This thread is to discuss CarrierIQ with its current capabilities. It is not to debate the performance benefits that may or may not occur when it is removed.
We all know that CarrierIQ currently does not log any information, but logging and transmission can be activated at any time without user notification.
The objective of this thread is to discuss user privacy and safety. We all agree that a carrier has the right to gather reasonable metrics about their network. The question at hand is does a carrier have the right to use a software package as potentially invasive as CarrierIQ.
Please do not engage in flaming or a thread war. Respect eachothers opinions and share your own.
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For disclosure purposes I fully admit I am NOT a developer. I do not create ROM's nor have I ever removed CIQ from a ROM. The information I have posted has been provided to me by 3rd party sources. Unfortunately I can not release their documentation at this time. I ask that each member in this discussion to please provide any information they feel comfortable providing on CIQ that either supports or disputes the capabilities I have posted. Also, please provide any links to other sources you may wish to.
I am asking this because I do not wish this thread to become an argument over theory and supposition of what CIQ is or isn't capable of.
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One of my purposes of this thread is to bring to light the full potential of CIQ. There are many very intelligent, very experienced developers on XDA and I am hoping they will take the time to provide information on what they have learned about CIQ. It was also created to gauge the Samsung Epic users feelings on just how invasive CIQ is as implemented in the Epic.
As for contacting representatives on a state and federal level as well my state attorney's office, I have. I urge anyone who is concerned about CIQ to do the same.
United States House of Representatives
United States Senators of the 112th Congress
Also contact directly the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Privacy who are investigating Apple & Google's invasion of consumer privacy.
I will be the first to admit that I am not a great orator or writer. I would like to ask the forum members who feel that CIQ as it is implemented is too invasive and should be removed. Maybe a paralegal?? I believe all carriers have the right to protect their network, gather metrics and improve services for their customer base. There are many ways for a carrier to do this but CIQ as it is implemented in Android phones is far too invasive.
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yes they do. just like you have the right to not buy a cellphone from them.
they have the /right/ to do whatever you sign a contract allowing them to do...
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they have the /right/ to do whatever you sign a contract allowing them to do...
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That include a no contract phone? I recall only signing for my unlimited everything plan. And ovbiously the terms of use and blabla.
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That include a no contract phone? I recall only signing for my unlimited everything plan. And ovbiously the terms of use and blabla.
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willing to bet its in the terms of use about analysis of usage patterns and so on and so forth
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they have the /right/ to do whatever you sign a contract allowing them to do...
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I'm sorry, I must of missed where in the contract that it states they can have access to your contacts list, calendar information, user names and passwords of webpages you visit, the content of your text messages, and much much more.
Can you provide a link to that clause in the contract?
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That include a no contract phone? I recall only signing for my unlimited everything plan. And ovbiously the terms of use and blabla.
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it would be in the terms and conditions of service.
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yes they do. just like you have the right to not buy a cellphone from them.
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They did not disclose that this spyware was on the phone when I signed a 2 year contract. The capabilities of this software are a blatant violation of privacy. Don't think just because the law has not caught up with technology that it is not.
When you ship something overseas, customs has the right to examine that shipment. Is that a violation of privacy? I don't remember signing an agreement etc etc.
People grossly misunderstand rights, and there are better battles to be fighting than whether a machine is processing and dumping your sexts somewhere. But I guess life must be pretty easy and sweet if this battlefield is your top priority.
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remember if you take the phone off their network, they cant track anything.. they have the right to do as they see fit as long as you are on their network.... regardless, dont like it, dont use the network.
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When you ship something overseas, customs has the right to examine that shipment. Is that a violation of privacy? I don't remember signing an agreement etc etc.
People grossly misunderstand rights, and there are better battles to be fighting than whether a machine is processing and dumping your sexts somewhere. But I guess life must be pretty easy and sweet if this battlefield is your top priority.
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Custom's is a government agency and the governments of each country had to create laws to specifically allow customs agents to inspect packages. Wireless carriers are NOT governments.
I believe carriers HAVE THE RIGHT to collect metrics to improve and protect their networks. CarrierIQ has that ability. BUT, CarrierIQ as implemented in Sprint's Android phones also has the ability to monitor, read and transmit your contact list, your calendar, your pictures with geo-tagging information embedded (remember, the FROYO release took away your ability to disable geo-tagging photo's), it keylogs so it has the ability to transmit the page you visited along with your user name and password. These are NOT things that a carrier has a right to be able to know. Whether CarrierIQ is currently logging this information or not, NO carrier has the right to install software on a phone that with a simple command has the ability to be that invasive.
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We may use systems or tools to follow your use of our Services, including using cookies, web beacons and other tracking mechanisms. For example, we allow collection by analytic service provider(s) of site click-stream and cookie data to help us track aggregate and individual use of our Services. We sometimes use cookies to enable features on our sites, like the ability to save your shopping cart or set preferences. Advertisers and advertising networks that serve ads on our sites may also use their own mechanisms, like cookies. These third party cookies are governed by the privacy policies of the entities placing the ads and are not subject to this Policy.
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When you ship something overseas, customs has the right to examine that shipment. Is that a violation of privacy? I don't remember signing an agreement etc etc.
People grossly misunderstand rights, and there are better battles to be fighting than whether a machine is processing and dumping your sexts somewhere. But I guess life must be pretty easy and sweet if this battlefield is your top priority.
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YES but when your shipping its for security make sure your not transporting illegal merchandise its completely different
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http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?ECID=vanity:termsandconditions
Protecting Our Network & Services
We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services. Some of these actions may interrupt or prevent legitimate communications and usage - for example, message filtering/blocking software to prevent SPAM or viruses, limiting throughput, limiting access to certain websites, applications or other Data Content, prohibitions on unintended uses (for example, use as a dedicated line, or use as a monitoring service), etc. For additional information on what we do to protect our customers, network, Services and equipment, see our Acceptable Use Policy and Visitor Agreement at our website.
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Information that we automatically collect. We automatically receive certain types of information whenever you use our Services. We may collect information about your device, your computer, and online activities. For example, we collect your device's and computer's IP address, the date and time of your access and the type of browser you use. We also collect information about your device's and computer's operating system, your location, and the Web site from which you came and then went and Web sites you visit on your device. We may link information we automatically collect with personal information, such as information you give us at registration or check out.
Information we collect when we provide you with Services includes when your wireless device is turned on, how your device is functioning, device signal strength, where it is located, what device you are using, what you have purchased with your device, how you are using it, and what sites you visit.
We may use systems or tools to follow your use of our Services, including using cookies, web beacons and other tracking mechanisms. For example, we allow collection by analytic service provider(s) of site click-stream and cookie data to help us track aggregate and individual use of our Services. We sometimes use cookies to enable features on our sites, like the ability to save your shopping cart or set preferences. Advertisers and advertising networks that serve ads on our sites may also use their own mechanisms, like cookies. These third party cookies are governed by the privacy policies of the entities placing the ads and are not subject to this Policy.
USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION
We use your personal information for a variety of purposes, including providing you with Services. We use your personal information to do things like:
Process your orders.
Protect our and our customers' rights and property.
Respond to legal process and emergencies.
Develop or inform you of new products and services.
Anonymize or aggregate personal information for various purposes like market analysis or traffic flow analysis and reporting.
Customize or personalize your experience with our Services.
Customize or personalize advertising and communications to bring you information about products and services of Sprint Nextel or others that may interest you, including co-branded offers. For example, we may customize the ads you see when you are using our Internet-enabled devices. If we use information about your online activities to deliver advertising or communications tailored to your interests, we may share that information with third parties who select tailored advertising.
Monitor, evaluate or improve our Services, systems, or networks.
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Quote by SYMS "An educated consumer is our best customer"
chris41g said:
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?ECID=vanity:termsandconditions
Protecting Our Network & Services
We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services. Some of these actions may interrupt or prevent legitimate communications and usage - for example, message filtering/blocking software to prevent SPAM or viruses, limiting throughput, limiting access to certain websites, applications or other Data Content, prohibitions on unintended uses (for example, use as a dedicated line, or use as a monitoring service), etc. For additional information on what we do to protect our customers, network, Services and equipment, see our Acceptable Use Policy and Visitor Agreement at our website.
Your Privacy
Our Privacy Policy is available on our website. To review the policy, visit www.sprint.com/legal/privacy.html. This policy may change from time to time, so review it with regularity and care.
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Information that we automatically collect. We automatically receive certain types of information whenever you use our Services. We may collect information about your device, your computer, and online activities. For example, we collect your device's and computer's IP address, the date and time of your access and the type of browser you use. We also collect information about your device's and computer's operating system, your location, and the Web site from which you came and then went and Web sites you visit on your device. We may link information we automatically collect with personal information, such as information you give us at registration or check out.
Information we collect when we provide you with Services includes when your wireless device is turned on, how your device is functioning, device signal strength, where it is located, what device you are using, what you have purchased with your device, how you are using it, and what sites you visit.
We may use systems or tools to follow your use of our Services, including using cookies, web beacons and other tracking mechanisms. For example, we allow collection by analytic service provider(s) of site click-stream and cookie data to help us track aggregate and individual use of our Services. We sometimes use cookies to enable features on our sites, like the ability to save your shopping cart or set preferences. Advertisers and advertising networks that serve ads on our sites may also use their own mechanisms, like cookies. These third party cookies are governed by the privacy policies of the entities placing the ads and are not subject to this Policy.
USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION
We use your personal information for a variety of purposes, including providing you with Services. We use your personal information to do things like:
Process your orders.
Protect our and our customers' rights and property.
Respond to legal process and emergencies.
Develop or inform you of new products and services.
Anonymize or aggregate personal information for various purposes like market analysis or traffic flow analysis and reporting.
Customize or personalize your experience with our Services.
Customize or personalize advertising and communications to bring you information about products and services of Sprint Nextel or others that may interest you, including co-branded offers. For example, we may customize the ads you see when you are using our Internet-enabled devices. If we use information about your online activities to deliver advertising or communications tailored to your interests, we may share that information with third parties who select tailored advertising.
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I have thoroughly read the above information and the context they are used in. No where, absolutely no where does the information they refer to consist of the information that CarrierIQ has access to.
CarrierIQ has that ability. BUT, CarrierIQ as implemented in Sprint's Android phones also has the ability to monitor, read and transmit your contact list, your calendar, your pictures with geo-tagging information embedded (remember, the FROYO release took away your ability to disable geo-tagging photo's), it keylogs so it has the ability to transmit the page you visited along with your user name and password
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Sprint is very specific about the types of personal information they may collect.
Yes, they are allowed to know the websites you go to.
No, they are not allowed to know your username and password.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know how ofter you text, the size of your texts and if it is sent to someone in or out of Sprint's network.
No, they are not allowed to know the exact content of that text message.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know the how many calls you make, how often you make calls and for how long.
No, they are not allowed to know what information in your contacts list is associated with that number.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know you take pictures with your phone.
No, they are not allowed to know where you take those pictures and have access to those pictures.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know what is in your calendar.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know what you do with your phone when off their network, such as when using WiFi.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know EVERYTHING you type on your hardware or software keyboard when creating word processing documents.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
The capabilities of CarrierIQ as implemented on Sprint's Android phones goes far beyond the rights of a carrier to protect, patrol and improve its network. The capabilities of CarrierIQ goes far beyond reasonable interpretation of the legal agreement. CarrierIQ as it is implemented on Android phones is a direct violation of personal privacy.
Why am I stirring up this storm? It is not because my life is so simple, free and easy that this is my top priority. It is because history has taught us that this is just the start. If we as customers do not voice our dissatisfaction now it will only get worse, more invasive.
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http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?ECID=vanity:termsandconditions
Anonymize or aggregate personal information for various purposes like market analysis or traffic flow analysis and reporting.
Customize or personalize your experience with our Services.
Customize or personalize advertising and communications to bring you information about products and services of Sprint Nextel or others that may interest you, including co-branded offers. For example, we may customize the ads you see when you are using our Internet-enabled devices. If we use information about your online activities to deliver advertising or communications tailored to your interests, we may share that information with third parties who select tailored advertising.
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here it is.
"We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services."
that pretty much covers anything that isn't illegal.
they have the right to charge for tethering and they have the right to use Carrier IQ.
i have the right to tether for free and disable Carrier IQ
they have the right to terminate my contract if they find out.
i think you have a gross misinterpretation of /allowed/... who says? why are they not allowed to do these things? first off, if you read the full thing like you said you did, there is no inclusive list of what they can or cannot, do or do not monitor or analyse. further more, you sound like you either know more than a lot of people about carrieriq or you are talking out of your ass on its capabilities....
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"We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services."
that pretty much covers anything that isn't illegal.
they have the right to charge for tethering and they have the right to use Carrier IQ.
i have the right to tether for free and disable Carrier IQ
they have the right to terminate my contract if they find out.
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1. Lets keep this thread on topic and keep the tethering debate out of it.
2. "We can take any action to: (1) protect our network, our rights and interests, or the rights of others; or (2) optimize or improve the overall use of our network and Services."
--- Does not give them the right to deeply invade ones privacy, expose them to the possibility of identity theft or create an environment that may endanger the customer or his/her family. The quoted portion gives them the right to protect their network and gather private information bound by what is legally considered "within reason". The following are not "within reason" in the eyes of the judicial system.
Yes, they are allowed to know the websites you go to.
No, they are not allowed to know your username and password.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know how ofter you text, the size of your texts and if it is sent to someone in or out of Sprint's network.
No, they are not allowed to know the exact content of that text message.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know the how many calls you make, how often you make calls and for how long.
No, they are not allowed to know what information in your contacts list is associated with that number.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
Yes, they are allowed to know you take pictures with your phone.
No, they are not allowed to know where you take those pictures and have access to those pictures.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know what is in your calendar.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know what you do with your phone when off their network, such as when using WiFi.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
No, they are not allowed to know EVERYTHING you type on your hardware or software keyboard when creating word processing documents.
CarrierIQ gives them this ability as it is implemented in their Android phones.
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first, i would like you to show something backing that they are not allowed to do what you claim they can... then... show something supporting they can even do that that with CIQ? otherwise you are wasting your breath...
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Hello
The other day i surfed to google from my XDA exec.
mobile internet rocks!!
i was wondering how does google know that i surfed in from a pda, cause i think it sent me to
www.google.co.uk/pda
the web page probably detected your screen size and redirected you to a page that was more friendly to you PDA browser. i wish more sites would do this.
www.google.com/pda for us US residents.
LOL
Not the screen size but the type of your internet browser, in this case Pocket IE.
Correct--it's not the screen size.
Although a LOT of your information is sent over the wire, much more than most of us realize, your resolution information is unknown to most websites, unless you explicitly allow it to be given via some kind of an executable that transmits such information. An example would be an embedded ActiveX object in IE for Windows.
Back on topic, yes, your browser information is known, not only to Google, but to every other website you visit. Not only that, the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy) and where you went when you left it. There's a whole bunch of information deemed to be private that we would rather keep to ourselves (such as our surfing habits) that's known to any website that installs a cookie (a common thing nowadays) on your computer.
This is also how Google knows where you are. For example, when I log on, Google send me to the local Saudi page at http://www.google.com.sa/ It knows this information by doing a reverse lookup on your IP address, and comparing it against known databases of geographically assigned IPs. Since IP addresses are assigned and tied to geographical locations, it's easy enough to do, although it's still very disconcerting to see.
Be careful folks, even your searching habits are being tracked by Google. I have nothing to hide, so I don't care, but many folks do. Witness the recent Federal inquiry into the searching habits of the users of major search engines. Yahoo and MSN gave up that information quickly enough but Google is resisting. I don't think it will be able to hold out for very long though.
Imagine...now the fact that you searched for p0rn on the 'net is well known to anyone in the know. Scary, isn't it?
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thanks monakh
so google can detect both my mobile ip address (is there such a thing?) and my browser, correct?
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the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy)
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Correct, through the referrer...
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and where you went when you left it.
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Only if you click a link on the site itself, -and- it is handled via a special handler.
No information is sent to a website when you leave it through e.g. a bookmark in your browser, or by typing in a new URL.
Please correct me if I'm wrong
You are correct.
hey i mailed myself (google account) using my adsl modem and using the gprs/3g connection to check the header to see if i could spot an originating ip address
i found one common ip address
Received: by 10.xy.za.b with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:34:45 -0800 (PST)
i guess this is the google server, correct?
is there any way to prise the originating ip address from an email
That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.
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That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.
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Not entirely... I mean, you could - of course. But it also means that many sites will fail to send you PDA-specific content - which, with most plans/top-ups, means heavy costs.
Identifying PIE as IE6 is more used for stupid websites who check whether the browser is IE6 or above, regardless of whether that is actually required by the site.
There's three parts, the compatibility bit ('(Default) = Mozilla/4.0'), the browser string ('Version = MSIE 6.0') and the platform ('Platform = Windows NT 5.0'). If you leave the last bit intact ('Platform = Windows CE'), then you should still be able to get into stupid sites, while having PDA-friendly sites send you the PDA content.
oh i had not thought about the popups
i guess we wont get(suffer) popups with mobile ie5?
i just posted to this bulletin board to check my ip address
from the pc it looks like this 82.1a.bcd.efg
and fro my cda it looks like 193.abc.def.ghi
That's fine because presumably your mobile device and your home PC are on different networks so they sport different IPs.
IPs are a dead giveaway. In many cases, your position can be 'somewhat' and primitively triangulated to within 5 square miles of where you are. This may not be necessarily true for mobile networks, but those networks know where you are at all times anyway. In fact, there is now regulation in the US that mandates all handset makers to manufacture hardware with GPS functionality built-in. Between the two and a half dozen GPS satellites and your cellular network, you can run but you can't hide
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
Of course...
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This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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off-topic...
Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
Being able to find you at any time is an added perk but it needs court orders even if you have been reported and officially designated a "missing person". Getting such a court order can take many hours, being declared a missing person can take 24 hours up to 48 hours (depends on the country and exactly what reasons you have to believe the person in question is truely missing).
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monakh said:
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
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Ahh yes, I stand corrected.
It's so we CAN make the call and are unable to state the location. That WOULD make sense. However, like you said, there are legal hurdles, although at least in the U.S., they are fewer and far between.
is there any ip address list out there which tells me which ip addresses are allocated to which country?
are ip addresses bunched like telephone numbers
e.g. +1 is north america
+3 and +4 is europe
+96 & +97 middle east
nope, that's not how they work
organisations can get an IP from their service provider, who get blocks from their service providers, who get bigger blocks from places like RIPE, who in turn get huge blocks from ARIN.
But if it's a specific IP you're interested in, try VisualRoute
Does anybody know why angry birds needs to read/write sms and also send them? I tried to find anything about it and failed. The only info I found was on their privacy page...
Personal Data: Rovio does not collect or use any personal data that may be used to identify or contact you. Rovio does not collect or use names, email addresses, photos, telephone numbers, credit cards numbers, account numbers or other information that would enable Rovio to identify you. Non-personal data: Rovio may use tools or third party analytical software to collect and use certain non-personal data that does not enable Rovio to identify you. The types of non-personal data Rovio may collect and use include, but are not limited to: (i) mobile device type and device properties; (ii) mobile device software platform and firmware; (iii) mobile phone carrier; (iv) geographical data no more accurate that metropolitan areas; (v) gamescore and achievements; (vi) other non-personal data as reasonably required by Rovio to enhance its services. Rovio may use the collected data for purposes of analyzing usage of Angry Birds, managing and providing Angry Birds and to further develop Rovio’s services and products. Rovio reserves the right to use and disclose the collected non-personal data for purposes of advertisement by Rovio or Rovio’s partners. Data Retention: Rovio retains the information collected pursuant to this Privacy Policy for 12 months. Thereafter if the collected information if no longer needed for purposes specified in this Privacy Policy, Rovio shall delete all aforementioned information in its possession. Third Party Terms and Conditions: Please note that your access to and the ability to play Angry Birds may be subject to certain third party terms and conditions and privacy policies, including but not limited to application stores, mobile software platforms, on-line gaming platforms and payment providers. You recognize and agree that Rovio is not liable for any such third party terms and conditions and their use of your personal data
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They're going to sell upgrades via SMS. Coukdnt wait for in app purchases? Worth an uninstall for me.
because big brother has feathers.
http://www.androidcentral.com/rovio-explains-why-angry-birds-update-needs-sms-permission
Thanks
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How can I wifi tether my phone without paying the fee?
some people told me change UA string, but I have no clue what to do, need some help thanks
Any one have any ideads?
You don't get charged any fees. Tethering is free. All you will be doing is using your data service you're already paying for.
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lilaznhobo said:
How can I wifi tether my phone without paying the fee?
some people told me change UA string, but I have no clue what to do, need some help thanks
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According to the TOS from T-Mobile there is a fee associated with tethering.
However if you are rooted you can use the Wi-Fi tether .apk from Google's code source [http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list] or one of many apps on the market if you can still find them. Some carriers are blocking them.
IF you typically use Firefox, or Google's Chrome as your browser of choice you shouldn't have any problems. But if you use IE it might trip a trigger if T-Mobile should use a sniffer.
Umm I dont believe its free because I received a text message saying that I need to pay $15/month for wi-fi tethering/hotspot
I guess everyone is different... Maybe it has something to do with the people who pay for unlimited data? Because, realistically, if you're paying for unlimited data, what the hell are they going to do? As a matter of fact, I have unlimited data and would tether without them charging me. I'm rooted now and use wireless tether.
But, if you're rooted, use wireless tether that I have attached.
don_perrignon said:
i guess everyone is different... Maybe it has something to do with the people who pay for unlimited data? Because, realistically, if you're paying for unlimited data, what the hell are they going to do? As a matter of fact, i have unlimited data and would tether without them charging me. I'm rooted now and use wireless tether.
But, if you're rooted, use wireless tether that i have attached.
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from t-mobile's web site [http://www.t-mobile.com/Templates/Popup.aspx?PAsset=Ftr_Ftr_TermsAndConditions&print=true]
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lilaznhobo said:
Umm I dont believe its free because I received a text message saying that I need to pay $15/month for wi-fi tethering/hotspot
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I use my phones tether every day for hours. To tether my girls work laptop for her to do her work and to watch netflix and to tether my ps3 to play online(which is down at this moment and is killing me not being able to play cod).
I been doing this since I got the phone last year in december. Not once I been charged nor sent to any website asking me to buy any tether plan.
By the way, I don't use any tether app. I use the tether that came with the phone.
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so I have tried the attachment on this post, tmobile still blocked that wifi tether app. The link that was provided was invalid. I really dont have any clue what to do. oh an I am using firefox.
lilaznhobo said:
so I have tried the attachment on this post, tmobile still blocked that wifi tether app. The link that was provided was invalid. I really dont have any clue what to do. oh an I am using firefox.
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I've used the Wi-Fi tether .apk for a while. In fact i'm refreshing Slacker on my Nook Color via my Cell phone's wi-fi right now.....
Have you tried the app called Barnacle
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