i'm using normal 3.5mm headphones to listen to music on my pocketpc and i always have to remove the headphones when talking to a person.
so i'm asking if there is any possibility to activate the phone's mic although a headset is connected?
ya i also want to know .
would be handy for sure...
I think it has something to do with the 3.5 headphone adapter type. When I used certain ones I would not be able to use the mic but when I used a cheap adapter from Radio Shack it would...
Check this thread out - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350314
There is something in post 8 and also a HW hack but this involves new HW.
A thought (to be tested) - maybe it's possible to use 3,5 mm (or 2,5mm) output, split it in two, have headphones on one wire and attach a mic to the other end on ur shirt or smth.
aiiro said:
Check this thread out - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350314
There is something in post 8 and also a HW hack but this involves new HW.
A thought (to be tested) - maybe it's possible to use 3,5 mm (or 2,5mm) output, split it in two, have headphones on one wire and attach a mic to the other end on ur shirt or smth.
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thanks for the link to this thread... for everyone using a phone that doesnt have a 3.5mm direct output, this seems to be the solution! but i use a htc touch hd so i cant connect another cable for my 3.5mm headphones.
maybe there is a solution/hack that lets you modify the headset-profile in general to keep the phone's mic activated. or maybe there is a way to deactivate the headset-profile so someone can write a small app that deactivates the headset-profile as soon as there is an incoming or outgoing call?
Welcome. But by splitting I meant getting a 1 male - 2 female Y-cable, so what do You mean You can't connect another cable? You connect headphones on one female and the headset to the other, why shouldn't it work? I am aware that the HD has a headset that plugs into the audio port. So does my v1520, therefore I would personally be interested in the outcome as I would use the solution to link audio port to car input and use the internal mic as well
Maybe a profile manager like PhoneAlarm (Pro) or similar proggy that has editable and configurable profiles could also do the trick...
this is the wrong place for questions,
please refer to the Q&A section
thank you
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Hi all
I have a MDA compact which I wish to connect to my car stereo as a handsfree unit. I have an auxiliary input for my stereo.
Is it possible just to purchase a 2.5 to 3.5mm lead for this? I have a gut feeling the mic won't work - please help? Is it possible to buy such a lead with a built in mic?
Thanks
Carl
Hi, I used to have a XDAII which I connected to the auxillary port on my car stereo, just like you suggest. It worked perfectly. When using the phone, the caller's voice woudl come out of the car speakers and the mic was powerful enough to pick up my voice even though the unit was mounted on my windscreen.
Unfortuntely, both the Wizard and the Exec automatically disable the mic when you plug into the headphone socket. Not sure about the MDA comact. Sorry couldn't offer more advice on your particular device, but I hope my experiences help.
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Unfortuntely, both the Wizard and the Exec automatically disable the mic when you plug into the headphone socket. Not sure about the MDA comact.
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I do have the same setup. I can confirm U the mic still work after U plug in the adapter but I normally use a BT headset when I am in the car.
OK, so I assume that if I purchase a 2.5mm to 3.5mm lead, the mic should work?
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OK, so I assume that if I purchase a 2.5mm to 3.5mm lead, the mic should work?
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Yes. 8)
OK - did some work on this.
I decided to cut the earplugs off of the supplied headset, and attach a 3.5mm socket.
I now have a custom XDA mini lead
All works, however volume from car stereo speakers is extremely low. Any ideas? (Yes, I have checked car volume, phone volume and headphone volume!)
Cheers
Carl
jackleung said:
monster said:
Unfortuntely, both the Wizard and the Exec automatically disable the mic when you plug into the headphone socket. Not sure about the MDA comact.
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I do have the same setup. I can confirm U the mic still work after U plug in the adapter but I normally use a BT headset when I am in the car.
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Hi Jackleung, my mic is being diabled, and i am beginning to think that I may not have the right connector. I have a standard 3.5mm connecting the exec. Can you let me know how you have wired your device with the type of connector? You may be able to solve a longstanding problem of mine.
Thanks in advance.
I found my mic was cancelled with the Mini, hence the custom cable.
hope this helps!
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Hi Jackleung, my mic is being diabled, and i am beginning to think that I may not have the right connector. I have a standard 3.5mm connecting the exec. Can you let me know how you have wired your device with the type of connector? You may be able to solve a longstanding problem of mine.
Thanks in advance.
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I think my adapter is just a standard 2.5mm to 3.5mm converter. I tried 2 different adapter (one from Radio shack and the other one from ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-CABLE-headp...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Both are working for me (I will try again today and confirm U tomorrow), therefore I think yr problem is in the exec hardware itself.
To Carl,
Yr setup will not work since yr supplied headset adapter has at least 4 connection on the plug compare to 3 on the standard one. The extra connection is for the mic. If U cut the wire like this:
<---- X --- mic+volumn control ------ ear plugs
Then U can no longer use the mic w/ the custom wire. But if U:
<------- mic+volumn control -- X ---- ear plugs
then the mic on yr mic+volumn control will pick up the voice
hi jackleung
Thanks for the reply - the lead was cut after the mic but before the earphones.
This was because a standard lead with a 2.5 / 3.5mm adaptor didnt work.
My only issue now is the low volume!
Cheers
Carl
I tried it on my Imate Jam again. My mic on the Jam still works (eg: Voice Command via Cyberon Voice Dial. So do phone conversation) even I use my 2.5mm/3.5mm adapter to connection it to my car stereo.
Hi,
I did the same for me and a friend of mine with a Univer..er - Jasjar and connected this to an FM transmitter - We have excellent sound quality, volume and the you can still answer calls by pressing the Mic Button
Frikkie
(If you are gonna be late - dont rush, else someone else and YOU will be cross)
check connections?
I have done exactly what you did, put a 3.5mm socket on the end of the included handsfree cable.. volume is fine, and i regularly connect it to the aux in the car, and multiple sets of headphone/speakers...
The best suggestion to your volume problem is to try again.. i know i had issue with the stereo channels getting screwed up (and even combined at one point) and it was just trial and error getting the connections clean..
You have to ensure that both the shaft and tip connectors on the socket are grounded to the shared ground on the circuit board.. otherwise the audio will probably be less than perfect.. check for dodgy soldering/connection.. coz i can assure you that your theory does work!
Dan
There is another topic on this here.
The person from there uses:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=PPCPADPT02
which has two 3.5mm plugs.
Description: It has a 2.5mm plug at one end (this plugs into the PocketPC) and two 3.5mm sockets at the other end (into which you plug your 3.5mm headset or headphones).
My question was: could I put a standard 3.5 car kit mic into this 3.5 headset jack (the one with the mic)? Would the mic work if I plug it into a headset jack?
I assume the other one (headphones = stereo only) I will plug it directly into my car auxiliary via a 3.5mm to RCA cable, right?
I'm curious to know if sound will be passed to the HTC USB aswell as the 3.5" jack ?
I use the E100 adapter all the time as its nice and simple to skip a track and make/answer a call when out and about.
Dont fancy pulling out the HD to skip a track or answer a call all the time
Nogs
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Nobody has any idea ?
I don't the answer to your question, but the answer to your problem is bluetooth. My headphones change volume, track, play/pause and answer the phone. Music resumes after the call. This is using Motorola S805 headphones, WM6 and Mortplayer.
Sound is via jack only, but indeed Bluetooth is a great solution.
Cheers for your replies....
Nogs
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Sound is via jack only, but indeed Bluetooth is a great solution.
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Doesn't the mini USB port need to support sound in order for a wired hands-free headset to work? I'd be really surprised if they a) required a bluetooth headset for hands-free or b) required two jacks (3.5mm and miniUSB) in order to use wired hands-free headset.
If the 3.5 jack has more contacts than just the normal stereo then maybe they have a wired headset that works just from the 3.5mm. It will be interesting to see how they've done it.
It is confusing to me, since the few previewers reported a dedicated audio jack and USB only for charging/data (ActiveSync). HTC in their 16/9 press release do mention the audio jack in the press release, but in the feature list it is not quoted, but there is mention of ExtUSB, but no mention of audio on it. On other HTC press releases for previous models ExtUSB is usually mentioned with audio next to it. Well I guess it is wait and see
Update: This French review in English also says audio jack also for handsfree http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiw5PsQ50Uc
Check the review on GSMArena - the headset works off the audio jack, so no need to have audio via ExtUSB...
Mmm The Earphones supplied are 4 pole, Earth, Mic, Left and Right.
So disapointed if the Ext USB doest carry sound too... Will make the whole Car mount job look untidy but worst is that you will have to take your HD out of your pocket to skip tracks when using the headset... Sorry thats just pants !!!
Nogs
nogs said:
Mmm The Earphones supplied are 4 pole, Earth, Mic, Left and Right.
So disapointed if the Ext USB doest carry sound too... Will make the whole Car mount job look untidy but worst is that you will have to take your HD out of your pocket to skip tracks when using the headset... Sorry thats just pants !!!
Nogs
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what happens on the iphone? or itouch? in this instance.
nogs said:
Mmm The Earphones supplied are 4 pole, Earth, Mic, Left and Right.
So disapointed if the Ext USB doest carry sound too... Will make the whole Car mount job look untidy but worst is that you will have to take your HD out of your pocket to skip tracks when using the headset... Sorry thats just pants !!!
Nogs
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Re in car intergration and control, I like this gadget very much.
http://us.kensington.com/html/14484.html
LiquidAUX™ Bluetooth® Car Kit
It comes with a separate wireless remote control that you can mount anywhere in your car, and the sound outputs via 3.5mm jack, so you can connect it easily to your stereo. In addition it auto-connects very well, meaning its really plug and play. It also comes with a separate USB port for charging, meaning you can still charge your phone via USB while this occupies the cigarette lighter.
Surur
Sorry to bring this back up but are we totally sure that the mini usb doesn't carry audio? I haven't been able to get it to work on my car hands free kit but maybe i'm missing something??
If it doesn't i think HTC have misssed a trick.
I've tried with a couple of audio headsets, always says "not supported, disconnect".
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I've tried with a couple of audio headsets, always says "not supported, disconnect".
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Thats the same message i get, what a shame!
Is this a hardware issue or software? If software we should be able to do so,ething about it?
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Hello everybody. Actually the idea is a bit rubish as you need to open ur own shift and u must know what exacly ur doing. the headset`s stereo jack enters in a small socket, well inside that socket is a small connector for each line (2 sound +1 mic) wich will disconnect the onboard mic and spearkers all u have to do is to solder a small wire between all the 3 points of the mic. Find a service to do it if u dont know how.
Results: the onboard mic will work even if u plugin or not headsets.
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EDITED: I opened and spent 20 mins checking each connection on mainboard and results are NEGATIVE. dont try this home. thank you
Example of a Similar connector
http://hackaday.com/2008/10/13/parts-35mm-stereo-audio-jacks/
Wow , major discovery ! congrats to u , but hv u tried it yrself first ? how well does it work pls ? i will only try dismantel my shift if it was proven that it can be done with yr style , but many thks for sharing anyway , cheers bro - jimmunsw
I used to do and repair electronic devices somewhere between 10 and 15 years ago, that jack functions the same way even today, is the cheapest and easier way to trigger and disconnect main speakers and mic when headset is plugged in. its the mini jack socket used everywhere and if i see a photo of mainboard where this jack is connected; on both sides i can tell you exacly wich is pin 1 3 5 paired with 2 4 6 or 7 8 9, and one more for the ground to confirm my version it must be 9+1 pins of this connection on the mainboard.
in the link above u see an example of a standard socket for x3 jack headset while htc socket seems to have x4 headset 1 for mic 2 for stereo + 1 for ground
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...&sa=N&start=63&um=1&ei=-7EVS5O2KdCd4QbskvTLBQ
please see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS_connector , anyone can atach a photo of the htc mainboard with the best zoom possible to the jack socket pins on both sides?
I thought this to be the case thank you for the imput I am willing to give this a go myself and confirm or deny weather it works this friday so check back in with me on saturday
To enable external mike for phone functions
Is there a similar amateur rewiring that would disable the onboard mike and enable an external mike for phone calls on the SnapVue side?
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I thought this to be the case thank you for the imput I am willing to give this a go myself and confirm or deny weather it works this friday so check back in with me on saturday
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cybericebyte Please atach photos of the mainboard zoomed with the jack section both side, my pc is in waranty cant break my heart opening it yet
Sheepster said:
Is there a similar amateur rewiring that would disable the onboard mike and enable an external mike for phone calls on the SnapVue side?
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I am afraid that u cant as near the mic u have some small other things near ur external mic like a button to answer calls wich should be detected by a software or a volume control. i need to buy one more htc headset to open it. but at least the onboard mic could work when u plugin headsets that might be very cool inside cars
i will see what i can do as fars as pic i dont really have a good camera
bad news, read first post. thank you
If we would be able to attach a bluetooth to the mainboard ....
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EDITED: I opened and spent 20 mins checking each connection on mainboard and results are NEGATIVE. dont try this home. thank you
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what were your full findings?
Results are:
By measuring the ohms on the htc headset i figured out that first 2 pins are the left and right headset and the mic is third right near the ground.
For the analogic swich that i was talking about on 3+1(ground) it means that on motherboard the trs socket shouldve have 6 + 1 pins soldered (a pair of 2 for wich swiches the headset and one more pair for the mic + 1 the ground) while on the shift motherboard i saw only 4+1 wich means that the headsets are the only ones disconnected => mic d/c is digitally swiched.
Ps: I hope im not wrong, last time i did an electronic repair was like 11 years ago
i'm not so sure about this i did some real minor testing with the headset mic only partialy pluged in and my voice through the headset mic was picked up so actualy i belive that the mic is wired to the headset jack but through the left and right speakers but again i am not sure of this wiring
Another ideea
Another idea that i got from someone who still works on fixing phones, soldering etc is that the lastest jumper is a "releu" a small piece of hardware wich disconnects or connects a set of circuits eq: microphone + the stereo line, based on a triger eq: a connector wich exists at the end of the socket jack, and the other pins of the sockets seems to be the sound and the mic from the headsets
someone really needs to do investigations on this, we are just few steps away
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i'm not so sure about this i did some real minor testing with the headset mic only partialy pluged in and my voice through the headset mic was picked up so actualy i belive that the mic is wired to the headset jack but through the left and right speakers but again i am not sure of this wiring
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I can confirm this! I used the HTC headset and left the last ring of the plug (GND?) outside of the socket and mic was working in Notes! (But the speakers are still enabled -.-)
Regards,
Sven
I've was on the market for a high quality audio recorder but they seem way more expensive than they should be (£100+) yet the only difference between price ranges is the options offered to the consumer.
I was wondering if the HD2 works with a microphone such as this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-ECM-DS70P-Microphone-Stereo-Plugin/dp/B00005QBV2 If so, it could probably equal the high end recording devices. 200 bucks worth. See I have the above microphone and I'm trying to record in notes but despite the microphone being read and distinguished by the headphone symbol in the HD2, it's not picking up the sound.
Does anyone know if the HD2 can support external microphones? If maybe a certain program needs to be used to activate it? It could be a great solution for high quality gig recordings and dictations.
The HD2 uses a jack plug with 3 rings, which you can see on the stock headphones, and the mic is wired to the "inboard" ring your mic doesn't have. That's to keep compatibility with any standard headphones.
So yes it can take an external mic, but it needs to be wired correctly to such a plug. And can obviously only be mono.
Then, whether it can record full quality or applies a "telephone" filter to the input needs testing.
Mono would be suffice, but as there are two mics on the external device, wouldn't there be any way to allow stereo?
What kind of plug are you talking about in regards to wiring it to one?
Thanks kilrah for your very useful post.
Just look at the headphones you received with the phone, and compare the plug with the one on your mic, you'll quickly understand
No way to get stereo as the HD2 only has a mono mic input.
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The HD2 uses a jack plug with 3 rings, which you can see on the stock headphones, and the mic is wired to the "inboard" ring your mic doesn't have. That's to keep compatibility with any standard headphones.
So yes it can take an external mic, but it needs to be wired correctly to such a plug. And can obviously only be mono.
Then, whether it can record full quality or applies a "telephone" filter to the input needs testing.
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For the Axim X50 / X51 PDAs there was an adapter that took a 3-connector mic jack and rooted it to the correct ring on the 4-connector Axim socket. I tried to find an example with not much luck, but here is a link to start with:
(I am not allowed to post a link; sorry) go to mobilitysite and look up "seidio-audio-adapters".
Unfortunately, the seidio product does not seem to exist anymore... Anyway, would an adapter like this work on the LEO? I would think so, same concept.
Another alternative would be to use the USB port with sthg like the griffin imic but with a micro-USB adapter. Any chance for this?
Good question.
Anyone offer any enlightenment or an idea on adapters?
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For the Axim X50 / X51 PDAs there was an adapter that took a 3-connector mic jack and rooted it to the correct ring on the 4-connector Axim socket. I tried to find an example with not much luck, but here is a link to start with:
(I am not allowed to post a link; sorry) go to mobilitysite and look up "seidio-audio-adapters".
Unfortunately, the seidio product does not seem to exist anymore... Anyway, would an adapter like this work on the LEO? I would think so, same concept.
Another alternative would be to use the USB port with sthg like the griffin imic but with a micro-USB adapter. Any chance for this?
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I have a slightly different question: if I plug standar eraphones with no mic, when receiving a cal, can i talk into the device's mic?
Yes!
filler
hey i have a problem; my hd 2 running div android versions has a problem with the remotcontrolbutton from the headset. . i have different headsets with and without buttons and my phone is recognizing randomly button pushings, eaven without any button. so it skips songs, start/stops and so on... is there any possebility to turn of the headsetcontrolfunction in android? please help!!!!
send from hd2 ICS
same problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685301
and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6511750
and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288847
and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058932
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097091
Sorry to say but it sounds like the digitizer is on it's way out. Replacing the digitizer is probably the only perminent fix. But don't just take my work for it, keep looking it still may yet be another solution out there for you.
I found a solution without replacing any hardware or soldering.
Follow these steps:
1. Download Android Terminal Emulator: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm
2. Delete your default music player with this tutorial: http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20098610-285/removing-stock-apps-on-rooted-android-devices/ (I use this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860 and my default music player was named: Music.apk)
3. Download Winamp: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5udWxsc29mdC53aW5hbXAiXQ.. (to replace your default music player)
Tell me if it works
Common issue with some headsets & ROM headset driver/software & not related to digi as far as I have seen.
So if its a common issue are there other ways to fix it? Is there no way to just disable headset input?
Seen it in threads & on 2 colleagues HD2s when using some headset types.
Problem is audio feed bridges to remote connector on some leads with less than perfect connectors for the HD2 jack.
Using a standard headset adapted to 3.5mm female after buttons is one good option.
Saw a few threads on people looking for way to isolate remote driver but do not know the outcome but worth doing some searching.
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Using a standard headset adapted to 3.5mm female after buttons is one good option.
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U mean something like this?
http://www.cell-phones-store.info/c...m-headset-adapter-w-mic---send-end-button.jpg
Like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6269816&postcount=20
Done on standard original headset lead it works perfect with after market headsets.
You may also get lucky with adapter like your link ...
What is the model name of that adapter?
And isn't that a 2,5 mm jack?
3.5mm jack added to standard genuine headset, done similar to my original headset and use aftermarket headphones & retain standard remote function without issues.