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Battery\power consumption issue

hi, i am having a bit of a problem, i have searched the forums but could not find much relevant. my X1's battery is really struggling.
On one occasion i managed to get 22 hours out of it, but the average is between 9 and 12. I lock my keypad and turn the backilight off when its in my pocket, i have it set to update rss and e-mails every 4 hours, i downloaded an app that switches the modem connection off after 1 mins idle time, i never use wifi and i haven't even been making any calls, and dont use any apps, ie games ect. i send a few sms, and after 9 hours away from a power supply, my hungry beast is down to 10% battery. i can not work out where my power is going. as i said i have searched the forums, and my phones settings, but can not find anything to help. if there are threads with answers please link me to them, or if you can help, please tell me
1) are there any power management apps that i can download to monitor and control the power usage
2) is there anyway to prevent the modem auto connecting whenever it finds an Edge\Gprs|hsdpa\whatever signal, as i am convinced this is the main culprit. even with rss\email updates switched off, the phone is ever connecting to the network
3) how are people who claim to be getting 24 hours+ with extensive browsing, calling, gps'ing and wi-fi'ing actually achieving this
4) would the rom firmware update help with my problem
(apologies, the question mark key on my laptop has returned to the big keyboard in the sky!)
any help anyone can provide would be much appreciated, as i am afraid to use the awesome features my phone has, for fear it will die.
thanks a lot

Have you got any shell applications runinng (TouchFlo, full SPB)?
Else sounds like your battery is fooked.

Weird
Well, how long have you had it? In my first week I was getting about the same, but now in my second week it's improving with charge/discharge cycles.
I don't use data connections but use Wifi/BT quite a bit and listening to music and it will last a day now.

Trying using just edge and lower your screen brightness to 20-30% when you use it.

I had a similar problem when I updated to the R2 ROM and installed some applications... primarily AEButton plus and S2U2 (although I believe it was AEButton that was the culprit here...), I would get 13 hours or so before the phone went down to 30% from full charge... I uninstalled both programs and then got 84 hours with moderate use (lots of sms, few mb internet and a few calls (about an hours worth)... so I am wondering if you have either of these installed or if its an app that is causing the problem... (I now have AEButton 2.6.6 installed and after 6 hours its only dropped 10% with quite a bit of internet use (mainly edge) and a few sms's)...

Shadowdh said:
I had a similar problem when I updated to the R2 ROM and installed some applications... primarily AEButton plus and S2U2 (although I believe it was AEButton that was the culprit here...), I would get 13 hours or so before the phone went down to 30% from full charge... I uninstalled both programs and then got 84 hours with moderate use (lots of sms, few mb internet and a few calls (about an hours worth)... so I am wondering if you have either of these installed or if its an app that is causing the problem... (I now have AEButton 2.6.6 installed and after 6 hours its only dropped 10% with quite a bit of internet use (mainly edge) and a few sms's)...
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I've tried S2U2. And as I've stated in another thread, it is indeed a battery drainer.

dogans said:
I've tried S2U2. And as I've stated in another thread, it is indeed a battery drainer.
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That's not true at all. Just activate the energy saving option.
My battery lasts for 5 days now, longer than ever before. Cannot say if it's the effort of S2U2, but it's definitely not draining faster than without it.

skycamefalling said:
That's not true at all. Just activate the energy saving option.
My battery lasts for 5 days now, longer than ever before. Cannot say if it's the effort of S2U2, but it's definitely not draining faster than without it.
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Energy saving option?
EDIT: Just found out I'm running a really old version. Updating

had the phone for about 3 weeks now, tried charging and draining it a few times, still on the vanilla ROM, and i did have one of the interfaces installed (cant remember what it was called, not touch flo though) but i removed it. i hope the battery is not tits, but how can i test. i will try the brightness\edge only thing, so as for my 4 questions, no answers then(question mark)
thanks for the advice!

Guys,
I have installed SPB Phone Plus, Inesoft software and digital clock on my X1, do you mean that it will consume more battery power with these programs installed?
I notice that my X1 now only last a day while before the R2AA upgrade, it can at least last me 2 days.

Mine had the same problem during the first week or so. Now i can leave it 12 hours without charging and if i don't touch it, the battery stays at the same level.

eh, how come u all battery so fast flat 1??
mine can stay for almost 1 day.. listen to music always.. always connected to HSDPA/3G/EDGE/GPRS... listen music through wired, play game little while.. no wifi..
in da morning 7am, full... go skool, listen music whereever i can.. surf net.. then come bak to home at 6.. is got around 4bar of "power" settings ther..

I've also had a problem with my battery. It wouldn't last through the night. I installed a process monitor this morning and I suspect the culprit is S2U2 v1.37. I've just updated it to v1.45 and I'm about to test again.
For those using this version what settings do I need to enable Power Save? Is it just the registry entry or should I be changing something else in the settings?

I had been worried about the battery before I bought my X1 and I ran across a WM 'bug' which could be the problem (I'm sorry, I don't have the source because it was a while ago and I was just browsing before I bought).
It said that when WM runs for the first time it presumes full battery power and so will charge to whatever level the battery is at at the time and no higher.
Some people resolved this by either:
1) Charging when the device is off to increase the maximum charge
2) Hard resetting the device and fully charging before the first switch on.
I have to say, I use 1 hour of video, 15-30 minutes calls, 10-20 texts, 30 min web browsing, email/weather etc updates every 2 hours, 30 minutes 'bumming about' (games, file copying, tweaking) every day and get at least 2 days of use.
Overnight, (ie when not being used and for 8 hours) I have never dropped a bar of power.
I do not run any additional programs in the background, apart from the spb panel.
crabby

Ruudfood said:
I've also had a problem with my battery. It wouldn't last through the night. I installed a process monitor this morning and I suspect the culprit is S2U2 v1.37. I've just updated it to v1.45 and I'm about to test again.
For those using this version what settings do I need to enable Power Save? Is it just the registry entry or should I be changing something else in the settings?
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Well I tested this and I can confirm that v1.45 of S2U2 does indeed save power. My battery was 90% last night and was the same this morning.

Ruudfood said:
Well I tested this and I can confirm that v1.45 of S2U2 does indeed save power. My battery was 90% last night and was the same this morning.
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the power save in s2u2 is quite annoying isn't it? i had that on and when im listening to music through the media xperience panel, it just goes to lock the device (when the idle time is up) and stop the music. Its annoying as hell.
Plus whenever im watching videos (still with the panel), it just lock the device again.
Thats it, no s2u2 for me. Uninstalled it right after that

i had the same problem until i installed a cooked rom on it....now i get about 3-4 days....i recently tried installing a few different ones and the battery life fell again....but thry installing this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458768

Shadowdh said:
I had a similar problem when I updated to the R2 ROM and installed some applications... primarily AEButton plus and S2U2 (although I believe it was AEButton that was the culprit here...), I would get 13 hours or so before the phone went down to 30% from full charge... I uninstalled both programs and then got 84 hours with moderate use (lots of sms, few mb internet and a few calls (about an hours worth)... so I am wondering if you have either of these installed or if its an app that is causing the problem... (I now have AEButton 2.6.6 installed and after 6 hours its only dropped 10% with quite a bit of internet use (mainly edge) and a few sms's)...
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Sorry, what program is S2U2? Where to download?

When I just got my phone back in November last year, my battery kept draining quite fast (empty within about 15 hours). By now even though I still use it as much as back then, the battery easily last twice as long if not thrice as long. I now manage to have it last for more then 2 days.

I notice power drain when I had SPB phone software installed and also after alarm go off in G-Alarm. With the spb phone, i think it's because of the repeating reminders option, didn’t really tested out, just uninstalled and X1 hold battery pretty well.
In the F-Alarm, after alarm went off it, seemed like only display did turned off and the device didn’t really suspended\turned off. And the battery could drop about 10% within a few hours. Soft reset stopped enormous consumption…
That’s my experience for now, hope helps someone..

How long does your X1 battery last?

Guys,
just bought my X1i last week. One of the my reason to buy this phone, because some "people" said that the battery can last up to 4 days on regular use.
So I'm just curious about how long does your X1 battery last. Mine, it can barely last 2 days, most of the time, I have to charge it everyday, so I can use the phone for the next day.
Please post your answers below and also mention the rom you used at this moment. Just want to know, if there is any correlation between versions of rom used and battery life. I used stock generic UK R3A.
Also if anyone knows how to save your X1 battery, please also post it below...
Thanx and regards,
liemivan

i have touchx 10.2 and if i dont use internet just normal stuff it last 5 days... if i start using wifi/edge about 2 days...

I'm havin the same problem. Battery just lasts one day. I turn off the internet by turning off the data connection switch in com manager but still no dice. Is there a battery checker to see if u have a bad battery?

I used to charge my X1 every day, at least every second (when I didn't use it that much).
But since I did the Biotouch.exe trick, I'm able to run about 3-4 days with "normal" usage (most time online, permanent checking mails, etc).
Just search for the thread Biotuch.exe. It's about 3 pages back.

R3, 5 days in standby @ home, using it to call during about 10' per day. Otherwise @ work (phone 20 - 30' per day, and 15 - 20' surfing on the web by UMTS) 3 days then I charge it as I am at 20 percent.
Beware of the UMTS coverage, if the coverage is not excellent, you'll use your battery very quick (so if no 3G used, set is as GSM instead of Auto in Phone - Settings - Band).
Pay attention to the software you install, it can change from 3 days to a simple day if the software is not optimized (for example it's a nightmare with SPB Mobile Shell 3).

TheNicoT said:
I used to charge my X1 every day, at least every second (when I didn't use it that much).
But since I did the Biotouch.exe trick, I'm able to run about 3-4 days with "normal" usage (most time online, permanent checking mails, etc).
Just search for the thread Biotuch.exe. It's about 3 pages back.
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Did you delete biotouch or do u just stop it from running?

liemivan86 said:
some "people" said that the battery can last up to 4 days on regular use.
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HAHAHA If only.........
My battery lasts from 6 to 8 hours max.

orelsi said:
HAHAHA If only.........
My battery lasts from 6 to 8 hours max.
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what are u doing with it lol non stop online video playback ?

may be possible with edge only connection with no wifi bt and push and screen set to lowest.

Lake292 said:
what are u doing with it lol non stop online video playback ?
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Pretty much
I don't know really. Take yesterday for example:
I unplugged it from the charger in 9:00 then after 5 calls, 30 mins of music playback, 15 mins of wi-fi and 15 mins of playing games the battery was dead in 15:00 . That's only 6 hours......
I don't care anymore though. I bought a second battery and I'm happy again .

My battery lasts about 5 or 6 hours, simply had to buy a second charger and keep at work. Would leave home around 5:30 a.m. fully charged. Bluetooth is always on from then to about maybe 8a.m. or 9a.m. Listeing to audio podcasts or audio books. Screen at full brightness, always have the 3G connection on. Couple hundred text msgs to go through, along with clicking on links as needed to go to the websites linked in them. And SkyFire to read the Wall Street Journal for maybe 30 mins.
X1am, ROM: 1.02.948.8 with a date of 09/17/08.

about 2 - 3 days depending on use (more calls on some days lowers battery alot)

My power Xperiences so far
Overall the power consumption and power mgmt of the Xperia is quite bad, having been an XDA user for years.
The power button puts the phone into standby, so some apps keep running and drain the battery, when you think it is not consuming. Eg GPS.
Last week my phone would drain within one day, even on standby. I checked for any running apps and I had Closed All, but drain continued a second day after full recharge.
The only way to get it back to some level of normaility was to do a Soft Reset. This must have stopped the culprit process which was draining power ???
When the power drains to its lowest level, it puts the phone into a virtual dead state. It requires some time charging before it even powers up again. This is not an elegant way to power manage.

Wow... judging from the answers here, it is very strange to see how the battery life can be very differ from one to another. One can only last for 5 to 6 hours, while others can last for up to 3 to 5 days.
Lake292 said:
i have touchx 10.2 and if i dont use internet just normal stuff it last 5 days... if i start using wifi/edge about 2 days...
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Did you turn off the 3G network and let the phone work on gsm network only? 5 days with normal stuff is a blast...
TheNicoT said:
I used to charge my X1 every day, at least every second (when I didn't use it that much).
But since I did the Biotouch.exe trick, I'm able to run about 3-4 days with "normal" usage (most time online, permanent checking mails, etc).
Just search for the thread Biotuch.exe. It's about 3 pages back.
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I'll try to check it out... Thanx...
Trudi said:
R3, 5 days in standby @ home, using it to call during about 10' per day. Otherwise @ work (phone 20 - 30' per day, and 15 - 20' surfing on the web by UMTS) 3 days then I charge it as I am at 20 percent.
Beware of the UMTS coverage, if the coverage is not excellent, you'll use your battery very quick (so if no 3G used, set is as GSM instead of Auto in Phone - Settings - Band).
Pay attention to the software you install, it can change from 3 days to a simple day if the software is not optimized (for example it's a nightmare with SPB Mobile Shell 3).
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I guess that maybe the cause, since the umts network around here is not so good... I'll check that later and let you know if it is the cause...
orelsi said:
Pretty much
I don't know really. Take yesterday for example:
I unplugged it from the charger in 9:00 then after 5 calls, 30 mins of music playback, 15 mins of wi-fi and 15 mins of playing games the battery was dead in 15:00 . That's only 6 hours......
I don't care anymore though. I bought a second battery and I'm happy again .
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Wow... that what I call HEAVY USE... Btw, what rom did you use? Thanx...

pokdub said:
Overall the power consumption and power mgmt of the Xperia is quite bad, having been an XDA user for years.
The power button puts the phone into standby, so some apps keep running and drain the battery, when you think it is not consuming. Eg GPS.
Last week my phone would drain within one day, even on standby. I checked for any running apps and I had Closed All, but drain continued a second day after full recharge.
The only way to get it back to some level of normaility was to do a Soft Reset. This must have stopped the culprit process which was draining power ???
When the power drains to its lowest level, it puts the phone into a virtual dead state. It requires some time charging before it even powers up again. This is not an elegant way to power manage.
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I guess it is because of if you used all your battery power, you will also drain the backup battery (you can check the backup battery status by using the apps "batty"), so it will take a while to charge the backup battery first before charging the main battery. This is only a guess...

What Backup Battery??? The thing that shows up in Batti is for phone with a backup battery I guess... but NOT for the X1. There is no such thing that can show up in Batti. On mine it shows just an empty bar.

liemivan86 said:
Did you turn off the 3G network and let the phone work on gsm network only? 5 days with normal stuff is a blast...
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why would i have it on when my operator doesnt even support 3g course it was off no data connection also... my battery goes down 10-20% a day when i just use it for music and some sms...

Mine lasts about ~6 hours talk time at 3G.
~3-4 Days when i use talk ~30 minutes / day.
Only lasted a few hours with the original Rom.
Flashed to Smabergs Touch X 10.0, battery lasted ~1 day, and then with 10.1 it got improved to 3-4 days.
Which is enough. Thank you Smaberg!

My battery last from 9AM to uhm 3PM yes that's for 6 hours of use (I have SPB Mobile 3.0.1 running and WCX ROM Windows 6.5). RAM running from 60-95% of usage LOLOLOL but yeah I have my FB, Skype, Windows Media, MSN, etc. running and it runs SUPER slow at times that I have to take the batt out.
I'm gonna flash the ROM again to a battery friendly ROM if available (the way I'm using it right now is not very economy friendly).

jhendra said:
My battery last from 9AM to uhm 3PM yes that's for 6 hours of use (I have SPB Mobile 3.0.1 running and WCX ROM Windows 6.5). RAM running from 60-95% of usage LOLOLOL but yeah I have my FB, Skype, Windows Media, MSN, etc. running and it runs SUPER slow at times that I have to take the batt out.
I'm gonna flash the ROM again to a battery friendly ROM if available (the way I'm using it right now is not very economy friendly).
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Touch X is all that you want, and will ever need.

Suggestion regarding battery life

Hi guys, just as a suggestion, someone could stick a thread regarding battery life, with tweaks or recommendations of what to do to improve this. I'm sure it is the major drawback of our wonderful device and I'm always trying to find something that could help, but I never find anything that really helps.
After several tweaks from this forum, the only thing I think that have really improved my battery life was to disable the HTC sense. It really works. Somehow, the Sense drains the battery so fast, the change is very visible.
But of course the Sense is one of the best things of the HD2
What do you think guys?

I have the same problem as well, power management cab didn't help in 1.48 ROM, in 1.43 everything worked quite well

I'm subscribing to this thread in the hope someone can do a good summary.. fingers crossed!

yeah the only solution is not to use sense, sense drains alot of power.
After I installed spb mobile shell the problem is solved..
Using spb and not sense has made my battery last alot longer, at night the battery would drain 50-60 % when I was at sleep using sense, but with spb it only drains 5-10% for a whole night.

I am using Sense and my battery drains about 5% over night. I found 2 things that helped a lot.
1. Turn off Settings/Location and automatically decline the service to HTC apps.
2. Turn off Settings/Personalise/Vibration.

Since yesterday 7am my battery now is 48%
the following services are running:
-bluetooth handsfree
-email check every 15 minutes
-approx 1hr of calls a day
- synchro over bt activesync with pc
- installing some apps
i think its not to bad on the stock phone with some tweaks from xda

I have no idea how long that is for you, but it is 0920 am here now so.. 52% in two hours?

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I have no idea how long that is for you, but it is 0920 am here now so.. 52% in two hours?
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check the config, switch off twitter/facebook to manual update, use edge instead of hsdpa, etc

another thing that helps is to disable the animated wallpaper. You can do so by chosing from the album

email check every 15 minutes
lol what do you expect.
I download weather ever hour, and just check for mails when i want to, average use i drop 10% - 15% in a day with sense on.

jrvenge said:
email check every 15 minutes
lol what do you expect.
I download weather ever hour, and just check for mails when i want to, average use i drop 10% - 15% in a day with sense on.
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I get similar. sense does not seem to drain battery for me. weather update every hour, Facebook every 2 hours, email every hour. I get 2 - 3 days use.

Got a question about Hotmail, I got it set to "As items arrive" now.
Does this mean it's scanning for email 24 hours/1440 minutes/86400 seconds a day?
If so, that would probably eat alot of battery?
Or does it work somehow else? Can somehow tell me please
Thanks

my Htc touch pro quickly consumes the battery power

my Htc touch pro quickly consumes the battery power, the battery lasts 8 hours, I don't use many my mobile I've run over by a new WM 1.6 but the problem persists and disable all type of connexion problem also persists
i buy another battery but the problem persists
any body have solution??

Which ROM are you using?

RobyMax1 said:
Which ROM are you using?
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the official ROM of HTC
_HTC Touch Pro_RUU_Raphael_HTC_FRA_5.05.406.1_Radio_Signed_Raphael_52.58.25.30_1.11.25.01_Ship.exe

You sure you don't have your Wifi or GPS turned on ? If you have that location service turned on, that uses you GPS I beleive... Those are the 2 things that kill that battery the fastest for me.... mt batterys typicalyl lasts 2 days using the Energy rom

Use Advanced Config 3.3 and enable all power saving features.
Disable 3G when not needed.
You should get more than a week standby time with stock battery.
Sascha

SaBo said:
Use Advanced Config 3.3 and enable all power saving features.
Disable 3G when not needed.
You should get more than a week standby time with stock battery.
Sascha
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Thanks, I'll try that. I usually get 2 days on standby.

Fred Doolie said:
Thanks, I'll try that. I usually get 2 days on standby.
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That`s very nice - I`m getting only one day :/ (though I`m using raph100 only for 4 days now). Maybe it`s because I`m doing so much stuff on it very often, make some benchmarks, 3D games, applications tests , customization, xandroid(one time a day for 5-10 minutes), etc... I`m using the newest Energy rom (20th of march).

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Maybe it`s because I`m doing so much stuff on it.....
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Perhaps. I meant 2 days from 100% to dead with all the radios *turned off* and phone just sitting there doing *nothing*. However, after a few cycles of draining the battery totally dead (the phone turns on and then shuts off right away) and letting it charge for 24+ hours I now only get a 10% power loss for each day of standby; even with the phone radio left on. Wifi kills the battery fast though. REAL fast. Maybe two hours of you tubing and it's dead.

Can you find out !!!

Can you find out wot is stopping the phone from sleeping, also in the battery history the "time spent with screen on" is on 32m.44s yet the phone has been in standby for the last hr and half, can anyone tell me why this is,
thanks all

can any one help me out on this please...

Shonan_ said:
Can you find out wot is stopping the phone from sleeping
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Not without knowing everything you've got installed.
Shonan_ said:
also in the battery history the "time spent with screen on" is on 32m.44s yet the phone has been in standby for the last hr and half, can anyone tell me why this is
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To view the battery info you've obviously had to have the screen on to view it, so that doesn't really mean anything.

Can't post links, but look in the Extended battery thread in the Accessories subforum, I posted a way of doing this on page 7 I think.

Ok I will take a look, I think iv norrowed it down to 2 thing, juice defender or adw launcher, I unistalled both of them and in 3 half hrs iv dropped 4 % with a little use
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

Won't have been adw.. But could have been a faulty widget you had on there.. ?
Sent from my x10 using XDA and swype.

One thing you should check out is background syncing for mail etc. On the later (024 and 026) it's less of a drain on the battery but still eats through it pretty fast. On the older versions mine wouldn't even last a day with background syncing on since it never went to sleep.

This could be the problem:
If you use ADW and have a task manager installed to automated kill tasks every time the screen goes off, then the screen don´t turn off at all... (as far as i remember)
Try to eigther disable automated task-killing or set it to 1 or 2 hours instead...

im_iceman said:
Won't have been adw.. But could have been a faulty widget you had on there.. ?
Sent from my x10 using XDA and swype.
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i had un-installed all widgets of and just had juice defender and adw on i re-installed juice defender couple times and it help a little but was still going down fairly quick,
ddewbofh said:
One thing you should check out is background syncing for mail etc. On the later (024 and 026) it's less of a drain on the battery but still eats through it pretty fast. On the older versions mine wouldn't even last a day with background syncing on since it never went to sleep.
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i made sure that all that was turned off and only ever sync manuelly, unfortunalty i cant hav the new update so im still on 16 this morning my display was on 4.5% and it had bin awake for couple hrs when i got up so it had slept at some point,
pshdo said:
This could be the problem:
If you use ADW and have a task manager installed to automated kill tasks every time the screen goes off, then the screen don´t turn off at all... (as far as i remember)
Try to eigther disable automated task-killing or set it to 1 or 2 hours instead...
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yeah iv took atk off now and letting the phone handle its self i also removed adw,
took my phone of a 100% at midnight and at 8 this morning it only dropped 5% tho my signal upstairs aint all that great, its had HEAVY use this morning and 25 hrs later im on 65% which is great, the true reading will be tomo in work with BT on for most of the 8 hr working day,
Cheers for the advise guys...