects to me to the website of my carrier (as it should happen).
But, with Chrome Beta, if I activate the bandwidth reduction function, I can get unlimited browsing.
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But I'm betting that you will be billed for it. Regardless of being on a prepaid plan.
For example you have a 250MB cap. You can use up to that for the price you pay...however they will just charge you per MB/GB you use above your allotted plan amount.
So next month when you go to pay your $15...they might say you went over last month on your data and this month you're paying $ XX.
In essence they want you to go over and you'll pay dearly for it.
I have a friend who goes over his data amount all the time...last month was $125 in over usage on data.
I'd call them and find out what their protocol is on over usage before you get dinged.
Better to be proactive than reactive :good: