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Lack of Bluetooth Manager

Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin

This will help and is free!
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html

alvin5785 said:
Hey ppl,
just bought these excellent machine (onestopphoneshop, cheap as chips!) but im avin bit of a problem with the bluetooth. it works, one way, i can use my headset and ppl can send me files thu it. however i cant for the hell of me get it to send files, i can thu IR, just not bluetooth. no where, not even file explorer does it say "send via bluetooth" or watever. also my friend has just got a pocketpc with 2003 on, and she says tht she has a "bluetooth manager"which is nowhere to be seen on mine!!
is this a normal problem, or is my xda2 crazy??
thx alot
alvin
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Alvin... Try this.
Firstly, turn bluetooth ON, on your phone, in the normal way.
Then, in File Explorer, tap AND HOLD, on an image file, til the context menu pops up (you are probably already doing this anyway, if you say you can send by IR).
Then select the option to "BEAM FILE" to send the image.
Now this is the informative bit... In the screen that then appears, you will see a magnifying glass icon or two - one for Infra Red beaming, the other one meaning it is still searching for devices.
What you SHOULD also have IF another BT device is in range, is a kind of standard radio transmit indicator, of a circle or dot, with radial rings coming out from it (or at least something similar, as I am going of the top of my head here). THIS is the indicator for a BLUETOOTH device. You will have a few of these in the list, if there is more than one device in range
Its a slow discovery process, but after a while, this indicator, will have an identification code alongside it - this is the hexadecimal notation for the device you wish to send it to.
Leave it searching for a while, and this will then change to the proper name of the other device.
At that point, you can then tap SEND where it indicates, to beam the file by BT.
Note - for it to send, the receiving phone needs to be set up to receive files, be discoverable etc etc.
And as a note, for the XDA2 to be able to receive files, the option to Recieve incoming beams, needs to be ON too - this is often forgotten.
See the screen shots I have knowcked up for more info...

hey thxs for tht ppl, i will try what you said 2moro Shadamehr thx. i went to tht link but unfortuneatly it aint really helped, its more to do with power saving n stuff, not sendin files.
erm i do have another question tho, i have a fellin the answers gonna be no. Can i use my bluetooth headset as normal earpiece/mic for system sounds etc not just phone calls?
thx for ur help

Not with the current bluetooth software.

fair dos, ill just av to wait!
but back to the bluetooth manager, why dont i have one? do all xda2's not have one??
and i still havent managed to send owt yet, but i aint tried to hard yet, ill keep at it!

The Microsoft Bluetooth implentation is very different from the ones you'll find on Ipaq machines, which use the Widcomm Bluetooth stack. It seems like a lot of functionality is missing on the Microsoft one, but in fact a lot is there; it's just not logically organised. Downloading and installing the Bluetooth tools linked above will provide some of the features you probably think you're missing. Try it!
Hope this helps.

Bluetooth question/problem

Hey,
I flashed my 8125 with Summiter's Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE-RINGRS-OCLOCK.exe.
I have a question now: can I use Bluetooth File Transfer Service with Bluesoleil Bluetooth USB dongle?
If not, is there a way to fix it?
Also I cannot send/receive files (like tones or pictures) via BT... This is really weird since most of BT enabled phones have this option, even the cheapest of them...
Don't get me wrong, but it's kinda embarrasing when a guy shows off with his RAZR sending pictures and stuff and I can't...
HELP, PLEASE....
Ps. yeah... I hate RAZR's...

I am not familiar with that ROM but you should be able to pair with that dongle - just make sure both are discoverable and they should be able to pair. Also you can send files via bluetooth use the inbuilt file explorer and click on file and menu should appear - choose beam file and bluetooth window will appear

Nope... it doesn't... I got only IR...

Need more info to help.
Does your bluetooth go on and is it discoverable? Does blue indicator light flash? Did bluetooth work before flashing with new rom?
Cuz you should definitely be able to bt with file explorer. If not i assume its a rom problem and would suggest trying to flash back to original rom.

Well, the BT itself works well. I use BT earpiece and SellingClicker with no problems.
Yet, I don't have an option to beam anything via BT... Only IR or MMS.
And I have no idea whether it worked with oroginal ROM since I flashed it the very second day I got it... Yeah, yeah... I know... that was stupid...
Anyways, any other suggestions?

I figured out a way how to send files from one phone to the other... (I think, coz I didn't really test throughfuly)
The big question is: how do I send and receive files to the PC without using ActiveSync?

You have to....
...have your bluetooth om and discoverable to be able to send files via bluetooth.
Once you tap "Beam", you'll have to wait a few seconds to see the option to send via btooth. You'll first see just the "Infared" prompt, then underneath it, you'll start to see "Unknown Devices" appear, Unknown Device changing to the actual device name, once you MDA picks it up. Then you can tap to send to that particular device.
So you can do it....I just think it's misleading that it only says "Beam".....

Re: You have to....
Jaidnoire said:
...have your bluetooth om and discoverable to be able to send files via bluetooth.
Once you tap "Beam", you'll have to wait a few seconds to see the option to send via btooth. You'll first see just the "Infared" prompt, then underneath it, you'll start to see "Unknown Devices" appear, Unknown Device changing to the actual device name, once you MDA picks it up. Then you can tap to send to that particular device.
So you can do it....I just think it's misleading that it only says "Beam".....
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Yes, but when I finally send it to the PC all the PC does is open MS Outlook and that's it...
The way I see it is that OBEX file is nothing else but a "business card" file read only by outlook.
Did you try sending files both ways yourself?

:-(
common guys... help, please..
Just now I was trying to send a 5mb file from PC to phone via the Bluetooth Object Push Transfer. It was working for about 5 min and... nothing... the PC says: Object Push Service is disconnected... on the phone there is nothing. Even the memory status stays exactly as it was 10 min ago... :-(
help, please

Please help: can't beam files using bluetooth port.

i have a mda vario and i want to beam files to another phone thru bluetooth but there is no outgoing port. when i go to bluetooth settings and to com ports, only new incoming port is shown. i cant add a new outgoing port. please someone help me on this.

lsnizzle said:
i have a mda vario and i want to beam files to another phone thru bluetooth but there is no outgoing port. when i go to bluetooth settings and to com ports, only new incoming port is shown. i cant add a new outgoing port. please someone help me on this.
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Hi,
You'll probably need to start bluetooth via the comm manager.
It will find other hardware with open bluetooth ports.
- Go to the file you wish to beam to someone else.
- Tap the file (keep the stylus on it untill you get the menu)
- Choose " send file" (this might be called differently, my version is dutch)
- Select bluetooth.
Good luck!
Greetz,
Flar

it doesnt seem to work
when I beam a file, it never detects a bluetooth. all it shows is the Infared and searching... it searches for a long time but never detects a bluetooth. any other suggestions?

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lsnizzle said:
when I beam a file, it never detects a bluetooth. all it shows is the Infared and searching... it searches for a long time but never detects a bluetooth. any other suggestions?
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Hi,
The procedure I gave seems to work properly with my MDA.
You could check if the person you're beaming to has bluetooth (turned on) but I guess you've checked that already.
Otherwise try to minimize the distance between the two pieces of hardware.
If that doesn't solve your problem, I can't help you any further, maybe bring it by the shop where you bought it to have it checked?
Good luck & greetz,
Flar

yeah same here never managed to get bluetooth to work
i found that i needed to enable beam recieve in order to recieve on bluetooth, the incoming and outgoing port stuff i left alone.
so i can now receive files but haven't got a clue how to send them, i make a bluetooth partnership ok (my mate can then send me a file) but i can not find the option to send one back. the file explorer menu doesn't have bluetooth listed on it?

R_J_Webb said:
yeah same here never managed to get bluetooth to work
i found that i needed to enable beam recieve in order to recieve on bluetooth, the incoming and outgoing port stuff i left alone.
so i can now receive files but haven't got a clue how to send them, i make a bluetooth partnership ok (my mate can then send me a file) but i can not find the option to send one back. the file explorer menu doesn't have bluetooth listed on it?
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I am having this same issue. Anyone know the solution? All I want to do is send some files to my wife's v3 but I cant setup a new outgoing port. I am running the latest official rom from cingular.

You need to ensure you already have bluetooth turned on before starting this procedure (many miss this simple point, as they assume it will automatically turned on)
Tap and hold on the file you want to send, and select "Beam"
Wait a few seconds for it to scan for devices.
All IRDA recipients (If any) will be listed, and below them, all available Bluetooth recipients will be shown.
Hope this helps you m8

I'm using TMobile MDA, newest ROM, and having the same problem, I'm able to recieve bluetooth but there is no option for beaming a file via bluetooth, only IR... and yes, bluetooth is enabled properly and I am properly partnered with a V3...

RE: can't beam files using bluetooth port.
lsnizzle said:
i have a mda vario and i want to beam files to another phone thru bluetooth but there is no outgoing port. when i go to bluetooth settings and to com ports, only new incoming port is shown. i cant add a new outgoing port. please someone help me on this.
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Make sure both phones are enabled to be "seen" . My friend and I were trying to figure this out the other day, and she has her device set to something like 'make this device invisible' so even though our phones were next to each other, her device wasn't showing up. Once we changed this, both devices were visible.
***However, neither phone was allowing the sending of files to each other thru the bluetooth, and I'm wondering if this has something to do with her having a Sprint Treo 650 w/ Palm OS, and I have Cingular 8125 w/ WM5.... anyone have any answers for this one??***
Thanks in advance.

Bluetooth File Transfer

Hello Every1,
I would like to apologies first in case this topics has been already been talked about, but I could not find anything.
My V1605 has a problem if I trasfer file via bluetooth to my laptop or any pc with bluetooth I can do it but if I try to transfer the file from a laptop or a pc with bluetooth the pc say that it cannot find the service on my pda.
I've tryed modifying the registry:
HLM\Software\Microsoft\Obex\IsEnabled from 0 to 1
But eveytime I soft rest the PDA it goes back to 0.
I've try without soft rest but I stll cannot transfer file from my laptop to my PDA I've try changing the Registry and switch off the PDA for 10 minute then soft rest but I get the same thing the Registry goes back to 0.
Is the something that I',m missing to get the bluetooth to transfer both way or is it that this unit cannot do it??????
Please Help.
Thank You
Gigino

Settings > Connections > Beam > receive all
V

This is something very basic but thought to still write in case you are missing it.
Navigate to Start / Settings / Connections(tab) and open the 'Beam' icon. See if the checkbox 'Receive all incoming beams' is checked. This should be checked.
This is sometimes confused as being for infra red transfer only whereas this also applies to bluetooth file transfer.
Hope this helps
Regards

srmz said:
This is sometimes confused as being for infra red transfer only whereas this also applies to bluetooth file transfer.
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Yup, it's very confusing - this is why I've elaborated on this question at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=1196&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Still Problems
Hello
Thank you every1 that put a solution on the forum but I'm afraid I still have the same problem.
I've put the tick in the receive all beam box but I still cannot transfer file via bluetooth to my pda.
I've checked the registry to see if the Obex is ste to 1 and it is.
When I click on my bluetooth icon on my laptop I search for a bluetooth device it find my pda a tap on my pda to transfer a file and I get a message on my laptop saying:
Service File Transfer Is Not Availabe On Device Gigi.
Any anther suggestions.
Thanks
Gigino

gigino said:
Hello
Thank you every1 that put a solution on the forum but I'm afraid I still have the same problem.
I've put the tick in the receive all beam box but I still cannot transfer file via bluetooth to my pda.
I've checked the registry to see if the Obex is ste to 1 and it is.
When I click on my bluetooth icon on my laptop I search for a bluetooth device it find my pda a tap on my pda to transfer a file and I get a message on my laptop saying:
Service File Transfer Is Not Availabe On Device Gigi.
Any anther suggestions.
Thanks
Gigino
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Strange. Did you try for example to hack a Widcomm BT stack on it?
(I'm afraid a hard reset is in order...)

Send files using BLuetooth???

After upgrading to WM6, i can't seem to send files using bluetooth. There isnt any options in the file manager menu that allows sending files via bluetooth. U can only beam or send the file using infra. Does anyone encounter this problem or has any solution to it????

hello,
i think it's a little bug, you have to select send to --> via ir
than it will come a list with some possibilities, one of them is sending via blue tooth.
ich think it's an translation bug from the sending menu or something else.
Greetz
MonsyX

turn bean ant bt on, then select beam file and choose the bt device to which you want to send

Well I also can't send files by bluetooth :/ I'm doing what you said about Via IR but BT is not used and there is no option to use it :/

use resco explorer, it is better, you are right that there is no option for beaming via BT

For me, u just beam file and then the phone will detect BT devices. U may select the device and send.

Has anyone been successful in receiving and sending files via bluetooth with the beam off. I just noticed that if the beam off i can neither send or receive files via bluetooth. Can someone confirm this or its just my BA acting weird...

GuWa7 said:
Has anyone been successful in receiving and sending files via bluetooth with the beam off. I just noticed that if the beam off i can neither send or receive files via bluetooth. Can someone confirm this or its just my BA acting weird...
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Do you refer to option "turn incoming beam off"? If you do, then i can't say it's not a bug, it's an option to save battery so you only turn it on when you want to receive/send files.
I hope it helps.

What i mean is you can neither receive or send files via bluetooth if the beam (infrared) is off.
blues01 said:
Do you refer to option "turn incoming beam off"? If you do, then i can't say it's not a bug, it's an option to save battery so you only turn it on when you want to receive/send files.
I hope it helps.
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SOLUTION
All Of U Here Just Use Broadcomm Stack 1.7 By Helmi For All Bt Troubles.

krishan2207 said:
All Of U Here Just Use Broadcomm Stack 1.7 By Helmi For All Bt Troubles.
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I wonder krishan2207 if it resolves Vista Bluetooth Active Sync/WMDC problems. Active sync service is not listed among the options on any of my BT devices. Has anybody made breakthrough at syncing via BT?

I sync via BT. IIRC I had to create a BT com port on the PC to get it going on WM5. On WM6 it finds the ActiveSync service with no problems.

krishan2207 said:
All Of U Here Just Use Broadcomm Stack 1.7 By Helmi For All Bt Troubles.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274425&highlight=Broadcomm+1.7.6.0500
I found the Broadcomm stack 1.7 you were talking about but does this work correctly with wifi.
I remember the 2 of them weren't working together correctly.
Do you have any issues with your wm6 using wifi since you installed this buletooth stack?