Cracked again - XPERIA X1 General

As briefly as possible.
My X1 (silver, 08W44) had two cracks since last month: near the stylus and near the battery housing. Got repaired for free (warranty) after one week. I get the phone back on monday 9th march. In the morning of 10th march I notice a small crack in the middle chrome plastic band; I get *angry* but I decide I can live with it. In the morning of 11th march (today) I notice another, very thin crack near the stylus (exactly in the same place as the first time).
I get *very angry* and decide i can NOT live with this second crack (I know it will get bigger), and write the following mail to SE.
11th April 2009 14:36
to: [email protected]
Subj: Case problem
Good morning.
The case of my silver X1 is cracked once again, even if always used with extreme care.
I will have to take it one more time to be repaired and, as SE surely already knows, many users worldwide are having the same problem.
Is there a definitive answer to the issue ?
Shall users be forced to bring the phone to be repaired once a month, using the phone only for a few days until it breaks again ?
What is SE going to offer to the X1 users ?
Will there be a special offer to switch to another SE phone (i.e. a BIG discount to swith to Idou?).
Many thanks
After less than an hour I get a phone call by SE (how did they get my mobile number?); the person asked me to explain the case, wanted to know the IMEI of the phone and asked me when and where I was going to take it for repair. Also asked me if the problem was a varnish peel-off or a plastic crack.
I got very surprised (and pleased) of such care, and asked if SE was aware of the problem with the X1s in whole Europe (world?), and the guy told me that they would have started to get informed.
Will keep you updated.
Regards

i have cracks too sigh

sandrinopi said:
As briefly as possible.
My X1 (silver, 08W44) had two cracks since last month: near the stylus and near the battery housing. Got repaired for free (warranty) after one week. I get the phone back on monday 9th march. In the morning of 10th march I notice a small crack in the middle chrome plastic band; I get *angry* but I decide I can live with it. In the morning of 11th march (today) I notice another, very thin crack near the stylus (exactly in the same place as the first time).
I get *very angry* and decide i can NOT live with this second crack (I know it will get bigger), and write the following mail to SE.
11th April 2009 14:36
to: [email protected]
Subj: Case problem
Good morning.
The case of my silver X1 is cracked once again, even if always used with extreme care.
I will have to take it one more time to be repaired and, as SE surely already knows, many users worldwide are having the same problem.
Is there a definitive answer to the issue ?
Shall users be forced to bring the phone to be repaired once a month, using the phone only for a few days until it breaks again ?
What is SE going to offer to the X1 users ?
Will there be a special offer to switch to another SE phone (i.e. a BIG discount to swith to Idou?).
Many thanks
After less than an hour I get a phone call by SE (how did they get my mobile number?); the person asked me to explain the case, wanted to know the IMEI of the phone and asked me when and where I was going to take it for repair. Also asked me if the problem was a varnish peel-off or a plastic crack.
I got very surprised (and pleased) of such care, and asked if SE was aware of the problem with the X1s in whole Europe (world?), and the guy told me that they would have started to get informed.
Will keep you updated.
Regards
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Very intresting. Good idea about getting compensated, with something like a discount for Idou. Keep us updated as you said

sandrinopi, where do you come from?
It would be a lot of easier to get the phone repaired if SE officially acknowledges the problem.
Do you have a branded phone?

Good luck with the issue. Please keep us all updated. In the event that they are still not aware of the situation, you can always direct them to the major thread that we have here.

Dadaism said:
sandrinopi, where do you come from?
It would be a lot of easier to get the phone repaired if SE officially acknowledges the problem.
Do you have a branded phone?
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From Italy Dadaism, and my phone is not branded.
By the way (despite the content of the e.mail) with the SE guy I didn't mention any kind of discount in the phone upgrade, neither asked about an official position from SE. They only said that they will start investigating.
Anyway, seems hard for me to believe that SE (italians, at least) didn't know nothing about the issue until my email. Also consider that the first time, my phone was repaired in about a week without any kind of problems.
Lets see what happens.

Related

Rant: Some newbie contractor smashed my TyTN :x

I am currently venting a lot of steam...
Today during the installation of a large machine at work, I left my TyTN on top of it whilst some contractors moved the 3 tonne equipment. Someone then put something heavy on top of my shiny new TyTN and next thing I know.... Screen smashed :shock:
Needless to say, I was speechless, and still am mortified.
Anyway, After coming to terms with the fact that no fancy reg hack or rom update is going to repair the screen, I realised that I am going to have to somehow have it repaired.
In essence, the LCD is not fractured. It appears that it is a glass cover over the LCD, but below the touchscreen sensor layer. I can't use the touchscreen over the smashed part but the LCD seems to be absolutely fine.
At some point, I'm going to need to send it off to somewhere for repair, but I don't yet know where to. Does anyone have any experience with physical repairs / costs / delay times of this nature?
It is my guess, that there are not many service centres in France where I live for HTC but maybe someone knows of an easy way out of this appalling mess?
Incidentally, I'm /trying/ to make an insurance claim through the customer, but they are so far unhelpful.
€850.... pah.... Gutted....
Rant turned into Repair centre test....
OK, so I've calmed down a bit now... and have decided to turn this into a repair centre test - just in case anyone is remotely interested in my woe - or indeed the performance of french HTC repair centres
I sent an email using the form on the HTC support website this evening telling them of my problem and asking about the best / fastest way to get the phone repaired.
I am located near Grenoble in France so we shall see just how well this proceeds - and how much cash I have to throw at it.
If anyone thinks that this is a waste of thread.. then let me know and i'll not post any updates
I sincerely hope no-one else damages their TyTN.... it hurts!
I think many will like to know about your updates.. and good to have a thread to 'point' to whenever someone has the same problem. LCD replacement is a common problems.. so common that they are selling LCD spares on eBay.
Ah thanks for that.
Anyway - just to report.. no reply email so far from HTC.
Re: Rant turned into Repair centre test....
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If anyone thinks that this is a waste of thread.. then let me know and i'll not post any updates
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But on the contrary, I am very much interested in your future reports about HTC repairs. And of course I wish you luck!
Cheers
Daniel
Good luck with a reply rmorby.
I dropped my TyTN last Friday (8th September) and emailed the HTC service centre in the UK via the website on the Saturday. Today, one week later I am still waiting for a reply!
I rang the UK service centre on Wednesday (13th September) as I had not had a reply and was told that the IMEI number for my device was for a Dutch handset. I was told that I would therefore have to speak to Danguard in Germany to get it fixed! The operator went on to say that the Danguard phone lines we down and that I would have to email them!
That I did, on Wednesday, but am still waiting for a reply from them too! I rang Danguard in Germay on Friday - only to get a permanently engaged tone!
Come on HTC - what is going on with your support!!! :twisted:
I'm much luckier. I had a problem with mine and had the UK service center to have it fixed. Mine is UK and under warantee. On average, it takes less than a week for them to fix and return. Although I have to send it back twice. That's, first, it was a dead speaker. Then, after I got the unit back, the there are something wrong with it that the in speaker mode, the unit gets very hot and drain battery like mad (e.g draining battery while in AC mode). After the 2nd time, it works like charm.
Well Christos, I sympathise greatly. I haven't had a reply yet from them either. I'm in France, and bought the device in France, but I guess no-one's on email at HTC. I'm going to be giving them a call on Monday to see if I can progress this. It's really frustrating not being able to use the touchscreen and having a dirty big crack over the LCD.... I think this is going to be expensive...
At least, like Hanmin said, if it just takes a week to sort out when they finally get going, then that's not too bad.
unbelievable.... I'm just stunned
Well, I haven't added to this for several reasons... Firstly, I'm on nights for a while and secondly... I've had very little news.
Since the 13th September I have had an insurance claim in for this. This is insurance from the shop I bought the phone from (FNAC) and I have sent the telephone to them for evaluation etc.
To cut a long story short, they periodically sent me automated emails saying that they were progressing it etc. They also appear to be using a QTEK repair centre because they called it a QTEK 9600 instead of an HTC-TyTN, so I hope that they really are the same.
Then - NOTHING.
So I phoned them, and they said that they sent the phone back to me on the 26th October - using a postal service that takes 2 days. I haven't received anything. They gave me a dodgy tracking number which didn't work and when I asked them for a good one, it's going to take 48 hours to find it.
I'm just a little bit frustrated. I want my TyTN back now - and I have no idea where it is!
I think they lost it!!!
Wahoo so sad...
Any good news????
Hope so for you.
I will just smash the shop! Get arrested! Get out and guess what!
Smash it AGAIN!
I can`t belive this disrespect for costumers!
Maybe becose I live in Japan and here the costumer STILL the KING..hope it last forever!

Xperia Recalled?

I just read on hofo that the Xperia has been recalled. Can anyone confirm?
it's for cracks near stylus hole on some stocks, already deployed on the market and in stores, don't worry. At least if you don't have crack near stylus (check sticky)
is this why shops such as expansys has the black version in stock but no silver ones?
if i step on X1 screen, there will a cracked screen. will Sony recalls it due to cracked screen? haha
netnerd said:
if i step on X1 screen, there will a cracked screen. will Sony recalls it due to cracked screen? haha
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so basically you think what a few others do that any cracks on the x1 is due to user care?
Anyone care to tell me how this works because I live in the States and I bought an X1i from the UK. Can I just call SE and send it to one of their service center here in the U.S? I have a crack near the stylus also.
romeo0119 said:
Anyone care to tell me how this works because I live in the States and I bought an X1i from the UK. Can I just call SE and send it to one of their service center here in the U.S? I have a crack near the stylus also.
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I doubt that! You might have to contact SE in the UK but at least it is worth a try - call SE US or write them an email ... see what they tell ya!
I just spoke to the Sony Style store in San Francisco. They did get in a shipment of approximately 12 phones last week, but were instructed to return them all. The rep said they received the correct phones (not the X1i, as some were speculating), and that they needed a firmware upgrade. They should get them back in stock later this week, early next (see 12/8 ship date at sonystyle.com). I guess we get to wait a little longer.
wickedday said:
I just spoke to the Sony Style store in San Francisco. They did get in a shipment of approximately 12 phones last week, but were instructed to return them all. The rep said they received the correct phones (not the X1i, as some were speculating), and that they needed a firmware upgrade. They should get them back in stock later this week, early next (see 12/8 ship date at sonystyle.com). I guess we get to wait a little longer.
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That bodes well for all of the users at the moment. New firmware!
I have spoken to 4 different sony style stores and have been told, their shipment of X1 where recalled due to firmware issues. But to my knowledge some sony style stores did not report this, frys electronics, and J&R have no idea about this "firmware recall."
There is no mention of this in an official sony or ericsson site and when I called the dedicated X1 support number on sonyericsson's site, the lady said they have not recalled any phones to her knowledge.
So the question is ... is the right hand and left absolutely clueless about what is going on? Should I just buy it from fry's and hope this "recall" only applies to the shipments to some sony style stores? I assume there is no firmware update available yet for the X1 and some people saying it has bricked their phone.
I don't want to wait any longer for this phone since I can buy it from frys now and it is just painful. But I don't want a brick either T_T. The tough gagdet choices in life.
I'm scared about hardware issues. Firmware/rom issues doesn't care as xda exists

Have you EVER had a cracked Xperia NEW POLL

Have you ever had/got an Xperia that has had a crack in it?
Just to see how many people have suffered from a crack at one point in their X1 History, Have you ever had/have a X1 with a crack?
Unlike the last thread this is if you have ever had a crack not if you have a crack at the moment just so we can see the how many people have suffered from cacking.
Also unlike the last one which was posted in december i am sure lots more people will have started to maybe get the crack
I have my X1 since january: no cracks, no keyboard issue
December 2008 here. No cracks, no issues, no sending for repair, no hardware problems whatsoever.
Had an 08W52 X1a for about 6 months. It cracked on the battery bay sidewall where the little crimp sits. Sent it in for repair to the SE service center in Bloomington and been waiting for over a month now.
rambalu80 said:
Had an 08W52 X1a for about 6 months. It cracked on the battery bay sidewall where the little crimp sits. Sent it in for repair to the SE service center in Bloomington and been waiting for over a month now.
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Dam man thats unlucky did they tell u they wre waiting on spare parts?? 1 Month is really not on though thats ridiclious
Had two cracks, one on the side by the battery to the screen and another from the camera to the power button.. called up o2 and they sent me a new one that arrived the next day so i had two xperia's for a brief period of time. then just posted the old one to them free of charge.
Crack near volume control
My first one is from January and I had a crack near the volume control. Is off to repair/replace right now.
My second one is without any cracks/issues.
Viper
rambalu80 said:
Had an 08W52 X1a for about 6 months. It cracked on the battery bay sidewall where the little crimp sits. Sent it in for repair to the SE service center in Bloomington and been waiting for over a month now.
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Got mine back earlier this week. They replaced the sidewall, and it is the new "improved" design. Hopefully you'll get yours back soon.
received a crack, actually its a piece of the chrome close to the camera button that fell off this morning...i am selling it, so i cant be bothered...may switch to what i never wanted TP2
Cracked case...sent it in....repaired....recieved phone....cracked again!
Will never buy another xperia! Sony Ericsson South Africa refused to replace the phone after first crack...but replaced the cracked housing...and IT CRACKED AGAIN!
5 !
Had 5 or 6 over the period SE sold the X1. Now I have 09W23 and SE changed the inside frame. Anybody with a date later then that with a crack?
comeradealexi said:
Dam man thats unlucky did they tell u they wre waiting on spare parts?? 1 Month is really not on though thats ridiclious
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Well, mine is on its way. I was told it would ship back to me UPS Second Day Air but for whatever reason, they decided to make me wait longer by shipping out UPS 3 Day Select on Wednesday which means, my phone is on a UPS truck from Houston to Lake Jackson which is about 55 miles, but UPS needs approximately 72 hours (between Friday and Monday) to cover the distance.
Initially I was told they were waiting on parts. Then the repair center told me they were waiting on a replacement phone and after requesting it twice in about 10 days, Sony Ericsson wasn't delivering it to them. Finally, after a bunch of BS from the cs reps and cs supervisors and cs managers at SE, they shipped my phone on Aug 06, at least that is what I'm being forced to believe, considering I haven't seen my phone since I sent it out for repair on July 02, 2009.
march and april 2009 NO CRACKS !
wazaaappp said:
march and april 2009 NO CRACKS !
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When I responded to the other polls, I said no cracks until I realized 6 months later that I should have said "No Cracks YET".
Anyway, good luck with both your phones.
I didnt have any cracks for the first couple of months, then i got the one by the volume rocker like every1 else. But the other day i noticed another one had formed further down the same bit of plastic along the side of the battery, right where the metal cover attaches, and now the cover falls off even more. Sorry i cant post a pic, i dont have a camera with fine enough detail.
Does anybody else think they have a similar crack?
I want to send the phone back, but Vodafone have stopped selling this phone so its even more complicated.
markoc84 said:
I didnt have any cracks for the first couple of months, then i got the one by the volume rocker like every1 else. But the other day i noticed another one had formed further down the same bit of plastic along the side of the battery, right where the metal cover attaches, and now the cover falls off even more. Sorry i cant post a pic, i dont have a camera with fine enough detail.
Does anybody else think they have a similar crack?
I want to send the phone back, but Vodafone have stopped selling this phone so its even more complicated.
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that sounds identical to what i had, i had three in total. the batt cover would not stay clipped on.
Vodafone dont send you a replacement, you need to send it off for repair and the same phone comes back with a new case. contact SE support the number is on that little black card you get with the X1, they will tell you where to send it.
markoc84 said:
I didnt have any cracks for the first couple of months, then i got the one by the volume rocker like every1 else. But the other day i noticed another one had formed further down the same bit of plastic along the side of the battery, right where the metal cover attaches, and now the cover falls off even more. Sorry i cant post a pic, i dont have a camera with fine enough detail.
Does anybody else think they have a similar crack?
I want to send the phone back, but Vodafone have stopped selling this phone so its even more complicated.
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I had my phone for about 6 months when I saw a little crack appear on the exact same spot as yours, where the cover attaches. After over 5 weeks since I shipped my phone out for repair, it is scheduled to be delivered today.
I guess you should do what Jasand suggests. Contact SE and when you send your phone in, make sure you somehow indicate where the crack is, because sometimes those cracks are easy to miss and SE would just send your phone back.
had to handsets both cracked in the same places (under battery cover on the top left and near stylus port).
on third handset now with new frame so we wait.
ps. my last handset lasted about 6 months till i got a crack, so just because u have had the handset a while does not mean u wont have a crack.
ps2. better to crack whilst in warranty than after (£50+ charge to have it fixed in the uk).
Ganondolf said:
ps. my last handset lasted about 6 months till i got a crack, so just because u have had the handset a while does not mean u wont have a crack.
ps2. better to crack whilst in warranty than after (£50+ charge to have it fixed in the uk).
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+1. I was told that replacement phones will have warranty up to 1 year from the manufacturer date code.
Jasand said:
that sounds identical to what i had, i had three in total. the batt cover would not stay clipped on.
Vodafone dont send you a replacement, you need to send it off for repair and the same phone comes back with a new case. contact SE support the number is on that little black card you get with the X1, they will tell you where to send it.
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Thanks for the advice, I will def contact SE directly, just a shame i'm going to be without a phone for a month or maybe more :-( or do they send you a replacement while your one is away, this is used for work so i need a phone,

(2010 JAN 05 UPDATE) Thin layer of coating coming off the HD2 hardware buttons edges

Please look at the photo.
I just wonder is this just the protective layer of paint or some coating that I should peel off, any other user's experience the same ?
i have reported to HTC, waiting for reply... But I m not in the country that I ve bought the phone now... I wonder can I swap it like 6 months later if it's manufacturing defect.
Update 03/01/2010:
I got a reply from HTC:
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According to the picture you provide, there should be slight appearance abrase in the button. Taking of this small layer of plastic would not affect the function of the phone. you may either leave it as it is or take it off. Thank you for your cooperation.
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Update 04/01/2020:
I follow HTC instruction and peel/scratch away the coating of the HOME button only with finger nails.
The metallic effect's gone, and become just a normal black plastic key.
There are lots of micro lines on the button which cannot be seen on the photo.
It is still acceptable, just that I m not happy about a flag ship device's paint/coating came off so easily.
These are the photos
http://picasaweb.google.com/uccoffee.forum/20100104#
The button actually look nice without the coating in the photo comparing with the one next to it which the coating is coming off.
I m thinking should/can I ask for buttons replacement, or it is just a waste of time cos those buttons coating will eventually come off after excessive use.
i still love my HD2 , just a bit sad about so many problems
Update 05/01/2020:
i got HTC reply, nothing much they can help since I m not in Hong Kong.
Anyway, the girl from HTC said there was no one complain about the key's paint coming off.... I just wonder can those people who 's got problem and voted yes, would you mind at least send a complain letter to HTC please.
http://www.htc.com/hk-en/CS_Mail.aspx
yep my button is peeling too I had it 4 2 weeks
no problems here. hd2 is 6 weeks old ...
It's the metallic coating, if scratched away, it looks very plastic. ...
Simililar things have happened to my keypad in less than 2 weeks, and I always put it in its pouch. Guess we aren't lucky
not yet
I only use my HD2 since ~10 days, and do not have this exact problem, yet.
With my previous device (HTC Touch Pro) however, I had a lot of problems with peeling off coating (in TP case it was the plack paint peeling off the housing).
I also have the problem, that I use to buy my devices in Europe with WWE roms, and then take them with me to Japan, where I currently live.
This constellation is a nightmare for warranty return/repair with HTC, as they ask you to sent your device to where you bought it.
To avoid shipping my defect device helf way around the world, I last time decided to send my TP to HTC global repair centre in Taiwan.
They did the repair and they did it quick, but you don't want to know how much that cost me.
As soon as my HD2 starts loosing paint or coating, it will contact HTC global rapair in Taiwan again, but this time I will not accept to pay for the repair but push for good will.
The world gets smaller and smaller, customers do not stay in regions where they purchase devies. It is time for companies like HTC to adapt.
My girlfriend bought an Apple iBook in the US. In the menatime we moved to UK, Belgium and now to Japan.
She had warranty repair done to her iBook in all of those contires without an problem, so it should also be possible for HTC, if they just were a little bit more end customer oriented, but now that they try to market HTC as a brand, maybe it will come.
As a customer paying 500+ EUR for their products, I will not take NO for an answer.
Mine is actually worse than the photo in this post. I thought it was a temporary cover when it started to come away, like some buttons/screens have when a phone is brand new.
max1274, how bad is it? post some pic if possible
I only had my HD2 for 30 days....
I use my hd2 for five weeks, no problems so far. Hope to stay that way.
Its not even that bad, but yes very thin layers go off around the edges
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Same here pal, it happened on my diamond as well.
**** happens i suppose
6 weeks... no problem
Damn.. Seeing things like these makes me want to go back to the shop and return it! Mine doesn't have anything but I am "EXTRA" careful with it but if it has happened to so many people it will probably happen to mine to. I cant stand paying 669€ (Portuguese value) for a phone that doesn't keep it together!
I get mad with these kind of problems!
Mine looks fine, had it since 24/12/09.
Touch wood it stays ok. Hope the guys with problems can get it sorted via HTC without niggles.
Please keep us posted on if you can get HTC to fix it.
Mines fine as well. But you know, the early batches of the HD had surface coating scratch, crack and chip problems. I bought my HD2 a month after they were first offered in the US, hoping to avoid the common problems, which were mostly ROM, but now I think maybe I dodged the bullet on this as well.
aro said:
To avoid shipping my defect device helf way around the world, I last time decided to send my TP to HTC global repair centre in Taiwan.
They did the repair and they did it quick, but you don't want to know how much that cost me.
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Actually I would like to know.
Ibb1982 said:
Mine looks fine, had it since 24/12/09.
Touch wood it stays ok. Hope the guys with problems can get it sorted via HTC without niggles.
Please keep us posted on if you can get HTC to fix it.
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I was wrong! I checked my phone at night, and guess I couldn't see the minor peeling I have on the home button. Now I've seen in proper daylight I can see mine is peeling.
This sucks big time. Anyone have any feedback from HTC?
I've also sent a support request via email from the HTC website via http://www.htc.com/uk/CS_Mail.aspx , hope they get back to all of us soon.
Got a response from HTC
HTC are quick, within 2 hours I received a response to the peeling issue:
"We are very surprised to hear that you have an issue with our HTC handset.
If you are within 30 days of purchase, you can book our handset for a DOA (Dead on Arrival) via the retailer. Everything that came with the phone including the box will need to be returned. A DOA can only be booked if there is no mis-use or damage found on the handset.
If you are outside of 30 days, please call us in order to book a repair service.
http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
Please note that the repair centre will need to see the device before diagnosing whether the fault is covered by the Warranty or not. We can not specify a cost until the repair centre has seen it first.
Please see full DOA/Exchange Procedure below if you are within 30 days of purchase:
We can have the device repaired for you, however if you wish to exchange the device and it is less than 30 days old, please return it to the point of purchase for exchange.
The retailer may not be willing to exchange your device depending on the terms of sale you have agreed with them, this is their right and HTC cannot intervene on your behalf.
If an exchange is refused by your retailer then we can still arrange a repair for the device, but we cannot exchange it.
In the event that a repair becomes necessary and you do not wish to arrange it with your retailer please call quoting your reference number (e2e ref) if you have one.
Thank you.
-If these steps have not helped, please let me know by responding using the link provided and I will be happy to check again for you.
Best regards,
HTC Customer Support Team "
Why would we want to send our handsets for repair, only to have them fit the exact-same button unit. The same thing will happen again. Once we know HTC have manufactured new non-peeling buttons, that's when the repairs should take place. Painting buttons is stupid, why not just make them out of black plastic and have done with it.
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Why would we want to send our handsets for repair, only to have them fit the exact-same button unit. The same thing will happen again. Once we know HTC have manufactured new non-peeling buttons, that's when the repairs should take place. Painting buttons is stupid, why not just make them out of black plastic and have done with it.
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Until they see them though, they're not going to think its a problem. Catch 22 all the way!

UK HTC Repair-Reported 10/06-Now Resolved. Thanks for all the fish

Hi All,
for anyone thinking of purchasing one of these device I think you may wish to consider the following. I have been waiting for HTC repair to fix a manufacturers defect since 10th July. They now appear to have lost my phone. As follows:
- 10th July - reported a crack around the device. HTC advised that they would need to escalate the issue on ow to handle the case.
- 7th August - (1 month after reporting the problem) HTC made arrangement to pick up the device for repair.
- 16th August - received my HTC One. The cracks were still present + the glass was not fitted correctly.
- 20th August - send off for second repair
Today it becomes apparent that HTC have lost my device. They say it was repaired, and sent to UPS, who do not acknowledge receipt of it.
Unfortunately HTC are now going to investigate. I have requested a replacement handset many times from them, but they insist they get three attempts at the repair. Given previous experience this is likely to take weeks. Again I requested a replacement device today, but no. They insist the suffering must continue until HTC, putting itself first at the expense of its customers, has executed it processes and procedures.
I have been a HTC fan since the htc desire. I am very sad to say that I would not recommend the HTC One, because they are poorly manufactured, as per my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2408050
In addition to this, I will never buy a HTC device again because of the appalling service. Even if my HTC One turns up tomorrow, and it is perfect, I will be returning it to ee. This is purely because I have learnt that you cannot rely on HTC to repair their device in a reasonable way.
I can only hope that some one from HTC reads this, and decides to investigate, because they dont like the poor publicity. I doubt it though. My experience is that they are expert in saying sorry for poor service, but its only talk.
One last point, which I think others may benefit from. The effort that I have had to go through with HTC to get as far as I have is huge. A truly high maintenance experience.
Buy a HTC device at your peril!!!
UPDATE
This matter is now closed (well almost) with HTC as far as I am concerned. I had to shout very loud to get noticed, and it took much time, effort and persistence. As you can read in the remainder of this thread, my HTC experience, this time, was far from good.
However, when I was heard, they listened very carefully, and are acting. HTC have convinced me that they genuinely do care about every single customer experience, and they do read threads such as this, and are prepared to act. They are prepared to change anything and everything to improve.
I have worked with global telecoms businesses for most of my working life (30+ years) all over the world, and I can honestly say that I have never experienced such genuine commitment to improve and resolve issues.
I don't suppose that everything will be transformed overnight, but I know that they have real commitment and desire to excel. Its obvious, they have to. Look at their competitors.
I have but one remaining item of business with regards this experience, and its not with HTC, but my network. I had to do the legwork that they should have done on my behalf. Hopefully I wont have to author another thread etc to resolve this matter.
Now I love HTC again.
HTC - Heres to change, Im sure you will be champions of it. Samsung watch out. You may be huge but YOU are up against a formidable competitor.
zaphodbeeb said:
Even if my HTC One turns up tomorrow, and it is perfect, I will be returning it to ee.
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That's what you should have done in the first place; let EE deal with the hassle.
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That's what you should have done in the first place; let EE deal with the hassle.
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Hi Yes you are correct, however I was advised by ee in store to return it to HTC as they would be doing that, rather than repair it themselves because it was due to physical manufacture defect.
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Hi Yes you are correct, however I was advised by ee in store to return it to HTC as they would be doing that, rather than repair it themselves because it was due to physical manufacture defect.
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And therein lies the problem. You should've insisted that EE handled the repair because they were the original retailer, and therefore it is their statutory duty to make good on the repair and/or replace. I would still go back to EE and claim that since it has been nearly two months since you reported the initial fault, and that you have now been without a phone for 3 weeks, they should replace your device because it is unable to be repaired in a satisfactory time scale and that this is a breach of your statutory rights. Don't take no for an answer, and throw section 48B of the Sale of Goods Act 1979 in their faces.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54/section/48B
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
And therein lies the problem. You should've insisted that EE handled the repair because they were the original retailer, and therefore it is their statutory duty to make good on the repair and/or replace. I would still go back to EE and claim that since it has been nearly two months since you reported the initial fault, and that you have now been without a phone for 3 weeks, they should replace your device because it is unable to be repaired in a satisfactory time scale and that this is a breach of your statutory rights. Don't take no for an answer, and throw section 48B of the Sale of Goods Act 1979 in their faces.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1979/54/section/48B
Regards,
Dave
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thank you. Very useful.
HTC have now re located my device, after a call from ee to them. I will now receive a perfectly repaired device back from htc next Tuesday (hopefully) else I'll be going around the houses yet again. If all is OK on Tuesday it will be 69 calendar days since I first reported the problem to HTC. Customer service excellence eh...
I would say that basically every phone company's warranty service is pretty garbage.
Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes it just sucks.
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3rd HTC repair attempt, but they want me to pay
Hi,
Had some new info from htc today. They lost my phone last week and have now decided that they want to charge me for another repair?!? This is without me even having the phone returned to me after the last repair attempt (2nd repair attempt, again under under warranty).
I can only assume that they caused yet more damage with their 2nd repair attempt, and they want me to pay for it.
I spoke to EE this morning who have raised this as an issue with OFCOM now. The last commitment from HTC (to both me and EE) was that they would return the repaired phone to me for 3/9/13. This was on Friday. I also tweeted HTC over the weekend and they committed to escalating the case (again).
I also want to say thanks to EE for their help in this matter, escalating it to OFCOM themselves.
Nearly
zaphodbeeb said:
Hi,
Had some new info from htc today. They lost my phone last week and have now decided that they want to charge me for another repair?!? This is without me even having the phone returned to me after the last repair attempt (2nd repair attempt, again under under warranty).
I can only assume that they caused yet more damage with their 2nd repair attempt, and they want me to pay for it.
I spoke to EE this morning who have raised this as an issue with OFCOM now. The last commitment from HTC (to both me and EE) was that they would return the repaired phone to me for 3/9/13. This was on Friday. I also tweeted HTC over the weekend and they committed to escalating the case (again).
I also want to say thanks to EE for their help in this matter, escalating it to OFCOM themselves.
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A minor update. HTC tweeted me again after another day on the phone with ee, htc uk, and htc tweeters, As follows:
- HTC uk have now decided (with ee's help again) not to charge me and have advised that my repair is complete and MAY be with me today, despite using UPS standard. UPS have not received the device yet so I will not be receiving the device today as promised under this courier arrangement. I am now exactly where I was 1 week ago with HTC.
I was tweeted again by htc to ask what my ticket number is, so I provided this (as I did on Saturday when they requested it). I tweeted them to 121 courier it to me today.
HTC UK customer service have agreed to email me in the morning to update me on the UPS standard delivery and have refused to courier it to me by any other method because no managers are available to arrange this. Maybe , just maybe, today will be the day my HTC One is returned without defect. I also tweeted that I want a written letter of apology, compensation and a fault free htc one today.
EE have been absolutely brilliant today and have really given me excellent support. thank you Gareth and team for your support.
HTC customer service sucks donkey balls
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Don't tell me.... said manufacturing defect is the much lauded gap in the "gapless" technology phone?
Seriously if the phone was less than 28 days old, I would of returned it to EE for a replacement on the spot, although I wouldn't of bothered as every phone in the world has issues, as they aren't Rolls Royce or Rolex's.
I didnt bother for a month after receiving but the crack got worse. The real problem is not the crack. The crack is caused by the front of the device not being squarely attached to the rear, which causes an over/underhang at the top/bottom. I recommend you check yours and return if you can feel this with your fingernail, else yours may crack also. Also check to see if the glass is fitted evenly (see pics). I think this is also caused by the poor front/back fitting as it stops the glass from fitting correctly. If you have your phone on contract I agree (with hindsight) that you should return to your network provider for repair. Going to HTC (UK) has been a disaster. My network (EE) have been brilliant "motivating" HTC to repair the device. Any how the phone is now repaired and, supposedly, on its way to me. I have but one remaining item of business with HTC (UK) which is delivery. They promised to get it to me today, but are using ups standard which wont deliver that result. Yesterday I asked them to escalate this issue and make arrangement for a person to person delivery today. Still waiting for feedback from my escalation, but yesterday they advised that no-one in HTC (UK) has the authority to do this!! I think this actually means they cant be bothered, even after taking 70 days to fix a problem. Hopeless.
I tweeted HTC yesterday and they are looking into my case. They also said they would do this on Saturday however with no apparent results or updates from them. More lip service I think. Still I'll do the silly HTC repair dance for as long as it takes, and cause as much pain and shame as is necessary to do it.
Sorry, but I had the same issue on my One. It didn't get worse or bother me at all. You could of just lived with it and not got so OCD and about.
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Sean88 said:
Sorry, but I had the same issue on my One. It didn't get worse or bother me at all. You could of just lived with it and not got so OCD and about.
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Look at the pics. If u think thats acceptable then fine, but I am not you. The device was in the process of falling to bits. In my case it did get worse as you can see. You may think that Im OCD, but the law states that the device should be free from defect, and I am thankful of it. Thank you for the valuable contribution to this thread.
biffsmash said:
Don't tell me.... said manufacturing defect is the much lauded gap in the "gapless" technology phone?
Seriously if the phone was less than 28 days old, I would of returned it to EE for a replacement on the spot, although I wouldn't of bothered as every phone in the world has issues, as they aren't Rolls Royce or Rolex's.
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The gapless tech does not cover the speaker area. This has been said many times, even HTC has said it in one of their blogs.
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Oh dear, oh dear
Hi,
got the phone back today, and the gap is back but is now full of a glue. This was actually fixed after the first repair but its back. There is also additional damage in the form of a chunk out of the corner, and an additional gap at the side of the device. The glass problem is yet to be fixed as is the over/underhang, and theres lots of excess glue around the device.
Lucky I got before and after photos at repair cycle. Repair not accepted. No more HTC repairs for me I think.
I made much noise on twitter, and now have a publicly made personal commitment from a HTC senior exec to help with the matter (Twitter is marvelous in these circumstances). I await his response. I am somewhat relieved at this as it does show, at least at the top, that they do care.
So there's good, and there's bad in this update, so unfortunately its still a thumbs down from me. as my problem is still not resolved 71 days after I first reported it.
I offered my professional services to help transform HTC but have not heard anything back yet.
The helpful EE guy I was talking to has disappeared off the face of the planet also until Saturday apparently also. BBC;s watchdog have had a sniff so this could be the start of my TV career, if HTC dont want to hire me.
I also updated HTC and advised that I will only discuss this with the senior exec who offered his services from this point on.
P.S Apologies for the poor pics. I had to use my old phones camera.
Whereas this story is very poor I have to say HTC's UK repairs center were great when it came to me sending in my old Desire and Sensation for repair. 3 day turnaround and both sorted without bother. It does seem like this is a bad experience, though, and one that would just make me claim on my insurance to get a new handset as opposed to getting one repaired
EddyOS said:
Whereas this story is very poor I have to say HTC's UK repairs center were great when it came to me sending in my old Desire and Sensation for repair. 3 day turnaround and both sorted without bother. It does seem like this is a bad experience, though, and one that would just make me claim on my insurance to get a new handset as opposed to getting one repaired
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My device is under warranty. This is the result of three warranty repairs, lots of escalation, costs (time spent, days off waiting for the device to be returned) and grief. How would I make a claim on insurance, its in warranty. Believe me,if I thought my insurance company would fix my ongoing problem I would have claimed. I HAVE authored a thread previously stating what an excellent level of service I received from HTC UK repair, when I had a problem with my HTC desire.
I will give credit where credit is due, and complain when it is due. I want to write nice things about HTC, but in this case I cannot unfortunately.
zaphodbeeb said:
My device is under warranty. This is the result of three warranty repairs, lots of escalation, costs (time spent, days off waiting for the device to be returned) and grief. How would I make a claim on insurance, its in warranty. Believe me,if I thought my insurance company would fix my ongoing problem I would have claimed. I HAVE authored a thread previously stating what an excellent level of service I received from HTC UK repair, when I had a problem with my HTC desire.
I will give credit where credit is due, and complain when it is due. I want to write nice things about HTC, but in this case I cannot unfortunately.
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Oh, I know what you're saying. I'm just saying if I'd had this much agro I would've just got the phone back unrepaired and claim on my insurance and just a brand new handset...sucks that this has happened to you
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Oh, I know what you're saying. I'm just saying if I'd had this much agro I would've just got the phone back unrepaired and claim on my insurance and just a brand new handset...sucks that this has happened to you
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But would your experience figure in your next purchase? HTC have made contact and I am confident they are taking this matter seriously. Hopefully be seeing improvements and lots of positive reviews like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432718
soon. I wont give this a thumbs up just yet, but I am more confident so fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:

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