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It appears the Treo 800w has Direct3D support.
I'm curious if the D3Demo can be run on devices to determine their D3D ability?
anyone have it?
http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/treo_800w_direct3d_hardware_ac.html
Here is the D3D Demo App.
I get 4fps on my Titan
~35fps on HTC Elf
My own test with a textured cylinder (100 triangles) renders ~10fps.
edit: stupid post, the OP had already said what i said :/ oops
Wow. 3 whole FPS on my Kaiser!!!
Surur
About 37 fps on my prophet...
surur said:
Wow. 3 whole FPS on my Kaiser!!!
Surur
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If you are brave enough try
http://www.htcclassaction.org/driverprogress.php#update_20080718_1
47-50 fps on my Elfin with overclook!!!
at 273Mhz
More than 20fps on Kaiser with D3D drivers. No FPS display however.
No FPS display here too, but it displays quite well
~30 fps with my P3470 Phraros
3.67 on my touch dual roflcopters!
So, until now no device with hardware acceleration! This simple demo should run with hundreds of fps. Anybody with a htc diamond wants to try?
haha
This Wierd i Get 39.08 FPS on HP IPAQ it like the more powerful the device is the slower the FPS and The Crappier Specs device the FPS is higher
So I tried the demo on my Diamond, there was no FPS displayed but the cube and it's orbiting ball moved very smoothly with no noticeable frame dropping. I'd confidently guess at over 30fps. CorePlayer works great with no frame dropping on xvids, but I'd like to try a good graphics intensive game that supported the diamond hardware.
Is my Sprint HTC Touch with WM6.1 supposed to be getting 3FPS? Seems awful slow to me.
mine doesnt show the fps i have the new drivers on the tilt but it runs pretty smooth
3fps on my tilt, running Dutty's 4/29 rom WITHOUT drivers.
uniqueboy said:
So I tried the demo on my Diamond, there was no FPS displayed but the cube and it's orbiting ball moved very smoothly with no noticeable frame dropping. I'd confidently guess at over 30fps. CorePlayer works great with no frame dropping on xvids, but I'd like to try a good graphics intensive game that supported the diamond hardware.
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So no text display on your HTC Diamond?
I wonder if this is why the Kaiser is afflicted too since it uses some Diamond dlls.
runs smooth as silk here on my Himalaya, which surprised me quite a bit
though i can't tell you the exact framerate as the textdisplay for them is somehow missing, i guess the framerate is somewhere between 30-40 fps or something like that...
Hey all.
So the HTC Touch Diamond has a VGA screen. How can I get it to play VGA quality videos? or is this not possible? I would of thought it would be with its own graphics processor and decent cpu. I have tried .mp4 at 512kbits 640x480, but struggle more than 7 or 8 fps. It works good enough at half the resolution, but is still dropping some frames. Not as good at video playback as some reviews would have me believe.
I am using TCPMP , which has been modified to work with Windows Mobile 6.1
Many thanks.
Gary.
Well, I have played some movies that have higher resolution than 640x480 with -very- smooth framerates in CorePlayer (easily over 20 fps).
Specifically: HellBoy Sword of Storms, Eagle vs. Shark.
No problems at all.
HTC Touch Pro.
Yep, i have high res files playing in coreplayer as well (touch pro). coreplayer doesnt fully support diamond (or touch pro) so it can only get better in the future
Taken from Coreplayers site, this looks good:
GPU support: Intel 2700g, ->ATI Imageon<-, QTv, Marvell Monahan Processors
CPU Support: ARM9, ->ARM11<-, MIPS
Both the processor and gpu will be used really well on our diamonds/touch pros.
coreplayer works fine for me in vids much higher than the screen res, you must be doing something wrong or that "hack" to make the player work in 6.1 really isn't a good idea
Ok, thanks for all your replies. What format are you using to get decent fps with Coreplayer, and what bit rate normally?
Its a shame coreplayer do not have a trial version, so I want to be pretty certain first that it will work.
TCPMP hasnt been developed for a few years i dont think so that might also not help.
Well i splashed for Coreplayer anyway, but I still get rubbish fps
.AVI (xvid) 640x480, 24fps, 748kbits.
Am I using the wrong codec?
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Well i splashed for Coreplayer anyway, but I still get rubbish fps
.AVI (xvid) 640x480, 24fps, 748kbits.
Am I using the wrong codec?
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24fps!?
That's supposed to be quite good (100% for most movie rips).
Using Coreplayer, VGA .avi videos play very smoothly on my diamond as long as I'm not using A2DP. Once I pop on my Jabra BT8010, the high res vids start to skip a little. I hope Coreplayer fixes that up soon!
Hmmm, could one of you do a favour please?
Go to http://www.madagascarmovie.com/
Click on trailers
Download the PSP version of the trailer, and then try to play that on your HTC Touch Diamond. It won't even play that for me Then let me know if it works fine for you or not. I get alot of tearing and skipping. I have gone as low as 640x480 avi at 512kbits and its still jolting around and skipping. I have used all the different types of rendering, and currently have Coreplayer 1.25
Not the good playback I was expecting
Thanks
Gary
After some tweaking around with the bitpool and some searching, I've gotten the A2DP performance hit down to a minimum.
Bitpool: 58
Maximum Bitpool: 80
That seems to reduce the stuttering when playing VGA vids using coreplayer. They still stutter a little during some demanding action scenes when using A2DP, but the stutter is much better and the audio and video are in sync.
Once Coreplayer is optimized for the Diamond, this thing is going to scream!
Overall, I'm pretty impressed with this little phone.
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Taken from Coreplayers site, this looks good:
GPU support: Intel 2700g, ->ATI Imageon<-, QTv, Marvell Monahan Processors
CPU Support: ARM9, ->ARM11<-, MIPS
Both the processor and gpu will be used really well on our diamonds/touch pros.
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What version include this ?? or is just for a future version ??
And what is the GPU that comes with diamond ?? that "ati Imageon" ??
TY
So there are no video apps that are currently programmed to use HTC Touch Diamonds fancy bits? like the graphics processor etc?
use the divx labs divx player!!! lol
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Hmmm, could one of you do a favour please?
Go to http://www.madagascarmovie.com/
Click on trailers
Download the PSP version of the trailer, and then try to play that on your HTC Touch Diamond. It won't even play that for me Then let me know if it works fine for you or not. I get alot of tearing and skipping. I have gone as low as 640x480 avi at 512kbits and its still jolting around and skipping. I have used all the different types of rendering, and currently have Coreplayer 1.25
Not the good playback I was expecting
Thanks
Gary
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OK, I did what you said and I ran the video in Coreplayer benchmark mode. The best I could get was 70%. Perhaps it's the h264 format that is so demanding?
The more I use the Diamond the more I get dissapointed.
Hi, I'm having the same problem on my Touch Pro (i'd post in the TP forums, but no app/software category there), however I don't have Core Player because I won't pay for something if I can't see if it works first.
My question though is: Are there any similar movie file players like Core Player that are free?
(sorry if this was a bit off-topic, and I've tried searching but did not find anything useful)
If I see correct, madagascar is h.264 coded. It's a codec that is used to prepare hd video(b-r,hd-dvd etc.). It needs a powerfull processor or a hardware acceleration from graphic card. Some of new computers have problem with decoding it (i.e. with embaded video chip) and you're trying to play it on diamond. The 70% you're getting is a great score.
I have Coreplayer v 1.1.0 Build 1408
I get some lag for my music videos I have on my phone.
File Size: 78,924KB
Video Size: 640 * 480
Frame Rate: 29.970
is there a reason why it's laggy?
Why don't you try the latest build which is v1.2.5 I believe.
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Why don't you try the latest build which is v1.2.5 I believe.
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Just updated and still has the same problem, maybe it's the file that is the issue.
Thought id post this for those who are looking for a divx player.
http://labs.divx.com/node/6211
CorePlayer still works faster on the Diamond.
How fast?
can i simply drop a regular ~700mb xvid/divx movie on the internal storage and play it in full screen(with dithering and smooth zooming enabled) without lag or frame dropping?
just wondering since i'm probably buying the diamond, and this could really be a deal breaker.
leonatan25 said:
CorePlayer still works faster on the Diamond.
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My friend I think you didn't try watching divx on Diamond...We can't watch divx even with core player. But this is possible on Omnia. So we are watching other programs ore codecs...
sorry but, have no problems watching dvix 700mb files on my diamond witch coreplayer
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My friend I think you didn't try watching divx on Diamond...We can't watch divx even with core player. But this is possible on Omnia. So we are watching other programs ore codecs...
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I'm sorry, but I have no problem watching 640x272 files on my Diamond with CP.
I have 2 diamonds and for a few days the omnia i900. I think nobody can see a full 700Mb movie on Diamond, without cuts. But on omnia is no problem at all. Omnia is much much faster than Diamond. I was thinking to buy one, but i will wait for the 480x800 version.
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I have 2 diamonds and for a few days the omnia i900. I think nobody can see a full 700Mb movie on Diamond, without cuts. But on omnia is no problem at all. Omnia is much much faster than Diamond. I was thinking to buy one, but i will wait for the 480x800 version.
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Omnia resolution screen is just 240 x 400 pixels
Diamond is real vga - 640 x 480 ...
so Omnia has less resolution with faster CPU ...
as result, u have BIG cut in the resolution with the Omnia..
Diamond is not for Multimedia. Is one of the slowest mobile that I`ve been testing so far. The only thing that can chage this is the release of Ati video Drivers from HTC and a new O.S (maybe windows mobile 6.5?). Until that, I recomend you to buy another phone with better multimedia support (iphone or nokia)
I downloaded DivX player from divx labs and installed it.
After that, I started downloading movies from the following site:
http://moviesmobile.net/
and now, I have aproximatly 10 movies installed on my phone, that I can watch with rather good quality, (not crisp)
So I think it's very well doable, but you shouldn't try to cram a 700 mb movie trough there.
also, I used core player once and it starts showing some weird deformations when I run a 700 mb movie on my diamond
The speed stays nice and stable, but the movie itself looks like crap.
Hope this helps
Err, that site only has 320xXXX resolution, awful lol.
"700MB divx" don't mean anything.
You have to look the bitrate of the video. The diamond with the last Core Player can handle videos (almost perfectly) with a bitrate <~ 550 (and a resolution under the 640x)
No problems with video at all. Make sure to tailor your videos to the Diamonds resolution, I use DVD Catalyst to switch up resolution, then DL to my phone. Typical 1 1/2 hour movie is around 550 to 650MB, I use size to denote quality although even a 550MB movie looks awesome on my Diamond.
Mind you, this is using the new Telus ROM
Whatever Telus did with the ROM upgrade, it turbocharged my media capabilities
by 700 mb I ment all comon .avi files cam,TS,DVDrips and so on you can find. Had no problem whatsoever.
Videos with a higher bitrate than 600~700 will have frame drop on the diamond.
Its hard to see them, especially if the movie don't have many actions scenes.
With a movie ~90mn/700MB, you have generally a ~800KBp, so no problem really, some frame drop, but it seem perfect.
But if you try a ~20mn/400MB or ~40mn/700MB (midle quality TV Show for example), the bitrate is most higher than 1000KBp and the video its almost unviewable...
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Diamond is not for Multimedia. Is one of the slowest mobile that I`ve been testing so far. The only thing that can chage this is the release of Ati video Drivers from HTC and a new O.S (maybe windows mobile 6.5?). Until that, I recomend you to buy another phone with better multimedia support (iphone or nokia)
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http://www.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp
I`m watching 700MB movies whitout problems, is very important what program was used when the movie was processed, there are some that hang some time. I watched movies that had 1500kb bitrate without problems, and the quality is great. Try the CorePlayer 1.3 is the best. I will always choose my Diamond over an Omnia .
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Diamond is not for Multimedia. Is one of the slowest mobile that I`ve been testing so far. The only thing that can chage this is the release of Ati video Drivers from HTC and a new O.S (maybe windows mobile 6.5?). Until that, I recomend you to buy another phone with better multimedia support (iphone or nokia)
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I didn't know that HTC Diamond got an ATI chipset
Maybe it has a HD4850
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I didn't know that HTC Diamond got an ATI chipset
Maybe it has a HD4850
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well the Diamond uses a Qualcomm cpu which has a embeded ATI Imageon. Programs like coremedia player uses this to improve the performance, but windows mobile comes without drivers. So bassically your diamond is running windows mobile like a failsafe version of windows xp.
check this link http://www.mobilewave.ro/news/Performanta-grafica-a-lui-HTC-Diamond-Touch-Pro-259.html, there are a few videos about the bad Diamond´s graphic perfomance. Devices with one, two or even 3 years have better perfomance than diamond
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thats very funny , a synthetic benchmark is very helpfull to see the true potencial of the device, but that doesn´t meen that you are using all of this power in a daily use. Just one example, try to play a video (H.264 at VGA (640×480) resolutions at 30 frames per second) in a diamond and then try a nokia n96. The nokia device plays the video smooth and without lag, the diamond video is laggy with frame lost, but ehy! you can run the benchmark on the diamond to feel better afther that.
htc performance post.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449391
is the htc touch hd capable of high definition play back like the Samsung Omnia i900 or is it called hd for some other reason
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is the htc touch hd capable of high definition play back like the Samsung Omnia i900 or is it called hd for some other reason
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Well, NEITHER of the two can play HD, as (full)HD has a resolution of 1920x1080.The HD's resolution is 800x480. The omnia's is even lower! 400x240. Besides, they can't handle the bitrates that come with HD.
Read all about HDTV resolution on this page...
http://www.cnet.com/hdtv-resolution/
I have sling media running on my T-mobile TP2. Runs great but the screen does not go full screen to the whole entire screen. has anyone done anything or have sling media running on Touch pro 2?. my touch pro 2 is 800 x 480. the size on sling media is 320 x 240.
was wondering if anyone did anything to fix it. like a video resolution mod or something for the touch pro 2
fix resolution
I use WVGAFIX3 to swtich between resolutions for some sotware that dont resize. Search in the forums for it.
I have WVGAFIX3
But how would i use it with sling media?
I think we're stuck waiting on Sling to improve the capabilities of streaming via windows mobile. With the official launch of 6.5, there is a good chance they'll spit out something nice. The iPhone Slingplayer currently supports VGA resolution, but only over WiFi. Apple/AT&T have not allowed the app to connect over 3g.
It's never going to fill the entire screen, however, because the aspect ratio is different than your standard 16:9 or 4:3 (WVGA = 800x480 = 5:3). But you can bet that eventually, the Slingplayer for Windows Mobile will improve the max resolution in the not-too-distant future.
Fronc thank you for the reply
thank you for the reply.
You got it, bud. I'm with ya on the request!
i think it looks great. in landscape, it looks like it just doesnt go widescreen (like hd channels on my widescreen tv). so anyone out there considering getting a slingbox, have no worries, it works great!
find tthe non HD channels. they work better
I think it might have more to do with aspect ratio than res.
New Sling mobile ver 2.0
Hello,
FYI,
I was running version 1.6 of the sling mobile.. and I had the same issue as you.
Try the version 2.0 .. you will have the auto-fit ( full screen minus 4 rows at the top/botom for the ratio)
The version 2 have a nice touch friendly design . But it still QWvga(320x240)
I love it ...
Cheer
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