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My Wizard has multiple bugs, need help solving

I understand that this forum is filled with developers. So I am hoping for some informed help. If you have any of these same problems please respond as well. I would like to know if these are isolated to my setup
I migrated from a cel phone and a PPC running WM2003/2003se. Mainly for the converged device, but also for the persistent storage. I run a small business, and and am very busy and rely on my phone and schedule all day everyday.
I have only had the wizard (MDA) for about 3 weeks and experienced odd problems since the first weekhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
. Unfortunately I did not buy new, so I am not sure if any of these are covered by warranty or not... I am just going to list the problems:
1) If I leave my phone plugged in at night to charge than by the time I wake up the phone will not come out of standby. I have to press the soft reset button to get the unit to work again. This happens intermittently
2) I use an alarm program so that the unit acts like an alarm clock. If the phone is plugged in at night, and does not experience problem number 1, than the alarm just won't go off. I turn on the phone and the alarm program is open, but it did nothing. If the phone is not plugged in than the alarm works fine.
3) Soft buttons. I have the registry set to remap what the soft buttons do. I use Agenda Fusion (Latest Version) so i have them set to open the calendar and the contacts to Agenda Fusions view of them. This works most of the time. On occasion the soft buttons just stop working except for running through the menus for reminders.....
4)The other day i went to take a photo, the camera said that it could not proceed because there was not enough memory. At the time I had 30 megs of storage free, about 12 megs of program free and about 900 meg left on my sd card...
5) Every so often the unit won't launch a program, it says that the exe is unsigned or not trusted. It works every other time though.
6) I use cLaunch. Every so often cLaunch disappears from the today screen. The only wat to get it to reappear is to remove it from the today screen from the today items menu, wait a couple of seconds and then return it to the today screen.
7) Every so often the unit stops recognizing the sd card..have to remove and re-insert
8) I use reminders for all my calender and to do items. Occasionally the reminder will go off for a certain item 24 hours in advance, even though the setting is correct in the item...
I feel like I am missing a few problems. But you get might point, WM5 is weird. All of the above can be corrected with a soft reset. But sometimes the problems show up multiple times a day. Causing me to have to soft reset in the most inconvenient times, several times a day.http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/mad.gif
I did not have these problems under WM2003. I have a friend who uses a Verzion phone that is similar to the wizard (made by a different company though, not HTC...it has an external antennae and that is where the stylus is stored as well) She and I were comparing phones today. Hers runs WM5 but she said that she has never experienced any of these problems in the 1 year that she has owned hers...
Is this an HTC Wizard problem? A WM5 problem with the wizards? Would it help if i installed on of the alternate roms that I read about here on XDA developers? I am considering a hard reset and starting from scratch but I don't want to go that route unless it is the only way. And if I do, I may just use one of those roms.....What does everybody think?http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Sorry for the long winded post....

Seems like a software problem based on (1) and (2). Is the ROM an official ROM?

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Hello Hanmin Thanks for responding,
Re Number 1. I just saw that some one else posted with that problem. So I will see if they have they same alarm program installed. I have wondered if everything is software related. Thats why I am hoping to see if others are having these types of problems, and if so, what programs they are using...
Re the rom...yes it the official T-mobile release, version listed in my sig.
Thanks again

New problem
I have just encountered a new problem:
While picking up my voice mail the system would not register my button pushes. Weather on screen or the hardware buttons. I could not interact with voice mail, nor could I end the call with the hardware button or the soft button....I had to reset the phone to end the call!!
How frustrating is that

Have you tried reflashing the original ROM? Being a used phone that would be the first thing I would do. It's going to wipe out all your data and return it to an "out of box" state, so i suggest backing up anything important and sync to your PC. If that doesn't work then you have a hardware issue but I'm willing to bet that should take care of it. You can find the original ROM on HTP's website. Good Luck

Thank you
Thanks for that suggestion....I am hoping to not go down that road, if I can help it. But I will do it if there are no other options. So If I may ask: How many votes does re flashing old Rom Get? And are there any other ideas?
Again Thanks. I am going to download the rom in case it does come to that....

wait...the phone dosen't wake up unless you push the small button on the top of the phone? That is not the default setting on the MDA, however it's acting naturally. Our phones go on a standby to save power. Click the battery icon in the lower right hand corner-->Click the Advanced tab--> uncheck Turn off device on external power

Misunderstanding....
When the phone is plugged in over night and reaches %100 charge some times it won't "Wake Up" even hitting the power button on top. The only thing that will turn it on is the "Soft Reset" button on the right side, beneath the IR sensor.

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It sounds like you have software problems - possible a corrupt notification queue - personally i would do a hard reset of the device - probably in the process of this i would soft reset before the t-mobile extras install - taking details of gprs, mms settings before this.
I would run the phone without installing software to see that its not a hardware problem. Then reinstall programs one by one and see how it goes. Some software like claunch is not made for wm5 so expect some glitches (i use claunch and get occ glitch)
If you dont want to hard reset check the notification queue for duplicates and rogue scripts using check notifications - attached - install via pc. Dont delete notifications important for system running - common duplicates are clock\calendar.

alarm problems
Hi,
frankly i had similar issues - less critical but annoying: alarm clock not waking me up, slow system, notification queue mess, difficult resets, camera issues, bluetooth a2dp skipping. I upgraded my Qtek multiple times, and finally i can say that 2.26 roms (i use molski's) are exceptionally stable and reliable. The problem is not Wm5, the problem is how buggy many released versions are. So, my suggestion: look to the forum, find roms that appear to have a reliable history, cross your fingers and...upgrade. Then, resist in upgrading to any rom that just came out and appear to be faster, cooler, nicer. Unless you have an issue to be solved, and you see 100 messages confirming that the rom is stable and does the job...

Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again

cameraddict said:
Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again
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Write them down manually its the safest way - there are cabs available but often dont work.
GPRS - settings\connections\connections\manage existing connectons - settings should be here prob named t-mobile
MMS - go into messages\menu\options\MMS\servers click on prob t mobile again.

Thanks again!

reboot loop

sometimes when i soft reset my mogul it goes into a sort of reboot loop, it will reset before loading the today screen
i have an app that lets me boot into a "safe mode" with all today plugins, autorun items and nonessential services disabled, however this too reboots (it resets before even loading the today screen, it resets at the wm6 splash screen)
any ideas? i suspect its some app i have installed, just seems weird that it would happen before anything else loads

When this happens, simply remove the SD card and the loop will stop.
Also, it seems that this has stopped if you have the most current ROM.

heh, i never even thought about pulling the SD card *kicks self*
ive been hesitent to get the latest rom because i dont want to reinstall all my apps and tweaks again, especially when i know ill have to do it for rev.A anyway, lol
thanks for the help, nice to see another chicagoan here (im in the south subs)

Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?

Those programs aren't really the cause...there have been reports of users who don't have them installed that had the reboot loop anyways. I have actually had the reboot loop after a hard reset with no installed programs and reg tweaks...

ScottC said:
Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?
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no and no
havent had the problem again yet, so i havent been able to try the SD thing, but it makes sense since its happenening before autorun apps and services load

jamesus said:
Those programs aren't really the cause...
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I didn't say they were the cause, I was just trying to run past some programs that are known to cause these symptoms.
To flatout say that they are not the cause is just wrong. There is a combination of HTC home and the Audio manager that'll force the unit into a reboot loop you can't get out of.

So no one has found a cause for this? How would this even be feasible if you have startup programs installed on the SD card? I also wanted to put all mail downloads and attachments on the SD, but if I have to pull it out, WM6 creates a Storage Card folder and my actual SD becomes Storage Card 2. It's a pain to have to delete and rename and such especially considering how often the device has to be reset...

Althought the cause is not exactly known, it has been speculated to be a ROM issue. Since flashing to the latest ROM, I have not one reboot loop, and this has been for a few months now.

Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?

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Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?
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This was present in the 2.08 ROM and was fixed with the 2.09 ROM.

I installed the latest DCD rom no programs installed and it just keeps on looping sometimes it stops for a hr or two and than starts looping again

I tried re-installing the original sprint rom but the same thing keeps on hapening

Are you running Spb Pocket Plus? There are known issues by the developers regarding memory, battery, power meters in the Pocket Plus Today Plugin. For more info, go to Spb Club:
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/index.php

I tried everything, I put back the original Sprint rom didn't help. I went back to sprint they tried, coudlln't fix it, I got a new Phone out of the box.
They still have radio 1.32 and Rom 2.09 the blutooth works excellent on this.

I've had to return 2 phones in the last 2 months. My first phone would just freeze up for no reason. I could use the phone for a couple of hours then it freezed. Well the couple of hours soon became a few minutes than only for about a minute. If I took the battery out for awhile then I could turn it on again for a few minutes. It was as if the battery or cpu was getting hot and then freezing up.
The next phone worked good for 2 days and then all of a sudden it just died at the sprint logo. It boots up and shows the rom version with the sprint logo than the rom text disappears and its stuck at the sprint logo. It won't boot any further. It will stay on the sprint logo and the backlight will even go off after a few minutes. Strange... I am about to take this phone back tomorrow.
So far I've had nothing but bad experience with the durability of these phones. Once I get it set up properly it dies... :-(

i got a mogul aswell, nvr happened to me sorry can't help..

I just installed DCD2.3.2-Telus (several times) along with Titan_Radio_3.27.0. At first it worked wonderfully. The second I install anything to do with the GPS though, the system goes into a reboot loop. Actually it even started doing it last night without installing any navigation software.
- Google Maps
- TomTom 6
- Live Search
^^ Those are the 3 I've tried so far and all three have lead into reboot loops. I just flash the ROM again and everything is okay (for a while).
I've also tried running dcd_titan_2.1.0_telus and got the same problem once I installed one of the above Apps.
Does WM6 create dump files like in Windows so I can figure out what the hell is causing this? I want my GPS to work!!!!
After the reboot loops start, I tried removing the SD card as mentionned but it did nothing. Keep in mind I installed the programs to my internal memory.
Update: After flashing the ROM again to 2.3.2, the second I insert my SD card that also triggers the reboot loop.
Update #2: With the stock Rom, it seems to be working fine again. I think it's a problem with the GPS chip itself?

After spending the last few days trying to figure this out, I said the heck with it and contacted HTC to see what they have to say. Will post their reply once I get it. Hopefully there is a fix, because I hate this!! Now, I can't set my Spb Backup to run on auto, otherwise I wake up to the splash screen again....and again.....and again! I get so angry as I wait anxiuosly to see the result, today screen or verizon, and then *buzz*, I'm going crazy!

I had the same problem as you with my XV-6800 using the stock ROM and it always would go into reboot mode unless I ejected the sd card first. I could only put the card back in after it booted up. I also removed two programs from the device's main memory (Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and a task switcher).
I'm currently running SPB mobile shell and SPB Pocket Plus (for the task manager) and it's working fine now.
The only thing I can suggest is to remove one program at a time and reboot to see if maybe there is software conflict

problem with manila2d.exe.. pls help! >_<

hi.. new user here..
just this morning when i woke up, my Touchflo isn't working anymore. an error message showed up saying that there is a problem with Manila2D.exe
i tried soft-resetting my device but it still doesn't fix the problem. the touchflo is enabled in the today settings.
any thoughts on what to do about this?
btw, i have a htc touch 3G, touchflo version 3.0 build 31508
thanks for the help! >_<

jbrian09 said:
hi.. new user here..
just this morning when i woke up, my Touchflo isn't working anymore. an error message showed up saying that there is a problem with Manila2D.exe
i tried soft-resetting my device but it still doesn't fix the problem. the touchflo is enabled in the today settings.
any thoughts on what to do about this?
btw, i have a htc touch 3G, touchflo version 3.0 build 31508
thanks for the help! >_<
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A Hard Reset will probably fix it, but you will lose everything on your phone, so backup your programs / Personal data first.
Ta
Dave

just a thought, did you try to first disable touchflo (so you get standard windows mobile start screen) , soft reset and then enable touchflo again?

jbrian09 said:
hi.. new user here..
just this morning when i woke up, my Touchflo isn't working anymore. an error message showed up saying that there is a problem with Manila2D.exe
i tried soft-resetting my device but it still doesn't fix the problem. the touchflo is enabled in the today settings.
any thoughts on what to do about this?
btw, i have a htc touch 3G, touchflo version 3.0 build 31508
thanks for the help! >_<
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hi jbrian09,
did you try the hard reset? did it work?
i'm also encountering the same problem with my htc touch 3G phone

same problem here
hi guys,
i have the same problem here. i've tried to deselect Touchflo from today and soft reset and only then re-enable Touchflo, sadly it still doesn't work.
even more frustrating is the fact that this has happened at least 3 times before on 3 separate occasions. everytime it happened it had to backup all my data (Thank God for Pimbackup) and hard reset. This is seriously frustrating, it sucks that HTC would put out a phone that works this badly.
What's worse is that after the first time this happened, I was unable to re-install Mapking because it only works on a freshly formatted SD card.
So i guess in the end all we can do is hard reset the phone everytime this happens. it just happened to me again today and as much as i LOVE the Touchflo interface, I'm giving it the boot.
Probably gonna use something like SPB Mobile shell instead, until I can afford to get rid of this phone and get a blackberry.
This whole experience has really ruined my confidence in HTC phones.

rakuen said:
hi guys,
i have the same problem here. i've tried to deselect Touchflo from today and soft reset and only then re-enable Touchflo, sadly it still doesn't work.
even more frustrating is the fact that this has happened at least 3 times before on 3 separate occasions. everytime it happened it had to backup all my data (Thank God for Pimbackup) and hard reset. This is seriously frustrating, it sucks that HTC would put out a phone that works this badly.
What's worse is that after the first time this happened, I was unable to re-install Mapking because it only works on a freshly formatted SD card.
So i guess in the end all we can do is hard reset the phone everytime this happens. it just happened to me again today and as much as i LOVE the Touchflo interface, I'm giving it the boot.
Probably gonna use something like SPB Mobile shell instead, until I can afford to get rid of this phone and get a blackberry.
This whole experience has really ruined my confidence in HTC phones.
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Why don't you try to reinstall M2D, the xda version.
I've used Jade for a year now, never once it failed me. Installing and reinstalling several apps many many times, heavily customised my M2D.... no problem.
Reinstalling Mapking should not requires a freshly formatted SD card. I've reinstalled it, when I accidently deleted it... no problem.

I have problem like this, when i got the phone it was with HTC Touch Flo, when i put my card in it and start the phone Touch Flo disappeared, and now its not even in today-items. Please help me or give me a link to working Manila 2D for my Touch 3g, thanx in advance

Need help with today screen failing to boot up

Okay, so yesterday i installed Skyfire and SPB Insight. It was allright, reboot was fine, but i didn't like the software so i uninstalled them.
After that, the phone works fine, then i reboot it and it just doesnt reboot. It passed the SE logo, Xperia splash, and the Windows Mobile Logo. It then stops while loading my today plugin. Nothing i can do about it.
I reset it through the reset button, and it only managed to load my phone 1 time out of 5 reboot. By now im thinking that it there were conflict with my plugin after that uninstall so i just Hard Reset my phone, and load the backup from SPB (only contact, task, email and messages, no program)
It then goes well, until the problem happened again
I had less software installed (didn't use a lot of it last time around) and all the software i have now was just fine when i had them installed in my phone a while ago. So whatever the problem was, it survived through hard reset. Unfortunately
I suspect this has something to do with today screen. All plugin that i have now (added one) are SPB Wireless monitor, SPB Backup, Beejive. I only use SPB wireless as my plugin, the rest is not.
So what should i do now? What might be the problem? Im on R1A, so i suspect it might be a bug, and im hanging on to wait till R3A comes out...or should i just flash custom ROM?
If anybody could shed some light on this, i would be very gratefull.
Regards
Sheen

give the battery the full " charge "

Have you checked |START|SETTINGS|PERSONAL|TODAY|ITEMS| to make sure your today screen items are checked?

@lakeg
Full charge?
Its not about the battery....the phone has no problem with hardware, it just stucks in that today screen unable to load the plugin
Any idea?

buzz83 said:
Have you checked |START|SETTINGS|PERSONAL|TODAY|ITEMS| to make sure your today screen items are checked?
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Yes, i did unchecked the Skyfire and SPB insight before i uninstalled them.
After Hard Reset i only have the Date, SPB Wireless, Messages, Calendar, and Lock device checked.
Also i might add, after i unsinstalled them my today screen was behaving weird. The today items that i use was swapping order, i tried to change them around again, soft reset, and the problem happened
Edit: Totally off topic, u live in Newcastle mate? i use to live there in Jesmond

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After Hard Reset i only have the Date, SPB Wireless, Messages, Calendar, and Lock device checked.
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If you are still having problems after a hard reset (|START|SETTINGS|SYSTEM|CLEAR STORAGE|) there might have been a change to your registry which is stuffing things up. Might be best to reflash your rom or flash a new one (Touch-It 7.1 is great!)
Edit: Totally off topic, u live in Newcastle mate? i use to live there in Jesmond
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Yep. I live in Stockton but work in Hamilton. Its a small world

buzz83 said:
If you are still having problems after a hard reset (|START|SETTINGS|SYSTEM|CLEAR STORAGE|) there might have been a change to your registry which is stuffing things up. Might be best to reflash your rom or flash a new one (Touch-It 7.1 is great!)
I did the hard reset via the hardware button method. Is there any different with the Clear Storage method?
And correct me if im wrong, but through hard reset isn't that means that we "reset" everything back to factory state? i mean the registry should just be reset back to default isn't it?
I'll hang on a bit while waiting for R3A, if it doesn't come out in 2 weeks or so i'll probably flash one of itje's ROM...but again, how about the change in registry that stuffed my phone up?
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Not sure if it makes any difference what so ever. I also don't know if registry changes revert back after a hard reset. It just seems odd that you are still having issues after a hard reset...
Anyway... nothing a new rom won't fix.
Goodluck with it

buzz83 said:
Not sure if it makes any difference what so ever. I also don't know if registry changes revert back after a hard reset. It just seems odd that you are still having issues after a hard reset...
Anyway... nothing a new rom won't fix.
Goodluck with it
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alrighty then, thanks for ur help then mate

just an update on my problem,
It seems that the culprit behind it all is my provider. Yes, u read it right...the provider. My Cellular provider has been having problem lately with their services. Dropped calls, late sms, and most annoying of all a slow/barely useable internet conection. The signal would shows that its fine, but in reality it doesn't. It just shows that i have signal but the network sometimes doesnt work.
This i think might be the problem why my phone stuck on today screen. It sometimes shows that i have no signal and then just freeze, or it sometimes shows that i have signal but freeze anyway. My solution to this is that i put my phone into flight mode every time i want to soft reset it, no problem so far....it goes away smoothly into the today screen.
i'll keep u guys updated if this method fails

Nope...it still doesnt work...
i hard reset my phone twice today because the problem still persist....its driving me nuts
Can anybody help? please....
All i can do now is wait patiently for R3A and hope it'll fix this problem....if not, im giving up on my X1...so frustrating...

HTC Magic (Sapphire) keeps rebooting

Hey
I have a problem, my phone keeps rebooting, i have rootet it with the Hero Rom, and yesterday everything worked perfectly, but when i wanted to use the camera i little while ago, the phone restarted. So i thought i would try andd do a phone reset, but when i did, the phone keeps restarting, it shows the HERO logo, and then kind of reboot, the screen goes black and its showing the HERO logo again. It keeps doing that until i take out the battery.
Can any1 help me with this problem? any suggestions will be appreciated, im kind of desperate
Per

omg i having the same problem...did you fix your phone yet?

I'm having this problem too Anyone have a solution? My HTC Magic just keeps showing the "htc" logo and refreshes every ~5 seconds. Tried taking battery and microSD out, no luck. The last app I used was Alarmania.

i wonder if i could download a different rom to a different sdcard an then load it up to my MT3G

Issue Solved!
I just called Rogers and spoke to a very helpful Rogers tech support rep. This is the solution he offered and it worked for me:
1. When the phone is off, press and hold the Home and Power button until the phone comes on.
2. You should see a little icon with an exclamation mark. Now press and hold the Home and Power button again.
3. You should see some instructions and some options. Use the trackball to select Factory reset. This will erase all your phone's data, but if you're in the cloud (ie your contacts are with Google), you should be fine, you'll just have to reconfigure everything (ie mail accounts, keyboard calibration, home screens, app downloads and preferences).
I hope that helps. I just spent a very unhappy 12 hours without my phone.
FYI: I have a non-rooted Rogers HTC Magic with no mods whatsoever. The problem started one random night when I wasn't using my phone, it just got stuck at the HTC logo like it was about to restart, and it just kept refreshing the logo.

dang my phone is rooted

Another 24 hours later and I have the same problem. My phone went into a perpetual restart last night, it just got stuck at the boot screen, so I had to do a factory reset again. Any advice on what I should do? The nightly factory reset is not a solution.

Spoke to someone on another forum with the same problem. This problem seems to happen when you use alarm clock apps. The problem happened to me whenever I was setting an alarm in Alarmania or Alarming. I'll try the phone without an alarm clock app and keep you guys updated.

I've been doing a lot of research on this the past week. I did not have this problem on my sapphire until after I rooted my phone. I've tried 3 different android custom roms. They all seem to work well at the beginning and then the random reboot occurs maybe a day or two into regular use.
Whats seems to be interesting is I've heard a lot of people in the US say it was after the 1.6 update. So I'm going to try using 1.5 again to see what happens.
I haven't even tried the HERO Rom. I had no interest in it I just wanted my phone to run faster. This could be an underlying problem in the android OS. It could also be the crappy HTC quality starting to come out .
this is the first thread that I've seen someone who didnt have a rooted phone with this issue. Could mean it IS a hardware thing.
Anyways I'll keep you guys posted. Its a crappy problem for sure.

try using another sd card,format a new sd to fat 32 ,copy paste the custom rom you want,boot into recovery mode,wipe data,wipe cache and flash the rom,that works for me.

kerdum said:
I've been doing a lot of research on this the past week. I did not have this problem on my sapphire until after I rooted my phone. I've tried 3 different android custom roms. They all seem to work well at the beginning and then the random reboot occurs maybe a day or two into regular use.
Whats seems to be interesting is I've heard a lot of people in the US say it was after the 1.6 update. So I'm going to try using 1.5 again to see what happens.
I haven't even tried the HERO Rom. I had no interest in it I just wanted my phone to run faster. This could be an underlying problem in the android OS. It could also be the crappy HTC quality starting to come out .
this is the first thread that I've seen someone who didnt have a rooted phone with this issue. Could mean it IS a hardware thing.
Anyways I'll keep you guys posted. Its a crappy problem for sure.
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I can confirm this. I have a mytouch 3g, and with 1.5, the camera was working fine. As soon as I got the OTA 1.6 update, the camera would cause random rebooting.
I called T-Mobile USA and had a replacement phone sent to me. I got the phone, didn't install any apps, and waited until I got the OTA 1.6 update again, tested the camera several times, and got no reboots. I flashed dwang's 1.6 ROM and I am still reboot-free.

this prob anyone got fixed??

hi there,
it seems as if i had the same problem. i got an htc magic with android 1.5 (swiss edition), i guess, and after i installed alarmania and had it alarming, it rebooted. instead of showing me the home screen, it just shows a htc brand and makes a sound, and repeats this after maybe 30 seconds.
i tried taking out the battery for some minutes, didnt work. i tried to go to safe mode (pressing menu and power), but it fell into the same circle, as well as when i tried to do a factory reset. i also tried to take out the battery for 20 hours, but same reaction.
does anyone have an idea what to do? ill try to call htc tomorrow.
thx for your help,
aeronaut
ps: please excuse my bad english, but im swiss. this is the only forum where i found similar problems to mine.

aeronaut said:
hi there,
it seems as if i had the same problem. i got an htc magic with android 1.5 (swiss edition), i guess, and after i installed alarmania and had it alarming, it rebooted. instead of showing me the home screen, it just shows a htc brand and makes a sound, and repeats this after maybe 30 seconds.
i tried taking out the battery for some minutes, didnt work. i tried to go to safe mode (pressing menu and power), but it fell into the same circle, as well as when i tried to do a factory reset. i also tried to take out the battery for 20 hours, but same reaction.
does anyone have an idea what to do? ill try to call htc tomorrow.
thx for your help,
aeronaut
ps: please excuse my bad english, but im swiss. this is the only forum where i found similar problems to mine.
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This won't help you at this point but there seems to be a trend happening. Could it be Alarmania!? My suggestion would be to not use that app as it seems to cause problems. As per the camera causing the same issue, I'm not sure if there is an update for your phones but I just recieved an update for mine (Rogers HTC Magic) and I also got stuck in a boot loop after installing the first update. I had to use a Mini SDcard adapter that I purchased at my nearest electronics dealer for ei. BestBuy. It came with a class 4 4gb SDcard and it fits on my keychain. Basically you can use this to put a new IMG on your SDcard and then reboot your phone into fastboot. The IMG will automatically install (just follow the instructions). One issue may be finding the new correct IMG that you need but I`m sure you won`t have too much of a problem finding it on an established forum such as XDA. Good luck

thx for your help, but im not able to "restart" my phone normally - as i said, not even the factory reset mode is working. any other idea without flashing the ROM?

flashing only
thank goodness I've made recovery image just before installing Alarmania - Alarms is the same
Alarmed Litle is one that worked but it crash every system start

I was having the same problem, but this, which I found on the "Canadian HTC Magic Gets Sense UI and 911 Fix" threat at androidguys.com
"If you're getting the never-ending boot screen, your phone is -not- bricked. you just haven't finished the second part. you NEED a micro-sd adapter. Turn the phone off (take out the battery), and have a micro-sd card adapter. while the phone is off, take out the sd card and plug it on your comp and delete SAPPIMG.zip from the memory card. Once that's deleted, you need to extract "HTC_Magic_Update_File2.zip" and move "SAPPIMG.zip to the memory card (it's got the same name as the first "SAPPIMG.zip" file, but the second one is supposed to be around 85mb, so don't confuse the two) after that, just repeat steps 3-8 from the first part and that should finish the update on the phone. (this part takes a while, so be patient)"
Cheers

Yes but it is only when "flashing phone was aborted".
It is not for "after instaling Alarmania" on a phone without
Sense UI.
Data WIPE not worked for me, only reflashing phone with my saved flash image (thank gooddess that I've backuped my phone beforehand) done the trick.

well, its funny, i understood the reset page on the htc homepage wrong - i called their hotline, and i was able to reset it. but some days after, i have the same prob. i dunno if it is caused by any other app i have installed during these days (i do not remember as well), but ill try to get a newer rom onto my magic