Headphones - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General

Hey,
I was just wondering what kind of headphones i can get for my I-Mate Jam?
Can i just go out and but normal headphones? I dont like the earbud type because they hurt my ears and they always fall out of my ears (I have never been able to wear them)
Thanks
T

Buy an adapter (normal 2,5 mm to 3,5 mm Adapter normally will do it but you can also get special (4 Pin) adapters, for example at www.expansys.com) and connect every headphone you want (with 3,5 mm connector). I recommend Koss headphones because they have the best sounding portable headphones in my opinion. Koss The Plug for example should be able to adapt even to your ears, since it uses foam earpieces which adapt to almost every ear. Better (but more expensive and also bigger) are the Porta Pro series.

Don't bother with adaptors which, in my experience, are never an exact fit.
I would recommend these from Seidio :
http://www.seidio-europe.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HEORSOVXDA3-SL
They're comfortable, lightweight and give decent audio quality.

3 questions:
1) I see the Seidio ones have a 'button' on them. Will this work for the Magician similarly to the include headphones? (i.e. will answer/hangup incoming call).
2) Does the Magician support headphones that have controls for more than just hangup/answer call? For instance, play next music track or stop music?
3) Are there any headphones out there that fit on the magician's connector, have 'the button', AND have an FM radio built in somehow?
Thanks for your help, you guys are great!

Ohters reused the headset that came with the Magician and soldered other headphones onto the box which contains the button.

jamijam said:
3 questions:
1) I see the Seidio ones have a 'button' on them. Will this work for the Magician similarly to the include headphones? (i.e. will answer/hangup incoming call).
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Yes it does. You already know that there is a mic built into the control (?)
Sorry I can't help you with the other 2 questions.

Dandie said:
Ohters reused the headset that came with the Magician and soldered other headphones onto the box which contains the button.
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That's what I did. I'm not very good with a soldering iron but I managed to do it reasonably easily, and the way the microphone/button case prises open means that all the soldering is completely hidden. Here's the link explaining how to do it:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=handsfreethatdoesntsoundlikecrap

the link posted by JPreston looks to be the perfect option.
the only concern I have is would there be a sound difference to use the newly purchased headphones this way or through adapter.
anyone had a chance to compare the headphones through adapter first and then after the soldering operation?
thanks.

I was also thinking about soldering before I saw this: http://www.pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
Just perfect!

Loboman said:
I was also thinking about soldering before I saw this: http://www.pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
Just perfect!
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Had one of those for my Qtek1010 for a while. Lasted about three months before it broke. The cord would have needed better reinforcement where it connects to the plug/mic.

CEBEP said:
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anyone had a chance to compare the headphones through adapter first and then after the soldering operation?
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Sorry, no I fixed mine straightaway. But the sound quality is excellent, and I believe not at all adversely affected by the soldering job, after all that's how the original earphones are attached! TBH I wouldn't imagine that an adaptor would noticeably diminish sound quality either - I just didn't fancy having the adaptor extending the extra couple of centimetres out of the phone.

JPreston
yeah, afterall this looks to be the best solution.

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Replacement for Mini Headset

I'm looking for replacement for Magician's (wired) headset coz I think the one that comes with it sucks (low audio quality).
Anyone can suggest good alternatives with good MP3 quality (enough bass,...) and also as the phone's handsfree.
Thanks a lot.
If you are handy with a soldering iron, cut off that stupid pair of earbuds and solder on your favorite headset (that's what I did) or you can buy 3rd party adapters. If you solder on new headphones, don't forget to get some of that really cool heat shrink stuff to put over the wires, it turns out very professional looking and very strong.
Hmm...nice idea.
Unfortunately i'm not good at soldering.
So it seems i'm stuck with alternative to find a good earphone+hansfree combo....
SOny Ericsson p900 headset
5x times sound quality, + only one with a microphone that fits the 2.5mm plug. I searched long and hard to get this answer as i cannot solder too
this headset is not a stereo one, rigth ?
There are some adapters that have a built in mic and you plug the 3.5 headhones of your choice into it. There is also a small adapter that is just for audio 2.5-3.5. It is true that the Sony P800-900 headsets are compatible with the Jam. Unfortunately I have yet to hear original earphones that are acceptable to me. I can't remember where I bought it, but the adapter with a built-in mic and 3.5 headphone jack is probably what you are looking for. I use one in my car. Maybe somone has a link for you?
Link herehttp://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT11
Link herehttp://www.pocketpctechs.com/detail.asp?Product_ID=PPCPADPT11
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But in this case, is there any high quality 3.5mm earphone that also work as handsfree for the Jam?
This solution uses the internal mic of the PPC Phone so you can use any high quality headset from your local hi-fi store.
Can you confirm that this doesn't mess up the stereo or do anything else weird?
I found it! This is the adapter that I bought for my Sony P800 years ago(works with Magician). You can use it to plug into your home stereo, favorite headphones and it even has a volume control. Mainly I use it in my car. I use it to plug my Jam into my car stereo and sometimes I use it to plug in the earbud for one ear wired headset communication. ENJOY!
http://pc-mobile.net/sp8aa.htm
I have that. I don't like it too much since it feels very fragile (including the thin wire) and the fact that it isn't a simple straight wire means it snga everywhere.
I only use that adapter in the car. It is good for people that can't make their own headset by soldering. I made a custom headset from Koss headphones and a Sony handsfree. That baby sounds really good, and I'm picky about sound quality.
Does the mic work? Can you accept and end calls using the button?
Thanks,
K
Yes, the above adapter works exactly as the original handsfree headset (+ volume control) except that you have to plug in a normal 3.5 plug stereo headphones. If there are other models out there without the reel thingy, I haven't found it.

8125 Audio Output Jack Problems?

I recently have gone through two different Body Glove Sport Stereo headphones with some issues. I can't decide if I have another faulty headset or if the phone audio connector is the issue. The body glove headset is similar to the headset that comes with the 8125, but it looked more comfortable.
The problem I am having is this, the headphones only play in the right side. Messing with the plug on the headset results in some quick burst of audio on the left side and pulling it out a tad gives me some faint left audio and the right side audio goes out completely. It seems the plug and jack don't quite jive... anyone else experience this? It comes with an adapter for the "bigger jack" and upon trying one of my girls iPods, they work fine with the adapter in the mix.
My application is this... I listen to MP3's while riding my motorcycle and the earphones that came with the phone hurt my ears after a while. Plus they don't have the greatest audio quality. Looking for a comfy replacement, but the above issue has me scratcing my head.
Here is a link to the headphones: here
i think...
i think you have the wrong adapter. i tried using the slvrs adapter with my 8125 and it did not work same prob as you. i went to radioshack and got one from there and it did. im most absolutely sure is the inner wiring. what happens is that there's also a connection for a microphone on the 8125 so some adapters dont work.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~unit~Cingular_8125-559~area~accessories~item~PPCPADPT21.htm
ps my friend got a mono one at radio shack and it worked for him both sides. hes not a audiophile but you get the idea, it has to be the connection of your plug.
The headphones in addition to be being stereo, have the microphone too, I think the paragraph in the page you linked clears up a few questions for me:
Most manufacturers create their devices allowing audio compatibility with only their specific brand headset or headphones. We have designed and engineered several different types of audio adapters to accommodate a variety of devices. Our unique audio adapters give you the freedom to use any standard 2.5/3.5 mm. 3 conductor headset and/or your favorite set of headphones.
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It would seem although the Body Glove headset uses the 2.5mm jack, the internals of the 8125 are off enough that a select few aftermarket stereo headsets with mics will work with the phone. Interesting.
Upon further examination of the jack, it is different than the one that came with the phone. In spite of the BodyGlove being a stereo headet with a mic... just like the one that comes with the phone, the connector is different enough to not with aftermarket stuff I guess. Those dirty rascals!!!
The connector on the left is the one that comes with the 8125, the one on the right is the BodyGlove.
Searched and found this old thread. I went to connect my 8125 Wizard to my cars 3.5 jack using a standard adapter and it only came left channel.
Is there a more cost effective proprietary four-conductor jack to a 3.5 mm converter than posted above at PPC Techs? I was hoping to spend a few dollars.
I'm actually using my old Ngages audio cable to get Stereo sound out of my car stereo. It works but sometimes I can't use the mic on the cell phone to talk.
When it works it's really cool, but otherwise I gotta unplug the cable and use it like a regular phone during phone calls.

3.5mm Line out adapter?

All,
From looking around I see that I can pickup various 3.5mm headphone adapters, but can't seem to find any line out (non amplified) adapters, do they exist?
If they do, does anyone have a link?
Thanks!
-RT
http://www.semsons.com/
2-in-1 mini USB and 3.5mm Stereo Audio Multi-Adapter for ATT 8525/8925, T-Mobile Dash/Wing, HTC TyTN/TyTN II, Sprint Mogul
Regular price: $9.99
Sale price: $4.99
Or this;
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=151753
Or this;
http://www.boxwave.com/products/stereoconverteradapter/stereo-converter-adapter-at_t-tilt_2906.htm
Or this;
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=01945&dept_id=039&cat_id=0763
I think the OP is actually looking for something different, in his mind, but in actuality is what you guys have posted. The OP seems to think that different 3.5" adapters exist for connecting headphones or just a line out cable (for connecting to the input of an amp, for example). Hence his reference to "non-amplified".
But I don't think there's a difference. I think your suggestions above would get the job done also.
Well ...
I bought one from Tilt Depot ... which is just a 3.5mm plug at the end. I intended to use it with my headset, which turned out to be 2.5mm. I found a converter at Radio Shack, and while my headset does get the audio, the microphone is not being processed
jomo25 said:
I think the OP is actually looking for something different, in his mind, but in actuality is what you guys have posted. The OP seems to think that different 3.5" adapters exist for connecting headphones or just a line out cable (for connecting to the input of an amp, for example). Hence his reference to "non-amplified".
But I don't think there's a difference. I think your suggestions above would get the job done also.
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Right, there is no "Line Out" on the Kaiser but these adapters would work fine to connect to a stereo. Just adjust the Kaiser volume to a lower level that has no distortion. I have found that it has a fairly clean output, my iPaq had a hiss with no audio, the Kaiser is dead quiet.
jdmba said:
I bought one from Tilt Depot ... which is just a 3.5mm plug at the end. I intended to use it with my headset, which turned out to be 2.5mm. I found a converter at Radio Shack, and while my headset does get the audio, the microphone is not being processed
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This adapter or something like it might serve your needs a bit better.
Ahhh... Well, that explains why I didn't have much luck finding a line-out adapter.. Guess I'll go for one of the normal stereo ones...
Thanks guys!
-RT
RogueTrooper said:
Ahhh... Well, that explains why I didn't have much luck finding a line-out adapter.. Guess I'll go for one of the normal stereo ones...
Thanks guys!
-RT
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The HTC ones can be had from (I think) LA on Ebay for about $8/shipped. Lowest *I've* seen of them stateside.
Danger Will Robinson, Danger
Just a heads up.
I bought one of these from TiltDepot to use with my wired headset (not a fan of bluetooth, and you don't have to charge a wired headset).
Putting aside that the adapter is 3.5mm and the headset plug is 3/32", when I further adapted 3.5mm to 3/32, the earpieces worked fine, but not the microphone.

Does the HD2 work with external microphones?

I've was on the market for a high quality audio recorder but they seem way more expensive than they should be (£100+) yet the only difference between price ranges is the options offered to the consumer.
I was wondering if the HD2 works with a microphone such as this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-ECM-DS70P-Microphone-Stereo-Plugin/dp/B00005QBV2 If so, it could probably equal the high end recording devices. 200 bucks worth. See I have the above microphone and I'm trying to record in notes but despite the microphone being read and distinguished by the headphone symbol in the HD2, it's not picking up the sound.
Does anyone know if the HD2 can support external microphones? If maybe a certain program needs to be used to activate it? It could be a great solution for high quality gig recordings and dictations.
The HD2 uses a jack plug with 3 rings, which you can see on the stock headphones, and the mic is wired to the "inboard" ring your mic doesn't have. That's to keep compatibility with any standard headphones.
So yes it can take an external mic, but it needs to be wired correctly to such a plug. And can obviously only be mono.
Then, whether it can record full quality or applies a "telephone" filter to the input needs testing.
Mono would be suffice, but as there are two mics on the external device, wouldn't there be any way to allow stereo?
What kind of plug are you talking about in regards to wiring it to one?
Thanks kilrah for your very useful post.
Just look at the headphones you received with the phone, and compare the plug with the one on your mic, you'll quickly understand
No way to get stereo as the HD2 only has a mono mic input.
kilrah said:
The HD2 uses a jack plug with 3 rings, which you can see on the stock headphones, and the mic is wired to the "inboard" ring your mic doesn't have. That's to keep compatibility with any standard headphones.
So yes it can take an external mic, but it needs to be wired correctly to such a plug. And can obviously only be mono.
Then, whether it can record full quality or applies a "telephone" filter to the input needs testing.
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For the Axim X50 / X51 PDAs there was an adapter that took a 3-connector mic jack and rooted it to the correct ring on the 4-connector Axim socket. I tried to find an example with not much luck, but here is a link to start with:
(I am not allowed to post a link; sorry) go to mobilitysite and look up "seidio-audio-adapters".
Unfortunately, the seidio product does not seem to exist anymore... Anyway, would an adapter like this work on the LEO? I would think so, same concept.
Another alternative would be to use the USB port with sthg like the griffin imic but with a micro-USB adapter. Any chance for this?
Good question.
Anyone offer any enlightenment or an idea on adapters?
p34cdc2 said:
For the Axim X50 / X51 PDAs there was an adapter that took a 3-connector mic jack and rooted it to the correct ring on the 4-connector Axim socket. I tried to find an example with not much luck, but here is a link to start with:
(I am not allowed to post a link; sorry) go to mobilitysite and look up "seidio-audio-adapters".
Unfortunately, the seidio product does not seem to exist anymore... Anyway, would an adapter like this work on the LEO? I would think so, same concept.
Another alternative would be to use the USB port with sthg like the griffin imic but with a micro-USB adapter. Any chance for this?
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I have a slightly different question: if I plug standar eraphones with no mic, when receiving a cal, can i talk into the device's mic?
Yes!
filler

[Q] Head phones with mic

Hey people. Thanks for all info, been reading about the defy here for some time. Got one now and I love it. I had a few smartphones before and this is by far the one I would stick to forever if I had to.
So, my question is: Are there any good head phones (in-ear plugs, with mic and maybe even music controlers) avaliable, and that I can be certain to be compatible with the Defy? Or could I just buy any that works fine with other Android or Motorola devices? Motorola is not sold in Sweden where I live, so it's not like I can check out any stores IRL here...
With my Xperia x20 mini, exacly what I described came along with the phone. Too bad that you just got these normal plugs with the defy. Cos there is just no way I would use those. As of now I stick to my old head phones but I'd love the mic function with my In-ear plugs.
Thanks for any help!
Ekholm
Ok, so I found this site:
thinkmotoroladefy.com/wiredheadsets.html
and it's all looking good, except for the part that they are a bit low-priced. I'm looking for high quality ones. I.e my current head phones was about 90 USD.
For information, iphone handsfree works fine
Thanks!
By chance, does anyone know if "Klipsch Image S4i" would work? they seams to be perfect! Volume, track fwd bwd and play...
I got one of these a few months ago, works fine with my HTC Desire. Not the best headphones in the world, but more than capable of handling a bus ride. You can unplug the headphones, clip on a small plastic hook and use it as an in-ear Bluetooth headset too. Two birds with one stone
I can get around 10 hours out of them between charges.
Thanks, it seams to be mono, right? Mono doesnt sound too thrilling...
If you use power amp you can set it up to use the controls on headphones to start and stop music, instead of calling the last number you called. It will work on the lock screen too.
This was the only way of getting it to work i found for the defy and i tried about 10 different headphones with in-line controls. Bluetooth stereo sets like the one above with controls seem to work fine for music however, ive got a sony bluetooth set and the controls worked right away on the standard media player.
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For information, iphone handsfree works fine
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Really? i got philips iphone headset with remote and there is a constant background noise, probably caused by the remote. which headset are you using?
the one that came with my phone has no remote!
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i'm using now my new wesc bongo with handsfree, and they do work great!
Hi everybody I'm new,
Does anyone can confirm this pinout for Defy's jack 3.5mm?
1. Tip - Left audio
2. Ring - Right audio
3. Ring - Ground
4. Sleeve - Mic
or this used in most mobiles:
1. Tip - Left audio
2. Ring - Right audio
3. Ring - Mic
4. Sleeve - Ground
I use Razer Moray+™ they have no remote function so you have to answer the call on the phone. But you have a mic and the work good for musik and phone calls.
anyone got an update for this, still looking for ear buds with a mic.
Klipsch Pro Media set(based on the S4i but a bit better build for traveling etc).
Awesome set up with defy. The S5i rugged set is also great as they are moisture proof and very overbuilt.
Hulkanator said:
anyone got an update for this, still looking for ear buds with a mic.
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I use nokia's Bh214 . Works pretty well!
bether said:
Hi everybody I'm new,
Does anyone can confirm this pinout for Defy's jack 3.5mm?
1. Tip - Left audio
2. Ring - Right audio
3. Ring - Ground
4. Sleeve - Mic
or this used in most mobiles:
1. Tip - Left audio
2. Ring - Right audio
3. Ring - Mic
4. Sleeve - Ground
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Openend up the original Motorola Defy headset and found this:
farm6.static.flickr.com/5256/5451992356_6e55ae0fce.jpg
flickr.com/photos/kikus/5451992356/
(I can not post any outside links because I am a new user )
1. Tip - L
2. Ring - R
3. Ring - M-
4. Ring - M+
(measured with a multimeter - hope this helps)
Thx,
Yeah, exactly as you wrote.
I remade cheap handset with remote (from eg. www.ebay.com).
It works with any headphones
I used my original headset on a iphone before. So I assume that every headset that works on the iphone should also work on the defy.
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I wonder if Sony Ericsson's headsets work. These seem pretty good:
goo.gl/TquJQ
goo.gl/eQc9W
Would be good if they work.
BTW, I tried Samsung Galaxy SL's Stereo In ear handsfree and the sound quality was just awesome! Might get myself one of those!!
I've tried the iPhone standard headphones and sound works but Mic and controls don't. There is a pair of sennheiser mm50 Nokia. Which will work fine. Ordering one shortly.
Hi
I can confirm that at least not all iphone headset work the defy, even if the pinout is identical. I tried the Sennheiser MM70i and they don't work!
I soldered the mic of the standard Headset to the MM70 and now im happy,
but definitely nothing i can recommend
greetings
Killigrew said:
Hi
I can confirm that at least not all iphone headset work the defy, even if the pinout is identical. I tried the Sennheiser MM70i and they don't work!
I soldered the mic of the standard Headset to the MM70 and now im happy,
but definitely nothing i can recommend
greetings
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yes u are right
I have try headphones
wich have microphone
from an alcatel.
no sound
if I push deeper
into the phone
the plug then it
start to hear random
in both speakers
so the pin is longer
or shorter on moto
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