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Hi Guys
New to this and have to say what a forum but can anyone answer this little pain in the **** Q. Will we be able to update to wm6.5 or 7 as its making me think twice about getting my X1 when O2 finaly re stock. The last thing I need i a 18mth contract on a out of date phone........
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6.5 might but SE is known for not releasing updated OS's for their phones. You can probably get it with a cooked ROM. 7 will be a no-no, as it will mostly require an accelerometer in the phone.
I doubt you'll be able to upgrade to 7 if it needs multitouch screen, but can't see why 6.5 would be a problem unless that also needs it..
18months, wm7 might be released by then, but is it really likely?
looks like IE6 is a no go so I am realy starting to wonder if we will see a 6.5 update would i be better off with a HTC touch HD?
sonystu said:
looks like IE6 is a no go so I am realy starting to wonder if we will see a 6.5 update would i be better off with a HTC touch HD?
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Why is it?
theres an early build of IE6 out there, it needs to be cooked into a rom.
A couple of other older devices already have roms released with IE6 in them, the HD and the xperia have pretty much the same internals.
Looking to upgrade to Internet Explorer 6 Mobile (also known as Pocket Internet Explorer 6 or PIE 6) for Windows Mobile? Well, get a new handset! Microsoft is taking a stance that the new browser will require more advanced hardware according to Pocket PC Thoughts.
"Regarding making IE Mobile available as a separate download or update, the rich media experiences that IE Mobile 6 enables require more powerful, advanced devices. That is why it will not be available as an upgrade or direct download for current phones, but rather will be made available on new phones."
So there you have it. No separate installer, no IE 6 Mobile cab installer, and no "updates" pushed out through HTC, AT&T, Verizon, or whatever carrier you have. Microsoft and its partners want you to purchase new phones to support these new "rich media experiences" promised by the new browser.
Looks like some ROM cooking is going to be needed.........
sonystu said:
Looking to upgrade to Internet Explorer 6 Mobile (also known as Pocket Internet Explorer 6 or PIE 6) for Windows Mobile? Well, get a new handset! Microsoft is taking a stance that the new browser will require more advanced hardware according to Pocket PC Thoughts.
"Regarding making IE Mobile available as a separate download or update, the rich media experiences that IE Mobile 6 enables require more powerful, advanced devices. That is why it will not be available as an upgrade or direct download for current phones, but rather will be made available on new phones."
So there you have it. No separate installer, no IE 6 Mobile cab installer, and no "updates" pushed out through HTC, AT&T, Verizon, or whatever carrier you have. Microsoft and its partners want you to purchase new phones to support these new "rich media experiences" promised by the new browser.
Looks like some ROM cooking is going to be needed.........
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nothing new there, doesn't mean you need a new phone, just the usual MS drivel...
Michyprima has it working on the Athena, which is nearly 2 years old, so I can't see it being a problem on the X1 which is a lot more powerful.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411371
here's the discussion thread, there's some cabs linked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444882
Of course fennec will be out in (beta at least) soon, and if it works as well as it's fullblown sibling IE6 will become increasingly irrelevant.
Can some one help me out with understanding windows 7 mobile please?
how can it be multitouch?
i thought that apple had a patent that said they have the rights to a multi touch devices?
or is that just for a limited ammount of time?
why shouldnt the x1 be capable of multitouch too?
I think the real one to worry about is 6.5 as 7 looks like 2010 from what i can make out 7 needs a G sensor and the x1 has not got one.... I am starting to think this phone is out dated as it should have come out in feb...... As for the iphone well i dont think they have any rights to a screen.
An HP tablet with multi-touch was announced the other day so I don't think Apple have exclusive rights to it...
wm7 will come in many diffrent versions.
Ppl are claiming stuff in this thread that has no root in reality.
Here is a nice rule for daily use:
"Stop commenting about what you dont know"
cheers
I got my info from Pocket PC so dont take it as the hole truth but really the only question i have is will we see the 6.5 update as lets face it come wm7 sony will be on the x8 or 9 i work for a sony dealer in the uk and we still dont know......
sonystu said:
I got my info from Pocket PC so dont take it as the hole truth but really the only question i have is will we see the 6.5 update as lets face it come wm7 sony will be on the x8 or 9 i work for a sony dealer in the uk and we still dont know......
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what sony do or dont, or htc for all that matters..dont really bother me.
But wm6.5 and 7 will come for different devices with different specs. And when it comes to porting over...duh...Its always said that it cant be done...
cheers
as great devices with wm7 gets out wm8 will haunt in the mists making people think if it's a good idear to buy those wm7 devices or if they should wait for the wm8 ones
Rudegar said:
as great devices with wm7 gets out wm8 will haunt in the mists making people think if it's a good idear to buy those wm7 devices or if they should wait for the wm8 ones
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lol, thats true. Thats how it always will be
Is there any reason to believe WM7 would actually improve on what the X1 is already running anyway?
Granted WM6 was a HUGE improvement over WM5 on my Wizard. But you cannot assume that the improvements will always be that noticable.
ok i think we all have some good points and yep lets face it you have got to jump in some time. Really i think the guys are going to stick with this and when need will get a wm6.5 rom up and running. So on that note its back to the O2 web site hitting refresh all day every day until its back in stock!! Anything has got to be better than my old N95 as i have had it from day 1...........
Alex Atkin UK said:
Is there any reason to believe WM7 would actually improve on what the X1 is already running anyway?
Granted WM6 was a HUGE improvement over WM5 on my Wizard. But you cannot assume that the improvements will always be that noticable.
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Tons of reason..****, even 6.5 promises to be a massive improvement. WM6 was built for PDAs using a stylus. 6.5 is likely going to be a completely revamped UI along with bug fixes and likely better memory management which is another thing that is a problem with WM6. Basically 6.5 will see vast improvement for touch screen using fingers and there should no longer be a need for a stylus. WM7 will be beyond this and offer new ways to control your device. Multiple input support not only using an accelerometer, but potentially built in cameras etc. WM7 is poised to be a major advancement in the way you interact with your hand held device.
mlinz said:
Tons of reason..****, even 6.5 promises to be a massive improvement. WM6 was built for PDAs using a stylus. 6.5 is likely going to be a completely revamped UI along with bug fixes and likely better memory management which is another thing that is a problem with WM6. Basically 6.5 will see vast improvement for touch screen using fingers and there should no longer be a need for a stylus. WM7 will be beyond this and offer new ways to control your device. Multiple input support not only using an accelerometer, but potentially built in cameras etc. WM7 is poised to be a major advancement in the way you interact with your hand held device.
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Source? or speculation
Now that 6.5 is out of beta and officially released, i wonder how long it takes before a non beta cooked 6.5 version comes out.... really hoping for that one hehe
... do you, the devs of xda developers think it is feisable to run a WM 6.5 ROM at optimum performance on a Touch HD? Okay so we dont have the dedicated Windows Key, but surely we have the spec to run things such as the honeycomb
why ? Where told HTC to not suppport HTC Touch HD any further ?
hans
Did they? how silly of them.
dontworry key mapping is trivial
So, any links to back up that HTC won't release a updated rom?
link #1 - MS statement
"no devices in the market today will receive official 6.5 updates"
link #2 - HTC statement
"customers of the Touch Pro2 and Touch Diamond2 will get 6.5 upgrades for free"
So forget about official upgrade for out Blackstone..
So that means no WM6.5 with right updates for us huh?
No. To be honest, why should they? It's a major upgrade, and would cost HTC money to implement.
Bug fixes we are entitled to, not a new OS.
sorry to say
this has always been the same with WM.....
GET USED TO IT
Well I can't say that I'm particulary bothered about missing out on a free official upgrade to 6.5. From what I've seen so far Microsoft have just done what we've all be doing for some time now, that is making the OS more 'finger friendly'. I'm quite content with my HD now after installing some apps and tweaks to achieve this. Most from the pages of this wonderful forum.
And as for the honeycomb style today page.....they can keep it. Ugly!
To be honest why bother with 6.5 !!! Like all recent upgrades from MS it is just eye candy and nothing more...... Nothing radical or new just a knock off of the eye phone... The HTC Touch screen is more novel than MS....... Be nice if they innovated.....
Im not so bothered on the today section its the better finger menus i think will be good.
I think WM 6.5 looks great and IS A MUST for the Touch HD.
I also think it is absolutely customer ... off giving not wm 6.5 as a update - its ok to take money for it.
As you XDAlers always complain about apple - look at them - they improve the OS every 3 month and give new features and bug fiexes.
We with our nice HTC gadgets don-t get updates or new features.
I have my htc touch hd and love it, but the software is a hell of sloe any you can write as much as you want - WinMo 6.1 ist fuc... slow.
Take the G1 and see what the hardware is capable
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complain about apple - look at them - they improve the OS every 3 month and give new features and bug fiexes.
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They have to. OS X Mobile does not have proper Bluetooth support, multitasking support, MMS support, copy&paste support, etc., so most advanced user are really angry.
Windows Mobile, on the other hand, is mature OS. There is not much reason to upgrade from Win Mobile 6.1 to 6.5.
I've already talked with the manager of the distributor (father of a friend) here in my country before I bought the phone. They really said that they will not give updates to get the 6.5. but if xda-devs can make a rom out of it, it still wont be official. Hopefully MS solves the auto answer call when taking out the phone, i hate using s2u2 cuz there are sometimes delay and wastes a couple of rings (caller side)
Come on guys. 6.5 ? Honeycomb interface and that is about it, right ? Who cares since most of advanced users use 3rd-party UI anyway. It has FingerMenu version too and IE 6, but they are already here on HD
And since Diamond2/Pro2 will have 6.5 - HD will have it too. May be not officially, but ...
Listen ... I had HTC Wizard with WM5, which had never been officially upgraded. Did not stop me from have it with WM6.1 Pretty sure even Wizard will have 6.5, why not HD ? Dont worry about it.
is the ui all that 6.5 will bring? no additional backend features/settings?
Till yesterday i wanted WM6.5 in HD badly... actually, i still want it.
But now what i really really really want is the new TF3D
Jesus. Are only novice users writing here You want WinMo 6.5 Head over to the ROM section of THIS forum and you will get at least 2 WinMo 6.5 ROM's TODAY They are with early BETA versions of the OS, so you can see things others will MAYBE see in 7-8 months. That's the really cool thing about HTC devices. You always get the good stuff first
On the other hand...HTC actually offers WinMo ugrades for premium phones. Many WinMo 5 phones (including my old Artemis) got an official WinMo 6 upgrade and my Polaris recieved WinMo 6.1 as did the Kaiser, HTC Touch etc.
So stop complaining. The VERY first WimMo 6.5 ALPHA leaked for the...Blue Angel. For those not knowing this great device: The Blue Angel is shipped originaly with WinMo 2003 (not even SE) and is 5 years old.
Here see a Video people demonstrating WM 6.5
http://video.golem.de/handy/1860/windows-mobile-6.5-mobile-world-congress-2009.html
Its not so well performing, as I hoped, maybe it'll get better.
Finally, Microsoft's issued a clarification regarding upgrades from 6.1 to 6.5: devices that are already out in the marketplace with a minimum of 128MB of RAM and a 400MHz processor or better are theoretically capable of being upgraded -- it's all up to licensees to decide whether they want to go to the trouble of offering the upgrades to their customers. Let's hope, shall we?
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From:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/microsoft-announces-windows-marketplace-partners-tweaked-polici/
Haha, just read it two seconds before coming here Sounds good. I doubt SE will make WM 6.5 officially available for the X1 any time soon though, if ever
i have read that ms has put some condition for upgrading to windows 6.5.
the handset must have a dedicated windows start button....
http://gizmodo.com/5154217/all-windows-mobile-65-phones-to-feature-physical-start-button
so not for the xperia...
Tylwith said:
i have read that ms has put some condition for upgrading to windows 6.5.
the handset must have a dedicated windows start button....
http://gizmodo.com/5154217/all-windows-mobile-65-phones-to-feature-physical-start-button
so not for the xperia...
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There is one on the keyboard, don't know if that's enough
Tylwith said:
i have read that ms has put some condition for upgrading to windows 6.5.
the handset must have a dedicated windows start button....
http://gizmodo.com/5154217/all-windows-mobile-65-phones-to-feature-physical-start-button
so not for the xperia...
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Execpt the NEW article says that the Windows Key won't be needed (guessing you'll need a Home key like the Diamond though).
That said, still doubt SE will provide an official 6.5 release for the X1.
well its coming to diamond 2 so.. its basically coming to xperia (by xda ofc)
...if you open the keyboard the Windows start button is near the "q" button
...sorry for my bad english....
The requirement was for a Windows key on the front of the phone (keyboards didn't count I think) - but I read somewhere (maybe WMExperts or WMPoweruser) that this has been scrapped.
Now it's up to SE to provide an update - lets say it this way: if I was them I would as it's a flagship WM device (second only to Touch Pro 2).
Fingers crossed they do! (otherwise our masters on ROM development will certainly do!).
No they will not. The X2 is comming w/ 6.5... so why allow a new ROM upgrade on the X1's and take away from the sale of the X2's? Regardless of being a flagship device, and one we all spent a lot (Keyword: A LOT) of money on, their marketing mentality is that X1 owners are above average (living and income), so we'll be able to afford the 6.5 X2. If they give us 6.5 on X1, no one will purchase the X2... Maybe a few people for status symbols, but that is it. Plus folks, wait for winmo 7. Winmo 7 needs a 1ghz processor to run like the ZuneHD. We have a 528 iin our X1, and 6.5 only is a shell covering the same 6.1 software... so if you want the look of the ZuneHD, flash it to a ROM here on XDA and wait a year till winmo7, then splurge on a flying 1ghz htc or Sony. Just make sure your 1ghz is a tegra, not a qualcom. My buddy runs tests and tegras eat no power; qualcomms eat up power. Go Micro$oft for using tegra in the ZuneHD.
I went to Vodaphone today to give them my X1 for repair the dude there said and i quote:
"there will be an upgrage available to all wm phone users from wm 6.1 to wm 6.5 in december but as SE will want to customise it there may be a smal delay on the update through SEUS"
Hmm i would not want to hold out for this but if it happends im happy
Tylwith said:
i have read that ms has put some condition for upgrading to windows 6.5.
the handset must have a dedicated windows start button....
http://gizmodo.com/5154217/all-windows-mobile-65-phones-to-feature-physical-start-button
so not for the xperia...
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yess, thats tru but the xperia has a start button on the keyboard
since when the windows key info was official from microsoft? samsung omnia 2 and the omnia pro will be upgraded to 6.5...gizmodo are just gizmos
@jasand
Thanks for the post. Where did you find this? May you post a link? I believe upgrades are warranted within a series... For example, you purchase a 6.0 phone, you should be allowed 6.1, 6.5, 6.5.1, etc.
As for WinMo 7: No. That is like asking for Vista for free when you purchase XP. Please post a link and let us Xperia owners know!!
t.glans...
He quoted the guy who SAID this at the repair shop. There is no link for that.
Anyway. I would say they do because otherwise Sony Ericsson buyers see that SE won't upgrade their flagship devices.
What's the point in NOT upgrading our devices? I mean, someone who decides to buy X2 does not buy it because of it's WM 6.5...I like 6.5, don't get me wrong...but I'm waiting for WM 7.
t.glans, jasand never said he saw it online, it was spoken word directly to him, lets hope he is true, and SEUS feeds us with the goodies
Pretty much what the title says. Any speculation over whether we will get wm7 running?
we have so many fine chefs in the forum, i say YES to it.
i would say yes, but i am not quite sure, if i am sooo happy about it. i mean, i like wm6.5 and looove the BA, but even in wm6.1 and of course now in wm6.5 there are many things additional that many people want for their phones but the os alone can't help it, many things are only available for vga/wvga devices and even if we can make the ui better and make it look nice, a BA will never become the same as the "big" phones like touch diamond, touch hd...
you can do a lot with the device and even add a lot of features, that's what i always try to explain to my friends. the software features of a wm phone are basicly all the same, there is a lot of potential in each and every device, the things that really matter when buying a new device is the hardware specs: wlan, accelerometer... things you can't install afterwards.
in conclusion i would say wm7 will work o the BA, but i doubt that you can use the full experience, since the resolution of qvga might not be enough for most add-on apps, and without accelerometer, light sensor and other gimmicks, maybe some basic ui features might be missing.
i think this is going to be a very interesting thread, thx hardingt0110
Chef_Tony
Well i can not answer this yet, when WM7 is publically available and more developers have fixes for core and driver issues which will emerge with the new CE OS it may be remotely possible
But for now my answer is NO, we will not see WM7 in Blueangel, the new CE core will be incompatible, a BA ce core should be generated via platform builder and the blueangel BSP, also all drivers must be rewritten from scratch, and noone outside HTC and Microsoft have the BSP,and (i only talk for myself here) i do not have such development skills to do it
I think the answer is may be work,I dont understand the mechanism of the internal properties and small details of the BA hardware, but for long time they said there is no wm 5 for magician(i mate jam),before like a month a russian developer called cotulla made it and now the wm 6.1 runs at magician.
really we trust that BA developers will make it too.
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Well i can not answer this yet, when WM7 is publically available and more developers have fixes for core and driver issues which will emerge with the new CE OS it may be remotely possible
But for now my answer is NO, we will not see WM7 in Blueangel, the new CE core will be incompatible, a BA ce core should be generated via platform builder and the blueangel BSP, also all drivers must be rewritten from scratch, and noone outside HTC and Microsoft have the BSP,and (i only talk for myself here) i do not have such development skills to do it
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How many times have we gone over the same things? I believe that over the last 4 years, I have seen this post and thread (similar anyways) as many times as M$ has come up with/announced a new OS. Same reasons that xplode listed here too...
*different core
*drivers not the same
*hardware is different
and so on and so forth....
Have some faith people... our devices still pack a powerful punch and I don't think the world has seen the last flight of the Blue Angels just yet. So what if we can't tilt the device back and forth? Trust me, I have been using this acceleromenter feature on the Fuze and I am not that impressed. Besides, I am almost certain that something can be created to replace it. The only thing that I would not mind seeing would be multitouch screen, in which case, I would have to admit... we are screwed
Look at it this way guys, many of us have the SX66 variant of the BA, which means no camera. If we were able to get by without cameras for this long (that is for the ones that are still holding onto their dear BA's), I guess we can do away with a few things here and there...
Look into the future with sunglasses ladies and gents, it is gonna be a bright one
well the hardware may support WM7 but there is no software upgrade (core and drivers) for this hardware
take a look at alpine still have no upgrade from WM 2003 and it is powerful device
well in latest OS-es they al are based on CE5 (WM5 - CE5.1, WM6(including 6.1 and 6.5) - CE5.2) so the core is almost the same it was made run with few hex edits, and drivers are the same ones from WM5. For WM7 we now have new CE OS everything is difrend there.
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well the hardware may support WM7 but there is no software upgrade (core and drivers) for this hardware
take a look at alpine still have no upgrade from WM 2003 and it is powerful device
well in latest OS-es they al are based on CE5 (WM5 - CE5.1, WM6(including 6.1 and 6.5) - CE5.2) so the core is almost the same it was made run with few hex edits, and drivers are the same ones from WM5. For WM7 we now have new CE OS everything is difrend there.
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That's true, but I don't think the Alpine ever had too many "enthusiasts" or at least not as many as the Himalaya or the BA. You are right about the specs though... powerful indeed, but I guess since it came out around the birth of the BA, lots of people went for the extra added bulk of the keyboard. Long story short, if you don't have too many devs on it, there isn't much to do...
My two cents
Yeah you are right, but i just gave it as example
We have 6.5 now because we had WM5, but we will have WM7 only if there is such rom made in microsoft and leaked in the process
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Yeah you are right, but i just gave it as example
We have 6.5 now because we had WM5, but we will have WM7 only if there is such rom made in microsoft and leaked in the process
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Like that has never happened before ... I mean, I normally think of M$ as a humongous strainer or a really bad filter
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Like that has never happened before ... I mean, I normally think of M$ as a humongous strainer or a really bad filter
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Well from what I've seen and after working for some related companies, I really don't believe in such thing as a "leak", its done on purpose. Reasons? Free Advertising, creates expectation, free testing w/o risk to "the company", etc, etc, etc. Just look at it that way, and you'll understand me better
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Well i can not answer this yet, when WM7 is publically available and more developers have fixes for core and driver issues which will emerge with the new CE OS it may be remotely possible
But for now my answer is NO, we will not see WM7 in Blueangel, the new CE core will be incompatible, a BA ce core should be generated via platform builder and the blueangel BSP, also all drivers must be rewritten from scratch, and noone outside HTC and Microsoft have the BSP,and (i only talk for myself here) i do not have such development skills to do it
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xplode is just being modest here, sun_dream and helmi_c is probably smiling behind his back now
Even though WM7 may not be able to run on BA due to different core, drivers, etc, I do have faith and believe in developers!
When will WM7 be released... any ideas?
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When will WM7 be released... any ideas?
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I doubt anyone could answer you that, google for your answer.
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I doubt anyone could answer you that, google for your answer.
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Have googled many times, not one site can give a real answer, some report the last quarter or last year..lol. Perhaps one of the talented people here may have a better insight
noone can give definite answer to that because veen the people at MS are no sure yet, but suggested date is sometime autumn 2010
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noone can give definite answer to that because veen the people at MS are no sure yet, but suggested date is sometime autumn 2010
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Thanks Explode, was hoping that my phone upgrade in June might have been with WM7!! And thank you for all the hard work and advice you give us!!
Though I am a fan of Windows Mobile OS, but I still question why do we need new releases from M$? Have you seen any new features and considerable improvements since its release as WM 2003 in the year 2003? Answer is a clear NO, features offered in 2003 ans features offered now after 6 years are exactly the same. I am sure WM7 release will be a big disappointment too. WM6.5 is clearly showing lack of innovations and introduction of new features. Home screen of 6.5 is a big disappointment, today;s screen has made life more complex and omg introduction of honeycomb proved us that how simple interfaces could be made more complex, lock screen is buggy etc etc.
WM has been a leader in smart phones since long but why a newcomer like iPhone could easily push WM years behind the innovations. iPhone clearly proved that even though there are less features packed into it, but whatever is packed is reliable and very user friendly and thats what is appreciated by customers. We are still struggling to resolve wifi issues in wm. PIE or WMP can not stream popular YouTube videos. M2D offers much superior user interface though heavy on memory. I have yet to see a new innovative feature in WM. thats why I ask why do we need another version of WM. M$ team is just chasing features introduced by other players like touchFlo, touch zoom, multiple touches.. If next version of iPhone release in this June offers maps with text to speech directions, WM release will be pushed back by one more year. I am sure new version of iPhone will offer many more new features and I simply pity lack of innovations and leading innovations at M$ house. Chasing behind someone will never give a lead.
I wish M$ has hidden agenda for 6.5 as well for wm7 else I dont see any point in going for WM7 in the near future except if i want to say I have the latest windows mobile on my BA.
I think the topic of this thread should be changed to 'Will we ever need WM7?"
overall from WM5 to WM6.5 there are a lot under the hood improvements, but the UI was almost the same, this will change in WM7
well to answer your question i will say this (this is my personal opinion)
Yes i need constant change so yes i need the change to WM7, but if you as is it worth to upgrade to WM7 i can not answer yet and noone outside microsoft can at this moment
"...Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft's Entertainment and Devices Division, stated last week at the CTIA Wireless 2009 trade show, “We expect all the major operators to continue to support Windows phones going forward. In fact, by this fall, when Windows Mobile 6.5 releases, we'll have over 10 phones available in the U.S. alone, and you'll see that number continue to grow.”
Said line of Windows Mobile 6.5-supporting devices will include the HTC Touch Pro 2 and Touch Diamond 2, two handsets that have been announced since the MWC show in February, and there will also be the Elektrobit Satellite phone, which should come with the OS. In addition, a wide range of existing Windows Mobile 6.1 devices are also slated for upgrade to the upcoming platform, and among them we can count the HTC Touch Pro, the AT&T Fuze, and the HTC Touch Diamond.
For what it's worth, there will indeed be three new mobile phones released with the Windows Mobile 6.5 platform on them, yet it is uncertain whether more such phones will come out later this year, or the “ten phones” Robbie Bach mentioned also include the upgradeable ones. There are some companies that announced their support for Windows Mobile this year, such as HP or LG, but no details on upcoming devices from them made it into the wild yet..."
Full version here:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Mobile-6-5-Comes-on-Ten-Phones-in-2009-109155.shtml
My Opinion:
As we know Sony Ericsson was very dedicated to make X1 as a very high-end phone to compete with iPhone, Blackberry, and G1. And were trying to get the latest and best windows mobile software for Xperia as WinMo 6.5 was already in plans during development of X1 (rumors all around about this on web). But 6.5 was yet not ready by X1's release so they went with customized 6.1 instead. Now Windows Mobile will be coming out at end of 2nd or 3rd quarter of 2009 and matter of 6.5 on Xperia just depends on how much Sony Ericsson is dedicated to X1 and its "maintenance" phase (known as most expensive for companies) especially when last month Sony Ericsson were running into financial issues and almost considering a split between Sony and Ericsson. But the good news are 1st X1 is still SE's most recent high-end device, 2nd the new R3A software is still to come and since beginning of this month SE enters back the Korean market with new set of devices and one of them is specially customized Xperia X1 for Korea, so X1 will still be a freshly device there when Windows Mobile 6.5 comes out. So we'll see, who knows what to expect from Sony Ericsson at this point.
Well for most of XDA forum readers, it doesn't realy matter. I am using WM 6.5 Beta right now, wnd when the final version comes to ANY device on the planet you can be sure aswell, that it will be ported
Hell you can have WM 6.5 on 3 years old Tytn 2...
wow awesome - rly hope they do now ! since it was planned for win 6.5 in the first place!
CommanderThor said:
Well for most of XDA forum readers, it doesn't realy matter. I am using WM 6.5 Beta right now, wnd when the final version comes to ANY device on the planet you can be sure aswell, that it will be ported
Hell you can have WM 6.5 on 3 years old Tytn 2...
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Nice! But at the same time I'd love to have it officially. Reliable and supported by the company.
doministry said:
Nice! But at the same time I'd love to have it officially. Reliable and supported by the company.
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Yeah, I would also love an official 6.5 rom instead of a custom Rom.
I don't say the custom roms are bad, far from it :-D
But i prefer official stuff frpm the company too..
So R4A would be 6.5 update?
Anyway, nice to hear this news
I am currently on Itje's 6.5 ROM and it works great but i would also prefer an official release and support from Sony Ericsson for Windows Mobile 6.5.
its gona cost sony a fortune to upgrade to 6.5 on xperia,**** loads of licensing deals and tons of money wasting
whats going hapen is that we are going to get a very good custom 6.5,and sony will launch x2 with 6.5 or something, no way in hell they are going to give us free 6.5 upgrade,but thats what i think,lets hope for some good news
It depends...
jibran said:
its gona cost sony a fortune to upgrade to 6.5 on xperia,**** loads of licensing deals and tons of money wasting
whats going hapen is that we are going to get a very good custom 6.5,and sony will launch x2 with 6.5 or something, no way in hell they are going to give us free 6.5 upgrade,but thats what i think,lets hope for some good news
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I would have agreed with you as your theory is very valid, but don't you remember that during the X1's development Sony Ericsson there was a multiple information leak about Xperia having WM 6.5 but wasn't developed fast enough for X1's release, so my suspicion is that SE could have already purchased Windows Mobile 6.5 software for X1's back then, but no one knows as there is not enough information. I mean, after all were are definitely gonna get a ported WM 6.5 no matter what, but hey! I wouldn't mind an official build 6.5 straight from Sony Ericsson
It would be nice to have wm6.5 but i would prefer wm7. My X1 would be in trash in after 1 or 2 years anyway.
htainlin said:
It would be nice to have wm6.5 but i would prefer wm7. My X1 would be in trash in after 1 or 2 years anyway.
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Good Point...
WinMo 6.5 on Xperia is very possible ???
I disagree:
WinMo 6.5 on Xperia is NOT "very possible": is a REALITY
Go to the ROM development subforum and check for your self
Keep checking every day and be preapred for even more big surprises soon
This is xda-devs
Can you specify what excatly u meant? tnx
gtrab said:
I disagree:
WinMo 6.5 on Xperia is NOT "very possible": is a REALITY
Go to the ROM development subforum and check for your self
Keep checking every day and be preapred for even more big surprises soon
This is xda-devs
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I just want to clear whether information you referred to was about upcoming "cooked WM 6.5 that is ported to X1 from HTC's" or you really meant the official release from Sony Ericsson?
The 2005 PDA only device ran Windows Mobile 5 but it has been upgraded to 6.1. So that shows alotta things is possible.