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Hi All,
I have been reading a lot of messages on both 8525 and 8125 trying to isolate the issue and there doesn't seem to be a straight asnwer anywhere and hence I am trying to get the attention of the users here...
I have a pioneer navigation system with a bluetooth built-in. My previous phone (blackberry) and my wife's treo650 both stay connected with car's bluetooth when on call (never a disconnect). But my new 8525 gets disconnected mid-call (usually after 2 to 5mins, but have also seen a disconnect within 1min). That is, it does pair with the car kit and when there is no call going on, the bluetooth connection never dies. This disconnect only happens mid-call, almost all the times.
I have the latest ROM (1,34.502...., radio: 1.16), got the phone about 2 weeks ago from Amazon.com. Called cingular and they say could be faulty phone and I have searched other forums like audi message board where their car kits are also having the same disconnect problem with 8525, so I doubt this is a single phone issue.
I have taken the 'band' hack and forced the phone to be in either GSM or WCDMA mode and in either modes, the phone still exhibits the same problem (there might not be any connection between the two at all, bluetooth with GSM/WCDMA, but thought there might be some weird connection...but not the case thankfully).
I read somewhere about some bluetooth tweaks on 8125, but never found what those were. I need some help here otherwise I am going to return the 8525 and stay away from it. I need the bluetooth to work efficiently.
thanks for all your help
Phal
San Jose, CA
please help
I really need some help, clue or direction on solving or at least isolating this bluetooth issue. I love the 8525 but if I cannot fix this bluetooth mid-call disconnect issue, I will unfortunately have to return, which I don't want.
What headsets the 8525 works fine with (no drops mid-call)? May be that is a starting point.
Please also give me some links to 8125 tweaks that some talked about? pof/other moderators/anyone?
thanks a lot in advance!!
Phal
I have an Motorola H700, and every once in a while it will disconnect, looking at the phone after that, BT is turned off, turn it back on and it works again...
There are problems with the hardware and the API used to access it, good phone, but I don't think it was ready for the market yet when they released it. It is likely to be corrected in the next ROM release, last I heard from Cingular is mid 2007, but by the way things go, prolly around late 07/early 08.
I'm having similar issues with the BT headset I use, which is a Samsung WEP150. It'll drop midcall to the handset. I'll look and BT is turned off.
The only remote correllation I've found is that it seems to occur when I've received a new email or something a la ActiveStink.. And I haven't really been able to confirm that... But I have definitely noticed it happening then though.
my 8525 does this as well with my factory BT in my 05 Acura TL. Kind of frustrating, have not been able to figure it out yet.
Problems w/ Audi BT as well
Same issues with my Audi Q7 BT. I have seen posts in this and other forums blaming the MS bluetooth stack.
My 8525 worked flawlessly with my Garmin NUVI 660, never disconnected or failed to connect automatically. This is frustrating.
8525 Fix
I had the same problem with the 8525 and my Pioneer Avic-Z1 bluetooth kit.
I hacked the registry to force the bluetooth radio to stay ON, rather than going into sleep mode. This seems to have fixed the problem (although with limited testing at this point).
My calls would consistently disconnect with 2-4 minutes. After the hack, I've had 2 45-minute+ conversations with no trouble.
Here's the fix... install a registry editor (like PHMedit), and add a DWORD here:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Suspend
Add a DWORD called btl1: (note the colon, the colon must be there), with a DWORD value of 2.
Good luck!
My Q7 as well i took the advice of wolfgram and did this to my phone i will let you know how it works it would be a shame to give up this phone but it is really useless if this feature does not work right.
Well this is what i did i did what wolfgram said and it still cut out but not as much so i took the checks off in the advance power mode and never let the phone go to sleep and it works all the time. HTC needs to upgrade thier bluetooth setting not to go to sleep. It must stay active at all times MY phone book and all other info posted into my Q7 with no issues at all and it even sees the bluetooth b4 the MMI system in the car Boots up..
Lance
Resolution I think
I turned off 'Making device discoverable to other devices' and it seems to have solved this problem, I am using the phone with a parrot kit and it kept disconnecting now it works all the time.
Treo 750 doesn't have this problem
Well, hopefully you owners of Hermes have figured out the fix. I had to return it and now got the Treo 750 and can gladly say the problem is not there. The treo 750 has the v1.2, but I guess following the replies here, that possibly Palm fixed the problem by keeping the BT radio on at all times.
In any case, here is the post I wrote in avic411.com forum - if you want to see any follow up responses by other owners..
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24170
cheers
Phal
Bluetooth cut out
I am having the problem too with the garmin Nuvi and the Tytn - which is ineresting seeing as how one poster had no problem with the Garmin device. Here is something else that is interesting - I did not have the problem when I had the HTC 1.18 Rom installed. After I flashed the HTC 1.35 Rom, the problem began. I have already tried upgrading my firmware on the Nuvi - that did not help. I also use a Nokia 800 bluetooth headset - and that never cuts out with either ROM. I will try turning off the bluetooth discovery first. If that does not work, will try editing the registry. Keep you posted.
Turning off bluetooth discovery did not work.
Turning Off Bluetooth Did Not Work For Me Either
this worked for me.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&page=10
drains the battery quicker, but no more bluetooth problems.....
Hey guys, has anybody found a solution for the auto turning off of the BT in suspend mode? its gettin really annoying
Hi all,
I know there are plenty of threads about the TyTN bluetooth issues, but my questions differs in two ways which I have yet to come across:
I do NOT have M$ VoiceCommander installed (and don't want to install it)
My bluetooth issue relates to my car's handsfree feature - my TyTN randomly connects and disconnects. Apparently Audis, VWs, BMWs, and Acura's all suffer from this this problem.
The situation:
When I start my car, the phone will successfully merge with my TyTN. Approximately 30 to 60 seconds later, the connection will be lost. Shortly after that the connection will re-establish itself, then it will disconnect itself a short period later. This pattern repeats endlessly.
I've tried each of the following Tweak programs but none have helped.
jetwaremobile
Tweak2k
HTweakC
I've heard that there is some kind of registry tweak that will prevent the bluetooth stack from disconnecting from my car's handsfree feature, but after looking for about 2 days now, I can't find it. Can anyone help?
thanks.
jm
Yep, got exactly the same on my BMW 630....
Can t find any tweak but....
I am a heavy email user (thru BlackBerry connect) and I noticed that
the higher the number of messages stored, the higher disconnections appears.
At the same time, the TyTn is slower and slower....so my idea that this is related to some timeouts somewhere....
For your complete info, the MS bluetooth stack in my previuos S100 have able to.....immobilize my 630 !!!!!!!!! yes, incredible...
The MS stack messed up with the BMW bt ...and this later would stay ON for ever...even after switching car s power off.
This was sucking the car s battery untill the car would start !...
BMW could not reset the BT module unless disconnecting battery....but...then the active steering had to be re adjusted with the proper BMW computer...
This is a real story.
johnmclean said:
Hi all,
I know there are plenty of threads about the TyTN bluetooth issues, but my questions differs in two ways which I have yet to come across:
I do NOT have M$ VoiceCommander installed (and don't want to install it)
My bluetooth issue relates to my car's handsfree feature - my TyTN randomly connects and disconnects. Apparently Audis, VWs, BMWs, and Acura's all suffer from this this problem.
The situation:
When I start my car, the phone will successfully merge with my TyTN. Approximately 30 to 60 seconds later, the connection will be lost. Shortly after that the connection will re-establish itself, then it will disconnect itself a short period later. This pattern repeats endlessly.
I've tried each of the following Tweak programs but none have helped.
jetwaremobile
Tweak2k
HTweakC
I've heard that there is some kind of registry tweak that will prevent the bluetooth stack from disconnecting from my car's handsfree feature, but after looking for about 2 days now, I can't find it. Can anyone help?
thanks.
jm
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I have the same problem with a CK3100 kit, don't have a solution, but would like one, didn't have this problem with a Jasjar nor Wizard
TyTN bluetooth | random disconnect when using car handsfree - more details
Thanks for the replies so far.
Although the following thread did not help me with my problem, it might help one of you. If you're having problems mostly related to issuing voice commands using M$ VoiceCommander, I think there *might* be a solution in that other thread for you.
Just to reiterate my problem; my TyTN keeps randomly connecting and disconnecting from my car's built-in hands free bluetooth device.
There was a time when if i managed to made a call after first starting the car - before the first random disconnect - the phone would remain connected until the next time I started the car. That no longer appears to be the case.
-jm
I solved the BT problem with my Orange SPV M3100 by setting it to never switch off the display automatically (only switching off the backlight after 20 seconds or so). I also use an in-car charger to power the TyTN. The car is an A6 with RNS-E (BT enabled) and TyTN works fine and never loses the BT connection as long as the display is active.
This is a mid-term solution though and I'm still eagerly waiting for a ROM update that will solve the problem for good.
Has anyone tried a ROM with aku 3.3?
jasonrhcastle said:
Has anyone tried a ROM with aku 3.3?
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Yes.
And on my CK3100 I now no longer get disconnects. I did have to uninstall jetware as it wasn't reliable. My TyTN now connects perfectly and no longer drops.
One thing I did find is that the TyTN hates it when more than one handsfree device is in its trusted list. Make sure that the ck3100 is the only handsfree device paired.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&highlight=bluetooth+keeps+disconnecting
ajax007 said:
I solved the BT problem with my Orange SPV M3100 by setting it to never switch off the display automatically (only switching off the backlight after 20 seconds or so). I also use an in-car charger to power the TyTN. The car is an A6 with RNS-E (BT enabled) and TyTN works fine and never loses the BT connection as long as the display is active.
This is a mid-term solution though and I'm still eagerly waiting for a ROM update that will solve the problem for good.
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I've tried changing the automatic switch off setting and it made no difference on my SPV M3100 (with Parrot CK3100) - I reckon that the external power is what fixed your problem (this has worked for others too).
Sadly it's not a convenient fix as I like to leave my phone in my pocket when I'm in and out of the car. Orange say there is no 'issue' so there's no sign of a ROM update but HTC know of the problem but I have to wait for Orange to release their ROM update. I can't use the HTC update. If only us Orange users could tell them enough times they might listen now that some AKU 3.3s are being released. Orange technical department won't speak to end users like me - they have actually refused to discuss it with me and just pass messages back and forth from customer relations. Any other ideas?
A solution - thanks to Parrot
Yippee - thanks to Parrot I have got a solution to the TYTN / CK3100 problem (my phone is the Orange SPV M3100).
As Orange and HTC can't find any solution I kept asking Parrot for ideas. Their excellent customer service department tried various settings which made no difference until I was offered a trial of some beta test software called VCF creator. Once you have the VCF from the PC's Outlook you just need to beam it by BT across to the CK3100 and alter some settings (takes 5 minutes maximum). The small sacrifice is that you don't have auto-synchronisation so if your numbers change a lot you will need to do another VCF upload. The extra bonus benefit is that all your numbers will be grouped together. So, for example, you access someones name and then you can see their mobile/home/work number rather than having a separate line in the main list for each phone number. The problem is a result of how Windows Mobile phones provide the data. With this bonus you can then use voice activation to input a name followed by a keyword mobile, home, work etc. Fantastic!
587dan said:
Yippee - thanks to Parrot I have got a solution to the TYTN / CK3100 problem (my phone is the Orange SPV M3100).
As Orange and HTC can't find any solution I kept asking Parrot for ideas. Their excellent customer service department tried various settings which made no difference until I was offered a trial of some beta test software called VCF creator. Once you have the VCF from the PC's Outlook you just need to beam it by BT across to the CK3100 and alter some settings (takes 5 minutes maximum). The small sacrifice is that you don't have auto-synchronisation so if your numbers change a lot you will need to do another VCF upload. The extra bonus benefit is that all your numbers will be grouped together. So, for example, you access someones name and then you can see their mobile/home/work number rather than having a separate line in the main list for each phone number. The problem is a result of how Windows Mobile phones provide the data. With this bonus you can then use voice activation to input a name followed by a keyword mobile, home, work etc. Fantastic!
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If you use the Jetware BT software you can do the same thing e.g. beam the whole contact list in one go and then set the Parrot to not sync by choosing the Ericsson No Sync profile. This is how I have mine set up, also with the Jetware software it sends over the Service Provider, Battery and Signal strength settings to the Parrot, something which the native stack doesnt do.
Solution for this
Hey all, i have purchased a parrot 3100, the software in it was 1.6, i had the same problems but it's greatly and successfully solved using the new jetware 1.3 . i don't know if i can post some linx here, but here you go, if this is illegal for this site please remove them
http://rapidshare.com/files/30296941/JetWare_1.3.rar
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PL5UX5KC
Does anyone else have a problem with their Bluetooth and HTC touch? I have tried 2 motorola and a LG BT headset and no one can hear me, but I can hear them. I tried pairing and repairing. I deleted it and added it as a new device. I have even tried the BT with another phone and it works with that phone with no problems, so I know it's my phone. I even tried a hard reset. Does anyone have a solutoin to this problem? I have the latest ROM update from HTC's website for a Bell HTC touch. My motorola headset was working fine, but I think after the latest Bell ROM update it stopped. Does anyone else have this problem or can anyone suggest a solution? thanks. paul.
my jawbone did this but my plantanics 510 fine
My jawbone works fine but there's a problem using hands free connection with my '05 range rover. The phone and the truck connect but then the connection is dropped. My buddy has a motorola razor and his phone works great w/my truck. It appears to be my phone that's the problem. Any suggestions on this?
Thanks so much.
jarmijo said:
My jawbone works fine but there's a problem using hands free connection with my '05 range rover. The phone and the truck connect but then the connection is dropped. My buddy has a motorola razor and his phone works great w/my truck. It appears to be my phone that's the problem. Any suggestions on this?
Thanks so much.
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What ROM are you running?
I am running the NFSFAN 6.5 rom V11 and have he same issue with a motorola BT headset.
edit: i just noticed that the initial question was about a newer ROM update and bluetooth, but ill leave my initial reply here, cuz i often look for solution in old posts, so if this can help anybody :
NFSFAN 6.5 rom V11 and bluetooth
i dunno, but my bluetooth stuff somehow works with the 6.1 update, if you cant find any working solution within an hour, id suggest using a "well tried and tested" ROM version, like the 6.1
i stopped picking the "latest and greatest" in cars, devices, apps, or O.S. for the last two years, and been living a whole lot happier since.
about my 6.1 bell mobility ROM and bluetooth :
i like to tweak my weapons alot, my htc touch has a 6.1 ROM update, and i use bluetooth everyday, and it KINDA works well, enough for me anyway...
listening to mp3 and flv everyday on the transit,
then switching at work on the audio dongle adaptor on the pc,
using an pair of sonorix bsh-100 ( foldable stereo headset + optional plug-in mike)
to me the thruth is that bluetooth is a ****ty technology, i love it, and it's well taught,
but the developpers quickly code ****ty interfaces to it.
my settings all work from htc touch to dongle, but i often have to connect the touch to the headset like up to 3 times, where it tells me its connected, but isnt, when i hear the beep, it means it actually IS.
same at work, connect sometimes once, twice, even four, it eventually connects.
it's isnt button wear off or bad contact, its just the code is ****.
i rented a SUV that had bluetooth, tried connecting my phone, worked first time, a week later we rented the same SUV model, and for the whole trip i wasnt able to connect at all... back at the rental we tested the SUV with the clerck htc touch ( nice coincidence ) it worked right away.
i want to add here that whenever i try to connect through bluetooth, it usually works the first time.
my point is, bluetooth creators did a fine innovative job, but werent supported by developpers.
test your bluetooth phone alot with friends owning bluetooth accessories, youll detect behaviors after a while, and will learn to know its "demons" !
a bluetooth everyday user
V13 seemed to fix the issue
Just upgraded to V13, seems like BT works a lot better.
A bit on my history with BY, I just upgraded from a motorola V710, had a Moto Q for a few months too. Never had any issues with BT using the same Motorola BT earpiece, and varouis others through the last 5 years or so. Always worked like a champ, this was my first experience with BT issues.
Hi, i recently got a HTC HD Touch on Orange which i bought on ebay. The phone already came loaded with WM 6.5 on and so far i love it except for one problem. I have a Datsun 350z with intergrated bluetooth. When i tried to search on my phone it couldnt see anything, so this morning i upgraded my phones ROM to the latest Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_5.2.23016.5.0.3_Leo_R5. Since then i can search and find the bluetooth device of the car, input the pin code for it and it is added in my devices tab, however nothing appears in the "Select services to use from this device" section.
I am wondering if nyone had any idea if i am doing something wrong or whether its jsut that my car doesnt support the phone? I was also thinking about reverting back to WM6.1, would that work? Also, how do i go about getting a vanilla copy of WM 6.1?
Any help would be much appreciated,
Regards
jc0r
Just a quick update. I can get the phone to connect to the bluetooth module in the car but its not easy. Basically when i put the keys in ignition that bluetooth gets power, i then have to quickly search for bluetooth devices on my phone and then it will connect. Would be nice if the phone just connected everytime to the car like my Blackberry did. Is this hardware or software problem please?
Not that anyone actually cares about my problem but i thought i post the answer up for anyone that might be struggling in future.
What was stopping my Bluetooth working with my car was having WiFi on. When i disable WiFi the car + phone works perfectly together. In my particular situation i use my phone to connect to an ad-hoc network, and because the phone is not connected to the ad-hoc when in my car the searching constantly is causing the problem. Whether this would be the same with infrustucture mode im not sure.
I have 2 TP2 both with Vodafone UK WM6.5 stock ROMs.
Have just tried to send pictures between them but get the message "Device does not support a suitable service to perform this operation"
I can send to an old sony but when i paired the TP2s it didnt give me the option to transfer filec for some reason?
Any one know if there is a solution or if this is something i will not be able to get round?
I'm also having all sorts of crap with bluetooth from connecting and not connecting to having to disable and enable all the time to get it to work again.
Havnt got it to work at all, never had a problem with WM6.5. strange they see each other but wont send and recieve
I have a bluetooth function in my Volvo. Worked as a charm with the O2 Live of my wife and my HTC TP.
Since I have the TP2, I can't get it to work. Tried to pair them from both sides and everything seems to work, until I want to call or get a call...
On dashboard screen I can scroll my contacts, but when it comes to call, I see the calling and connecting, but NO sound!!!
Quite frustrating, as I drive alot around.
Had this with the WM6.1 and hoped this would be resolved with the 6.5 (changing back to the original MS BT stack), but no...
Anybody fresh ideas or work-arounds?
Just spoke to HTC, they are unaware of any problems but he is going to get a couple of phones to try them out then get back to me so hopfully there will be a solution soon?
I am having a similar problem with the ATT Tilt2 version and my 2005 TL. Everything connects just fine, but if I try to make a call it just disconnects. If I delete and re-pair the phone it will work until I leave the car. Sometimes rebooting the phone also makes it work. I seem to remember an issue with my Kaiser early on and HTC put our a BT update. I have also reported this to HTC via the web form but haven't heard back yet.
Same here, was able to receive files from an i900 Omnia but wasn't able to send files to this i900 Omnia! Really strange!
Havnt heard back yet but have also just noticed other devices can not find TP2 even though i can find them.
Have made sure my device is visible and all bluetooth is on, trouble is i dont know anyone else with this phone to compare but as i have 2 bought months apart and they act the same im asuming its a fault with software and hoping theres a fix?
My problem is a little different, if I try to use activesync through bluetooth, my headset disconnects, which is pretty stupid.
I really wonder why the hell did they change the bluetooth stack from microsoft, giving us a fancy bluetooth manager interface but crappy performance / less features.
Any ideas or fixes? Cant seem to find any
I found the issue with mine... for whatever reason the BT while showing connected will not place a call while the phone is locked. I always lock my phone so I don't make calls and create bogus contacts in my pockets. I had Wn6.5 on my 2 yr old Tilt (TyTn II) and this wasn't an issue, nor was it with 6.0 and 6.1...
Anyone experienced this or know how to disable?
igo keyboard and mouse
tilt 2 bluetooth conectivity would allow igo keyboard and mouse connect to it software, cant get them to work.
any sugestions
It's not a good sign that Jet Blue doesn't work with the TP2 bluetooth stack.
any one off u have have tomtom installed if u do that can be the prob i have a tilt2 and with tomtom installed i coulnt use bluetooth take a look at a fix i made just incase that is ur problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4822359&postcount=44