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hi
will it be possible to run WM7 on the Xperia or will the Xperia not Support it?
thanks ^^
Gille1 said:
hi
will it be possible to run WM7 on the Xperia or will the Xperia not Support it?
thanks ^^
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First wait and see if it will get 6.5!!!
So far all that's know about WM7 is that it's planned for sometime next year. Whether it will be compatible with the current hardware, or whether MS continues WM after being crushed to pieces from the combined forces of Android, Symbian, MacOS/iPhone, BlackBerry, webOS, ALP, ... - nobody knows...
(Unless maybe Nostradamus, but I don't know that either... )
it will work..we just need to work on it
btw 6.5 is up in rom section
cheers
6.5 is beta not the actual one, have to wait and see at MWC09
so when WM6.5 is released...we ll be able to have it on our current Xperia x1 or do we need to buy a new piece?
The more interesting question is whether there'll be an official and legal update.
If there's an update for a technically similar device, like the Touch HD or maybe even Diamond2, there'll very likely be a cooked ROM for the X1.
But first of all, Microsoft has to release 6.5...
It will still take some time for MS to release WM7. My guess is - not before summer 2010. And devices shipping WM7 maybe christmas 2010.
Until then, WM 6.5 will have to do. However, if the performance will not increase, I will stick with WM 6.1. The speed of all WM 6.5 betas is imo just awfully slow and I have my doubts that this will change with the final version. Even the work-in-progress models with an obviously newer OS version - Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2 seen on YouTube - are not as fast as current WM 6.1 phones.
So lets wait and see. My guess is, that I will switch to another phone when WM 7 is available.
I think I will change another phone when WM 7 is available....
Maybe thant time,there will be a phone w/ 2GHz cpu
The thing is that X1 is not capable for some features designed for WM7.
The most noticably: the gestures - X1 does not have any accelerometers.
My best bet is to get another phone at then
The thing is that X1 is not capable for some features designed for WM7.
The most noticably: the gestures - X1 does not have any accelerometers.
My best bet is to get another phone at then
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Gestures will supposedly work by way of built-in camera. Accelerometers are not required. At least, this is what the WM7 info leak stated.
You guys are failures. I think that pretty much sums it all up. Honestly i believe your going bankrupt in the next couple years, and i hope you do. People here at xda contribute roms (nearly perfect) for free . Keyword: free. While you guys refuse to even give us "Premium" Customers an upgrade to 6.5. Your customer service is simply pathetic, and the X1.5(X2) its going to fail, but hopefully it will sell good in Korea so you can give them SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 panel and Xtract 2 ( so inevitably we could use them) perhaps you should just make a special Korean version that shoots laser beams and is built from adamantanium. SE long story short I am disappointed in you, and so is everyone else with you. at least i think so.
That is all i have to say.
Please discuss or add on.
Amen brother! We are being treated like Second Class Customers even though we have spent as much money as any korean. It is wrong that we have been segregated in this way.
we bought premium device ,we got 3.class support (sometimes no support).
thanks xda for the support
come to think of it...almost all of us here bought X1 on the realease price compare to the price today...then the treatment is not fair...
maybe SE is a die-hard fan of the wonder girls in korea...
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Not sure I understand the relevance to Korea,can someone full me in? Also, SPB Mobile Shell Panel 3.5, is there one?
Korea is treated a lot better than the rest of the world with updates and software, Also there is a SPB 3.5 shell available do a search oh if you meant panel im not sure but hope so
why is everyone complaining anything released in Korea can be found on the net and used on any region x1. the spb 3.0 panel works on any x1 and the xtrakt game was leaked long before the Korean version came out.
sony does not need to give a free 6.5 update on there year old product as they sold it with wm6.1 and never said or gave the impression that they would upgrade it.
if i buy a car and a year later they bring out a facelift model i dont get a free upgrade.
the only companies giving a free upgrade are samsung and htc, both said when they sold there phones that they would give a free upgrade.
also htc is not giving a free upgrade on the htc hd and that was released at the same time as the x1. they are only giving it on the products that was released a few months ago as a lot of people would have not bought them waiting for 6.5 to be released.
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Not sure I understand the relevance to Korea,can someone full me in? Also, SPB Mobile Shell Panel 3.5, is there one?
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there is a 3.5 but not as a panel. which makes the Korean panel out of date already so dont know why people are complaining.
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the xtrakt game was leaked long before the Korean version came out..
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Exactly! LEAKED not OFFICIAL, I am not downloading many, many, many cabs on my X1 to make it slow just to do what the X2 does.
I want OFFICIAL UPDATES via SEUS just like KOREA, if they have something I want it to.
(damn I sound like a spoilt child)
I want it now wwwwwaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh wwwwwwaaaaaahhhhh!
the have done 2 firmware updates and there may be one more to come.
You still believe that, Ganondolf? And please...the software updates were minor bug fixes. Still no fast panels. And why the hell should we not get 6.5 when the X1 can run it perfectly.
Maybe the korean people get 6.5 Thanks for the nice thread opening post @clubx1
I don't care who gets the sruff as long as someone does lol. Don't hate the Koreans, hate SE. i really do not care who gets what. The important thing is that we would get it sooner or later as well, thanks to XDA .
Everything else in the OP is spot on.
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the have done 2 firmware updates and there may be one more to come.
You still believe that, Ganondolf? And please...the software updates were minor bug fixes. Still no fast panels. And why the hell should we not get 6.5 when the X1 can run it perfectly.
Maybe the korean people get 6.5 Thanks for the nice thread opening post @clubx1
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i dont care if they dont bring out a r4 update as my x1 runs fast and smooth. SE have already said that there will be new panels for the x1 (dont expect the tileware panel). so what if the x1 can run 6.5, u expect SE to pay and give u it free because u want to be a cheap scape. if u want 6.5 buy a 6.5 phone.
and dont give me the i dont want a x2 because it has the same cpu and ram moaning. sony and i dont care. buy a x2 or buy a different make 6.5 phone or keep your x1 but PLEASE STOP CRYING AND MOANING LIKE CHILDREN.
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i dont care if they dont bring out a r4 update as my x1 runs fast and smooth. SE have already said that there will be new panels for the x1 (dont expect the tileware panel). so what if the x1 can run 6.5, u expect SE to pay and give u it free because u want to be a cheap scape. if u want 6.5 buy a 6.5 phone.
and dont give me the i dont want a x2 because it has the same cpu and ram moaning. sony and i dont care. buy a x2 or buy a different make 6.5 phone or keep your x1 but PLEASE STOP CRYING AND MOANING LIKE CHILDREN.
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Frakking true!
Im glad we are all sharing our opinions.
@ Ganondolf
I disagree with you on this case, the car example was horrible, im not asking for an x2 im asking for an OS. I dont understand why SE or HTC for that matter cant give 6.5 to devices that can handle it. Like i mentioned we have great cooks here and their roms are nearly perfect. What upsets me and many others is, if these guys can do it for free( or a beer ) and make an excellent ROM, why isn't SE doing anything for us? End of the day its a matter of principle, you cant treat you customers like s***t and expect them to buy your goods, and be happy with you. I wanted to buy either the X2 or the X3 but after seeing how they treat customers and their updates ( lack of), i don't think i want to anymore.
@ everybody else
thanks for the discussion, keep it going, the more opinions the better understanding we have of how the community feels about the issue.
P.S the Korea comment was satirical, since they seem to get the latest stuff i thought id throw it out there.
"i dont care if they dont bring out a r4 update as my x1 runs fast and smooth. SE have already said that there will be new panels for the x1 (dont expect the tileware panel). so what if the x1 can run 6.5, u expect SE to pay and give u it free because u want to be a cheap scape. if u want 6.5 buy a 6.5 phone."
Well, it runs fast and smooth. But for me panels are too slow, there could be more panels. Videos have to be converted before you can watch them on your X1. All those things annoy me.
Of course I will buy a 6.5 phone - that's absolutely not the point!
But to consider buying a SE again I want 6.5 as an update. This phone is an "experiment" like they said and I don't want to be treated like that. I will subscribe every attempt to get another update since I paid so much for that freakin phone.
If you think we are winer, fine, no one forces you guys to follow the thread. Just go to youtube and watch some videos instead of wasting your time here...
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What upsets me and many others is, if these guys can do it for free( or a beer ) and make an excellent ROM, why isn't SE doing anything for us?
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Maybe because SE will have to pay a licence to give WM6.5 to X1 user so they can't do it for free...
"Maybe because SE will have to pay a license to give WM6.5 to X1 user so they can't do it for free..."
Perhaps that is true, but id be willing to pay for a 6.5 Official upgrade from SE, and I am sure others wouldn't mind either.
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Im glad we are all sharing our opinions.
@ Ganondolf
I disagree with you on this case, the car example was horrible, im not asking for an x2 im asking for an OS. I dont understand why SE or HTC for that matter cant give 6.5 to devices that can handle it. Like i mentioned we have great cooks here and their roms are nearly perfect. What upsets me and many others is, if these guys can do it for free( or a beer ) and make an excellent ROM, why isn't SE doing anything for us? End of the day its a matter of principle, you cant treat you customers like s***t and expect them to buy your goods, and be happy with you. I wanted to buy either the X2 or the X3 but after seeing how they treat customers and their updates ( lack of), i don't think i want to anymore.
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Do you know how the market (and the whole world) functions? If you need something, you have to pay for ot. If companies start giving stuff for free - what's the point of their existense? They shuld rename themselves "charities" or go bankrupt.
When you bought the X1, you got a phone (hardware) and an OS (software). Why would anyone give one of those things to you for free? Why should you get something, that you haven't paid for? It's another OS, not just a bug fix update.
Seriously, use your brain.
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"Maybe because SE will have to pay a license to give WM6.5 to X1 user so they can't do it for free..."
Perhaps that is true, but id be willing to pay for a 6.5 Official upgrade from SE, and I am sure others wouldn't mind either.
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Perhaps? Perhaps what? Do you think SE got WinMo out of thin air?
About the paying for an official upgrade.
This is something entirely different and you can make a "are you willing to pay for a 6.5 upgrade" thread. Whining about not getting stuff for free and paying for the upgrade are completely different.
i somehow agree about the update to 6.5 - it's not a free one from microsoft, so SE would have to buy a second license for each phone...
but orelsi, do you think we got our money's worth back with the x1 in the first place? obviously SE did everything they should have done for the x1 for the x2 with 6.5, and they started doing that half a year ago. (THAT'S what i'm complaining about, i can see on my x1 now what would have been possible with this hardware!!! but not officially.)
don't forget, that's the other side of how the market/world works: it's a buyer's market. but obviously SE isn't interested in a good reputation as a smartphone-seller. but so what, not my problem.
What do you guys think of getting involved in a class action against HTC/Microsoft if HD2 is not allowed WP7? Now that WP7 is announced, many software companies are going to stop (or already stopped) developing for WinMo 6.5 and we are left outside with an already bricked 2 month old device (it's not even out for USA). I don't like paying $1.000 (yes it is that expensive where I live) for a device which will be outdated in 2 months. HTC and Microsoft should be more loyal to their customers than that. What do you all think?
HTC and Microsoft never promised a WP7S upgrade.
If you're thinking about raising a class action for something that wasn't in the contract of sale, you are, as we say in Scotland, an eejit (idiot).
Sell your HD2 now and be phone-less for 6 months, then buy a Wp7s capable phone. Or at the very least wait for an official announcement on whether it will be upgradable or not.
they never promised an upgrade, but they never said that we won't be able to use WP7 apps as well. Even when you buy a desktop PC with Windows, you're given the option of free upgrade when the new OS is imminent, else no one would buy. And that's when you can still perfectly use all the new applications on your old OS. Don't you feel kinda being cheated, is it only me??
bricked device? it still works doesn't it? you've got a year or so before 7 really hits the mass market, that doesn't stop your phone from working NOW.
do you look at cars the same way? I got my Renault Laguna, it's made in 2001 but I'm not moaning because they don't let me upgrade to the nice shiny 2010 model engine just because i have an older version.
I don't get the complaining about being able to have 7 on their phone when clearly it doesn't have the hardware (4 point multi touch, 3 buttons etc) that windows 7 needs.
I'm sure MS or HTC will take the OS as far as they feel like before 7 rolls out and I would not doubt that some of the clever code monkeys here on XDA will be able to cook up a fantastic 7 ROM that will work in some way on our currently working and rather impressive HD2's
why are people complaining about not having win7 available on the device when it is out in about 7 months time? Did you buy the HD2 SOLELY on the basis it would have this upgrade in OS? Did HTC promise you that it was going to upgraded to win7 when it came out?
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they never promised an upgrade, but they never said that we won't be able to use WP7 apps as well. Even when you buy a desktop PC with Windows, you're given the option of free upgrade when the new OS is imminent, else no one would buy. And that's when you can still perfectly use all the new applications on your old OS. Don't you feel kinda being cheated, is it only me??
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WP7 is not new version of WM6.5. Call it Zune Phone and it all becomes clear.
And even if free upgrade is offered sometimes with desktop computers, it clearly is stated as a part of the contract. Here it was not. If you don't like it, you should have not bought it.
I had thought of hanging on to my Touch Pro until WP7 came out. I ended up getting the HD2 and I've never had so much fun with a phone.
We are spoiled rotten in this community. I can get my device to do anything I want it to do and a few things I hadn't even thought of thanks to the hard work, generosity and smarts of the good people who contribute to these forums.
Come on! We don't even know if we will like WP7 yet! Enjoy the amazing device you have. Modify it, flash it, load a thousand apps on it if you like.
By the time WP7 is stable, usable and has a load of good apps, we'll probably be good and ready for an upgrade.
If the HD2 does everything you need in a phone what does it matter if it will run 7 or not? Especially if HTC never promised it would.
If its just for epeen status you're gonna look like gypsy joe anyway come the time trying to run a new OS on an old phone. Either way I am sure some bright spark on XDA will make 7 run on the HD2.
Also remember that WP7 is brand new OS with no applications at all. It will take at least a year till it will start to be usable for basic operation. We don't know how hard it will be to adapt actual applications. It might be minor modifications, it might be totally impossible, and everything would have to be done from the scratch.
Yes .. we all want new better WM .. but WP7 is just not that.
How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.
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How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.
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you are right but most applications developers stoped developing for wm6.5 and starts to develope for the upcoming wp7 series so it is wm6.5 end (but not in an official way)
reasons why this bull
1 in the box which my htc hd2 was piece of paper saying that this phone would get a upgrade to wm7
2 there footage of wm7 on the htc hd2
3 the fact that ms always denie all rumours about all their products
4 no device has 4 point mutil touch if was the case this would be a big deal for microsoft as apple owns the patents for true mutil touch screens
5 windows specs change all the time and this is true for all software
6 the htc hd2 pro is coming out and professionals would want wm7
a piece of paper may say they will do 7 but maybe the rules changed and they discovered in the full release version they can't run wm7
i'm sure the initial idea was great but reality has deemed the hd2 not suitable for wm7
would a pro want an OS that's not allowing backward compatibility of their "pro" apps? no so maybe they'll stick with 6.5xxxx
have you actually tried wm7 yet? all this fuss and it might turn out to be rubbish then i guess you'll bring another class action against MS to say you want 6.5 back
whether it be Apple/MS/HTC they can't please everyone but to rant about it BEFORE the OS is out is pretty pointless. think logically rather than throw toys from pram please
I think WP7 will be business oriented. Only think they can do better then the others would be exchange synchronization. Otherwise I see no reason why would anybody buy it. And before new apps are done for it, iPhone will have new version, Android will be at 3.0 and another players may show up.
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What do you guys think of getting involved in a class action against HTC/Microsoft if HD2 is not allowed WP7? Now that WP7 is announced, many software companies are going to stop (or already stopped) developing for WinMo 6.5 and we are left outside with an already bricked 2 month old device (it's not even out for USA). I don't like paying $1.000 (yes it is that expensive where I live) for a device which will be outdated in 2 months. HTC and Microsoft should be more loyal to their customers than that. What do you all think?
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Sorry guys, I couldn't help it
this forum gets dumber by the day.
I'll Stick with 6.5!
Why does anyone want WP7 anyway? My phone works just the way I want it (now, after a few problems initially), it is fast, looks great and makes most other phones look like they were just dug up in an episode of Time Team!
I have just about every app I could want, running beautifully and doing pretty much everything I could ever need. If I was offered WP7 today I would say no! An untried OS with no software support for at least another 6 months (after release) and we don't know how customizable or flexible it will be... I'd be mad to jump ship from 6.5!
When I know what the new OS actually is, when I know I can get all the software I require and that I can make the phone the way I want it and that the OS is something I actually like THEN... I'll have a new device that will have even more bells and whistles and this won't be an issue...
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Why does anyone want WP7 anyway? My phone works just the way I want it (now, after a few problems initially), it is fast, looks great and makes most other phones look like they were just dug up in an episode of Time Team!
I have just about every app I could want, running beautifully and doing pretty much everything I could ever need. If I was offered WP7 today I would say no! An untried OS with no software support for at least another 6 months (after release) and we don't know how customizable or flexible it will be... I'd be mad to jump ship from 6.5!
When I know what the new OS actually is, when I know I can get all the software I require and that I can make the phone the way I want it and that the OS is something I actually like THEN... I'll have a new device that will have even more bells and whistles and this won't be an issue...
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why would you like to stay with un supported version of os ,as wp7 arrives developers will stop developing for wm6.5
ardsar said:
How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.
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+1 -CLASS ACTION? That is so laughable! End these threads please it just annoying to guess at everything. Wait for the MIX '10 and listen to then as to what they want to say. Until then no more threads about WP7 upgrades on HD2...wahh.wahhh.wahhh...
There goes another 2 minutes of my life. When will I learn....
HI . i am courious if anyone has any inside informaiton on the hd2 receiving more offical ROM updates . or have they already moved onto bigger and better things ?
Cheers
only time will tell us ,but i think no more updates soon
is this the shortest ever lived super phone...?, although im pretty happy with it still
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only time will tell us ,but i think no more updates soon
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I hope we get no updates soon, because looking at other HTC devices, I think HD2 has got only 1 chance of a big update and it shouldn't be wasted as 6.5.3. They will definetely release an update and the support called it Windows Mobile 7. I hope we get the better version (WP7S) and not the crappy Windows Phone Classic.
I really don't care, I haven't had an official rom on my HD2 since the HSPL was released and that wasn't going to change any time soon.
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I really don't care, I haven't had an official rom on my HD2 since the HSPL was released and that wasn't going to change any time soon.
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but remember porting wp7 will be much more harder than porting wm6.5 roms ( no backword comptability ,which means drivers and applications used to operate the device will not be exist (camera ,bluetooth , wifi , radio ,and more ) like the problems happening in porting android to other phones the mentiond apps doesnot work
Sorry, I should have made my viewpoint clearer. From what I have seen and heard of WM7, I'm not that bothered about it anyway. It looks like a step backwards to me, albeit one with lots of eye candy for those that don't look beneath the surface. Microsoft have seen Apple succeed with that viewpoint and want a slice of the action.
I can upgrade to a new phone in 11 months time, I will be happy for my HD2 to have the various cooks of 6.5.x until then.
Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Specs are good, but hardware requirements are not met by the HD2, now what does that mean, well it means that HTC did not look ahead, and used the wrong button configuration on the phone, so it is outside the spec of what MS says is required for WP7.
So yes we are Officially screwed out of WP7 because of the buttons on our phones .....
I doubt MS is going to change their requirements for the very few existing WinMo phones that have the CPU and RAM to handle WP7.
The hard resetting you have to do every couple weeks may have more to do with WinMo 6.5.x than the fact that it's a custom ROM. I'm sure we'll get near-stock WP7 ROMs that will function much better than what we currently have. Don't lament before we even have anything on that front.
I don't think wp7 will even be a viable option for most of us anyways (at least the initial release). Very locked down, sounds a lot like the first iphone. I'm hoping they update quickly and open it up (at least every 2-3 months), but I wouldn't hold my breath.
That is why I decided to take the plunge with the hd2. Figured it would be a couple of years before I was ready to jump on wp7. (though that 1.5ghz snapdragon htc sounds interesting and apparently is coming to t-mobile...)
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The hard resetting you have to do every couple weeks may have more to do with WinMo 6.5.x than the fact that it's a custom ROM. I'm sure we'll get near-stock WP7 ROMs that will function much better than what we currently have. Don't lament before we even have anything on that front.
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Ow is it? Cuz now I still work with my HTC Raph100 with those custom roms I talked about. I'm hoping to unbox my Leo begin this week.
So are the roms better now for the Leo?
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When I go to the offical windows mobile 7 home page..the first thing I see is the HTC Leo!!!
p.s. Sorry for the image size :$
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im still trying to work out why anyone would WANT wp7 on their hd2. itd be like putting Windows 1.0 on an Alienware pc. im sure there will be custom roms if you wanna have a glorified Instinct, but just cause something is new doesnt mean its better. why would you want to cripple this powerhouse phone with that dumbed-down software? doyou actually WANT to be able to do less with it???
im still trying to work out why anyone would WANT wp7 on their hd2. itd be like putting Windows 1.0 on an Alienware pc. im sure there will be custom roms if you wanna have a glorified Instinct, but just cause something is new doesnt mean its better. why would you want to cripple this powerhouse phone with that dumbed-down software? doyou actually WANT to be able to do less with it???
The reason I want to have It Is this:
I read that Windows Mobile 6.5 is based on all the old previous versions, based on CE blabla (I don't know It exactly anymore) so there Is alot of old junk that is not needed anymore.
The new Winmo 7 is totally new so therefore It should be allot faster then all the previous versions.
Please tell me If I'm wrong..
Greetz,
Fabian1985
For me, tinkering is fun, but that is not the main function of my work device. I want it to work, and work well. If that means giving up a couple features, features which I can live without, then I'll play ball. WP7 has been built from the ground up with a very different goal than Windows Mobile, which had the original goal of bringing the PC to a PDA format. I don't need that, and the functionality that is associated with that goal gets in the way of usability for my purposes. If your use cases do not match up with what WP7 is capable of, so be it, but know that the vast majority of customers aren't tinkerers and tweakers.
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The reason I want to have It Is this:
I read that Windows Mobile 6.5 is based on all the old previous versions, based on CE blabla (I don't know It exactly anymore) so there Is alot of old junk that is not needed anymore.
The new Winmo 7 is totally new so therefore It should be allot faster then all the previous versions.
Please tell me If I'm wrong..
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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"alot of old junk" in WM 6.5? Oh yes - like copy & paste, and proper multitasking? If you think that's junk, you'll love WP7.
iPhone OS v1 was rubbish. v4 finally has most of what you actually need and what WM has had for years. Same with Android - the first versions were severly lacking in many areas. Only now is it coming into it's own at v2.2.
Anyone should be able to see that since it's a completely new OS, WP7 will be equally as rubbish as the iPhone and Android offerings were at initial release.
yes, BUT WM still misses a lot of stuff such as gfx libs for better programs...
like ballmer says... they need to lure Developers Developers Developers somehow...
iPhone is #1 because of apps... WM is last only because of apps... and WM7 is taking sooo long because MS's management SUCKS... they seriously need to hire someone better to get thier mobile dept straightened... look at kin... what it could have been if only those devs were still part of wp7...
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yes, BUT WM still misses a lot of stuff such as gfx libs for better programs...
like ballmer says... they need to lure Developers Developers Developers somehow...
iPhone is #1 because of apps... WM is last only because of apps... and WM7 is taking sooo long because MS's management SUCKS... they seriously need to hire someone better to get thier mobile dept straightened... look at kin... what it could have been if only those devs were still part of wp7...
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They put in Terry Myerson a bit more than a year ago, but thanks anyways for the un-researched comment. He's been spearheading the reset efforts in WP7. Some like him, some don't. I'll reserve and judgment until WP7 is launched and tested in the market.
This is a stupid and pointless thread.
Fabian1985 said:
Why o why?
The specs are good, so why can't we all get offically the wm7 upgrade?
I know there will be custom roms but no offence to the developpers, they are all ****ty. Every custom rom I had I need to hard reset my device every two weeks so that won't be a option for me anymore.
MICROSOFT PLEASE DON'T BE STUPID!!!!
Why does windows mobile 7 not on the HD2?
Greetz,
Fabian1985
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Be patient and wait for WM Phone 7 to come out! Once it's out you / HD2 will get the chance.
Kalavere said:
This is a stupid and pointless thread.
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Well, yes it is now, did not start out that way, but a discussion is one thing ...
But when people have convinced themselves of something , and just want to argue the point it is no longer a discussion ...
1.) HD2 Specs are great, but HTC did not adhere to What MS has released as specs for WP7, so HTC screwed us out of an Official WP7.
2.) MS specs for WP7 were released(but not to the public) before the HD2 was , so MS is not inclined or obligated to change their specs to fit the HD2
3.) We actually have 1 too many buttons on the HD2 but None of them are the almighty "Search" button, so again the HD2 is outside the spec so no official WP7.
watcher64 said:
Well, yes it is now, did not start out that way, but a discussion is one thing ...
But when people have convinced themselves of something , and just want to argue the point it is no longer a discussion ...
1.) HD2 Specs are great, but HTC did not adhere to What MS has released as specs for WP7, so HTC screwed us out of an Official WP7.
2.) MS specs for WP7 were released(but not to the public) before the HD2 was , so MS is not inclined or obligated to change their specs to fit the HD2
3.) We actually have 1 too many buttons on the HD2 but None of them are the almighty "Search" button, so again the HD2 is outside the spec so no official WP7.
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Actually, the Euro version of the HD2 was released before the announcement of WP7. Still, I'm not sure if HTC was made aware of the requirements by the time they were already far along in the design of the HD2.
chuck232 said:
Actually, the Euro version of the HD2 was released before the announcement of WP7. Still, I'm not sure if HTC was made aware of the requirements by the time they were already far along in the design of the HD2.
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I had heard about the 3 button some time early last year, but you are right that may have been after the design and during the production phase of the HD2.
MS did not make an Official release of the specs till I think January of this year, I think that is when it was.
Either way , you can blame HTC, you can blame MS, but, it is true for any piece of technology, CPU's that keep changing sockets, Video Cards that keep changing standards, DVD/Blu-Ray standards the list goes, on ...
I mean providers are not going to change what they decide to to with regards to their specs and requirements just because people scream, I mean why can't I run Iphone OS on my HD2(not that I want to ), because it is not compatible, even though the HD2 out powers most Iphones, and just because Apple says NO.
I suggest, instead of getting all up in arms here, and bashing people for their views you contact MS and HTC and complain to them, not that it will get you anywhere, just as posting here is just gonna start a big discussion, but not fix it anyway.
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They put in Terry Myerson a bit more than a year ago, but thanks anyways for the un-researched comment. He's been spearheading the reset efforts in WP7. Some like him, some don't. I'll reserve and judgment until WP7 is launched and tested in the market.
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Yes, sorry I meant more like management a while ago... 1 year ago is still much after iPhone released... they should have done something like WP7 from the beginning and if management wasn't an issue, I doubt we would see two different teams for mobile in the first place: Kin and WP7... I do agree however, management is seeming much better now...
EDIT: also, for hardware keys, all we're missing is the search button... since wp7 will have windows button go to the tiles screen which is also the home, we can map the home screen to search (Kind of implying home page aka bing/search)? If they wanted MS could have easily added official support, but i am sure HTC influenced them to do that... since that would mean HD3 sales for them... ahh if only i were rich :-/...
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EDIT: also, for hardware keys, all we're missing is the search button... since wp7 will have windows button go to the tiles screen which is also the home, we can map the home screen to search (Kind of implying home page aka bing/search)? If they wanted MS could have easily added official support, but i am sure HTC influenced them to do that... since that would mean HD3 sales for them... ahh if only i were rich :-/...
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True, and I am sure some of the smart guys here will do just that for our custom WP7 ...