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Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin
This will help and is free!
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
alvin5785 said:
Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin
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Alvin... Try this.
Firstly, turn bluetooth ON, on your phone, in the normal way.
Then, in File Explorer, tap AND HOLD, on an image file, til the context menu pops up (you are probably already doing this anyway, if you say you can send by IR).
Then select the option to "BEAM FILE" to send the image.
Now this is the informative bit... In the screen that then appears, you will see a magnifying glass icon or two - one for Infra Red beaming, the other one meaning it is still searching for devices.
What you SHOULD also have IF another BT device is in range, is a kind of standard radio transmit indicator, of a circle or dot, with radial rings coming out from it (or at least something similar, as I am going of the top of my head here). THIS is the indicator for a BLUETOOTH device. You will have a few of these in the list, if there is more than one device in range
Its a slow discovery process, but after a while, this indicator, will have an identification code alongside it - this is the hexadecimal notation for the device you wish to send it to.
Leave it searching for a while, and this will then change to the proper name of the other device.
At that point, you can then tap SEND where it indicates, to beam the file by BT.
Note - for it to send, the receiving phone needs to be set up to receive files, be discoverable etc etc.
And as a note, for the XDA2 to be able to receive files, the option to Recieve incoming beams, needs to be ON too - this is often forgotten.
See the screen shots I have knowcked up for more info...
hey thxs for tht ppl, i will try what you said 2moro Shadamehr thx. i went to tht link but unfortuneatly it aint really helped, its more to do with power saving n stuff, not sendin files.
erm i do have another question tho, i have a fellin the answers gonna be no. Can i use my bluetooth headset as normal earpiece/mic for system sounds etc not just phone calls?
thx for ur help
Not with the current bluetooth software.
fair dos, ill just av to wait!
but back to the bluetooth manager, why dont i have one? do all xda2's not have one??
and i still havent managed to send owt yet, but i aint tried to hard yet, ill keep at it!
The Microsoft Bluetooth implentation is very different from the ones you'll find on Ipaq machines, which use the Widcomm Bluetooth stack. It seems like a lot of functionality is missing on the Microsoft one, but in fact a lot is there; it's just not logically organised. Downloading and installing the Bluetooth tools linked above will provide some of the features you probably think you're missing. Try it!
Hope this helps.
Hey!
I just recently tried to share photo's with my girlfriend's Sony Ericsson T610. I can set up the bond ok, I can send pictures from her phone to my XDAII, but I cant send pictures (or contacts) from mine to hers.
I go to "beam file" select her device, & tap to send........ then it states "sending file 1/1" but that's it, you can see that a transfer is beinng attempted on her phone's display, but the prompt to accept or reject the file never appears. It takes something like 10mins for the XDA to report the failure, and you cannot seem to cancel the transfer - the word cancelling comes up, but then the screen freezes (you can still get to other applications throught the start bar)
Has anyone lese had this problem - will it be fixed by the bluetooth update, or the o2 update..... or anything?
cheers.
I have had exactly the same problem, same situation with a T610, 3 months ago on original ROM.
Haven't tried it after the ROM upgrade though. I'm anxious to know too.
whoops..me too..
it freeezes when i try to send files over BT to other phones!
Hmm..And I can't install BT Tools because it disable ActiveSync via Bluetooth..hmm..
Will try other thirdy part software..
Might have a POTENTIALLY useful piece of info for you here folks...
You see, I'm originally an Orange E200 SPV Smartphone user.
Sad as it might sound, there is NO inbuilt functionality in the phone (Windows Mobile 2003 based) for sending files by BT.
So some clever people who write a third party software File Manager app - Smart Explorer I think it is, decided to include there own support for Bluetooth sending of files in the program.
BUT - this is where things may start getting interesting...
What they found was that with the first beta, phones just like the SE T610 for example, could not receive files.
Testing by them, found that this was because certain types of phones could not receive files via BT, when sent at full transmit protocol speed, and no facility existed for them to simply 'drop down' to lowest common speed.
How they got around this, was by including an option, in the next version of their program, to include a little tick box, to "Send at full speed".
Thus, by default, lower speed is used, so as to ensure full compatibility.
But if you KNOW the device you were sending to supports full speed, you can just check the "Full speed" box as it is sending, at it switches to faster speed.
Relating all that babble and background info to the XDA2 etc, it isn't too far a leap of knowledge, to wonder if the same problem applies, whereby the XDA2 defaults to sending files by BT at FULL transmit protocol speeds, and of course, certain phones, such as the T610, can't receive at this speed, and simply sit there confused.
A guess, nothing more. But based on my experiences of the E200 smartphone, and what the problem was then, I can't help but suspect that the problem of certain phones not being able to negotiate full speed BT transfer, is what might be the issue here too.
Just a thought...
..And so..For transfer Files via BT we Must wait for WM2k3 SE?
..Ehm,Maybe u will find it useful:
I tryed transfer files to Nokia 3650,6600 (Symbian 60 and 70 phones) and sometimes the phones receive the files (but my XDA2 freezes and contiunue show me Sending...) and sometimes freezes at all and don't send nothing.
Regards
So, it means that if sending files from/to another bluetooth pocket pc, then it shouldnt has problem?
I'm the main developer of Smart Explorer for Smartphone 2002/2003. You're right Shadamehr. It seems that the Microsoft BT stack on SP 2002/2003 does not handle correctly the max packet size the remote device accepts. This happens with different devices, such as T68i or T610. I can't confirm yet that this problem also occures with XDA II (I don't have any T610 at the office).
We are actually porting Smart Explorer to Pocket PC (it was only an internal exercise and not planned to be made public). Actually, 95% of the job has been realized. I will try to find a T610 and test file transfer. I'll let you know the result. If there is some interest, we may think about putting this version on our web site.
from what i understand then many mobil phone makers block that
because background pictures and such are being sold
and if people could just share them they would not make as much money
my gf's nokia have a mmc card and i cant even put pictures on the it and choose them as background
if your xda2 can beam to other xda2's and to a pc then putting 2003SE on it is not likely to solve issues with other devices not being able to recieve from it
nice one jacoch - let me know when i can give it a whirl!!!
If its possible to send picuures from a T610 to another T610 and from a T610 to an XDA, it must be possible for a t610 to recieve pictures etc.
my XDA gone back for repairs but should be back with me soon 8)
cheers guys
Well I just tried with the T610 of a friend of mine. It seems that BT stack is even worst on XDA than it is on SPV. I have faced some hangs while shutting down the BT stack. The same appears when trying to send a file when the remote device ask to be bound first. The bounding dialog never appears and SE sit waiting from the answer of the OS. I'm not sure it's bugs as I tried on our development device that is not really fit :? (ROM 1.66)
Anyway, once the XDA II has been bound to the T610, transfer was fine (at slow speed only). I have sent successfully several 40Kb jpeg files. If we decide to make this version public, we will investigate and try to fix these troubles. :wink:
Pleeeeeease let me know if/when I can test it;
Is there any way that the Bluetooth application can be split from the bulk of the OS - to use as a patch for windows PPC? (as if you didn't have enough to do!)
:wink: cheers!
not only the T610
Yea, have tried even with the high end SE P900, still wont accept the transfer... but the PALM units were able to send from an to 7650 and other high end units...
It really sucks to thinks XDA2 is "HIGH END/TECH PHONE" but doesnt connect /file trans thru BT.
ok is bt but is maybe a pb with ir setting read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=46996#46996
Re: not only the T610
pidz111 said:
Yea, have tried even with the high end SE P900, still wont accept the transfer... but the PALM units were able to send from an to 7650 and other high end units...
It really sucks to thinks XDA2 is "HIGH END/TECH PHONE" but doesnt connect /file trans thru BT.
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I have no problems BT transfer to and receive from SE P800/900.
BT file transfer to mobile phones
I have I-mate running WM2003. As described above I can recieve files from SE T610/630/Z600 but i can't send files to these devices... it writes "Sending 1/1" and that's it... although on T610 the BT sign changes to the one indicating a transfer... nothing happens in fact... for half an hour it couldn't send a 20Kb picture... I have downloaded and installed Pocket Bluetooth Tools... but what I can't figure out is what is this software at all and how it works? If anyone knows how to make my I-mate (1.66.00WWE) send files to mobile phones, please explain it to me step-by-step.... THANK YOU!!!!
so can anyone tell me a program i can use for sending files over BT. i got HS messenger for texting over BT networks but it requires both devices to be bonded. is this true for all aps? im only looking to send files from my xda2 to another xda2 if it makes it any easier
Bluetooth problems
I have exactly the same problem as Rasputin. My gf has a t610 that I cant send images to.
Is there any development on that program that will allow users to send images to these phones?
Hey,
I flashed my 8125 with Summiter's Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE-RINGRS-OCLOCK.exe.
I have a question now: can I use Bluetooth File Transfer Service with Bluesoleil Bluetooth USB dongle?
If not, is there a way to fix it?
Also I cannot send/receive files (like tones or pictures) via BT... This is really weird since most of BT enabled phones have this option, even the cheapest of them...
Don't get me wrong, but it's kinda embarrasing when a guy shows off with his RAZR sending pictures and stuff and I can't...
HELP, PLEASE....
Ps. yeah... I hate RAZR's...
I am not familiar with that ROM but you should be able to pair with that dongle - just make sure both are discoverable and they should be able to pair. Also you can send files via bluetooth use the inbuilt file explorer and click on file and menu should appear - choose beam file and bluetooth window will appear
Nope... it doesn't... I got only IR...
Need more info to help.
Does your bluetooth go on and is it discoverable? Does blue indicator light flash? Did bluetooth work before flashing with new rom?
Cuz you should definitely be able to bt with file explorer. If not i assume its a rom problem and would suggest trying to flash back to original rom.
Well, the BT itself works well. I use BT earpiece and SellingClicker with no problems.
Yet, I don't have an option to beam anything via BT... Only IR or MMS.
And I have no idea whether it worked with oroginal ROM since I flashed it the very second day I got it... Yeah, yeah... I know... that was stupid...
Anyways, any other suggestions?
I figured out a way how to send files from one phone to the other... (I think, coz I didn't really test throughfuly)
The big question is: how do I send and receive files to the PC without using ActiveSync?
You have to....
...have your bluetooth om and discoverable to be able to send files via bluetooth.
Once you tap "Beam", you'll have to wait a few seconds to see the option to send via btooth. You'll first see just the "Infared" prompt, then underneath it, you'll start to see "Unknown Devices" appear, Unknown Device changing to the actual device name, once you MDA picks it up. Then you can tap to send to that particular device.
So you can do it....I just think it's misleading that it only says "Beam".....
Re: You have to....
Jaidnoire said:
...have your bluetooth om and discoverable to be able to send files via bluetooth.
Once you tap "Beam", you'll have to wait a few seconds to see the option to send via btooth. You'll first see just the "Infared" prompt, then underneath it, you'll start to see "Unknown Devices" appear, Unknown Device changing to the actual device name, once you MDA picks it up. Then you can tap to send to that particular device.
So you can do it....I just think it's misleading that it only says "Beam".....
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Yes, but when I finally send it to the PC all the PC does is open MS Outlook and that's it...
The way I see it is that OBEX file is nothing else but a "business card" file read only by outlook.
Did you try sending files both ways yourself?
:-(
common guys... help, please..
Just now I was trying to send a 5mb file from PC to phone via the Bluetooth Object Push Transfer. It was working for about 5 min and... nothing... the PC says: Object Push Service is disconnected... on the phone there is nothing. Even the memory status stays exactly as it was 10 min ago... :-(
help, please
is this possible from the atom life?
i can receive files alright. but today i want to send a file to my friend's phone and i found that i couldnt apart from doing that infrared beam thing
pptt said:
is this possible from the atom life?
i can receive files alright. but today i want to send a file to my friend's phone and i found that i couldnt apart from doing that infrared beam thing
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if u,r Atom Life runing on windows mobile 5 than first u have to turn ON bluetooth to send a file, than select anyfile long press u,ll see the option "Beam File" select it, now u,r device will serch for bluetooth devices on the range. if u r using Windows Mobile 6 u don't have to activate bluetooth. just select Beam File u,r device will turn On bluetooth aoutomaticaly. & when u close file sending, it will disconnect bluetooth. Windows Mobile6 is really coooooooool
mine is on wm6...it keeps saying searching...but never find my BT laptop
pptt said:
mine is on wm6...it keeps saying searching...but never find my BT laptop
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so that's must be something on ur lap. make sure its on discoverable mode..
will try again
seems like it can't 'see' my k800i either
arghhhhh
Where to start...
One of my phone lines on my account is my old 6700. The bluetooth and my car (2007 bmw 335i) worked once while the phone was stock, then never worked again. Then i upgraded to wm6 for the apache. The bluetooth and my car worked well for a while, then all of a sudden one day stopped working. I hated the trouble that it used to cause my, so i added a 2nd line on my account for my 'car' phone. I went with a motorola krzr after i was told motorola bluetooth stacks have no problems with most cars bluetooth stacks. I also had a samsung upstage before the krzr that had no problem syncing with my car, but would never send the correct information to my car i.e. when a call was coming in, it wasnt the correct caller displayed. The krzr worked perfect. Anyways, I smashed my krzr (after the lil nephew soaked it in saliva and the buttons stopped working) and was 'forced' to buy the new touch phone. Since purchasing the touch, i cant get it to sync with my car I had it ONE time come up in my list of bluetooth devices, but when i tried to connect, it would fail, then i would refresh and it would be gone. Please somebody help me. I was hoping that i could get rid of my 2nd line and finally have 1 phone! Is there an update for the bluetooth stack? is there a registry hack? is there anything?
Thanks in advance for anybody that can help me...
-deck
You need to download a cab file from Jetware Mobile. Just do a google search for it. Works on alot of PPC phones
well i tried it, and still no luck
this is the ONLY problem with the touch i have encountered so far.
-dedk
I had the similiar problem. I was trying to send the file via bluetooth from Touch to Motoming. The devices were already paired. But I couldn't send file via bluetooth. When I selected file and tried to send it from explorer it blinked the device selection screen and I returned back to explorer.
To send the files via bluetooth I had to install resco explorer. And from resco explorer I was able to select the device, and send files via bluetooth.
Bluetooth in Touch is very buggy.