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Friends,
Just recently purchased through AT+T the S9 Motorola bluetooth wireless headset. I was wondering what is the difference in sound for the Motorola S9 compared to the S9-HD?
Please advise.
tvos
When I first read your thread title I thought I was going to have to solve a complicated math equation.
The answer is obviously 2.
what is the difference, that is what i am asking...!
do you really hear the difference between the two bluetooth headsets?
tvos
Lol @ X2D.
The difference is between sound, battery life, and the ability to handle sweat. They both suck at reception, although the S9HD does have better bass. I like that the S9HD can handle sweat, while soon enough, S9's will die from it.
I decided to bail on the s9 and order the s9+hd... i tested s9 and it does sound really good and with srs working (extra bass) no complaints here.. but I do want to use this for working out and not having to spend $$ every six months because it shorts out due to water.
tvos
tvos said:
I decided to bail on the s9 and order the s9+hd... i tested s9 and it does sound really good and with srs working (extra bass) no complaints here.. but I do want to use this for working out and not having to spend $$ every six months because it shorts out due to water.
tvos
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Bail? As in return? Give up? Put in a drawer? lol.
return it...while awaiting my s9+hd..
i used my $50.00 refund from the fuze I purchased towards the s9 which at&t sold it for $100.00 costing me $50.00. I found a site on-line for $70.00 which in the end costs me $20.00 for the s9+hd
tvos
S9+hd + srs wow
Just recently returned the S9 for S9+HD and very impressed!
With these two applications it is definitely well worth the investment. I didn't have any problems with reception even up to 30ft.
I definite must have hardware!
tvos
I also upgraded from the regular S9 to the S9-HD and have been very happy. I can't honestly say that I can tell about the sound quality, but the reception and fit is better.
you should definitely install SRS WOW on the diamond... its an incredible difference..
tvos
Never had a problem at all with reception on my S9. Never any static, and works a great distance from the phone.
I'm a fat sweaty guy, and I use mine at the gym. NEVER had a problem with it, but I hear others do. I'm going to assume people just leave the usb cover open or something when they use them.
I had an S9 like a year ago with my Dash and I had to return it twice. I sweat ALOT and it could not handle it. Hopefully the S9HD is better.
is there a carrying case to protect these headphones? i had to return my headphones because there was a rattle coming from the left ear piece.
other than that - i normally clean the stereo headphones from sweat so that way they will be clean.. preventive maintenance..
i have noticed after having the headphones on for awhile, the ears start to ache a bit..
tvos
kbcherry said:
I also upgraded from the regular S9 to the S9-HD and have been very happy. I can't honestly say that I can tell about the sound quality, but the reception and fit is better.
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how do you carry the headphones around? do you use a bag, I am afraid that they will be damaged in transit.. I was wondering if there was a case that will protect them?
also, do you get a rattle from the headphones? i RMA'd my first headphone, recieved the new one.. same problem.. or it might be the ear bud.
please advise
tvos
I have a pair now that I use on a daily basis. I have had little problems with them. They sound great, pair to phone easy. (did come across one rom they didn't work with, but that was not the headphones fault)
I picked mine up not long ago for only $60.
mine ran me around $79.00 - I picked up the S9+HD and not the S9 which is a older version.
I noticed a littel rattle in the earpiece.. not sure if it is the rubber part or something inside. I rma'd the first one back to shopcell and recieved new one.. same thing.. so I question this.
do you have this issue? I am a jogger.
tvos
Have any you trie the JayBirds? How do they compare to the S9 HD?
tvos said:
is there a carrying case to protect these headphones? i had to return my headphones because there was a rattle coming from the left ear piece.
other than that - i normally clean the stereo headphones from sweat so that way they will be clean.. preventive maintenance..
i have noticed after having the headphones on for awhile, the ears start to ache a bit..
tvos
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Holy crap what are you people doing to these things. I have the S9 and I have personally had 0 problems. I use them to mow the grass, I even wear them with my motorcycle. Great sound and reception. Never a problem with carrying them around as i pull them out of my ears and let them hang on my neck.
Now the only real issue i have is the speaker head is a little big for my ears, so after a few hours of them in my ears start to hurt. other than that my use of them has been great. Sorry to hear you all have had issues with them.
I ordered a s9 via ebay (31bucks + free shipping). I'm hoping to see it this coming week.
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Never had a problem at all with reception on my S9. Never any static, and works a great distance from the phone.
I'm a fat sweaty guy, and I use mine at the gym. NEVER had a problem with it, but I hear others do. I'm going to assume people just leave the usb cover open or something when they use them.
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I owned a S9 . By now are unusable. Is a matter of time when controls start to fail when is exposed to sweat. Besides this, I think are great and unique design. Hopefully Motorola can address this problem.
So here in buffalo we had the Chase Corporate Challenge this past week. I was pretty excited to have my evo, both for music, and to use as a timer (if you've ever walked/run the corporate challenge, you know that you'll never get an accurate time unless you take time tracking into your own hands). Not being much of a runner (besides occasional run-ins with the treadmill at the gym) I hadn't gone jogging with my phone before, so I was pretty dismayed when my phone started to completely act up on me.
First off, my music kept skipping and going to the next track. On top of that, for some reason, my phone kept going into voice search mode. Lastly I discovered that the route/timing tracking software I was using must have gotten itself paused for a large chunk of my run in the middle... completely losing where I was and ruining any chance at getting a real time for my run. What made it even worse is about 80% of my company is iPhone users... so the whole thing was pretty embarrassing.
I have a few theories that I need to test as to why it acted so flaky... I kept it in my pocket the whole time. After the run when I was diagnosing, I noticed that when I jiggled the headphone plug, the phone would pause/play the music and sometimes go into voice command mode. I can only imagine that on top of that, the power button must have kept getting pressed when it was flying around in my pocket and somehow my thigh was hitting the pause/play button on the lockscreen. As for the route tracking software, I have no idea... it probably got confused when my phone kept doing all the other things.
So this post is partly a rant, but I'd like to know, has anyone else gone running with their phone? Have their adventures been more successful than mine? And what the heck is up with the voice command thing? Maybe it was the headphones I was using sending odd signals somehow through the jack? Does anyone have any ideas there? At some point I want to get a pair of BT stereo headphones, but it seems like even then not all my problems will be solved... Very annoyed.
At least the good news is I think I came in first out of the "XXL" category here in buffalo... if only they tracked the results by weight, I'd be a superstar
I have no idea if this would cause a problem because I haven't researched how it works, but I wonder if the phone's proximity switch could cause problems when jogging/running.
You should try and get a waist band thing for it or look for something that you can put it on your arm. Just something that can hold it securely in one place.
this has been covered exhaustively, unfortunately not many people seem to care
or they haven't tried the headphone jack out yet.
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698699
Hey
Check out the "list of issues" thread in this forum. #6 sounds like yours
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been running 2 times with music on and using my tracks... everything was perfect.
I jog 4 miles a day and lift weights. Never had those issues. Maybe its just you.
sounds like a bad headphone jack
I run and bike with my EVO and it has been a pleasure. I recommend using CardioTrainer as your work out recorder. It does a great job and even speaks over your music at set intervals to tell you how far you have in what amount of time. It also auto pauses your workout if you take a break and automatically uploads all of the data to a private website.
I went running with my Evo for the first time today.
I strapped it on to am arm band.
It felt a little large at first, but got used to it on my arm after a few minutes.
I played music and also ran Google's "MyTracks" software.
MyTracks uses GPS to log your run and reports all kinds of stats (Pace, Avg moving time, Distance, etc).
I had absolutely no problems.
I agree with other posters that you should try to get an arm band or a belt.
It almost sounds like you were hitting the bottom 4 buttons, but i don't think that is it.
I was listening to music through the headphone jack on my home stereo earlier today and noticed some of the same ****. No skipping, but the song would change by themselves. Happened like 5 times in the course of a couple of hours. Strange.
Just as a side note the BT headphones I have work almost flawless, it's awesome.
the problem with the headphones jack is that it is like the one for the nexus, and the nexus comes with headphones that control playing (play/pause, skip forward/backward). standard headphones don't have the contact that mediates those controls, so when the jack jostles around, it hits that contact point, and causes the skipping issue. as far as i know, only solution is to use a set of headphones with those controls.
which is why i kept the headphones from the N1 when i sold it.
I would never put my EVO in my pocket when I run. In my opinion, a tight belt clip or an arm band are the only solutions.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. It definitely does seem to be a headphone jack issue, as the phone is constantly getting signals to activate voice dialing. I saw there was a DIY mod on android forums that involved bending one of the headphone contacts... I'm trying to decide if I want to try that or just find a set of nexus-style headphones until I get the BT set (BT stereo headphones are pretty pricey so I need to do research before I just throw down $100-200 on a set).
I could try finding an armband... but this thing is huge. good thing I have big arms? Seems more reasonable than a belt clip though, as I don't exactly have a flat stomach lol... seems that having something there while running would be pretty uncomfortable!
How do you run with it in your pocket? Unless you're wearing spandex...
I run with mine but I just hold it in my hand. But I never run more than 5k.
Definitely a headphone problem. If you have crappy headphones with bad contacts or wires, it will confuse the EVO into thinking you are pressing remote buttons on the inline remote.
Also...how do you run with it in your pockets? That would annoy the crap out of me with all the un-anchored weight and probably some chaffing.
where can I get an armband for it?
There are also a number of apps fir the EVO that execute things like skipping songs, taking screen shots, etc by shaking the phone.
It sounds like one of those was running in the background.
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I jog 4 miles a day and lift weights. Never had those issues. Maybe its just you.
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what exactly does lifting weights have to do with anything? or did you just throw that in there for the sake of your e-penis?
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How do you run with it in your pocket? Unless you're wearing spandex...
I run with mine but I just hold it in my hand. But I never run more than 5k.
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Also...how do you run with it in your pockets? That would annoy the crap out of me with all the un-anchored weight and probably some chaffing.
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I have normal running shorts but I've been wearing lightweight cotton plaid golf-type shorts for running recently. They're almost as light as the running shorts and they have deep narrow pockets... didn't bother me at all. Of course I also mentioned that I'm a large guy, so maybe all the fat on my thighs acts as a barrier so it doesn't annoy me haha.
Hey all, watching some flash videos today made me notice how poorly the N1 puts sound out the back speaker, even compared to my old G1. I remember back in my Blackberry days that people used to mod the backs to "let more sound get out", and so I started looking into this...
First off, the speaker is GINORMOUS in relation to the slit. If you look inside the back where the speaker is, you can see a little internal grille, and the small slit for sound to escape. There's also a TON more room where that grille isnt attached to the back (same shape as the slit, only about 5x the size) that could be milled out pretty easily, and still retain the "keep crap out of the back" feature of the grille.
So, this leaves me with a few questions:
Where can I get a replacement back, in case my mill catches a bit more than I anticipate?
Anyone else interested? I figure if I set up to do one, I might as well bang a few others out instead of setting up multiple times.
Once I get a second back, I will be going at this with pics and hopefully notable improvement in projecting sound into my hand, and back toward my face!
I might not be a software hacker, but when it comes to this sort of thing, I figure its the best way I can give back to the community!
Give HTC support a call and tell them your cover doesn't line up properly(I don't think any of them do) they'll send you out a replacement. If they don't they can sell you one for ten bucks I think.
Hope to hear good results from your mod, might do it myself.
I actually think the small slit does something to amplify the sound..
Take the back off, play music, put it on. Notice it gets louder when you place it back on..
I don't know though, but I'll be following this thread!
Wisefire said:
I actually think the small slit does something to amplify the sound..
Take the back off, play music, put it on. Notice it gets louder when you place it back on..
I don't know though, but I'll be following this thread!
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Yea, I think the OP should test and see if there's even a noticeable difference without the back cover. I would think not...
Try removing the cover, sounds WAY worse.
Yes, I completely realize the back sounds bad off, its acting as a resonator, or isolating front from back waves of the speaker, which causes phase cancellation. Thus why im not removing the cover, just making the one hole bigger. It SHOULD not lose the "low end" that it has with the back on (if you want to call it that.
Either way, Im hacking at least one up, Ill post results!
Do it. (poor phone!)
I would suggest to replace the speaker with a Desire one, some people who have both phones pretend it's way louder on Desire, and yes it's the same form factor and size so it should fit
It is quite a bit louder without the cover but sounds bad due to the lack of resonance.
Shouldnt be too bad with just an enlargement, make sure you put something to block out dust. Let us know how it goes.
I've found that attaching one of these to the back quite useful...
or try a vuvuzela
I think the engineer who designed that whole was well aware of resonance qualities. If you make that whole and turns out better, you should apply to HTC job hehe...
@Hummeroid
Good idea ...
What about drilling mini-holes arround the "slit" ?
Instead of making ONE BIG hole ...
Very Interesting mod idea...I think the small drilled holes would be an effective test.
Or just cup your left hand around the back of the phone.
I looking for the out come of this.
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Or just cup your left hand around the back of the phone.
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hah, I've never seen anyone else do it, but I do this all the time if I'm showing people a video or am in a noisy setting (ie. party)
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hah, I've never seen anyone else do it, but I do this all the time if I'm showing people a video or am in a noisy setting (ie. party)
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Nah, everyone does it.. I mostly do it when I want to listen to something quiet, I can turn it down and redirect the sound towards me.
I actually have a really good pair of earphones. I prefer that the main speaker is in the back, instead of in the earpiece like some phones. Prevents earspeaker blowout and call quality is damn good with this phone so far.
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I try to put it up against a wall. Your hand can work to absorb sound waves, thus deadening sound and lowering overall quality; but drywall bounces the sound waves back nearly impeccably. Desks, etc, any hard surface should do the trick.
Yes the phone is real fast, has all this cool stuff like 4" Super AMOLED, GPS, Wifi, HSPA, 1GHz processor, etc., but beyond what they list on the spec sheets, there are many compromises, bad design choices, and cost-cutting for the physical portion of the phone and its usability as a "phone" phone. I am still sticking with the vibrant as it performs well for a smartphone, but it does bother me that I am sort of downgrading in other respects.
For one, Samsung made a bad design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that no one likes. It is basically the entire phone aside from the glass front, and becomes a slimy mess very quickly. It's also not very secure and creaks at the edges where it snaps on the side, or at least mine does. The way it tapers back like an iPhone 3G and has a thickness of less than 10mm makes it hard to hold and unpleasant to use when talking on the phone or using it as a camera. The cheap plastic buttons are also difficult to press because of the thinness, are jittery and not very firm, and the power button should be bigger or on the top because I use my phone with either hand and the power button is made for left hand usage only.
If the Vibrant had not wanted to be a me too of the iPhone 4 as far as thinness, it would be much better to hold like the Samsung Wave, which has actual sides (not chrome edges) that are rounded and comfortable to hold, along with a real shutter button. A thicker phone would have also allowed for a bigger battery and better sensor/lens for the camera if they cared to place one, and who knows why they took out the flash beyond just being cheap. It would also help with the toy feel of the phone by adding some weight to that 118g.
When the screen is off, the phone is definitely not a looker, accented with a cheap chrome trim that has been used on old phones for ages. And I've already said enough about the back. I guess you could say the front can look cool if wiped clean and used as a mirror.
For telephony, I can't say much about call reception, but the actual earpiece and speaker isn't very good. The earpiece is muddy and not very loud compared to all my previous phones. The speaker is terrible for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a garbled mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can't get very loud and has that same garbled mess for sound. I've heard way way better like the stereo speakers on Nokia phones and it seems on par with some of the cheap diminutive fashion candy bars that Sony Ericsson has. I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so bad, or if Samsung has gone cheap again.
I'm not sure what to tell you other than you need to run to the store and swap yours out.
Mine sounds way better than any other phone that I've ever owned.
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The speaker is terrible for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a garbled mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can't get very loud and has that same garbled mess for sound.
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I think there's something wrong with your phone, bro. I can hear my ringtone very loud and amazingly clear over my car stereo (Pioneer HU, Infinity Reference 6.5", 10" subwoofer w/600w).
I couldn’t care less what the phone looks like. It could have a 'scratch and sniff' picture of a rotting cow covered with maggots on the back. That’s what they make gel covers for! I just want it to have an awesome screen, CPU and GPU. It has all that. Qwerty would have been nice for emulators.
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Yeah, your speaker is 'jack'd', I have to turn mine down because it's way to loud!
Well the back cover of all phones aint worth a damn. But i dont care because mine ALWAYS have a case of them. I have a skinomi screen protector on it so i dont have any fingerprints. I am right handed and press the power button with my thumb or if its in my left hand i use my index finger. Maybe you need practice. I can care less about how the phone looks when its off.
I agree you should return your phone.......
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Yes the phone is real fast, has all this cool stuff like 4" Super AMOLED, GPS, Wifi, HSPA, 1GHz processor, etc., but beyond what they list on the spec sheets, there are many compromises, bad design choices, and cost-cutting for the physical portion of the phone and its usability as a "phone" phone. I am still sticking with the vibrant as it performs well for a smartphone, but it does bother me that I am sort of downgrading in other respects.
For one, Samsung made a bad design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that no one likes. It is basically the entire phone aside from the glass front, and becomes a slimy mess very quickly. It's also not very secure and creaks at the edges where it snaps on the side, or at least mine does. The way it tapers back like an iPhone 3G and has a thickness of less than 10mm makes it hard to hold and unpleasant to use when talking on the phone or using it as a camera. The cheap plastic buttons are also difficult to press because of the thinness, are jittery and not very firm, and the power button should be bigger or on the top because I use my phone with either hand and the power button is made for left hand usage only.
If the Vibrant had not wanted to be a me too of the iPhone 4 as far as thinness, it would be much better to hold like the Samsung Wave, which has actual sides (not chrome edges) that are rounded and comfortable to hold, along with a real shutter button. A thicker phone would have also allowed for a bigger battery and better sensor/lens for the camera if they cared to place one, and who knows why they took out the flash beyond just being cheap. It would also help with the toy feel of the phone by adding some weight to that 118g.
When the screen is off, the phone is definitely not a looker, accented with a cheap chrome trim that has been used on old phones for ages. And I've already said enough about the back. I guess you could say the front can look cool if wiped clean and used as a mirror.
For telephony, I can't say much about call reception, but the actual earpiece and speaker isn't very good. The earpiece is muddy and not very loud compared to all my previous phones. The speaker is terrible for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a garbled mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can't get very loud and has that same garbled mess for sound. I've heard way way better like the stereo speakers on Nokia phones and it seems on par with some of the cheap diminutive fashion candy bars that Sony Ericsson has. I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so bad, or if Samsung has gone cheap again.
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LOL WoW tell us how you really feel about the phone, you sound like you ran out and bought it and your pissed that the Sim's game isn't as fun as you thought it was going to be so now the whole phone sucks I'm just sayin...
I haven't really known anyone to complain about a phone being too light.
im with this guy on the phone, coming from the evo, this samsung kind of sucks, im trying to stick it out but i'll probably go back too sprint. tmo's reception is not stellar and samsung software is less then stellar =\.
98classic said:
im with this guy on the phone, coming from the evo, this samsung kind of sucks, im trying to stick it out but i'll probably go back too sprint. tmo's reception is not stellar and samsung software is less then stellar =\.
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TMo's reception works fine for me and the comparison between the Evo and the Vibrant stops at they are both Android phones. Vibrant is far better. But to each their own.
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TMo's reception works fine for me and the comparison between the Evo and the Vibrant stops at they are both Android phones. Vibrant is far better. But to each their own.
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might be the phone but, its far to jumpy, i travel between LA and Portland weekly and only get 3g for about 15 minutes in 3 citys in those 1000 miles. hopefully 2.2 fixes some of the issues.
I guess to each his own, but I love this phone. I've had it next to an EVO and even though the Evo's screen was bigger the Galaxy S screen was definitely more vivid.
I hope you're still within the return period...
Guess there should've been a "IMO" in the title, this phone is fine to me in all those aspects you mentioned.
Thanks for venting, I guess ...
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For one, Samsung made a bad design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that no one likes.
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I wouldnt blame it on Samsung. Since there are many variations to the Galaxy S lineup.
I would blame T-Mobile for ordering a glossy backed phone from Samsung. What Samsung does is they take the order and customize a phone for their customer (T-Mobile) to meet their needs.
Captivate has a different back, Fascinate has a different back, Epic 4G has a different back.
So your argument that it is Samsung's fault for making a bad design decision is fruitless. I like fruit by the way.
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Yes the phone is real fast, has all this cool stuff like 4" Super AMOLED, GPS, Wifi, HSPA, 1GHz processor, etc., but beyond what they list on the spec sheets, there are many compromises, bad design choices, and cost-cutting for the physical portion of the phone and its usability as a "phone" phone. I am still sticking with the vibrant as it performs well for a smartphone, but it does bother me that I am sort of downgrading in other respects.
For one, Samsung made a bad design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that no one likes. It is basically the entire phone aside from the glass front, and becomes a slimy mess very quickly. It's also not very secure and creaks at the edges where it snaps on the side, or at least mine does. The way it tapers back like an iPhone 3G and has a thickness of less than 10mm makes it hard to hold and unpleasant to use when talking on the phone or using it as a camera. The cheap plastic buttons are also difficult to press because of the thinness, are jittery and not very firm, and the power button should be bigger or on the top because I use my phone with either hand and the power button is made for left hand usage only.
If the Vibrant had not wanted to be a me too of the iPhone 4 as far as thinness, it would be much better to hold like the Samsung Wave, which has actual sides (not chrome edges) that are rounded and comfortable to hold, along with a real shutter button. A thicker phone would have also allowed for a bigger battery and better sensor/lens for the camera if they cared to place one, and who knows why they took out the flash beyond just being cheap. It would also help with the toy feel of the phone by adding some weight to that 118g.
When the screen is off, the phone is definitely not a looker, accented with a cheap chrome trim that has been used on old phones for ages. And I've already said enough about the back. I guess you could say the front can look cool if wiped clean and used as a mirror.
For telephony, I can't say much about call reception, but the actual earpiece and speaker isn't very good. The earpiece is muddy and not very loud compared to all my previous phones. The speaker is terrible for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a garbled mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can't get very loud and has that same garbled mess for sound. I've heard way way better like the stereo speakers on Nokia phones and it seems on par with some of the cheap diminutive fashion candy bars that Sony Ericsson has. I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so bad, or if Samsung has gone cheap again.
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The phone is real fast, has all this cool stuff like 4" Super AMOLED, GPS, Wifi, HSPA, 1GHz processor, etc., AND beyond what they list on the spec sheets, there are many great compromises, great design choices, and awesome cost-cutting ideas for the physical portion of the phone and its usability as a "phone" phone. The vibrant as it performs well for a smartphone, but it does'nt bother me that I am sort of upgrading in other respects.
For one, Samsung made a great design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that i like. It is basically the entire phone aside from the glass front, and its easy to clean with one swipy. It's also very secure and does not creaks at the edges where it snaps on the side. The way it tapers back like an iPhone 3G and has a thickness of less than 10mm makes it hard to hold my mouth closed in amazement to use when talking on the phone or using it as a camera. The comfortable plastic buttons are also easy to press because of the thinness, are very firm, and the power button should be applauded because I use my phone with either hand and the power button is made for non complainers.
If the Vibrant had not wanted to be a me too (huh?) of the iPhone 4 as far as thinness, it would be much better to hold like the Samsung Wave, which has actual sides (not chrome edges) that are rounded and comfortable to hold, along with a real shutter button. A thicker phone would have also allowed for a bigger battery and better sensor/lens for the camera and also more expensive if they cared to place one, and who knows why they took out the flash beyond just being cheap (the flash that never existed you mean?). It would also be adding some weight to that 118g. but who wants a heavy phone?
When the screen is off, the phone is definitely a looker, accented with a cool chrome trim that has been great phones for ages. And I've already said enough about the back. i mean its awesome you know cause i get reception unlike a iphone 4. The front can look cool if wiped clean and used as a mirror. (great idea!)
For telephony, I can't say much about call reception, other than amazing but the actual earpiece and speaker is very good. The earpiece is very loud compared to all my previous phones. The speaker is for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a hot mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can get very loud and has that same hot mess for sound. I've heard way way better like the stereo speakers on Nokia phones and it seems on par with some of the candy bars that Sony Ericsson has. I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so good, or if Samsung has gone awesome again.
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I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so good, or if Samsung has gone awesome again.
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ROfl
Nice one
@OP
If you don't like the phone, return it.
If you can't return it, sell it.
There a plenty of people interested in buying this phone.
^ +1
Funny stuff
Humorous, I find the case of the phone to be a mute point as in my case the phone is sitting snug in a rubber body glove with only the screen exposed. To each his own.
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Funny post. Complaint about everything but the GPS. This phone has the biggest capacity battery I have seen for a phone, yet that's too small. The nicest back cover yet. I must be deaf, because I can hear my phone quite well in a 100db engine room. Cheap plastic buttons? There is buttons on this phone? What is he doing, typing the Morse Code on the power button? Or is there some great phone I'm missing?
YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!
I know it sounds a little odd, but I kinda wish the phone was a little heavier. When I was holding the Evo yesterday it felt beefy and really solid.
However with that being said, I really like the fact that when I wear cargo shorts and my phone is in my pocket its not cracking me in the knee like my G1 brick used to do.
I guess you have to take the good with the bad and the bad being its rather light I suppose I can live with unless of course I decide later to duct tap some lead to the battery cover.
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and the power button is made for non complainers.
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LOL!!! I'm glad I wasn't drinking milk, otherwise, my laptop would be bathed in it!
Hello,
does anybody hear an coil whine from the speaker during phone call?
Many people especially older people can't here that, so it would be nice to get feedback from someone who usually can hear that.
No one?
I can hear the coil whine from the top speaker even when not in a call. Just put the phone up to my ear and it's there.
It's not very loud so I'm just dealing with it. I heard it in my first phone before I replaced it due to screen gaps also.
Not the end of the world I guess
I hear it sometimes, but not all the time. And even then only when the room is completely 100% quiet. In a room with normal background noise I don't notice it at all.
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No, as I have the old speaker grill.
You have posted a negative / snarky post on every thread I've looked at today - what is your deal?
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"good" to hear that i'm not the only one. It's really weird that it's noticable without even calling someone. Sometimes I can hear it while laying in bed and that bothers me a lot.
I wrote essential and they just said that they can't do anything for warranty while I'm living in germany. So I told them to just forward my problem to an technican and they did.
So everyone else with the same problem, send essential an message and describe the problem. They just start helping if there are enough people with who complain! Maybe they can fit it via firmware update.
Look at the OnePlus, since the oneplus 2 or 3 there was a microphone bug and it was fixed after the OP5 was released just because there wasn't enough people who complain. I don't want to wait that long.
I definitely have coil whine in my brand new essential ph-1. Pretty persistent when in apps....has anyone else tried antutu benchmark? Mine is much more noticeable then (heavy load)...also it is much more noticeable in the back of the device than the front (I listen by the camera)
I also have a OnePlus 5 and an iPhone 7 that do the same thing...the OnePlus actually makes the noise with the screen off for a while, so the fact that the essential phone is at least silent when off is a plus I guess? I am tempted to ask for a replacement but I feel like every one will have this...it's just an insulation thing
I recieved my second Essential Phone and I can hear a little buzzing from the top speaker but it's ok.
No loud coil whine I think. I didn't test it that much, but the second dosen't bother me that much.
Ordered a third one because on the second one there are bigger gaps between frame and backside.
Maybe there is the same problem like with the pixel 2 devices. Google announced that they will provide an fix via update.
Not to beat a dead thread but I just received 2 essential phones from the amazon sale, and I am happy to report, BOTH devices have the same noise as you describe. Why am I happy? Because I can confirm that what you are hearing is the completely normal sound of coil whine!
Coil whine has been an oft documented phenomenon throughout most electronic devices, especially computers, but seems to be making its way into the cell phone world lately (just google Hiss-Gate if you don’t believe me). The fact of the matter is, all electronic devices can produce a hiss from electric coils as more and more current is drawn through them. The hiss actually comes from these coils vibrating with the current load. This is why you may see an increse in noise while gaming or filming 4K etc.
Why, then, are we only hearing about it recently? And why does the essential phone have this “problem”? I’m glad you asked You see, up until about the iPhone 6 era, phones were heavy, large, thick, and had terrible battery life. This all adds up to manufacturers having much more ability to dampen this coil whine. Whether it be through applying a paste like substance over the coils to prevent vibration, or simply thicker chassis material to “trap” noise in. We also hear of it more now because internals in phones are becoming much more powerful, and demanding much more current to run the more complex apps and games that exist today. The more current needed to power these internals, the more chance for coil whine. We also hear of coil whine more and more lately because, historically speaking, the generation of users who noticed the problem (ie the younger generations) are able to detect higher frequencies of sound than the older generation. Coil whine is a high frequency noise.
The reason you are hearing the noise by the speaker is simply because the speaker is located near the coils in this device, and provide an opening for the sound to escape the chassis. There is no water proofing membrane here to trap noise a bit better, so it is a little louder than your galaxies or iPhones (also why the Pixel is seemingly “plagued” more than other phones)
So long story short: this sound is completely normal. Nothing to RMA about (because, well, you’re just wasting time sending a phone back only to get one with the same sound in return). After viewing the teardown, I would actually be MORE concerned if you have a device that didn’t have some coil whine, as that may be a sign that current is not being properly distributed to the components, causing them to attempt to operate without the proper juice.
Thank you for your detailed answer. You saved a lot of time, trouble and money for me because I live in Germany.
That's a bad news actually because after a time it feels like a headache for me because those sounds bothers me a lot. The printer in the office makes me crazy with that sounds but I'm the only one who hears that.
Essential told me their hardware team is working on it so maybe we can just hope that the second Essential Phone don't have that coil whine. .
I had three Essential Phones and the third of them don't have the high pitched noise. It's more like a buzzing and it dosen't bothers me like the high pitched noise. It's the one which seems to have the baddest build quality of them, and the speaker grill come of. Same problem with the second one so I will keep the first one.
Essential offered me an exchance but they can't send it to germany. I think you are right, so the exchance wouldnt help either.
I hear ya. I can pick out abnormalities on phones almost immediately, so I’ve been driven crazy by the humming and chirping of coil whine for over a year now with other devices. At this point I can’t imagine Essential would release a silent version of the Ph-1 with some putty over the coils or something, so if it really bothers you, I’d say hope that they release an update to unclock the internals a bit and leads to a lower power draw (they’ve fixed the camera through software so it could happen!). Just for reference, I am bit of a tech snob and have had many phones this past year, and ALL of the high end phones from iPhone to Samsung can experience this under load. From my brief time with the ph-1, it is in the middle end of the spectrum in terms of noise, not the loudest, not the quietest! At least it’s nearly half the sound as the Pixel 2 non XL!
It’s just the old “they don’t make em like they used to” argument.