Does the HD2 work with external microphones? - HD2 General

I've was on the market for a high quality audio recorder but they seem way more expensive than they should be (£100+) yet the only difference between price ranges is the options offered to the consumer.
I was wondering if the HD2 works with a microphone such as this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-ECM-DS70P-Microphone-Stereo-Plugin/dp/B00005QBV2 If so, it could probably equal the high end recording devices. 200 bucks worth. See I have the above microphone and I'm trying to record in notes but despite the microphone being read and distinguished by the headphone symbol in the HD2, it's not picking up the sound.
Does anyone know if the HD2 can support external microphones? If maybe a certain program needs to be used to activate it? It could be a great solution for high quality gig recordings and dictations.

The HD2 uses a jack plug with 3 rings, which you can see on the stock headphones, and the mic is wired to the "inboard" ring your mic doesn't have. That's to keep compatibility with any standard headphones.
So yes it can take an external mic, but it needs to be wired correctly to such a plug. And can obviously only be mono.
Then, whether it can record full quality or applies a "telephone" filter to the input needs testing.

Mono would be suffice, but as there are two mics on the external device, wouldn't there be any way to allow stereo?
What kind of plug are you talking about in regards to wiring it to one?
Thanks kilrah for your very useful post.

Just look at the headphones you received with the phone, and compare the plug with the one on your mic, you'll quickly understand
No way to get stereo as the HD2 only has a mono mic input.

kilrah said:
The HD2 uses a jack plug with 3 rings, which you can see on the stock headphones, and the mic is wired to the "inboard" ring your mic doesn't have. That's to keep compatibility with any standard headphones.
So yes it can take an external mic, but it needs to be wired correctly to such a plug. And can obviously only be mono.
Then, whether it can record full quality or applies a "telephone" filter to the input needs testing.
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For the Axim X50 / X51 PDAs there was an adapter that took a 3-connector mic jack and rooted it to the correct ring on the 4-connector Axim socket. I tried to find an example with not much luck, but here is a link to start with:
(I am not allowed to post a link; sorry) go to mobilitysite and look up "seidio-audio-adapters".
Unfortunately, the seidio product does not seem to exist anymore... Anyway, would an adapter like this work on the LEO? I would think so, same concept.
Another alternative would be to use the USB port with sthg like the griffin imic but with a micro-USB adapter. Any chance for this?

Good question.
Anyone offer any enlightenment or an idea on adapters?
p34cdc2 said:
For the Axim X50 / X51 PDAs there was an adapter that took a 3-connector mic jack and rooted it to the correct ring on the 4-connector Axim socket. I tried to find an example with not much luck, but here is a link to start with:
(I am not allowed to post a link; sorry) go to mobilitysite and look up "seidio-audio-adapters".
Unfortunately, the seidio product does not seem to exist anymore... Anyway, would an adapter like this work on the LEO? I would think so, same concept.
Another alternative would be to use the USB port with sthg like the griffin imic but with a micro-USB adapter. Any chance for this?
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I have a slightly different question: if I plug standar eraphones with no mic, when receiving a cal, can i talk into the device's mic?

Yes!
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Hey,
I was just wondering what kind of headphones i can get for my I-Mate Jam?
Can i just go out and but normal headphones? I dont like the earbud type because they hurt my ears and they always fall out of my ears (I have never been able to wear them)
Thanks
T
Buy an adapter (normal 2,5 mm to 3,5 mm Adapter normally will do it but you can also get special (4 Pin) adapters, for example at www.expansys.com) and connect every headphone you want (with 3,5 mm connector). I recommend Koss headphones because they have the best sounding portable headphones in my opinion. Koss The Plug for example should be able to adapt even to your ears, since it uses foam earpieces which adapt to almost every ear. Better (but more expensive and also bigger) are the Porta Pro series.
Don't bother with adaptors which, in my experience, are never an exact fit.
I would recommend these from Seidio :
http://www.seidio-europe.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HEORSOVXDA3-SL
They're comfortable, lightweight and give decent audio quality.
3 questions:
1) I see the Seidio ones have a 'button' on them. Will this work for the Magician similarly to the include headphones? (i.e. will answer/hangup incoming call).
2) Does the Magician support headphones that have controls for more than just hangup/answer call? For instance, play next music track or stop music?
3) Are there any headphones out there that fit on the magician's connector, have 'the button', AND have an FM radio built in somehow?
Thanks for your help, you guys are great!
Ohters reused the headset that came with the Magician and soldered other headphones onto the box which contains the button.
jamijam said:
3 questions:
1) I see the Seidio ones have a 'button' on them. Will this work for the Magician similarly to the include headphones? (i.e. will answer/hangup incoming call).
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Yes it does. You already know that there is a mic built into the control (?)
Sorry I can't help you with the other 2 questions.
Dandie said:
Ohters reused the headset that came with the Magician and soldered other headphones onto the box which contains the button.
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That's what I did. I'm not very good with a soldering iron but I managed to do it reasonably easily, and the way the microphone/button case prises open means that all the soldering is completely hidden. Here's the link explaining how to do it:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=handsfreethatdoesntsoundlikecrap
the link posted by JPreston looks to be the perfect option.
the only concern I have is would there be a sound difference to use the newly purchased headphones this way or through adapter.
anyone had a chance to compare the headphones through adapter first and then after the soldering operation?
thanks.
I was also thinking about soldering before I saw this: http://www.pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
Just perfect!
Loboman said:
I was also thinking about soldering before I saw this: http://www.pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
Just perfect!
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Had one of those for my Qtek1010 for a while. Lasted about three months before it broke. The cord would have needed better reinforcement where it connects to the plug/mic.
CEBEP said:
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anyone had a chance to compare the headphones through adapter first and then after the soldering operation?
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Sorry, no I fixed mine straightaway. But the sound quality is excellent, and I believe not at all adversely affected by the soldering job, after all that's how the original earphones are attached! TBH I wouldn't imagine that an adaptor would noticeably diminish sound quality either - I just didn't fancy having the adaptor extending the extra couple of centimetres out of the phone.
JPreston
yeah, afterall this looks to be the best solution.

3.5mm Line out adapter?

All,
From looking around I see that I can pickup various 3.5mm headphone adapters, but can't seem to find any line out (non amplified) adapters, do they exist?
If they do, does anyone have a link?
Thanks!
-RT
http://www.semsons.com/
2-in-1 mini USB and 3.5mm Stereo Audio Multi-Adapter for ATT 8525/8925, T-Mobile Dash/Wing, HTC TyTN/TyTN II, Sprint Mogul
Regular price: $9.99
Sale price: $4.99
Or this;
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=151753
Or this;
http://www.boxwave.com/products/stereoconverteradapter/stereo-converter-adapter-at_t-tilt_2906.htm
Or this;
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=01945&dept_id=039&cat_id=0763
I think the OP is actually looking for something different, in his mind, but in actuality is what you guys have posted. The OP seems to think that different 3.5" adapters exist for connecting headphones or just a line out cable (for connecting to the input of an amp, for example). Hence his reference to "non-amplified".
But I don't think there's a difference. I think your suggestions above would get the job done also.
Well ...
I bought one from Tilt Depot ... which is just a 3.5mm plug at the end. I intended to use it with my headset, which turned out to be 2.5mm. I found a converter at Radio Shack, and while my headset does get the audio, the microphone is not being processed
jomo25 said:
I think the OP is actually looking for something different, in his mind, but in actuality is what you guys have posted. The OP seems to think that different 3.5" adapters exist for connecting headphones or just a line out cable (for connecting to the input of an amp, for example). Hence his reference to "non-amplified".
But I don't think there's a difference. I think your suggestions above would get the job done also.
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Right, there is no "Line Out" on the Kaiser but these adapters would work fine to connect to a stereo. Just adjust the Kaiser volume to a lower level that has no distortion. I have found that it has a fairly clean output, my iPaq had a hiss with no audio, the Kaiser is dead quiet.
jdmba said:
I bought one from Tilt Depot ... which is just a 3.5mm plug at the end. I intended to use it with my headset, which turned out to be 2.5mm. I found a converter at Radio Shack, and while my headset does get the audio, the microphone is not being processed
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This adapter or something like it might serve your needs a bit better.
Ahhh... Well, that explains why I didn't have much luck finding a line-out adapter.. Guess I'll go for one of the normal stereo ones...
Thanks guys!
-RT
RogueTrooper said:
Ahhh... Well, that explains why I didn't have much luck finding a line-out adapter.. Guess I'll go for one of the normal stereo ones...
Thanks guys!
-RT
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The HTC ones can be had from (I think) LA on Ebay for about $8/shipped. Lowest *I've* seen of them stateside.
Danger Will Robinson, Danger
Just a heads up.
I bought one of these from TiltDepot to use with my wired headset (not a fan of bluetooth, and you don't have to charge a wired headset).
Putting aside that the adapter is 3.5mm and the headset plug is 3/32", when I further adapted 3.5mm to 3/32, the earpieces worked fine, but not the microphone.

Sound from 3.5" jack and HTC usb ??

I'm curious to know if sound will be passed to the HTC USB aswell as the 3.5" jack ?
I use the E100 adapter all the time as its nice and simple to skip a track and make/answer a call when out and about.
Dont fancy pulling out the HD to skip a track or answer a call all the time
Nogs
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Nobody has any idea ?
I don't the answer to your question, but the answer to your problem is bluetooth. My headphones change volume, track, play/pause and answer the phone. Music resumes after the call. This is using Motorola S805 headphones, WM6 and Mortplayer.
Sound is via jack only, but indeed Bluetooth is a great solution.
Cheers for your replies....
Nogs
Lucas0511 said:
Sound is via jack only, but indeed Bluetooth is a great solution.
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Doesn't the mini USB port need to support sound in order for a wired hands-free headset to work? I'd be really surprised if they a) required a bluetooth headset for hands-free or b) required two jacks (3.5mm and miniUSB) in order to use wired hands-free headset.
If the 3.5 jack has more contacts than just the normal stereo then maybe they have a wired headset that works just from the 3.5mm. It will be interesting to see how they've done it.
It is confusing to me, since the few previewers reported a dedicated audio jack and USB only for charging/data (ActiveSync). HTC in their 16/9 press release do mention the audio jack in the press release, but in the feature list it is not quoted, but there is mention of ExtUSB, but no mention of audio on it. On other HTC press releases for previous models ExtUSB is usually mentioned with audio next to it. Well I guess it is wait and see
Update: This French review in English also says audio jack also for handsfree http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiw5PsQ50Uc
Check the review on GSMArena - the headset works off the audio jack, so no need to have audio via ExtUSB...
Mmm The Earphones supplied are 4 pole, Earth, Mic, Left and Right.
So disapointed if the Ext USB doest carry sound too... Will make the whole Car mount job look untidy but worst is that you will have to take your HD out of your pocket to skip tracks when using the headset... Sorry thats just pants !!!
Nogs
nogs said:
Mmm The Earphones supplied are 4 pole, Earth, Mic, Left and Right.
So disapointed if the Ext USB doest carry sound too... Will make the whole Car mount job look untidy but worst is that you will have to take your HD out of your pocket to skip tracks when using the headset... Sorry thats just pants !!!
Nogs
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what happens on the iphone? or itouch? in this instance.
nogs said:
Mmm The Earphones supplied are 4 pole, Earth, Mic, Left and Right.
So disapointed if the Ext USB doest carry sound too... Will make the whole Car mount job look untidy but worst is that you will have to take your HD out of your pocket to skip tracks when using the headset... Sorry thats just pants !!!
Nogs
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Re in car intergration and control, I like this gadget very much.
http://us.kensington.com/html/14484.html
LiquidAUX™ Bluetooth® Car Kit
It comes with a separate wireless remote control that you can mount anywhere in your car, and the sound outputs via 3.5mm jack, so you can connect it easily to your stereo. In addition it auto-connects very well, meaning its really plug and play. It also comes with a separate USB port for charging, meaning you can still charge your phone via USB while this occupies the cigarette lighter.
Surur
Sorry to bring this back up but are we totally sure that the mini usb doesn't carry audio? I haven't been able to get it to work on my car hands free kit but maybe i'm missing something??
If it doesn't i think HTC have misssed a trick.
I've tried with a couple of audio headsets, always says "not supported, disconnect".
rickgillyon said:
I've tried with a couple of audio headsets, always says "not supported, disconnect".
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Thats the same message i get, what a shame!
Is this a hardware issue or software? If software we should be able to do so,ething about it?

using the phone's mic although a headset is connected

i'm using normal 3.5mm headphones to listen to music on my pocketpc and i always have to remove the headphones when talking to a person.
so i'm asking if there is any possibility to activate the phone's mic although a headset is connected?
ya i also want to know .
would be handy for sure...
I think it has something to do with the 3.5 headphone adapter type. When I used certain ones I would not be able to use the mic but when I used a cheap adapter from Radio Shack it would...
Check this thread out - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350314
There is something in post 8 and also a HW hack but this involves new HW.
A thought (to be tested) - maybe it's possible to use 3,5 mm (or 2,5mm) output, split it in two, have headphones on one wire and attach a mic to the other end on ur shirt or smth.
aiiro said:
Check this thread out - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350314
There is something in post 8 and also a HW hack but this involves new HW.
A thought (to be tested) - maybe it's possible to use 3,5 mm (or 2,5mm) output, split it in two, have headphones on one wire and attach a mic to the other end on ur shirt or smth.
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thanks for the link to this thread... for everyone using a phone that doesnt have a 3.5mm direct output, this seems to be the solution! but i use a htc touch hd so i cant connect another cable for my 3.5mm headphones.
maybe there is a solution/hack that lets you modify the headset-profile in general to keep the phone's mic activated. or maybe there is a way to deactivate the headset-profile so someone can write a small app that deactivates the headset-profile as soon as there is an incoming or outgoing call?
Welcome. But by splitting I meant getting a 1 male - 2 female Y-cable, so what do You mean You can't connect another cable? You connect headphones on one female and the headset to the other, why shouldn't it work? I am aware that the HD has a headset that plugs into the audio port. So does my v1520, therefore I would personally be interested in the outcome as I would use the solution to link audio port to car input and use the internal mic as well
Maybe a profile manager like PhoneAlarm (Pro) or similar proggy that has editable and configurable profiles could also do the trick...
this is the wrong place for questions,
please refer to the Q&A section
thank you

HTC Headphones Mod, or something...

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Hi, first of all, I did this thread here because I'm not quite asking about the accessories, but about a modification. But if any Moderator thinks this should be moved, please do so.
At any rate, the thing is, I'm still beaten up about the fact that the headphones bundled to the cellphone are such low quality. Ok, there are some superb phones that comes with crappy headset, but you can replace them with any other headphones you have. But this one doesn't support detaching them. That's low quality for me.
So, I went to search for detachable HTC headsets. To my wonder - or bad searching skills - I found none. All are just one-piece headset. Really?
Ok, maybe makes sense when we take into account the fact that for an odd reason, HTC headsets works different than the rest. Just incompatible with other phones.
And here is my question. Is it possible to mod this headphones? My idea is to just trim the original bundled and re-wire the plug to some kind of 4 bands 3,5 female plug, so I can connect non HTC heaphones with mic to this sort of adapter and that could operate the phone.
Or, maybe there's such adapter out there in the world? theory says I'm not the first one to think in this, but I've found nothing so far.
In resume:
a) Are there detachable HTC headsets out there?
b) Is it possible to make an adapter for non HTC headsets?
c) Does this adapter exits already and I'm just wasting time and not money?
bonus) Is there some sort of schematics about HTC headsets? I just can't guess why others are incompatible, but a different wiring...
Many thanks before hand!
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Really? no one? :/ I cant believe everyone is just satisfied using that lousy headset or just headphones with no mic.
why bother. Any set of decent cell phone headphones work great.
I got a pair of rocket fish headphones. It comes with a mic, and a voice dial/answer button that works great on the Aria.
edit: here is a newer version of what i have.
http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/products/mobile-phones-gps/RF-EB22.html
Don't use headphones here, I have bluetooth in my car .
But, I'd suggest buying skull candy headphones, or even the headphones that come with some nokia xpressmusic phones are awesome. (particularly 5800).
i use these skullcandies because i mainly listen to music on my phone they have a mic on them to so i kan use the on a call if i get one while i have them on
I found that if you download a music player with an equalizer built in, you can improve the quality of the sound 100%

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