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PPP over Cellular

Since some companies charge insane amounts for GRPS and not minutes, is it possible to work around this by using dialup PPP over the cellular (not GRPS) modem in the connections area?

YES, BUT I THINK DEPENDING ON WHICH SERVICE U USE; THEY WILL STILL CHARGE U FOR THE AMOUNTS OF DATA TRAVELING BAK N FORTH

The various carriers in Australia (except Virgin, which don't support any data at all yet) all charge data calls over GSM as standard peak/off peak calls, just like voice.
So to answer your question, here in Oz I'll often switch back to Analogue CSD line type and dial into my office via our RAS server (ie. use the GSM line) if I plan to browse / download large content, because the peak call works out cheaper than would downloading the data via GPRS (albeit significantly slower!).
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Thanks for the responses
Here's what I've decided to do (USA). I am keeping my AT&T GSM plan for use with voice only. Don't let them scam you into buying a data plan. T-Mobile offers an unlimited internet plan at about 50% of what AT&T and Cingular offer. Once mobileplace lets me know if they have planned for a better dual sim solution than the ghost or cutting, I will switch between sims based on my needs at the time.

CSD Connection Is Beautiful!
JUICEe said:
YES, BUT I THINK DEPENDING ON WHICH SERVICE U USE; THEY WILL STILL CHARGE U FOR THE AMOUNTS OF DATA TRAVELING BAK N FORTH
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I presume otherwise, i.e. most service providers charge air time as if it were a voice call. This is the case with T-Mobile US at least. Nights and weekends are free data time - nice! 9kbps is not too bad to surf the net without graphics.
I posted detailed set-up in thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4723

XDA Exec in Japan

Hi,
I hope someone can help
Just bought a XDA Exec so that can use it in japan to replace my M1000 which is a A1000 in disgise
At the moment I'm using DoCoMo but I'm getting some strange problems the phone takes ages to lock to the signal and sometimes wouldn't ring
I can't seem to get the internet to work with my M1000 setting
The only other 3G network is Vodaphone so i'm wondering if it would be any better than DoCoMo service and if anyone has managed to get the internet work on any one of these networks
Thanks
Rob :?[/b]

Hi, Tokyorob
I think DoCoMo is no suitable and improper for using Exec.
The standard of the cellular phone base stations are different between DoCoMo and others .
DoCoMo's base station named Release99, and the World standard one named Release4.
DoCoMo has also R4 station, but they are only 30 percent of all its stations, and 70 percent are R99.
All devices of DoCoMo are built as Suitable for R99 and R4 both.
M1000 is also that.
But HTC Universal is suitable only for R4.
That's why your Exec can not catch the wave of DoCoMo.
You'd better getting Vodafone USIM.
Regards

Thanks Shamilsh,
That's explains the drop outs
I did try out the Vodafone USIM and found it locked on faster but I still can't get the packet transfer to work
any ideas ?

Can I ask you something?
Hello Guys,
I dont mean to look silly but, as far as I know Japan networks are not GSM, they operate on CDMA, or am I mistaken?!
Thank you & have a great day all.

Tokyorob
You have two means to connect internet with your Exec.
One is UMTS Network of Vodafone KK.
Just you can set DialUp with your Exec setting Utility.
Select a modem: Callular Line(GPRS,3G)
Access Point Name: vodafone
User Name: [email protected]
Password: vodafone
And another is using bluetooth modem like as M1000.
Setting is same as M1000's one.
Regards

Thanks Shamilsh
Tried the config with my friends USIM and it worked..
What pricing package are you on ?
I was looking at the Dual Packet Flat-rate but told by my friend that it doesn't cover everything
Vodafone are less than helpful on the matter
Basically I want to be able to :-
Have the 3G connection on all the time
surf the web
run pocket msn/messager
do you think that will be covered ?
Thanks
Rob

Hi Rob
to use internet, you need to contract package "Happy Packet Super Plan"
or "Data Value Pack Plan".
But on "Data Value Pack", you can not make voice call.
with "Dual Packet Flat Plan", you will not be able to use MSN Meesenger nor E-mail nor Skype, because it is not real internet but it is WAP.
Very sorry but our situation around Mobile is very Inconvenience and non-flexible.

Shamilsh,
Many thanks
contracted to the "Happy Packet Super Plan" going to see what my monthly bill is going to be ..
Rob

Can HSDPA + VOIP be used instead of mobile plan?

I'm in Australia and there are a few HSDPA providers of Mobile internet (a sim card that u can stick in a usb stick to get the web on ur laptop)
Do you need any special software to use these sim cards in a blackstone to access HSDPA, and possibly use VOIP instead over the internet? or is it probably not worth it.
I'd really like to ditch my overpriced vodafone mobile. $4 per megabyte of data seems like alot.

If you want to use data with Vodafone you have to add a plan to your mobile sim as if you use data with out a plan it cost the world, have to mortgage house!!!
If you do that you could use Voip and if HSDPA isn't available you still can use the phone as normal.
Not sure about voip software as I haven't used voip with HSDPA only Skype with WiFi.

You're right the data plans are slightly better but they're still excessive!
I was wondering if I could ditch the mobile part and get a pure data plan (vodafone calls it mobile broadband) like on this page (targeted at laptops) and use it in my phone instead?
http://vodafone.com.au/personal/mobilebroadband/what-is-mobile-broadband.htm

Working in USA & disabling internet?

So I've got Touch-IT 4.5 on my phone (UK Version with O2) and was just wondering, will this phone work in the USA with this firmware?
Also, I have unlimited internet on my phone but not abroad. How can I turn it all off so when i'm in America I don't get charged £6/mb ?

you can use modaco nodata to disable the internet connections of your phone. its a really small, but useful application.

@Evostance
yes your phone will work in USA but your O2 goes on roaming cost a lot of $$$ I recommend to buy a AT & T or Virgin prepaid card when you there so your Work Colleges can call you on this #, for the internet most of the Hotels if you stay in an Hotel have complementary I-net with Wlan and when you have Skype with a money account you can call via wlan + Skype for less than a cent to GB
if you stay in a Hotel from Hilton group I recommend to get a Hilton honors card asap it’s for free there points program are one of the best in the World.

Using G1 in India

I live in the UK (London) and am G1 user (root/JF ADP1.5). I will be visiting India in the near future and would like to be online via the G1. From browsing the web it seems this is possible, other users have managed to do this.
I just wanted to get a clear picture of what is involved in getting the G1 data connection enabled in India?
Here’s what I expect, please correct me if I am wrong and please do add anything that you may think would be of interest in knowing…?
Purchase SIM card. Either Airtel or Vodaphone preferably the one is cheapest and/or provides faster data connection (ie 3g or not).
Phone is unlocked to accept any sim card so no problems there.
Enter some settings in the phone to enable data connection. It’s here where I’m unsure what to do or if the network provider will be able to provide the relevant details I would require?
Once I set this up will the G1 run as normal or will there be any limitations? Will google maps pick up my current location and how accurate will it be in India? Will I receive push Email?
Any other advice/comments about using the G1 on an Indian sim would be greatly appreciated.
Jignesh

As long as you have your data set up, EDGE/GPRS, maps will work just fine, so will your push email. GPS will work too, its pretty accurate, you'll just find tile download times excruciating especially if you are used to 3G. When in India i use Vodafone btw.

Everything work as expected, the interner comnection is EDGE based so the speed is slow, you can get the setting from the provider or else from the internet, generally provider settings are sent to phone through OTA and received as system setting message on other Nokia phone this feature is yet to be implmented on Android. The Airtel setting is Apn airtelgprs.com , once you create a new Apn settingyou just have to enter this apn and other default network and area code will bepicked from simcard
Nothing change the technology and network are same and if you are going to be in Delhi use MTNL as provider and use there 3G network to access Internet

yeah i used it for about 2 months there, no problems whatsoever..(except that I managed to get the screen cracked while playing cricket!) i am not sure about market/OTA working there...but you can use the gprs connection to use all the online frills that G1 has..

I live in Maharashtra, India & have Android Developer Phone 1
Here There Is no 3G only GPRS/EDGE
If U are going to visit Maharashtra or say Mumbai city,
I would prefer u to use Airtel Sim Bcoz Vodaphone Sim Costs 10paise/10kb means nearly 10 Rupees for 1 MB & in $, $1 for 5MB
While Airtel Allows 2 Data plans:
1. Daily Unlimited Plan:
Use Unlimited Data For Rs 20 - 25 per day
I would prefer U this Plan As My G1 at least Uses 30 MB of Data per Day According to Nercounter app
Ask the Airtel Gallery/ Customer Care For Activation...
2. Mobile Office Plan (30 paise / 50 kb):
This Plan charges according to your data Usage, 30 p / 50 kb means Rs. 6-7 per Mb
If U choose This activation process would not be given by customer care, so here is the process:
Dial *567#
Reply "1" Mobile Office Activation
Again Enter "1" Activate Mobile Office
It will be activated within 1 hour
now The Apn Setting:
Apn Name : put any thing, I put Airtel
Apn : airtelgprs.com
Then Save It, U have Activated GPRS/EDGE

Everything works fine, except:
1. OTA.
and 2. Paid Market Apps (at least on my phone! G1 with Jf1.5)

that too can be done !!!
1. OTA is enabled For Both ADP1 & G1 that too in all the Countries...
2. Paid Applications: Its Sim Dependent, So is Not enabled on ADP1,
sol : If u Have an Proper US Billing Address U can get past through it even on ADP1... Just Get MarketEnabler App on Jf 1.5
I can view Paid Apps but cant buy coz i lack US Billing Address...

Using G1 in India in New Delhi
Hi Team,
I got the Android from US, it is unlocked for all networks.
Now, in India I am trying to use it on Vodafone network in Delhi, but the phone does not starts, as after entering the username and password for Gmail, the phone is not able to connect to the Google Servers and so I am not able to start and use my phone here.

manikuta said:
Hi Team,
I got the Android from US, it is unlocked for all networks.
Now, in India I am trying to use it on Vodafone network in Delhi, but the phone does not starts, as after entering the username and password for Gmail, the phone is not able to connect to the Google Servers and so I am not able to start and use my phone here.
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It seems that you have reset your phone, and thats why you got the activation screen.
and now with the Vodafone SIM, you have to setup your phone with their APN. On the activation screen, you have the option to manually set your APN settings by pressing the Menu button.

manikuta said:
Hi Team,
I got the Android from US, it is unlocked for all networks.
Now, in India I am trying to use it on Vodafone network in Delhi, but the phone does not starts, as after entering the username and password for Gmail, the phone is not able to connect to the Google Servers and so I am not able to start and use my phone here.
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guys even im having the same problem . im stuck at login screen the phone fails to contact google servers . cud som1 plz gimme the exact apn settings plz .

Even i had the same problem ...was stuck at login screen
I m with vodafone so activated its vodafone mobile connect service.
vodfone says its gprs/edge service cannot access https websites..
as google login requires https protocol all those who are with gprs/edge wont be able to go ahead.
you need to call your service provider and tell them " i need data plan that allows me to access all www sites"
i have tried almost on all service providers and this is the language they understand..
it takes few hrs for activation for vodafone mobile connect.
after activtion enter APN: www
leave all fields blank.
BANG! you are now in if you don need the service deactivate it!
LOGIN FIXED!!!!