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Warning Wing owners: callers can hear you while phone rings!

A word of caution to fellow T-Mobile Wing owners:
I've found out that (occasionally) when my phone is ringing, the microphone is on and the caller can hear everything! My wife mentioned that she notices this when she calls. She can hear the ringer, and can hear me talking to others BEFORE I answer the phone! This can be really bad! The last thing I need is someone calling and hearing me mutter "What the #$%^ does this $%^& want now?" Plus it gives a big feeling of lack of privacy.
I thought surely it was a fluke, so called my self via landline and found it happened about 1 out of 10 or 15 times.
My next thought was it was software - some 3rd party app or tweak had caused it, so I hard reset back to the default stock ROM and still had the same problem. I installed a few different cooked ROMs, and still had the same problem.
The next troubleshooting step is to rule out hardware. My brother and coworker also use a Wing. I tried the same test and found the same issue there, so it wasn't unique to my device.
I called T-Mobile support to see if there was anything they could do, and they gave me a few bonehead suggestions: swap sim cards, hard reset, make sure the battery is fully charged...
Since this issue occurs:
1. With a clean stock ROM
2. With different cooked ROMs
3. On multiple devices
I don't really know what can be done about this. All I can do is watch my mouth while my phone is ringing until the T-MO Diamond or whatever Android phone they release comes out...
Anyone have any ideas? All you other Wing owners may want to try this yourself, or ask someone who calls you often if they've noticed it!
Ryan

oh wow no wonder.
its happend to me before.
but only once so im good.
thanks for clarification

This happens to me quite frequently. If you quickly put the phone to your ear when you answer you can hear your ringtone still playing, but hear the person on the other line as well. I think it's more along the lines of a delay in your ringer shutting off rather than the mic turning on.
Just my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.

Untalented said:
This happens to me quite frequently. If you quickly put the phone to your ear when you answer you can hear your ringtone still playing, but hear the person on the other line as well. I think it's more along the lines of a delay in your ringer shutting off rather than the mic turning on.
Just my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.
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I do experience what you're describing, but this is different. If I leave the phone sitting on the counter, then somebody calls me, they can hear my ringer and anything going on around the phone even if I don't touch it.
It's like the phone mic occasionally turns itself on, and the caller hears the open mic instead of the normal dialing tone.
Ryan

funny thing is i can actually believe that t-mobile said "make sure the battery is fully charged"

kidnamedAlbert said:
funny thing is i can actually believe that t-mobile said "make sure the battery is fully charged"
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TMobile rocks da house *g*

You may be under FBI surveillance :
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1009_3-0-10&subj=news

Isn't there a setting that says "automatically answer phone after 3 rings"? Could that be it?

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You may be under FBI surveillance [/URL]
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lol!
Kar98 said:
Isn't there a setting that says "automatically answer phone after 3 rings"? Could that be it?
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But that's the thing... the phone isn't picked up. After about 30 seconds, it rolls over to voicemail and shows as a missed call...
Ryan

Vibration Stuck Issue - Luckily Vibration Motor not Burnt

has anyone experienced the problem of vibration not turning off when receiving email? my hd2 vibrated for like i dont know, at least almost 10minutes one night when i was sleeping and i was woken up by the sound of the vibration. thank God the vibration motor was not burnt due to overuse or overheat.
i had a windows mobile 5 htc made smartphone and the vibration motor almost got damaged once because the entire device got stuck and hang in one occasion when a call was received and i was out. the phone was charging and i think the vibration went on and on more God knows how long. when i got back, the motor was extremely weak, and i think permenantly damaged.
and i dont like the fact that in every windows mobile phone (or just htc phones) the vibration does not pulse, and is constantly on until the ringtone is finished playing. this is really dumb. has been like this since windows mobile 5. i've owned 4 htc made windows phone now and even the latest and greatest HD2 has not improved in this matter.

+1
I would also like pulationg vibration.......while this way it will be more effective.. and saving some battery on teh other hand . then continously vibrating ..
may be someone can do it with some hack....

alexnvidia said:
has anyone experienced the problem of vibration not turning off when receiving email? my hd2 vibrated for like i dont know, at least almost 10minutes one night when i was sleeping and i was woken up by the sound of the vibration. thank God the vibration motor was not burnt due to overuse or overheat.
i had a windows mobile 5 htc made smartphone and the vibration motor almost got damaged once because the entire device got stuck and hang in one occasion when a call was received and i was out. the phone was charging and i think the vibration went on and on more God knows how long. when i got back, the motor was extremely weak, and i think permenantly damaged.
and i dont like the fact that in every windows mobile phone (or just htc phones) the vibration does not pulse, and is constantly on until the ringtone is finished playing. this is really dumb. has been like this since windows mobile 5. i've owned 4 htc made windows phone now and even the latest and greatest HD2 has not improved in this matter.
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Add me to the list, mine got stuck from the text message alert, i thought it was just me! Although, i thought it might of been because the alert tone was too long (approx 10 seconds), i changed the alert tone to a shorter one and so far it seems to of stopped the problem.

I have the same issue, do we think this is ROM related or not?

I have this problem once only. It happened when I use Custom ROM. Running back the stock ROM, problem does not occur.

I have it as well
I have it as well ...and twice, also with the official ROM where I didn't install any Custom ROM so far.

i've had it twice now, first with official ROM, second, just 2 days ago, with custom ROM. and it all happened in the middle of night, 3-5am! darn phone woke me up with a scare! i thought i was the only one.

alexnvidia said:
i've had it twice now, first with official ROM, second, just 2 days ago, with custom ROM. and it all happened in the middle of night, 3-5am! darn phone woke me up with a scare! i thought i was the only one.
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I had the same problem once, I have received an SMS during looking on weather and changing to view the home screen - it got stucked totally, I had to softreset the phone putting out the battery.

looks like we are not alone.. i hope more owners will take notice of this issue so we can collectively complain to htc. it's getting on my nerves waking me up in the middle of the night!

this morning with the alarm it vibrated non stop instead of with a few pauses, and it kept on vibrating untill I stopped the alarm..
sigh.. bug #667

Try this for phone and SMS vibration patterns;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569025
For alarms, I use SPB Time 3.2 anyway... I love how they have a Bioalarm (Chirping birds, but relatively silent and ascending volume) and also how you can shake to snooze (which works really well and does not involve a serious shaking)

It happens for me too, but only when receiving text messages - it just keps buzzing
My "solution" in "Normal Mode" was to have only sound (I turned of vibration) when receiving text messages.
When on "Vibration Mode" this does not happen

I've had this happen on 3 different HTC phones:
Touch Diamond
Xperia X1
and now HD2
It must be some kind of issue between WM and HTC hardware... because I can't imagine all the different ROMs I've flashed on all three devices had this bug...
I just turn off vibration for txt and email. Wish this could be fixed.

i had this problem today. my text came in at 12am and i only manage to get awake by the vibrate noise at 4am to stop it! my text tone is 6sec . 4 hour of vibrating. luckily the vibrate still working. Gosh

Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
I JUST CAME ACROSS THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW AND COINCIDENTLY,I JUST RECIEVED AN EMAIL & MY PHONE JUST DID THIS NON-STOP VIBRATION PROBLEM!!!!! WHAT WAS THE CHANCES OF THAT!?
Seriously, this is the first time it has done that not sure why. I just flashed this rom(Dutty's) about 3-4 days ago. Let us know if anyone finds a solution and why it does it.

rumz82 said:
Lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
I JUST CAME ACROSS THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW AND COINCIDENTLY,I JUST RECIEVED AN EMAIL & MY PHONE JUST DID THIS NON-STOP VIBRATION PROBLEM!!!!! WHAT WAS THE CHANCES OF THAT!?
Seriously, this is the first time it has done that not sure why. I just flashed this rom(Dutty's) about 3-4 days ago. Let us know if anyone finds a solution and why it does it.
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WOW, is it time-based ? I read this last night and the stuck vibration happened to my unit this morning on an email notification! (TMOUS stock)

I haven't really had a stuck problem with my Tmo US version with stock e-mail ringtone. One of my gripes with this phone though is how weak the vibrator is. When I have it in my pocket, I can barely feel a thing unless I am sitting down? Maybe my pants are too loose/baggy? I wouldn't want to have to wear skinny jeans just for the phone though.
I used to have the Tmo MyTouch3g and the vibrator on that phone was perfect. It had pulse vibrate AND it was strong enough for me to feel in my pocket.

using sat nav last week got to my destination recieved an e-mail and then heard a strange noise thought it was my car turned off engine still had noise, touched the roof and it was vibrating, it was the phone had to reset to stop it, it has strongest vibration of any phone i've oned.

alexnvidia said:
looks like we are not alone.. i hope more owners will take notice of this issue so we can collectively complain to htc. it's getting on my nerves waking me up in the middle of the night!
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hey, i thought its only happening to me..looks like so many people experiencing this problem.. the phone vibrates around 6AM when i was asleep.. donno what cause it,no incoming call, no SMS, no incoming mail, no nothing.. plus, i always end every task on the phone before went to bed..anywant found the soluton for it? please help..
thanks in advance..cheers

+1 with this bug

Phone doesnt ring when it should

My friend called me yesterday and he was asking why you didnt answer your phone. Well i was like what the **** you didn't even call me. Later that day he was standing next to me when he calld me and it still didnt ring so whats the problem?

variskarhu said:
My friend called me yesterday and he was asking why you didnt answer your phone. Well i was like what the **** you didn't even call me. Later that day he was standing next to me when he calld me and it still didnt ring so whats the problem?
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Do you accidentally have them diverted to another phone or something? Really strange... Can you ring him?

The exact same thing happened to me a couple of days ago. The missus wanted to know why I hadn't rung her back, but I had no missed calls. I got my brother to ring me, stood next to me and it was showing it was ringing on his phone, bit my phone was oblivious to it! A reboot fixed it, but there's no way of knowing if it had happened. I could still send and receive texts.

A similar thing happened to me 2 days ago. The phone wouldn't ring, even when I called it from a different phone, but I did get a missed call notification. I had to restart and then re-choose a ring tone and then it worked again. I have no idea how this all of a sudden happened as I didn't change anything in the phone.

Were you using GPRS connection at the time? Because when connected to GPRS, and data is actively being sent/received, the phone will not respond and the caller will get an engaged tone.
This is ONLY when data is being sent/received, and only on GPRS, not 3G/HSDPA (Edge i'm not sure about)
Edit - this is based on quite old information from my early days with GPRS, you might want to check it.

I don't know what connection I was on, but I wasn't sending an engaged tone. Anyone ringing me had the ring tone, just no answer (obviously really as I couldn't answer even if I knew it was ringing!)

i have the same problem here. did anyone solve this yet?
thanks.

Is the "phone/ ring sound" switched of?

[Q] Echo in calls

Does anybody else have problems where the person you call hears them selves talk? There voice is echoing!
Does flashing a custom rom stop this or is it because of the Crystal Talk stuff?
Thanks

It is possible that you're using speakers and the voice is so loud that they actually hear themselves? If you have not flash a custom rom and you're on official rom then no, you should ask the company to look into this if you still have the warranty.

shad0wboss said:
It is possible that you're using speakers and the voice is so loud that they actually hear themselves? If you have not flash a custom rom and you're on official rom then no, you should ask the company to look into this if you still have the warranty.
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It's not on loud speaker and the volume is at the lowest point. I only got it on Thursday arranged for it to go back.

Does it do it everywhere? I have had problems with all of my tmobile phones on occasion. Not sure why. My last phone used to do it all the time. Very annoying. Only had it happen once with the defy in the last month.

someAZdude said:
Does it do it everywhere? I have had problems with all of my tmobile phones on occasion. Not sure why. My last phone used to do it all the time. Very annoying. Only had it happen once with the defy in the last month.
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Never had it before with any phone I have owned. It's seems to be worse when i'm outside when the wind is hitting the second mic, also when this happens it sort of makes it sort of sound like i've got my head in a box when I talk. Hope that makes sense? Iv'e tried all the call quality settings but it's still the same. It has to be this Crystal Talk Type or what ever it is..
Thanks for the reply guys.

Our of curiosity, while this is happening, have you tried opening the usb cover to see if that changes the sound. There is at least one report of a "pressurized" effect on the Defy (as it's sealed) causing sound issues, relieved when the ysb cover or battery cover are removed.

scrannel said:
Our of curiosity, while this is happening, have you tried opening the usb cover to see if that changes the sound. There is at least one report of a "pressurized" effect on the Defy (as it's sealed) causing sound issues, relieved when the ysb cover or battery cover are removed.
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hhmmmmm interesting, I did think about the hands free speaker being behind the battery cover when I tried calling someone and they said it was terrible echo.
I'll go and try it and let you know.
Thanks

echo?
hi guys. i have a real problem here.... when i call a friend or anyone else i can hear my voice repeated after 1 second just like an echo. many times i cant even hear what they are saying to me because i just listening my voice again and again.. i dont think that i am the onlyone with that problem because another friend who has a dhd rooted just like mine different roms has the same problems.... thnx for any help..

patomo09 said:
hi guys. i have a real problem here.... when i call a friend or anyone else i can hear my voice repeated after 1 second just like an echo. many times i cant even hear what they are saying to me because i just listening my voice again and again.. i dont think that i am the onlyone with that problem because another friend who has a dhd rooted just like mine different roms has the same problems.... thnx for any help..
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hey im having the same problem with my new defy plus phone? did you find any solutions

Please ask all questions in the Q&A section. Thread moved there.

Even if this thread is old, is there a solution?

Radio static sounds when talking with a phone call

Hey as stated above I hear a minor static sound and wondering is there anyway to prevent this?
It isn't cool to hear as I hear less of the caller and the caller doesn't hear me but the statics. Happens by time by time...
Please help

It has happend to me also, but not during a call. I was hearing a sound for a while with some stops and then looping again. Restarting the phone fixed the problem.

cirnocirno said:
Hey as stated above I hear a minor static sound and wondering is there anyway to prevent this?
It isn't cool to hear as I hear less of the caller and the caller doesn't hear me but the statics. Happens by time by time...
Please help
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same happened to me,the phone went for replacement and my replacement didnt have this problem.

flipmodegr said:
same happened to me,the phone went for replacement and my replacement didnt have this problem.
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I have already replaced, this one doesn't do as much as before I asked them why it does it at all. They give me the answer of that phone is receiving too much signals and can't handle it. I am not sure what I am supposed to get by that but I said okay, as this is my second replacement.

I had the same problem... sent it for replacement but the new one not only had the same mic problem but also burned pixels... sent that one for replacement too... I'm really dissapointed from this phone...