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Sadly enough I have noticed that the xperia X1 does not like my premium volkswagen carkit. As used in passat or audi or skoda superb, bmw, Mercedes, etc.
I have an RNS-510, but have also tried it with a RNS-310. Both having the premium carkit in it. Also called carkit III.
It uses rSAP to enable transfer of contacts and phone settings control.
I have tested with a nokia N95 and it works perfectly fine with that after you enable the remote sim access profile. Also known as SAP.
Sadly enough, the X1 refuses to connect. The carkit just says the phone is not compatible.
Anybody have any clue what to do?
Maybe a custom ROM which does have this functionality? Or a tool that can be added?
u r talking about remote sim access right?
my rom (cmex absolute touch) got an option to enable it under bluetooth setting (connections)
Yes or You use this little cab! Works perfectly with VW Golf VI PRemium Handsfreekit. I used the smaller file, but if it dont works try the bigger one!
In the bluetoothsettings you should find the sap profile after the installation, and in the programs a small utility to activate it. the Xperia himself has no SAP Profile!
wow!
I definately came to the right place! I will try this out tommorow first thing and let you know if it works!
Thnx's again. Also considering your rom now achmed20, because I believe this is quite basic functionality which should have been there in the first place!
As I said, I'll let you know if this worked!
not working yet
Well, that helped, a bit.
I get to the connection screen, have to enter the 16 digit pincode and after that the car just says connecting, and stays doing this for a minute or two and then just says failed or not compatible.
So I'm a lot further, but it isn't working yet! I'm thinking because of all the things I have tried, I might have broken it somewhere, but unsure how or what.
Thinking of maybe flashing it with a different (custom) rom, to see if that might fix the problem.
Anyone have any other advice?
no experience with the kind of trouble your having but if you want to try off on a fresh start, i would do a hard reset, then install the cab fix that was recommended.
still not working
I just installed the cmEX absolute TOUCH rom and did a hard reset after that.
Enabled rsap on the last tab of bluetooth and the car says its connecting and just does that for a long time (after entering pin code). Sadly enough, it just times out.
Anybody have any clue what could be the problem? I have the feeling we are allmost there, but there is just a little thing causing it to time out.
rsap even says it's connected to my skoda and everything.
From what I can gather, the cmEX absolute TOUCH rom is based on a touch HD.
more testing!
Okay, from what I have been able to gather, the following is going on.
The carkit is trying to log on in a frequency that it cannot handle.
I have been able to connect the carkit, download the address book and make calls with my Xperia now. No problems what so ever....except one. I was using a SIM from a collega whom has a different network!
I use t-mobile and my collegea has kpn/telfort. Doing more research, I have learned that kpn/telfort and vodaphone use the 1800 band frequency. And that t-mobile uses the 900 frequency.
I am not entirely certain at this point that this truly is the real problem, but, my phone works, my carkit and car works, so all the software bits are in sync, but only using a different sim. Rebooting the phone, changing nothing but the sim, makes it completely broken again!!
I'm using a RNS-510 with the Skoda/VW premium carkit. If anyone is able to shed some light on this and what possible fixes could be, I'd really like to hear!
I have been looking (and mailed) if a fiscon unit could potentionaly fix this problem. They also have units which intergrate with the system.
But I'd rather find a software solution, obviously. Sadly enough, manny cases can be found where people have problems, often, with no solution. This problems is *NOT* specefic to the Xperia, I do realize that now, since the new ROM, rSAP is working just fine.
more complex then ever....
Okay, things just more complex then ever before.
My x1 using a HTC touch HD rom base and rSAP from HTC (default in rom).
KPN sim = works and can call
Vodaphone sim = logs in but carkit crashes on trying to connect to cell towers. But car connection functions.
T-mobile sim = connection to carkit never gets finished.
I'm totally lost. Using a friends N95, all the sims work flawlessly.... which makes me even more clueless, because the carkit reads the sim data and then connects using it's own radio to the cell network.
Please, advice? How can this be fixed? Is there a different version of the HTC rSAP software available maybe?
The plot thickens again.
Using my sim card in my X1, not working. Original ROM, Original ROM + rSAP extensions, cooked rom from touch HD with native rSAP. Just non-functional.
Using the exact same phone, without the t-mobile sim but with the KPN sim, works perfectly, no problems what so ever.
Using an older Nokia E50, both sims work flawlessly, also my t-mobile sim.
This leads me to one conclusion and that is that the HTC rSAP implementation is seriously bugged.
Anyone have any idea on how to proceed? Somewhere I have read that the HTC's wouldn't handle 3G or UMTS sims and only use older ones. But, using the KPN sim I connect to 3G and it works. Also the nokia E50 of N95 can use any network and it just plain works. There for that statement is wrong in my opinion and it is caused by buggy software of HTC.
Anyone have a good idea on how to proceed? Lots of people having this problem and buying nokia's, but for no real reason other then buggy software it seems.
I really like my X1, and payed a lot of money for it, so I really need this to start working.... Please assist and help, also people with a diamond or other HTC, using the same software.
sadly enough, no progress
Did some tests again today, but sadly enough, no progress yet.
I'm going to try and get a hold of a Touch Diamond and a Touch HD and see how those preform with my sim. If my suspiciouns are correct, they will also fail, making this a combination of bad software with bugs with certain sim's.
That is the conclusion I am faced with right now... sadly enough, no idea how this can be remedied.
Are there developers whom might be able to write a reliable rsap implementation or will HTC ever come with a working version?
What do you guys think?
Sonyericsson will not provide SAP for the Xperia. Thats the point....
Been in contact with support
I have been in contact with Sony-Ericsson support and they tell me they cannot make the X1 compatible, because it is not just software.
Off course, to me this sound like total bull****, seeying I have allready had an raap connection with the X1. But this was either using HTC software add-on's or using a rom that was based on the htc touch HD.
Sadly enough, I cannot work without this functionality... and thus will be forced to sell my phone and buy... a nokia.... not bad, since I have had nokia's all my life. But I really really do not eNjoy beying forced to do so.
But everybody has known that the xperia has no SAP Profile... in every test, in every Datasheet you can see it! Why you buyed an xperia?
Wrong order
I orderd the x1 around the same time I orderd my new car (Skoda Superb II 2.0 TDI Ambition Business line ).
The car came with a carkit that can only do rSAP, but it is very very nicely intergrated with a external antenna, full adress book acces, etc. etc.
To my amazement, there was no rSAP on the phone, while all current high end models do carry support for it. Thus thought that a simple program or rom fix would provide it.... sadly enough, while some stuff works, it is very very flaky.
So it's a combination issue, off course I realize that. But I'd rather replace my phone and sell the x1, then having to change the carkit piece in my car (it is far more expensive). And still, I just cannot believe that such a basic function, is not in there.
Especially because it is made by HTC, which do carry this functionality!
So the problem was created by having both products in the same time frame. And my reluctance to believe such a high end phone would not carry this protocol.
From closer reading though. It seems that the x1 (with a custom rom) is not at fault here. If my speculations are right, any htc device with rsap from factory even has a big change that it is not going to function. Also reflected by my tests.
Using a HTC touch HD based rom on the X1, rsap is added and functions brilliantly using a KPN sim. Vodaphone works sometimes and crashes the carkit now and then and using a t-mobile sim, it does not work, at all. Since I have a t-mobile business account... it doesn't work at all for me.
I have not been able to get a hold of a Touch HD or Touch Pro to test if these problems also form on that phone, but will do so when I get the change.
So for now, even the HTC software seems to be bugged and thus I have formed my conclusion that my best option is to go back to nokia (which I have used for about 10 years now). The x1 is great, but not beying able to call in the car.... that just isn't going to work for me.
The new N97 looks pretty decent....
I have a jetta 06 tdi with mfd2(dvd version rev c) and skoda (kufatec) bluetooth modul installed by myself. I can do a Synchronisation of the Phonebook with Names and Numbers , dialed and missed calls , incomming calls with Names and i have a option to accept or decline a Call from the fis display , using my Multifunction Steering Wheel. Everything working perfect with my Xperia x1i.
Hmm
Most likely that module is a fiscon module or an older part of skoda. Am I correct?
The fiscon does not use rsap and older premium carkits from VW also did not. But their newest carkits included in the passat CC and skoda superb II are rsap only.
Quindor said:
Most likely that module is a fiscon module or an older part of skoda. Am I correct?
The fiscon does not use rsap and older premium carkits from VW also did not. But their newest carkits included in the passat CC and skoda superb II are rsap only.
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Im not sure we can post a direct link here to another website , but there is what im using in my Jetta : http://www.kufatec.de/shop/product_....html/XTCsid/9f268df051bdc7806c7825cc426d606c
Old Version
Ah, yes. That is an orginal skoda part, but it is the older version from the Superb I and not the Superb II. That uses the other profiles and not rSAP.
touch HD behaves just the same
Hi everybody.
I had the chance to test both X1 (rSAP from cabs in post #3, thanks by the way) and HD (native rSAP implementation) on a VW touareg premium car kit and I must say they suffer from the same problems: most of the time the connection is established, but immediately drops and enters an endless loop of connection/disconnection, where everything can happen: car kit crashes, phone crashes, vodafone goes bankrupt, etc.
What hurts the most, though, is that very rarely and randomly, the connection with X1 is firmly established and everything, for unknown reasons, starts to work fine. This drives me crazy, for it would be a lot easier to cope if the feature wasn't available full stop.
Nonetheless, this makes me think a solution must exist somewhere, but I'm too much of a noob to find it...
Hope this helps, byebye.
Hi guys,
i recently received my iTech R35 A2DP Bluetooth Headset for my Touch HD which is identical to HTC BH S100 since its only rebranded.
Pairing, controls and everything works fine, but when playing music the connection constantly gets lost for short terms regardless of the distance between the phone and the Headset.
The weird thing about it is, that the headset works perfectly with my friends HD. He even could go away like 10m without any kind of interruption.
I already tried some different settings with HD Tweak but no improvement.
Besides I noticed that overall bluetooth performance with my phone, as it once took about 30 minutes to send a 50MB file, isn't that good.
Thanks for any help!
Update:
I tested the Headset today with two other phones (SE W950i and some Nokia). It worked perfectly so I figure something has to be wrong with my phone. I'll perform a hard reset on the weekend and see if it changes anything. Otherwise I'll have to contact the customer service.
Has anybody here experience with german support. If I had to send the phone in, how does it usually take til u get your phone back?
Well, I just performed the hard reset and it solved the issue. Very strange since I hadn't installed that much programs.
Well, the problem returned and I now figured it out in detail.
There's no correlation with the programs installed.
Once the Bluetooth headset is in the Bluetooth-Device-List as it was connected before the constant lags are there.
If I delete it and re-pair the headset the lags are gone for this one time until the headset got disconnected. Even if I get out of range and return in reach connection is crappy from then on.
Didn't anybody recognize such a strange behaviour too?
I have a similar issue with my Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800 phones.
I thought I'd solved it by re-pairing with the handset, and initially that pairing seemed to last for a while, but now it seems I have to re-pair at least once a day to avoid the stuttering (it's really bad, isn't it?)
Frankly, I'm getting pretty disenchanted with my HD. Every time I discover a tweak which sorts an issue, another issue raises its head. I've lost count of the many hours I've spent trrying to get it to work as it ought to.
Wishing I'd got an iPhone. Okay it's not as good on paper, but at least everything works....
I have to agree the bluetooth is dodgy for me at the best of times in trying to connect to any computer.
Surprisingly, Ive had a good file transfer between my HD and MaxOSX, I can't say the same for Windows XP or Vista where on both accounts it has failed to connect via bluetooth to perform an active sync.
Petee said:
I have a similar issue with my Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800 phones.
I thought I'd solved it by re-pairing with the handset, and initially that pairing seemed to last for a while, but now it seems I have to re-pair at least once a day to avoid the stuttering (it's really bad, isn't it?)
Frankly, I'm getting pretty disenchanted with my HD. Every time I discover a tweak which sorts an issue, another issue raises its head. I've lost count of the many hours I've spent trrying to get it to work as it ought to.
Wishing I'd got an iPhone. Okay it's not as good on paper, but at least everything works....
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Thanks for your information. At least I'm not the only one with this issue.
Meanwhile I tested this behaviour with my buddies HD and it's the same pattern with his one.
I contacted german support today and will report after their answer.
i've been having the exact same problems with my hd. i would be able to pair it with my landrover, but then the connection would be lost. (there's another thread on this somewhere).
anyway, i tried installing BTRestore and BTRestart along with Mortscript and a custom script to help keep the bluetooth active. however, my problem was not that the bluetooth was turning off, but that the connection would not stay active.
so i installed a custom rom, Dutty's version 1.7, and also installed jetware bluetooth program (www.jetwaremobile.com); so far so good (*fingers crossed*). this is my 3rd day and the bluetooth works great. the phone connects with the car instantly, my phonebook works and i can make and receive calls without losing the connection.
so maybe updating the rom will help you too.
Sorry, it's been a while since HTC answered my questions but since their answer was quite disappointing I had no rush to post it.
Summarized they told me the HTC BH S100 was not compatible with the Touch HD even though I pointed out that it's in compatibility-list of the Diamond and both are running the same Chipset and OS and that it works fine after the first pairing.
As I'm tired of reconfiguring my phone I'll wait some time to flash another ROM. I hope WM 6.5 will be released soon and fix this problem, too.
Hi,
hopefully anyone has an answer to the strange bluetooth behaviour of my X1.
The first device is a bluetooth headset from Sony. It works good, if bluetooth is activated. But after some time of not using the headset, the phone just switches off bluetooth. Sometimes after a few minutes, sometimes days after my last use of the headset. I tried all settings of the bluetooth-settings with no change. And it sucks if with the next phone call the headset cannot connect anymore because bluetooth was switched off.
The second device is a GNS TrafficBox Plus FM9BT-Y. Somehow MN7 does not detect the device directly, so I have to use the workaround with the serial port and outgoing connection on COM1.
The initial minutes the connection works fine, but then stops and is not restored.
Here as well trying different settings changed nothing.
How can I find out the address of the bluetooth devices?
Is there a tool to further test bluetooth connections (like what speed can be used, the address of the device, etc)
Regards
pt
Im using Itjes Touch 7 final & i have the same problem - infact i've had it with the last 3 of his roms with my blutooth to SEAT car. I'll be on a call in my car & it switches the blutooth off without warning. generally after about 10 minutes of actual call time. But it doesnt disconnect unless during a call ? There is no rhyme or reason to it, it just sometimes happens?
So any further info will be appreciated
Im using Itjes Touch 7 final & i have the same problem - infact i've had it with the last 3 of his roms with my blutooth to SEAT car. I'll be on a call in my car & it switches the blutooth off without warning. generally after about 10 minutes of actual call time. But it doesnt disconnect unless during a call ? There is no rhyme or reason to it, it just sometimes happens?
So any further info will be appreciated
I have Ra2generic DE with the 1.10 radio ROM on it.
At the beginning it was fantastic not having the bluetooth issue. Everything was working so extremely goood... no switching off, no disconnecting of and from the bt headset,, etc...
After a while the issue was here again...damn! So the bt became not very useful in its functionalities.... then I saw that it was not possible to see through my bt freespeech device in the car the last calls on the phone... hm, ok I said. There were lot of calls (incoming, outgoing, missed, etc) on the list...I erased them all...
Now it is working in a perfect way.... no disconnecting, no switching off..and this with the stock ROM and Radio ROM.
I tried it a few months before posting it here... now I'm cleaning up my calling list every 2nd day (I really call a lot) and I have no problems..
Hope it works for you..
i have the same problem, the bluetooth disconect without any reason, i have tried more than 10 Roms and i dont have any solution
¿is so dificult for Sony to repare this problem?
zagito said:
There were lot of calls (incoming, outgoing, missed, etc) on the list...I erased them all...
Now it is working in a perfect way.... no disconnecting, no switching off..and this with the stock ROM and Radio ROM.
I tried it a few months before posting it here... now I'm cleaning up my calling list every 2nd day (I really call a lot) and I have no problems..
Hope it works for you..
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I hardreseted the device, installed the newest official firmware, deleted the calling list and with great expectations checked bluetooth behaviour.....nothing changed for me
But great it works for you and thanks for the tip
Come on people..... please someone help us with this
Bluetooth with clarion mind
Am having trouble connecting with my new Clarion MIND - is seems the phone does not see the profiles (very similar to the phone adding the older SE Bluetooth Watch, the 100). Has anyone built a .cab to sort this out?
I have a problem where my HD2 does not work properly with my Land Rover Freelander 2 in-built bluetooth car kit.
The HD2 pairs with the car and I can search my phone book, see my last dialled number, I can even dial a number, BUT, the phone does not connect properly - the car radio should cut out and phone audio come through the car speakers, but instead the radio just continues to play. And shortly after the call is connected to the other party the line is terminated.
My Nokia phone works perfectly with my car, but this phone does not. Even my Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 did not for properly with the Freelander 2.
I did manage to make one successful call, but after I stopped and restarted the car, the problem returned!! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
So, does any one know of a fix? Surely hands free/car kit is a standard?
Help!
same problem here. i have a bluetooth car stereo. Always worked fine with my previous HTC's. But now with the HD2 i get the exact same problems as you... I think it's software bug. i have rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD
i hope this gets sorted out cause i use bluetooth audio streaming a lot in the car....same for handsfree calling
Paired it with my Pioneer FH-P80BT on my way to sell my 3GS and recieved a call. Got the same issue as described above - just a bug i presume.
I'm experiancing similar problems. All works fine (incoming call's or outgoing call's) but they get disconnected randomly it seems. I'm using a JVX NX7000 by the way. No problem with my iPhone. Hope they fix it soon!
I tested it with my BMW Idrive last night which is notoriously difficult and it worked fine, I was really surprised tbh! But was able to recieve and make calls, the stereo cut out and could see the phone book too. With my N82 i was only ever able to make/receive calls.
Same problem - Jaguar XF - it docks ok but I have to initiate calls from car (vs phone). Just some weirdness going on...
glenner05 said:
same problem here. i have a bluetooth car stereo. Always worked fine with my previous HTC's. But now with the HD2 i get the exact same problems as you... I think it's software bug. i have rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD
i hope this gets sorted out cause i use bluetooth audio streaming a lot in the car....same for handsfree calling
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Mercedes brutality
I have a new Mercedes C, and when the HD2 is connected over bluetooth I get an extremely loud, strange ringtone when receiving a call. It is so loud it could really make your shoes go off.
Also it is none of the ringtones available to choose from, inside the phone - it sounds more like a BIOS beep from a PC and hits me while the normal ringtone is playing as well.
It definitely comes from the phone, not from the car stereo. I have not figured out how to resolve this, I think it is outright dangerous for unprepared drivers.
I have a Nissan Pathfinder; it paired ok, and dials from the Pathy without probs. Ringtone is ok too. Sound quality seems better than my old Tytn so all in all v happy.
Doesn't stream music, but that's Nissan's fault, not HTC.
Works fine with the Ford BT system in the Ford Focus (2009).
HTC HD2 Pairing with a Freelander 2 - SUCESS!!!
Success!!!
So far so good, I applied a known change to the HD2 registry and I am now making and answering calls without fuss!
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
Hope this helps everyone.
graemenwallace said:
Success!!!
So far so good, I applied a known change to the HD2 registry and I am now making and answering calls without fuss!
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
Hope this helps everyone.
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Hello i have same problem with my BMW X5. Can you explain better your steps ?
graemenwallace said:
Success!!!
So far so good, I applied a known change to the HD2 registry and I am now making and answering calls without fuss!
Change Registry setting:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys
Add the DWORD setting COD=5374476
This makes devices see the HD2 as a 'Normal' phone.
Hope this helps everyone.
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Interesting, I have a similar problem with my 2009 BMW 3 I explain here (sorry I posted before discovering this thread) and I'll try your registry tweak.
But you say that it is "a known change" to the HD2, could you tell us where you saw it ? Is there another discussion about the BT stack somewhere or more generaly about the Widcomm implementation in the HD2 ?
The HD2 being so recent and in short supply, I'm a bit surprised something like that is "well known"
Thanks for your help.
It works !
graemenwallace, I just tried after applying your tweak and... OMG, this is AWSOME man, it just WORKS !
I still just have one gripe though, it seems that the car doesn't always receive the RF level correctly at the first connection. Sometimes it sees the phone as having no carrier at all (no bars in the RX level display), preventing the car to make any calls, but as soon as I receive a call, the level resets to full bars and I can pick the call and make calls myself after that.
When the first call comes in, I can see the display with no bars and a "?" appearing on top of it for a short time before it becomes full bars.
So there is still some compatibility problems, but at least now I can pick-up incoming calls without risking my life.
So I suppose you are a potential life saver then
Thanks mate,
Yves.
Bluetooth is working YES with JVC KD-AVX44 ADV49
After the registry tweak from graemenwallace the bluetooth connection is working properly with my car radio (JVC KD-AVX44/KD-ADV49).
The phone functions ok now (incoming & outgoing calls) Also the AD2P connection is super (very good sound)
Also the ID3 tags are functioning (didn't function with the X1 Xperia)
I see the track title now into the JVC display
Skipping etc. all is functioning. I will tell HTC about it because I have a ticket running for this issue. I think they have to solve this issue
Big thanks for this trick
By doing a little search on the net, it seems like graemenwallace suggested that this problem is not new with smartphones that identify themselves as such.
The tweak above forces the BT stack of the phone to identify itself as a standard phone instead of a smartphone.
What's puzzling is that my BMW handsfree worked with other smartphones so far, including the iphone.
Anyway, it's ok now, but I wonder what bad press this will cause to HTC.
The majority of the users are unaware of this kind of wizardry and this justs adds up to the long list of bugs of the HD2.
When I first got the phone a few days ago I was rapidly convinced to return it immediatly as it's fancy interface wasn't enough to overcome all the shortcomings. It was plain unusable as a business phone.
Now after applying most of the tweaks, it begins to show potential, but HTC really has to work on the problems we can't fix by tweaking the registry.
I tried this also, but for me it didn't work.
But my situation is a bit different, as I am not able to connect the HD2 through the Sim Access Profile with my car, which is an Audi A6 mit Bluetooth preparation and I have also the Audi rSAP Adaptor installed in the centre arm rest.
My problem is, that I get a connection to the car, but SAP does not activate and I can't get access to my phonebook - so I only have kind of a handsfree profile...
Am I right that you all use the handsfree profile in your cars and no SAP?
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Works fine with the Ford BT system in the Ford Focus (2009).
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Does your Ford system have the Bluetooth audio choice?
I get my Ford Focus changed every six months coz i'm a driving instructor and it comes as part of the deal.
On my last Ford Focus my htc tytn 2 connected ok and I could make and receive calls ok.
However, when the new car was delivered the Ford system had bluetooth audio choice and ipod integration which the other one didn't.
Now my htc tytn 2 didn't connect very well at all.
Now with my HD2 it does connect only if I have the bluetooth audio profile selected.
But now the music player keeps appearing and wants to play music all the time. If I pause the music on the phone it just starts replaying.
Anyway I will try the registry tweak in this thread and hopefully that will solve the problem.
Paul.
Jolig said:
I tried this also, but for me it didn't work.
But my situation is a bit different, as I am not able to connect the HD2 through the Sim Access Profile with my car, which is an Audi A6 mit Bluetooth preparation and I have also the Audi rSAP Adaptor installed in the centre arm rest.
My problem is, that I get a connection to the car, but SAP does not activate and I can't get access to my phonebook - so I only have kind of a handsfree profile...
Am I right that you all use the handsfree profile in your cars and no SAP?
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I have the same problem. I`ll try to pair my HD2 with MB C-klass using SAP but i can`t get them connected it seems like a SAP adaptor can`t activate a PIN input window on HD2 (i guess). With other phones it works perfect (tryed with Nokia 5800, 6500).
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I have a new Mercedes C, and when the HD2 is connected over bluetooth I get an extremely loud, strange ringtone when receiving a call. It is so loud it could really make your shoes go off.
Also it is none of the ringtones available to choose from, inside the phone - it sounds more like a BIOS beep from a PC and hits me while the normal ringtone is playing as well.
It definitely comes from the phone, not from the car stereo. I have not figured out how to resolve this, I think it is outright dangerous for unprepared drivers.
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could you pls describe, how did get them paired? when i try to pair them, i see the device`s id, try to "call" it, see pin code and after that i hear the descending tone. and it nothing occurs. SAP is enabled, device is discoverable, what else? Any idea?
Jolig said:
I tried this also, but for me it didn't work.
But my situation is a bit different, as I am not able to connect the HD2 through the Sim Access Profile with my car, which is an Audi A6 mit Bluetooth preparation and I have also the Audi rSAP Adaptor installed in the centre arm rest.
My problem is, that I get a connection to the car, but SAP does not activate and I can't get access to my phonebook - so I only have kind of a handsfree profile...
Am I right that you all use the handsfree profile in your cars and no SAP?
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I feel your pain, my wife has a GolfPlus and the rSAP instalation is crap.
It's overly expensive and useless if you don't have one of the few phones compatible with it.
Unfortunately, many customers are falling in this trap, thinking it is a standard handsfree, but it is not, it is a full GSM build-in which only access your phone SIM card to log into the network and download your contacts.
In the case of my wife, the dealer was honest and clearly stated that it was a mistake to order this option.
The only problem is that he had no other alternative than proposing an Parrot retrofit which wasn't really an option for me as it wasn't integrated in the car and certainly not in the navigation system.
But internet is your friend and the solution is quite simple, the Kufatec kit.
This is brilliant, it is a small box that connects to the CAN bus of many german cars and integrates perfectly into existing navigators, it uses the steering wheels command buttons and so on.
It is much better (more functions) than original BT options, is tailored to each brand so that the displays are in the same style as the original ones etc.
More interesting, it is field upgradable (just a laptop with BT) so that it is potentialy compatible with anything existing or not yet.
And it only costs a fraction of this crappy rSAP option.
In your case, the good news is that it can simply replace your actual rSAP kit for a minimal installation fee. (the CAN bus has to be reprogramed however, so professional instalation needed)
There is another solution: to replace the unit you have (it is situated under the driver's seat) by a skoda unit. This unit has the same connector but is simple handsfree instead of rSAP.
Hope this helps.
Hi
I have a BMW X5 and a HTC HD2 with the newest ROM. When I enter the car, HD2 is recognised automatically by the car and I can place phonecalls dialing from my HD2. The only thing that does not work is that BMW tries to upload my phonebook from the phone but it does not get it. BMW says "please wait" - forever.
Before I flashed the ROM, this worked. Anyone has any ideas? I would even pay for someone in Zurich who comes and fixes this. One thing I could do of course is to downgrade my ROM again. But before I do this, I want to explore any other options.
Thanks a lot!
PS: jetwaremobile.com definately does NOT work on HD2
I have exactly the same issue. The HTC HD2 works ok for calls etc but the phone book upload is "please wait" forever. Very annoying. I have the standard up to date ROM and BMW X5 2009 model. Any help would be great.
Thanks
mrickenbach said:
Hi
I have a BMW X5 and a HTC HD2 with the newest ROM. When I enter the car, HD2 is recognised automatically by the car and I can place phonecalls dialing from my HD2. The only thing that does not work is that BMW tries to upload my phonebook from the phone but it does not get it. BMW says "please wait" - forever.
Before I flashed the ROM, this worked. Anyone has any ideas? I would even pay for someone in Zurich who comes and fixes this. One thing I could do of course is to downgrade my ROM again. But before I do this, I want to explore any other options.
Thanks a lot!
PS: jetwaremobile.com definately does NOT work on HD2
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So any ideas? Now we are already two you can make happy! Thanks
Hey..
I don't have a BMW neither a bluetooth radio BUT i somewhere read in this forum, that there is a fix, to let the hd2 be recognized as normal phone
I know I'm not that much help , but I hope u can find the thread here good luck =)
HD2_Noob said:
Hey..
I don't have a BMW neither a bluetooth radio BUT i somewhere read in this forum, that there is a fix, to let the hd2 be recognized as normal phone
I know I'm not that much help , but I hope u can find the thread here good luck =)
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I have a 2008 BMW, and I did experience this the first time..I sat there waiting for a few mins adn then got bored...but after I had turned the car off, been away and come back..it transferred straightaway.
Funnily enough, when I had my iphone (yes..sorry) I had the little image of the phone next to the BT signal on the display. I don't get this straight away with the HD2, but it always eventually appears..and then stays there until I hard reset my phone and do a ROM upgrade and then start the pairing again..where I just get the BT signal...then randomly..a few weeks later, the phone image appears again....very odd
Works fine here with a BMW 5x from 2008.. Using miris 6.5.x ROM
Funnily enough, when I had my iphone (yes..sorry) I had the little image of the phone next to the BT signal on the display. I don't get this straight away with the HD2, but it always eventually appears..and then stays there until I hard reset my phone and do a ROM upgrade and then start the pairing again..where I just get the BT signal...then randomly..a few weeks later, the phone image appears again....very odd
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Hi, I also have a 2008 BMW (E93) and I do see the phone logo. It also syncs about 250 of my >3000 contacts. With my TyTN2 I used "Jetware Mobile" to sync just one dedicated category. But that doesn't work anymore with MinMo 6.5
schrej said:
Hi, I also have a 2008 BMW (E93) and I do see the phone logo. It also syncs about 250 of my >3000 contacts. With my TyTN2 I used "Jetware Mobile" to sync just one dedicated category. But that doesn't work anymore with MinMo 6.5
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oh yes it does!
in fact, this is the only thing that works in Jetware with WM 6.5 - nothing else works in my case
i have a 2005 X5
bmw
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
zipolly said:
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
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Which ROM do you use 1.66? or earlier? With my earlier ROM I had no problems, but since I upgraded to 1.66 (German), the phonebook does not transfer...
Bluetooth auto control problem
I can’t control my bluetooth (on/off) when using Inesoft phone profiles/controls; I have also tried other programs but no success(in another program the window of bluetooth was disabled); through all programs, I could control phone, WIFI, and gprs but not the Bluetooth. The only way to turn the Bluetooth on/ off is the Comm Manager (Manually); could anyone help please. Thanks
2006 bmw
I use the latest 1.66 wwe rom off t he htc website with no problems at all .
zipolly said:
I use the latest 1.66 wwe rom off t he htc website with no problems at all .
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thank you, I am glad it worked for you...you must have a newer generation ULF than me then.
Is your phone HD2? mine is Toshiba TG01..I have managed to make it work 50/50 of the times, but I do not know WHAT CHANGES are between it working and not working...it is very frustating to know (and experience it working) that it can/should work, but not being able to
I have a new HTC Mini HD and have the same problems with my 2009 BMW 3. BT Headset function works just fine, but iDrive keeps trying to sync the telephone book, unsuccesfull. Instead, my phone's battery gets drained. Anyone any sollutions?
Unfortunately I don't have an answer for your question, but it sounds like it might have something to do with the bluetooth stack used for that ROM/Radio not being recognized by the car. Perhaps the layer that deals with data transfer is removed. Sorry I can't be of more help here.
What I can do to help is to offer a warning. I am a former BMW Client Advisor, and have been told many, many times by service technicians that using phones which are not specifically approved by BMW can affect your car's ECU (brain) and if it needs to be repaired or replaced, it will not be covered under warranty. That could be just nonsense to force you into buying only phones which BMW has tested (or vendors have paid for a marketing fee), or it might be spot on, in which case you run a pretty big risk.
Hope this helps.
OK, problem solved. BMW updated my carsoftware to its newest version last week and now my HD2 works perfectly with my car (again). I can make calls AND my phonebook is synced as well.
Hint1: Try if your phonebook sync problem exists with the SIM contacts as well as with the phone contacts
Hint 2: worldwideweb.bmw.com/com/de/owners/navigation/bluetooth/compatibility_check_intro.html
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oh yes it does!
in fact, this is the only thing that works in Jetware with WM 6.5 - nothing else works in my case
i have a 2005 X5
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i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
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Hi All,
I have a BMW X5 2005 model. I can pair the phone OK but it constantly disconnects and reconnects once the transfer of the phonebook occurs. The phonebook transfers always start from scratch when this happens and nothing gets loaded to the car's phonebook.
If a call comes in, or if I make a call while it is connected (like within 5 seconds) the phone stays connected for the duration of the call.
I have tried all the Regisrty tweaks and none change the behaviour.
I also read it is because the HD2 uses Widcomm BT stack and not the MS BT Stack.
Zippolly and a_petrov303 and all those that have it working, can you please tell me which Rom you are using? I am using the latest Energy's 6.5.x rom. i noticed someone mentioned Miri's 6.5.x Rom works.
Thanks,
Rob
I have a 07 E60. The HD2 pairs fine, synchs contacts fine, but the sound quality is so bad it's not useable. Of course bmw says it's not a compatible phone, but I think there is a problem with the car as my Diamond won't find it, even though it is supposed to be supported
its mainly due to the car bluetooth, BMW etc don't make the car kit mostly siemens do and they are slow on the uptake of doing updates.
anybody found a snap-in for the hd2 yet?
I have a 7-series F01 and it is really annoying to have to deal with that usb cable...
Ontopic
I had the BT problem too, deleting the profile and repairing the phone did the trick for me...