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exec goes into continuos loop thing

Just got a s/h exec and I think it is faulty. Whats happens is it starts up ok and works for a while and then for no reason that I can think of it goes into a loop which stops it from working.
When I say a loop I'm not sure thats the right terminology but imagine if you tapped the start button and the start menu opens... and then imagine you tapped the tab button , the next item would highlight. If you tapped the tab button again the next item would highlight and so on. Well its as if the tab button is being hit over and over because all the items in the start menu will be highlighted one after the other over and over again.... it just goes round and round in a loop.
Its possible to escape from this and go to another screen but the same looping will go on in that screen too.
If you switch off and leave for a while and come back to it it works ok for a short time and thens starts the carry on again.
Sometimes if you just wait a while it stops, but will start doing it again even if you dont touch anything.
I've noticed one way to force it to stop is to slide the volume button... this seems to stop the loop and allows normal function for a while.... then the crazy looping starts again.
Has anyone seen this or know anything about it.

Nope sorry, maybe you can have it replaced where you bought it as from your post, you can recreate the problem easily.
Side Note : Have you tried Hard Resetting? Or installing another ROM?

I have tried hard resets and factory reset... problem remains.
Will try new ROM.... just trying to figure out how to do it !

weegee said:
I have tried hard resets and factory reset... problem remains.
Will try new ROM.... just trying to figure out how to do it !
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Just download a new ROM form imate or something, unpack all the files in the ROM update to a directory, put the attached file in same directory.
Enter bootloader mode (Backlight + Power + Reset Hole) you will see SERAIL on the screen but not backlight so look hard.
Plug into PC, the SERIAL will change to USB
Run the attached file. You will see a photo of an S100 but continue anyway....
Hard reset when finished... DOne

ok have installed latest rom... but exec still doing loop loop

Just for arguments sake, can you try installing Imate's newest ROM?

yea thats the one i have just put on.
It seems to be doing the problem less than before. I notice that it does stop if i press the backlight key or move the sound slider.
I'm wondering if there is dust or dirt got in behind the buttons or something like that... although I would have thought other people would have come across this b4 if that was the problem. The machine is one of the first to come out, although I just got it a couple of days ago.

weegee said:
yea thats the one i have just put on.
It seems to be doing the problem less than before. I notice that it does stop if i press the backlight key or move the sound slider.
I'm wondering if there is dust or dirt got in behind the buttons or something like that... although I would have thought other people would have come across this b4 if that was the problem. The machine is one of the first to come out, although I just got it a couple of days ago.
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If you have tried different ROM flavors and still get the same problem, then it is definitely hardware related. Send your unit in and demand for a new one not a repair

Just been playing around with it again and notice that I can make the problem happen if i press any of the keys on the navigation pad except the top one.... and i can stop the loop by pressing the light button.
Weird or what.

My initial thought on this is maybe its got wet at some point

I have opened the xda up and stripped it down to all its parts. No sign of any dampness or dust dirt etc. Dont see anything missing or broken.
Put back together, but still doing this.
Driving me nuts.... its a great machine but is very tiresom to use with this going on.
Another think I notice about this machine, I have never used it as a phone, but I tried putting a sim card in and There is no sound through the earpiece. Only sound comes from the speakers when you set it to speaker phone.

I suggest just return it and have it replaced. It's probably a faulty button. Probably gets stuck whenever you press it.

Doesnt need a button to be pressed for it to start.. just starts by itself... and can stop by itself too.
Sometimes it can for ages without doing it, other times it does it all the time.
Cant figure if its hardware or software problem

GHOST-IN-THE-MACHINE

Yea... maybe I should get a priest !

I had this problem when i first got mine, if you move the sound slider down, then up, it seems to stop doing it for a while, and it hasn't happened in the last couple of weeks atall, maybe its because its new, and just needs to settle in?
Jay

Well at least I'm not the only one to have it.
My sound slider does stop it happening but only for a while and then it starts up again.
The machine is perfect in every other way, its just an annoyance I could do without.
I've tried everything, even stripped it down and left parts out, like buttons, to see if they are the source, but no difference.

I have the same problem!!!!!!!!!
Someone help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have same problem. I send to service but until today they can't repair that problem.

Help With 8525!?!?!?!

So Yesterday for no reason at all my 8525's screen went white. i thought it had frozen or some thing but it didn't snap out of it. I pressed the ok button on the side and could hear noise. I decided to restart. Nothing. Did this like 7 times. Finally I let it sit without the battery for like an hour. I worked but the colors were all messed up. Reset and it worked fine. So i set my alarm went to sleep and woke this morning to an email and a white screen. Turning it on and off a couple of times did it and I was already frustrated.
Then I read on a forum about Activesync automatically opening throughout the day to try and connect. So I tweaked that to manual connections. Still the same. So I decided to take advantage of the warranty but I needed to set back my rom b/c as you already know, it voids it. Also thinking that re-flashing might get rid of whatever it was failing in. No, still the same, and now worse. As or an hour ago, my navigation pad doesn't work either. It actually works for about a second when I turn it on and then after I press anything on the pad or surrounding buttons, it's gone.
I really would like to fix it myself at least for now and use the warranty exchange at about 11 months but if theres nothing I can do, I guess I can go get a new one. Also, I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but I downloaded Google Maps to my phone yesterday on the road (through 3G) and that was the only new program installed( I think it mightve been this).
Has this happened to anyone else?
Any help would be much appreciated. I hope I explained enough for anyone to respond. Thank you in advance to anyone with anything really.

Actually if you do a search under white screen you'll find many entries. Any attempt to fix yourself will void the warranty. If you are lucky it may only be the d-pad connector that is loose. This it is possible to check yourself but if have a warranty then I suggesting using it.
Otherwise see the link to my site in my signature for dismantling and service manual guides.
Mike

Thanks. You know I think I will take advantage of the warranty sometime this week. I don't know what happened. But I'm to update my situation. It now seems as though my directional pad seems to be the problem. it glitches on and off and using it sometimes creates the fade-out to white screen. I have to let it go to standby on its own to get my screen back or play around turning it on and off for a bit.
Also, once i re-installed me ATT rom with no applications, my screen seems to be off. I have a 1/32th sliver of the bottom of the screen at the top of my touchscreen. Even in landscape it shows my scroll bar and everything. I didn't even drop it but it is now slightly skewed down. Any input on this?
I also found this website talking about the same problem having with and unorthodox solution (which I tried to no avail). Here's the link if anyone want to check this out. http://www.htcwiki.com/page/AT&T+8525+Display+issues:+Display+is+dim,+blank,+white,+has+lines,+etc.?t=anon
Anyways, I'm gonna call ATT about this see if they can help but I think I will replace, I just didn't want to so soon.
Thanks again for the quick answer.

ckent03 said:
Thanks. You know I think I will take advantage of the warranty sometime this week. I don't know what happened. But I'm to update my situation. It now seems as though my directional pad seems to be the problem. it glitches on and off and using it sometimes creates the fade-out to white screen. I have to let it go to standby on its own to get my screen back or play around turning it on and off for a bit.
Also, once i re-installed me ATT rom with no applications, my screen seems to be off. I have a 1/32th sliver of the bottom of the screen at the top of my touchscreen. Even in landscape it shows my scroll bar and everything. I didn't even drop it but it is now slightly skewed down. Any input on this?
I also found this website talking about the same problem having with and unorthodox solution (which I tried to no avail). Here's the link if anyone want to check this out. http://www.htcwiki.com/page/AT&T+8525+Display+issues:+Display+is+dim,+blank,+white,+has+lines,+etc.?t=anon
Anyways, I'm gonna call ATT about this see if they can help but I think I will replace, I just didn't want to so soon.
Thanks again for the quick answer.
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Everything they suggest on that site you have tried I guess, the soft and hard resets etc.
I agree with you about the d-pad (directional buttons). Those with this problem often report that the d-pad or it's connector are re;lated to this issue.
Pleased you have chosen the warranty route. You see evn if you opened it up, it can work for a short while and then return again. Also push hard for replacement not repair. They may do this automatically but if not try to persuade them. The reason is that quite a few folks have reported that even after an HTC repair the problem can come back. Actually I think there may be more than one physical cause of this issue and sorting one thing does not mean it won't come back via another route.
The good news is, if you get a good one as I did on the second attempt, I never had white screen or alignment issues - despite heavy use.
Mike

Once again, thank you Mike for all your input. I will be issuing an order for replacement instead of repair. Being at work all day today I've seen that it hasn't "whited' out, if you will, but has actually kept working. Ever so often the d-pad goes but comes back in a few seconds. It may be due to the WM6 i had on it so for now i will keep the original ATT upgrade of WM5 and try to hold off on the warranty as long as I can before it expires. That way I can enjoy a healthy new 8525 longer.
For now I will keep looking around in these forums and see if there ever is a solid solution. Thanks again, and good luck with all.
CKent

HD2 frozen on boot

I have just got the HD2 and been using it for a few weeks. Downloaded a few apps (eg HTC rom, BSB tweeks) and all is good. Saw Max Manila and looked like a great idea - checked my manila version 2.5.19211619.0 and downloaded 2.7 SE (checked it's right for my manila) loaded onto phone and it crashed after soft reset. Took battery out and phone doesn't go past first screen (with the red writing bottom left) - Hard reset is the same and now I'm worried!
Any ideas???

sad to say yy sounds like hard reset time.
power off, hold volume up and volume down, tap power keeping volume up and down pressed til the screen comes on and follow the prompts.
it will reset your phone to factory defaults.
never used max manila so I cant help with what the problem might be, but if there is a developers thread for it you might be better asking there.

Thanks for replying samsamuel - I've tried the hard reset and it doesn't work!
Even when I do as you say, I get the white start screen with htc written on it and then several red lines at the bottom right starting R G and D and that's it! It just stay's like that - At this moment I'd pray for a hard reset!!
I'm going to try booting from the sd card but I'm not sure I can get the phone to go into the bootable mode. I've downloaded the HTC rom and extracted the nmh so we'll see.

if your phone is provider locked then that will not work.you need the rom that came on your phone. so if was from uk o2 then you need the o2 uk rom, otherwise it wont work.

No luck! Whilst I've got everything to sort the phone out it won't do anything but load the white first screen no matter which buttons I hold down.
Man this sucks!
Guess there's nothing for it except the bin unless anyone else has any other ideas??

can you get into boot loader?
press and hold vol down(not up this time, just down) tap and release power, keep vol down held. should boot to striped cultures colored screen.
if you can what does it say next to SPL?

Hi Samsamual
Thanks for helping but no, won't go into bootloader either - doesn't respond to any input (even when I conect the usb the charge led doesn't come on!) and just starts with the white screen with the HTC logo and then the red writting appears and it just hangs - left it for 5 mins just to be sure and no change
Looks like I've really messed it up although I have no idea what I did wrong - instal went just like the other things I installed.

Ahh shame. All i can suggest is the original rom sd card method. But it MUST be the propper rom that came on your phone, so if you got it from vodaphone, , , even if it is unlocked, you must use the voda rom.
Also, have a really good read through the pages in teh rom development section. If you can find someone with the exact same issue, you could be one step closer to fixing it.

Brotherskid said:
Thanks for replying samsamuel - I've tried the hard reset and it doesn't work!
Even when I do as you say, I get the white start screen with htc written on it and then several red lines at the bottom right starting R G and D and that's it! It just stay's like that - At this moment I'd pray for a hard reset!!
I'm going to try booting from the sd card but I'm not sure I can get the phone to go into the bootable mode. I've downloaded the HTC rom and extracted the nmh so we'll see.
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you must tab the power botton for a short time just tab it and leave it with keeping pressing on the volume up and down buttons don't leave them i think it must work with you tell me if it works

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When you tried the SD card method did you use a 2GB SD card and was it formatted to FAT32?
WB

Have you tried a boot (all combinations!) without the sd card installed?

Hoss and WB - thanks for the comments
Hoss, I've held the volume buttons for over a minute after powering on - no change
WB, I can't get the phone to go into boot loader screen but thanks for the info for the future. Next time I'll see if I can copy the original rom just in case.
Resigned myself to having a new paper weight on my desk and looking for a new phone - Guess I won't be putting so many programs on my new one....

PA - Thanks for the advice - Yes tried with sd card in/out sim in/out bootloader, hard reset, soft reset and always the same.

In your posts you do not mention where you bought your HD2, and I do not know what country you are in.
From what I have read, it seems that you did not flash any ROMs, nor change your SPL, so if I were you, at this point, rather than accepting a bricked paperweight, why not explore your warranty possibilities?
Contact the place you bought the HD2 (the dealer) and explore your options. Since I do not know which country you are in I will not suggest an HTC service center, but if your country has such a center, at last resort, you might check out that possibility.
Since you apparently had no hardware problems before the manila incident, it would seem that it is a software glitch somehwere.
Good luck with all of this. It must be almost heartbreaking to have this happen with such beautiful hardware.

rlydiard said:
In your posts you do not mention where you bought your HD2, and I do not know what country you are in.
From what I have read, it seems that you did not flash any ROMs, nor change your SPL, so if I were you, at this point, rather than accepting a bricked paperweight, why not explore your warranty possibilities?
Contact the place you bought the HD2 (the dealer) and explore your options. Since I do not know which country you are in I will not suggest an HTC service center, but if your country has such a center, at last resort, you might check out that possibility.
Since you apparently had no hardware problems before the manila incident, it would seem that it is a software glitch somehwere.
Good luck with all of this. It must be almost heartbreaking to have this happen with such beautiful hardware.
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What's most annoying is it wasn't as if I was doing anything crazy! Max manila is used by many people (from what I've seen in the threads) and I guess I downloaded the wrong one (although naturally I checked and it's the right one). Certainly will curb my using of 3rd party software! As for the warranty, you're right, I can try and see if it can be fixed (bizarrely, that hadn't occured to me - I thought that with no resets working HTC couldn't do anything). Thanks for the tip and I'll let you know how I get on.

Surely your warranty will cover this. Yes, let me (and us) know how all of this goes. You will get your phone back to what you deserve, for sure!

I had the same issue.
Sent mine to HTC and got it back with the comment "Cannot reproduce"
Probably it solved itself when the battery was removed for a couple of days in the mail.
It has now been working for two weeks again.
Fingers crossed.

watnuweer said:
I had the same issue.
Sent mine to HTC and got it back with the comment "Cannot reproduce"
Probably it solved itself when the battery was removed for a couple of days in the mail.
It has now been working for two weeks again.
Fingers crossed.
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Experential nut I may be, but just wondering if you had the problem after you installed the MAx manila? I wonder now what versions of OS may be causing this problem.

i had something like this with my HTC Diamond... It stopped responding completely when turned on, didn't respond to the usb cable being plugged in (the round ring used to illuminate when charging)
I took the battery out, for about 30 minutes... then left it charging for another 30 minutes - booted up straight away and never did anything like that again
Worth a shot just leaving it without power for awhile, and then just recharging it
Like watnuweer mentioned, "cannot reproduce" probably fixed itself by not having the battery left in for awhile

fakker said:
i had something like this with my HTC Diamond... It stopped responding completely when turned on, didn't respond to the usb cable being plugged in (the round ring used to illuminate when charging)
I took the battery out, for about 30 minutes... then left it charging for another 30 minutes - booted up straight away and never did anything like that again
Worth a shot just leaving it without power for awhile, and then just recharging it
Like watnuweer mentioned, "cannot reproduce" probably fixed itself by not having the battery left in for awhile
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This is getting more interesting, what do you suppose is the cure of taking out the battery, and then charging? I do not doubt your experience, I am just extremely curious if anyone can explain this phenomena.

Argh! The screen is no longer responsive. What to do?

Just as i said - Argh! The screen is no longer responsive. What to do? I can no longer slide the lock across the screen. i have tried to flash the ROM with the 1.66 official but i cannot because it tells me to unlock the phone. I cant! argh! I've pushed the little red button by the battery a couple of times as well as removed the battery. Any suggestions? The hard buttons allow me to answer a call but that's it. i recently turned on the lock for the phone (today in fact) but I've unlocked it several times since doing so before this happened.

Sounds familiar...
Sounds like it is the same problem I had, as well as a few others on this forum. Even after a hard reset, it still didn't work. According to other people here, the solution is to have the screen swopped out for a new one. I've actually just sent mine in today to get it sorted out.
Just curious - I've got a suspicion that environmental conditions may have a role to play in causing the failure. What is the weather in your area like?

Very nice here today. Sunny, mid 50s(f).
I bought this off of ebay. Do i just send it in to HTC?

Try a hard reset, and if it doesn't help then make sure you have an official ROM and send it to HTC.

a hard reset is the little red button next to the battery, correct? ive done that.
and i cant very well change the ROMs at this point now, can i?

lythe123 said:
a hard reset is the little red button next to the battery, correct? ive done that.
and i cant very well change the ROMs at this point now, can i?
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I would really like to wipe it before i sent it in. i dont want all my info, etc going into someones hands i dont know. anyway to do that?

No, that's a soft reset. Hard reset is pressing the red button while holding both volume keys until you get the "Restore factory settings?" prompt (when the device is on), then following the onsceeen instructions. This is what you're looking for to erase everything, including any possible software bug that could have caused the issue.
If the touchscreen still doesn't work then, send it in.

lythe123 said:
a hard reset is the little red button next to the battery, correct? ive done that.
and i cant very well change the ROMs at this point now, can i?
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No! A hard reset is:
- Turn phone off
- Press vol up and down at the same time and then press power button (hold vol)
- follow the instructions on the screen
Be aware, that all you data on the phone will get lost. I recommend taking out the SD for that as well. After that u r done. By what you say i assume, that you didnt flash a custom ROM yet, right ?

Thanks! that didnt work either though.
I just want my money back now honestly. This thing, as pretty as it is, is just too much trouble.

Sorry double post...

A faulty device can happen to anybody, just bad luck... can't count how many times it has happened to me as well in the past.

I heard that there is a batch of phones that have a faulty screen, other problems are that without pressing anything the phone still registers clicks, phone doesn't always detect the correct place of where you pressed and the screen not responding.
I have got this on my phone and have arranged a pick up from HTC to pick up my phone for repair, hopefully in a week or two it will come back with a brand new screen that works

Ive had it a couple of months now. Im not sure if i can deal with the lack of apps that my iPhone has, pandora and the like, and the fact that teh HD2 would every so often change time and even date and i cant get weather in places my iPhone can.
In short, i love the HD2 for its specs but i no longer trust it at all.

Strange Touchscreen NAND Issues

ok, I have a strange issue that I can not seem to find the answer to. Whenever my phone locks after not being used etc. When I wake it up, the touchscreen will not let me unlock. It takes me close to 50 attempts to do so. However once I actually am successful in getting it unlocked. The touchscreen works flawlessly. I have tried several different builds, all of them I have the same issue. I have done Task29 and started fresh on that front each time. I tried a couple different radios. Any suggestions?

**** man i got the same problem! i tried hard reset, rom updates, other buils but it wont go away!
plz someone help us!

Hi,I'm using BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA GINGER 2.3.3 RAM_V5 works great so far the best that I tried.After u flash android it's recommended to wait few mins until it loads everything then do a shut down - not a restart.then again u wait few mins and u do a second shut down. after that the os should work fine ,at least for me works great. if that doesn't help ,try to reinstall everything from the start..hspl radio etc.

You could just turn off the lockscreen? Get 'NoLock' from the market. That should do the business if you want.

I've got the same problem since 5 days, It started when I started using WIFI and turning off my 3G ..

you have the same problem my hd2 has....it is a hardware issue. the screen becomes unresponsive. if you still have warranty send it in for a repair. if not... repair it yourself. it's not that hard. the screen wire is probably just loose.
follow this video to take apart your hd2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4

Sounds like a similar problem that I'm experiencing. If I wake the lockscreen with the send key instead, it works. When I boot I get exactly one shot with the end key then it locks up again. I'm able to use it with the send key, but concerned it might get worse. If anyone finds the solution please post.

I actually for the first time had this, and I know this is going to get flamed but its not the Screen thats the problem. And I think (BIG IF) that the dreaded unresponsive screen issue that we keep reading about Majority of them I think is not the screen.
I have 2 HD2s and both have worked flawlessly without any problems, but today I was playing with my test phone that doesnt get used that much and I noticed after installing a new rom that my screen after I played with it for a bit went black (sleep) and when I woke it up it wouldnt respond, first thing that crossed my mind is I just lost my digitizier, and started wondering okay why, I went as far to re-flash WinMo stock HD2 rom, same issue, so I decided its time to find out exactly whats causing this, and I found it. I wasnt going to make a post again cause I figured people would be "Not another thread about this" but I know whats causing the screen issue, at least this is my suspicision and I have temporarily fixed mine.
The problem is HARDWARE, The Culprit: THE END KEY (Red Button)! The Answer to "How or Why": The "End" key is used to turn the phone on and off or to put it in sleep mode, it is the most used key out of all 5 keys, it is used probably 7x more then all the rest, Its used for just about everything, now how does this cause the unresponsive screen? Easy, the phone lock or sleep is associated with this key, Its the only way to make the screen go off other then waiting for the time out period. Because by habit we mostly hit the end key to turn the screen off the phone automatically associates this with locking the phone, once that happens the screen becomes unresponsive because of several reasons: 1) The contact under the actual key has dirt which causes the button to stick in the down position, 2) the contact is bent which the "end" key is pressing down on the contact which is making contact with the board and causing it to be unresponsive, 3) The contact is worn. This is the reason why if you press the end key a few times (anywhere between 2-10) and then try the screen responds, this is cause your "unsticking" the key which then lets the screen respond.
Most of us when we hit the end key press to the far right to avoid hitting the back key (The button with the left arrow) which causes the end button to lean toward the right. But you can wake the phone up with the other 4 keys to the lock screen which will allow you to unlock the phone. As a temporary fix for myself, on my test phone I now make sure to press on the left side of the key to prevent this from happening, since its a test phone I'm not worried, but the real solution is to take the phone apart and clean the underside of the end button, and the actual contact with alcohol to remove the build up of dirt and whatever else. And also if the contact frame is bent to GENTLY bend the right side back up alittle to stop it from happening, or sending it to htc and letting them fix it.
We have to RE-TRAIN ourselves to start using the other keys to wake the phone up and not rely on the end key so much.
Hope this helps anyone finally why we have this problem. And if it works for you then hit the Thanks button