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HTC Kaiser Skins - InvisibleSHIELD, Body Guardz, etc...

I am thinking of getting a case to protect my Kaiser...
What do you guys think of this HTC Kaiser Body Guardz:
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42272.html
I know it is transparent, but it is not clear if it will protect it from falls, etc...I doubt it...
/MN

weird ...
every other variations of the Kaiser ( TYTN II/8925/TILT/Vario III )is out of stock except for the "TILT" is available for ordering ...
http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-42589.html
must be vendor error or NOT YET AVAILABLE ( should all be same ... except for the single camera model ) ... I would email & ask ... I think this is just website putting it up way before the device came out ... ( roughly within the last 2 weeks, if you covering all the variations coming to be reality. )
curious ... on one of the demo video ... they had the iPhone protected right over that touchscreen ... I got to thinking ...
if their measurement are top notch ... hopefully the one for the Kaiser does the covering for the screen too !!
we can skip the screen protector altogether ( its thickness replacing the screen protector's thickness ) ... LOL
those thing dries to an invisible result !! COOL stuffs ... I'll be ordering one for sure .. plus I'll get a cool case as well. ( because the guardz is mainly for nick & scratches ... not dropping.
The bodyguardz is because my Kaiser deserved the spoiling ... hahahah

this is weird indeed... I just checked a moment - it doesn't update the stock status until you get into the cart...I will shoot them an email?
what non-magnetic flip case would you recommend?
rgds, MN

I like that the back of the Kaiser is "slightly rubberized" it keeps it from slipping around like the old Hermes did. Does this cover feel the same way? I probably wouldn't go for it either way, but, if it is slippery, it takes away a nice feature IMO.

liking the look of the bodyguard thingey! is it tough/ - ie drop proof?

I put something like this on my wife's iPhone and it works great. Well worth the investment and it really cuts down on the fingerprint smudges (the iPhone is flat out impossible to keep smudge free). I used this skin and bought one of the thin ruberized cases, and my 14 month old daughter has knocked it off tables on several occassions with not a scatch or even a blip of the screen. I have to admit for all it's lack of features, that thing is TOUGH and makes a great device for my wife. I also like the peace of mind that the thing can get thrown around her purse to her hearts content right beside that massive key ring and all I have to do is peel that thing off and it will look like new.
I wonder how well it would suit the Kaiser though since it has more moving parts. On the two occasions my daughter has knocked my 8125 off the coffee table, I have cringed. No damage, but on one occasion the battery door got knocked off, thus forcing a soft reset. Even with one of these covers, I am thinking the sliding keyboard and pop off battery cover will make it more prone to injury, even when it is in a decent case.
Bottom line, I'll be making sure my Kaiser is out of reach!!

i've been watching that site for 3 weeks now waiting for them to get the skins in stock. well, my order went through without a problem

give us a feedback when u get it dude

traveling on business all week, but will follow up when i return next weekend.

jgermuga said:
I put something like this on my wife's iPhone and it works great. Well worth the investment and it really cuts down on the fingerprint smudges (the iPhone is flat out impossible to keep smudge free). I used this skin and bought one of the thin ruberized cases, and my 14 month old daughter has knocked it off tables on several occassions with not a scatch or even a blip of the screen. I have to admit for all it's lack of features, that thing is TOUGH and makes a great device for my wife. I also like the peace of mind that the thing can get thrown around her purse to her hearts content right beside that massive key ring and all I have to do is peel that thing off and it will look like new.
I wonder how well it would suit the Kaiser though since it has more moving parts. On the two occasions my daughter has knocked my 8125 off the coffee table, I have cringed. No damage, but on one occasion the battery door got knocked off, thus forcing a soft reset. Even with one of these covers, I am thinking the sliding keyboard and pop off battery cover will make it more prone to injury, even when it is in a decent case.
Bottom line, I'll be making sure my Kaiser is out of reach!!
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As i've mentioned earlier about the iPhone howto video ...
Could you tell me how good the touch sensitive screen reponses when it have the "bodyguardz" covered ??
note: ... only certain kit(s) goes this way of "covering the whole screen" ... if it works well ... I hope the TyTN II kit do the same ...
thickness is similar to a screen protection I guess ... there's one video for the MACBOOK and it does the "covering of the mouse's touchpad" as well ... so I guess it works really well then.
YOUTUBE howto vids ... all sorts
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bodyguardz&search=Search
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ok guys (and any girls) i just applied the BodyGuardz to my Kaiser and took a few pics before hitting the road... I've included 10 pics in the attached zip file. they're not the best pics, but hopefully they give you some perspective on fit, look, etc. keep in mind that it takes 24 hours for the bubbles to disappear. the pics were taken about 3 hours after application so you'll see some bubbles here and there. by the way, you get 2 sets of skins and 3 screen protectors with the kit. each set includes a skin for the left and right sides, one for the top, one for the back and one for the front. the left side skin also covers the bottom of the phone. so far I'm pleased. i like the somewhat tacky-feel and now i know my phone will be protected from scratches when in my pocket. overall this is a pretty good value.

InvisibleSHIELD
Would anyone else be likely to purchase a screen and phone body protective case from ShieldZone if they have one available?
I have used these on many of my gadgets and they are the best around (IMHO)
I just emailed them to see if one is in the works and will post back with their reply when I recieve it.

Park City said:
Would anyone else be likely to purchase a screen and phone body protective case from ShieldZone if they have one available?
I have used these on many of my gadgets and they are the best around (IMHO)
I just emailed them to see if one is in the works and will post back with their reply when I recieve it.
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I too think they make the best protection for our devices. I've used them on my previous Wizard and Hermes and loved them. The problem I see with putting them on the Kaiser/Tilt is that there's really not much real estate to cover. There's the screen (of course), but that's about it. I personally wouldn't want to cover the back because I like the grip I can get from it. The sides are "ridged", and can't be covered. And the rest of the face is just too small to cover.
But they're really good about making custom shields if you bring in your device to them and it's only like $10 more than their usual charge. But once they make a template, no more custom build fees.

I bought the invisibleshield for my 8125 many years ago. It was a big waste of money. I hated it.

i too had reservations about using a "skin" to protect my Kaiser. i just recently applied the BodyGuardz to my device and as of know, i think i'll continue to use them. this is a link to some pictures (some good, some not so good) in case anyone's interested to see how it turn out.

i had this for my wizard. I love how friendly customer service was. If for some reason, you screw up your cover, which is pretty hard to do, then you can ask them to ship you another one paying for shipping as long as you register.
Only complaint is that it's a little too thick. Didn't feel good with the stylus. But at least I was confident that my screen wasn't going to get damaged.

bloody hell i can hardly see it!
it looks so thin!
are you sure it will protect it?

little_rock said:
bloody hell i can hardly see it!
it looks so thin!
are you sure it will protect it?
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yes, it's thin and it covers a significant portion of the device. durability is good at the moment...time will tell how well it protects the device.

Does anyone now if there will be any traces left when you remove the "bodyguardz"?

Corinna said:
Does anyone now if there will be any traces left when you remove the "bodyguardz"?
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I am pretty sure it will unless it covers 100% of the back. I kept my protection film on the battery cover for 2 days of use, when i took it off, there was a very noticeable trace from where it was.

Kaiser hard case? (That covers screen and buttons)

Anyone know of a hard case for the kaiser that covers everything? I do *not* need to be able to see the screen or press any buttons while it is in the case, I want something *tough* to put it inside that will fit in my pocket and take knocks.
UK please...

I'm using a Pdair Aluminum Metal Case
They do free postage to anywhere and are sent from Hong Kong. I've bought many products over the years from them and are very well packaged/presented.
Edit: I just noticed you said UK. I've had the products sent to both New Zealand and Taiwan with free postage and takes around a week.

http://www.cases.com/eltytn2h.htm
I got this case about a week ago and am loving it. I like the pockets for storing microsd cards. The "credit card" pockets aren't wide enough for anything but paper. There's a pocket beneath those pockets to keep my swipe card for easy accessibility. There's a hard insert in the leather so it's very stiff and will not touch the screen. It was tight on the tilt for a day or two until the leather loosened up. No belt clip option on it which is what I was looking for. open access to plug, buttons, camera, and everything.
Just noticed they are on backorder.

nope, I am looking for a rigid plastic pocket - open at one end as splitting down the middle makes it weak. I am looking to do off-road downhill sports with the kaiser running memory map (see sig) in my pocket. Something that, should I take a fall, the kaiser will have a reasonable chance of survival. Leather pouches, protective fascias and the like just aint gonna cut it.

I am looking for something like this too, but I am in the US.

http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=896
Best case ever made imo it doesnt need removing either when you need to use the keyboard although it doesnt protect the screen, I use an additional screen cover for that protects against damage.

For the seido, from post #6, that case does neither cover the buttons nor the screen.
thanks though

If you're looking for a severe duty case, these guys are highly recommended and service customers globally.
http://www.pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=i1010

My coworker gave me his Pal Treo case where he had his Tilt in.
Fits in my pocket too.
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more pics of it here:
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That Palm case is slick, but I don't think it'll handle the extended batteries.

If i file the raised groove that makes the tilt/treo fit snug, i think it can clear about 2mm more room. dont know how much thicker the bigger battery can get.

i picked up one of these ebay specials http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350037529875&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=022 covers the screen but not the buttons. for the price i'm not complaining.

+1 to the peli case suggestion. I do already own a peli case (In fact that's the "Camera case" I mentioned in one of my earlier posts) but I don't think they really do one in a suitable size / weight - their cases are maybe *too* over-engineered to put in a pocket. I did notice a page on their site where you could submit the inner dimensions you want in a box so I popped in the kaisers vital statistics (plus a bit of depth to allow for an ext battery) - let's see what they come back with.
Would not think twice about buying peli again, absolutely top notch quality.

evilc said:
+1 to the peli case suggestion. I do already own a peli case (In fact that's the "Camera case" I mentioned in one of my earlier posts) but I don't think they really do one in a suitable size / weight - their cases are maybe *too* over-engineered to put in a pocket. I did notice a page on their site where you could submit the inner dimensions you want in a box so I popped in the kaisers vital statistics (plus a bit of depth to allow for an ext battery) - let's see what they come back with.
Would not think twice about buying peli again, absolutely top notch quality.
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If you need a second buyer for one of these count me in. Their standard cases are just a bit big. Same with the Otterbox cases. I am looking for something that looks like the Palm case above but has the ruggedness of a Pelican or Otterbox.

I am looking for something similar. I would like to attach my TyTN II to my bike. Standard bike mounts (such as http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11492 ) are not an option for me, since they don't protect a PDA a little bit.
I have in mind something similar to Just Mobile Rugged Case ( http://www.just-mobileonline.com/products_protectionseries_4.html ) but they make it for HTC Prophet only (although dimensions are not very different).
I was looking at the Otterbox as well, but they are huge, ugly and expensive (shipping to Slovakia would cost twice as much as the case itself!).
Pelican looks good but I want a case that would fit my PDA well (is suited for it).
Yesterday I have ordered PDair aluminium case ( http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561 ), will post here as soon as I recieve it, if it's strong and protective enough.

omikr0n said:
I am looking for something similar. I would like to attach my TyTN II to my bike. Standard bike mounts (such as http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11492 ) are not an option for me, since they don't protect a PDA a little bit.
I have in mind something similar to Just Mobile Rugged Case ( http://www.just-mobileonline.com/products_protectionseries_4.html ) but they make it for HTC Prophet only (although dimensions are not very different).
I was looking at the Otterbox as well, but they are huge, ugly and expensive (shipping to Slovakia would cost twice as much as the case itself!).
Pelican looks good but I want a case that would fit my PDA well (is suited for it).
Yesterday I have ordered PDair aluminium case ( http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561 ), will post here as soon as I recieve it, if it's strong and protective enough.
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Looks like we both have the same needs in a phone protector. If you don't mind after using it for a while commenting on whether your phone reception/signal strength/gps is altered by the metal case.
Thanks,
Jeff

Pelican Cases For Tilts - Overkill - Yes
It's like killing a fly with a .357 magnum.
Until Pelican goes from, "Tell us the interior dimensions you'd like to have and we'll let our engineers know!" to "Tell us the interior dimensions you'd like to have and we'll MAKE IT FOR YOU", I'll keep on looking. Pelican cases are GREAT, no doubt. But, from a practical standpoint, I can't see how you would implement a reasonable and acceptable convenient access/storage of your phone with these Pelican Cases. I own several, but I use mine to store things like My Surefires, other sensitive gadgets, important external portable hard drives, my telescope and astrological bino filters, etc. For things like these, you can't beat Pelican. But, for in and out continual use, it would get real old real quick, whipping out the Pelican case to get your phone before you miss the call. Plus, I have broken a few nails just opening them up in a hurry. Not that matters to men, but for me, it’s a *****.
The Treo, from the photos, looks most conducive to housing the Tilt, but not with the extended battery in place and I agree, a little shaving off the Treo case and it'll probably work. I am using a treo leather case with a single snap over the top. I have a screen protector on and a big ass extended battery. I have the hard rubber case, but the back plate will not work with the extended battery in place so it sits in my drawer. Too bad too because even with the camera hole on the front, the face plate would've hidden the at&t logo in the upper right of the casing. Leaving it on by itself looks silly. Bummer.
Anyway, I just wanted to give you my perspective since I have Pelicans and know their capabilities and at the same time recognize their limitations in terms of storing this or that.
~ Gwen

SkunkyGwen said:
It's like killing a fly with a .357 magnum.
Until Pelican goes from, "Tell us the interior dimensions you'd like to have and we'll let our engineers know!" to "Tell us the interior dimensions you'd like to have and we'll MAKE IT FOR YOU", I'll keep on looking. Pelican cases are GREAT, no doubt. But, from a practical standpoint, I can't see how you would implement a reasonable and acceptable convenient access/storage of your phone with these Pelican Cases. I own several, but I use mine to store things like My Surefires, other sensitive gadgets, important external portable hard drives, my telescope and astrological bino filters, etc. For things like these, you can't beat Pelican. But, for in and out continual use, it would get real old real quick, whipping out the Pelican case to get your phone before you miss the call. Plus, I have broken a few nails just opening them up in a hurry. Not that matters to men, but for me, it’s a *****.
The Treo, from the photos, looks most conducive to housing the Tilt, but not with the extended battery in place and I agree, a little shaving off the Treo case and it'll probably work. I am using a treo leather case with a single snap over the top. I have a screen protector on and a big ass extended battery. I have the hard rubber case, but the back plate will not work with the extended battery in place so it sits in my drawer. Too bad too because even with the camera hole on the front, the face plate would've hidden the at&t logo in the upper right of the casing. Leaving it on by itself looks silly. Bummer.
Anyway, I just wanted to give you my perspective since I have Pelicans and know their capabilities and at the same time recognize their limitations in terms of storing this or that.
~ Gwen
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is your "hard rubber case" the Seidio one? If so do you want to sell it?
Jeff

I use the pelican cases a little differently. I place a RAM mount ball on it so that I can carry the phone in a watertight compartment on my motorcycle/bicycle/atv etc.

I have been thinking lately that I may just make one myself with the polymorph stuff I used in my brodit passive to active car mount mod
Would probably involve puttting the phone in a bag like I did in the cradle mod and wrapping it in polymorph. I am a little concerned that if I did it, it would mould a little too well to the phone and I wouldn't be able to get it out. I suppose I could fill in the screen area with cardboard or something and tape a ridge of material on each side (where the buttons are to ensure there is a groove in the case to stop it pushing the side buttons and roller) before putting it in the bag.
I am thinking an open ended "cup" with a hole in the bottom of the cup so you can push the phone out with your finger. I think if i did it so it went in with the USB towards the bottom of the cup, the hips near the bottom of the kaiser would hold it in place until it was pushed out by putting your finger through the bottom.

Case Review?

Would anyone actaully be interested in reading a user generated review of cases for the TP? I'm a case freak; always trying to find the best one. Now I have cases from the following:
Proporta ALU-Leather
Krussell Orbit Multidapt
PDair Aluminum
PDair Leather
Noreve is on the way.
If I get a couple of positive replys I'll do it and if negative then why bother?

I would be interested in reading a user generated review of cases for the TP

I believe most, if not all, of the present Touch Pro user would like to hear a "first hand" review of these cases mentioned.

Case Review
I would certainly love to read case reviews. I've already blown £20. on a Krusell Flex case for my TP which is not only unusable, but damaging to the slide mechanism. Please review away...

I myself also love to hear what you gotta say about the one from Noreve.

The Noreve Case is in mine opinion the best. I did not tested the hardcase (waiting for DHL). Some pics of the Noreve :
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I would also like to see a case review! I will link to it on my website:
http://www.fuzemobility.com

I am going to take some pictures this weekend and try and make up a word file that I can upload. But let me just say this. Today I recieved the Noreve case for the TP. I am impressed. In a nutshell, (no pun intended) I'd say the following:
1. Noreve: The case holds the device via tabs that snap around the edges of the front of the case, but allow easy sliding of the front off the keyboard. With the TP OPEN, the pressure of the tabs on the keyboard area keeps the back of the device securely agains the back of the case. In addition on the Krussell, the PDair and the Proporta, the keyboard is held in place by a plastic sleeve that the keyboard slides into. The plastic sleeve may hold the thing quite securely, but the shiny plastic makes seeing the keys more difficult in my opinon. The case is smart looking with 2 tabs for microSD cards in the front cover. I imagine with a little imagination one could put a little cut between these and it would then hold a seperate SIM card. The flap that holds the case shut has a strudy snap that snaps over the BACK of the case so if the device is ON, you are not hitting the screen and possibly activating some program or dialing some phone number when you snap it shut. The ONLY drawback to the Noreve case and I feel this is easily worked around is that the snap closure and the button that goes on the belt clip are in front of each other so when you go to remove the device from the clip there is risk of unsnapping the snap...not a big deal really. You can easily turn the device to one side to remove it from the belt clip and not have the snap come open. The Noreve case feels like real leather. It smells like real leather and it is nicely padded. I opened it up just now and holding onto the flap that covers the device, shook the thing back and forth(over some pillows I might add) and the device makes no attempt to come out of the little tabs holding it to the back of the case. While the Noreve case does not have a seperate opening for the speaker on the back of the device, the speaker is VERY close to the camera area for which there IS an exact cut out that matches the diamond shaped area on the back of the TP. I cannot really hear a difference in ring sound quality in the case or out of the case. Thre is a small hole on one of the bottom tabs that holds the device so it is easy to do a soft reset. In addition, the leather tab that sepertes the front cover from the back cover is very soft and pliable so you can simply turn the thing to the back and hold the phone comfortably during a call. The Noeve case makes accessing the stylus quite easy.
2. PDair aluminum case. In the past I have liked these kinds of cases. However for the TP the aluminum case is the absolute pits. First it does not do anything when open to secure the TP device. The TP simply fits in the enclosure without any means of keeping the device secure. It is hard to use with the cover open. I think my pictures will make the review more meaningful, but I do not like the PDair aluminum case. With the case snapped closed the device is fairly secure, but since there is nothing to keep the device from falling out, if dropped I suspect the device would go flying. In addition I would stronly advice AGAINST this case since I am pretty sure it damaged the side of the device and now it is hard to pull the stylus out. I generally carry and PEN/Stylus combo so it is not a big deal to me and the TP stylus is too small for my liking anyway, but still, what a drag.
3. PDair leather flip type case. The snap is too weak to be functional. The flap the snap is on is too short to really comfortably go around the end of the device so it is hard to close it without having something on the touch screen activated.
4. Krussell Orbit Multidapt. I was VERY excited to see a Krussell case available for the TP. The snap has an intelligent location in that it goes over the top of the case and snaps in the back so theoretically one would not activate a program by pulling it over. There is plenty of "give" in the way the case fits over the device also, but the PROBLEM is that the snap is totally WORTHLESS since it is TOO weak to keep closed. I thought I had a great case in the Krussell, but anytime you MOVE the thing comes unsnapped and you have your screen potentially bumping into whatvever you come in contact with. Again, I think some pictures will help to illustrate this much better.
The Krussell does have 2 nice features, but they do not make up for the problem of the snap. One is that there is a small mesh window over the speaker and the other is that the front of the case does slide off via a little plastic male/female connector so theoretically you could mount it on a dashboard for instance without the case flapping in the breeze.
5. Proporta flip type case. A nice case and one that is useful, but the snap in this case comes around from behind at the bottom of the TP and snaps in the front. It therefore thends to get caught on whatever you are sitting near or walking past and comes unsnapped. It does not have a hole for the soft reset switch so you have to partially take it out of the case to do a soft reset.
In summary, while I think my review with pictures will be more useful, if you got to order a case for the Touch Pro, go with the Noreve case. They ship from California so I ordered mine on a Monday and got it in Houston on a Friday. Of the 6 cases I have got, the Noreve is the only one that seems to have been designed with the TP in mind. All the others were poorly executed in their design.
Why listen to me? No special reason really. I am not affiliated with any of the above case makers. My first PDA was a Casio E200 and then I have had IPAQ 6315, QTEK TyTn type, ETEN g500+ and most recently ETEN x500+. Curiously the Noreve case for the x500 was also a grand and useful case.

Thanks a lot for your review, I was about to order the Proporta but changed my mind for Norêve after reading this.

Where did you buy it from?

Thanks for the reveiws. Ido appreciate the info, so I hope you don't mind if I add a bit. I've always used and swore by Krusell cases, but the one for the TP is poorly designed. The Flex cover is loose fitting and the plastic over the keyboard is horrible. One of the things I love on the TP is the smooth open and close of the keyboard. Not only is that gone with the Krusell case, but I'm sure that in time it would loosen the mechanism.
I just received the PDair aluminium case and I'm afraid I disagree, I like it. It fits snugly into the neoprene inside and the cover closes tightly. Using the keyboard is a pleasure as there is no plastic over it. It protects almost all of the phone, yet I can answer a call and see (and hear)whose calling me without unsnapping anything. I was even able to order a windscreen mount for my car, so I can use the gps and view the screen without removing it from the case or having a flap hanging down. It only makes the device slightly larger, and it looks good.

11 13 2008 Update: Well, as I said, I am a case freak. The Great Escape came on last weekend late one night where the dude at the end escapes those nasty nazi's and finds himself in "Espana" so I thought well, feeling kindly towards Espana, I will go ahead and get the Piel Frama case for the Pro.....
Well no habla espanol...yeah yeah, that's Mexico not Spain, but my new fave case is the Piel Frama case. I got the tan leather one.
First of all the packaging is a pleausre to start with. PF packages their cases in this nice little tan and brown cardboard box with a nice little instruction paper and extra belt clip button and belt clip.
The device is held in place by virtue of a plastic sleeve the keyboard slides in to. This does potentially offer the same problem that some of the other cases offer in that in a shiny light environment, three is some reflection off the plastic, but it may be a worthwhile trade off. The lower edge includes a cut out for the mini USB port and the reset "button" hole. Because the TP power button is on the top "screen" portion of the device it is easily exposed.
The leather is wonderful quality, soft and supple and smells wonderful.
The cover comes around the right hand side of the device and while I really liked the way the Noreve case did this, the PF case outshines the Noreve case in that there is approximaely 2 mm more leather on the side panel. That 2 or 3 mm makes all the difference in that the covering flap then MUCH more easily covers the front of the TP.
The snap is on the back of the device, is a secure and tight closing snap. The screen on the TP is quite sensitive and I do not think there is any way to cover it while the device is on without potentially hitting the device and having something "come on" like the program tab on TF3D, but that is, I guess one of the trade offs for having a TP. (As an aside, I'm not quite as happy with my TP anymore in part because the GPS just does not work very well, but I do like the memory it contains and apart from the GPS it is a great pocket pc)
The "button" that slides into the belt clip is of a standard size and if you lose or break the PF belt clip, I am absolutely certain the generic belt clips you can pick up at some mom and pop cell phone kiosk at the mall will be an adequate replacement.
On the back of the case there is a "pill" shaped opening that reveals the camera lens and that stupid and woefully inadequate flash light. See elsewhere on this forum for the "torchbutton" application that allows you to use your device as your most expensvie flashlight...great for not waking up your wife at night when you go to bed...hahaha. Beside the camera opening is a mesh covered opening for the speaker.
On the front flap of the cover is a nicly stiched extra peice of leather that makes it look a bit like the pocket on a nice man's shirt. That is a nice touch. The PF case is the most expensive of the lot, but the quality of craftsmanship does stand out. In addition I suspect it is the only one of the lot that is truly made by hand by the manufacturer.
Overall I am inclined to think the Piel Frama case is an excellent case for the Touch Pro.
So in summary I would rate these cases in the following fashion:
1. Piel Frama: Only "minor" drawback is the shiny plastic covering the keyboard...perhaps a small tradeoff as it may also help protect against moisture. I don't think of my case freakiness as a fashion thing, but the PF cases are, well, quite fashionable. For fit and finish PF gets an A +++. For quality of construction PF gets and A+++ and for I suspect long term satisfaction I'd also give PF high marks. There is also just a tiny bit more leather all the way around which I think would offer a bit more protection if the thing were to take a tumble. The PF is the most expensive of the lot and for this reviewer I'd say truly worth it. They also ship world wide UPS. I ordered it late Monday evening and did not ask for any special shipping and I had it Thursday so they include good quality shipping in the price. Not a bad deal really.
2. Noreve: Almost identical to the Piel Frama except that it does not have the plastic at all, and the PF case seems to stay snapped better with taking it on and off one's belt clip. The PF beats it in that there is a bit more leather on the side peice so when you go to close it you don't have to tug it over. I see that the snap on the back of the Noreve is now pulled up taught against the leather which could lead to failure. That is not as likely to happen on the PF case.
3. Proporta: Might be preferred if you like your case to hang vertical v. horizontal on your belt, and includes my complaint that the snap while quite secure, does tend to bump into things and come unsnapped. The Proporta TP screen protector they sell is well worth a look. I've had the stylus up against the thing quite a bit playing solitaire and that silly break out game...can't think of the name and it is not pitted or overly sratched.
4. Krussell: A beautifully finshed case that also hangs vertical, but the snap closure is just almost nonexistant. If it were not for that lousy snap I'd really like the Krussell case. I'm going to try and find a fabric store and see if maybe they carry a snap that could be attached to this devcie. Probably do have such a snap, but I bet the leather would be totally torn up in the process of doing this. Krussell...shame on you for screwing up this way...I love your products, but this one stinks.
5. PDair cases.....The least expensive of the lot and for good reason. Don't waste your bucks, or diners, or pesos, or rubbles or marks or euros.
One final thought. It is the problem of the keyboard that makes any case for the Rafael be a problem. Sliding it into a plastic sleeve is probably the best way to hold the device, but the little tabs on the Noreve case do a fine job of holding it as well.
Dear reader: Your milage may vary. I take no responsibility for your pocket book, your device or your life.

Thanks for the reviews! Question, on the Piel Frama, are you typing on the slide out keyboard through a plastic sleeve? If so, are any of the others you reviewed the same?
I've always used a Pocket Solution case for my Tilt, and was just about to buy one for the Fuze when I came across your reviews.

Well I just got my Noreve case and to be honest, its better than I expected. I've gone against ones that cover the keyboard since of the 4 I've seen, all now have some play between the screen and keyboard, i.e. where the clear plastic goes.
With this case, no worries. Was very surprised at its grip of the phone despite not needing any effort to put it in. I do wish it had more leather round the edges. Belt clip is ok. Solid(ish). I don't like not having the ability to rotate it in the belt clip. My clip will maintain the angle in which you put it in, which is great except I can't put it in parallel to my belt as the case latch gets in the way. Apart from that, it feels good and well worth it. Mines was direct from Noreve. Well I just got my Noreve case and to be honest, its better than I expected. I've gone against ones that cover the keyboard since of the 4 I've seen, all now have some play between the screen and and keyboard, ie. where the clear plastic goes.
With this case, no worries. Was very surprised at its grip of the phone despite not needing any effort to put it in. I do wish it had more leather round the edges. Belt clip is ok. Solid(ish). I don't like not having the ability to rotate it in the belt clip. My clip will maintain the angle in which you put it in, which is great except I can't put it in parallel to my belt as the case latch gets in the way. Apart from that, it feels good and well worth it. Mines was direct from Noreve.

Had the Noreve for a week for the TP...
Hi All,
I was reading reviews and looking for a good case, in the end I went for the Noreve. I am in Australia so bought it from their Australian Website. Ordered on a thursday (late afternoon), received it on the following Tuesday.
I had a Krussell for my DoPoD, didn't like it at all because the leather didn't sit flush and too bulky. Decided not to try again, especially due to all the talk of the plastic over the keyboard.
The Noreve is pretty good. As someone else reported, looks and smells like leather. The belt clip is okay. I accidently used the clip from the old Krussel which was a bit better, but wouldn't lock the phone in place.
The one thing which is hard for me to get used to and is no fault of Noreve, is the way the case opens, from left to right, which is due to the keyboard sliding out to the left. Slowly adjusting...
I was worried a bit after I bought it about the clips that hold it in place, whether they would mark the TP. They don't. they are hard plastic and hold the phone securely.
All in all pretty good case, will report back if I encounter any problems.

I wish Vaja will come up with their touch pro case soon.
If not, do you think their universal case will do?

invisibleSHIELD vs Bodyguardz vs Ghost Armor

I need comparisons! So if anyone has both, please please pleases post a review with some pics!
(According to the reviews I read)
invisibleSHIELD:
Full body - $24.95 /w free shipping (Quantity: 1)
Thinner than Bodyguardz
Less pieces
Lifetime warranty
Bodyguardz
Full body - $24.95 /w free shipping (Quantity: 2)
A bit thicker and has more grip to it
A little more difficult than invisibleSHIELD to put on
Lifetime warranty
20% off anything from Bodyguardz after ordering
Ghost Armor
**Coming Soon**
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invisibleSHIELD: (Thanks to paperdimension)
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Bodyguardz: (Thanks to bodyguardz.com!)
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Feel free to post and I'll add. This is just to tell the difference. I'll add more brands if people add reviews and such.
Opinions:
-Bodyguardz is tougher and protects better because it's thicker
Customer Experiences:
-Bodyguardz was fast and without problem
-invisibleSHIELD had horrible CS and I returned my product

I only have bodygaurdz, at first I didn't like it, but after a week or so the small imperfections cleared up, it's kinda growing on me. I also have some ghost armor that I am going to install this weekend.

Is it possible for you to take close up pictures and show the parts that aren't covered? Also, have you dropped it yet? Did it protect your device?

There's also clear-coat, which is $25 with lifetime warranty.
I've had invisibleshields for my tablet pc, but hated it. Their warranty is a little tricky, since they won't honor mistakes, whereas clearcoat will.
I could be wrong, but i've read somewhere that invis does not have a different version for the fuze, but just sell the ones for the gsm touch pro.
Whether I'm right or wrong, the fact is that clearcoat accounts for the physical differences:
1) We do account for the PTT button. We use a series of strips to cover the corners and sides - so we altered one of these strips to account for the PTT Button.
2) The back cover is one piece, and also has flaps extending from it to cover the sides and top as well. We have had no problem with the multi-faceted back - the 1-piece design still covers all the angled edges perfectly, with no creasing or bubbling.
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Do all of these cover the hardware buttons below the screen, including the entire scroll wheel? Mine already has light scratches in the center of that bowl shaped button and I want to prevent further damage.

I lik the feel of invisi, havent tried any others. But i want something thats easy to put on as well, invisi for the fuze is hard, same for the tilt, but on my wing it was easy as pie.
Thats because the wing had different material, its not really a slick plastic which probably made it alot easier. Clear coat is definitely new to me, but guardz gives you 2 so thats hot for me.

Pictures of IS on Fuze
Hi all,
I posted pictures of my Fuze with IS (Full Body).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453332

**UPDATED!**
Added pics of invisibleSHIELD and Bodyguardz
My Personal Opinion:
invisibleSHIELD looks much thinner and doesn't look like it fits the fuze correctly
Bodyguardz looks MUCH tougher and it seems to cover more area so that's a go for me and I just ordered it right now! Just check the pictures and see.
A bit disappointed that it doesn't cover the corners, but then again, that was expected.

Nice posts
I was looking for a post like this two weeks ago, thanks for making it Kraize. Will add my 2 cents to the discussion.
I ordered Fuze invisibleSHIELD last week, will install next week.
I noticed that paperdimension has the PTT button self-cut and has the camera hole. Is that Touch Pro version or Fuze version? I also noticed that invisibleSHIELD provides a center button cover. Nice! I can't tell from the pictures if Bodyguardz does too.
I heard invisibleSHIELD/Bodyguardz exhibit an orange peel effect on the screen. This may or may not be only on the iPhone's glass screen. We have plastic, so it might not be that bad. It doesn't look horrible in paperdimension's pictures. Bodyguardz doesn't have a clear picture of the screen itself, so I can't tell. If it's really bad, that's a deal breaker for me since I'm really ocd about my gadgets
Example of orange peel effect: http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/orange001.jpg
I'm actually really happy with the Fuze's included screen protector. Fits extremely well and is extremely smooth and shiny (I love the smooth look very much). The smooth effect aids in smooth gliding for fingernail/stylus navigation. It is cut so well that, after putting it on, I can't even tell that there is a protector. Sadly, there are already three scratches on the protector so I will need to replace it when it gets really bad. Is there a place to order the OEM screen protectors?
I used to have a Pelican screen protector on my PSP. I used that for a year until I replaced it with a Hori screen protector from Japan. Both cost $5. OMG the difference between Pelican and Hori was night and day. The Pelican screen protector distorted colors and images. The Hori screen protector resulted in vibrant colors, crisp and clear pixels. It was like a brand new PSP screen. Sadly, as far as I know, Hori doesn't make a Touch Pro/Fuze screen protector.
From my PSP research, Martin Fields also makes expensive but good/clear protectors. It turns out they also have a Touch Pro protector. (http://www.martinfields.com/US/productdec.asp?pid=4100&modeln=&model=) Anybody have experience with this one?
EDIT: Found a thread in X1 comparing Martin Fields with InvisibleSHIELD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446228). I think I will leave on the OEM screen protector, add the InvisibleShield to the back/sides when it arrives, and replace the OEM screen protector with a Martin Fields when the OEM protector collects too many scratches... Pricey, but I like my screens shiny and clear =)

I think i might buy the guardz, i hope its easier to put on than the invisi. Wanna give a way your code Kraize b4 i order lol? But as far as the thickness goes it gives the phone a wonderful feel after you put it on.

xboxhaxorz said:
I think i might buy the guardz, i hope its easier to put on than the invisi. Wanna give a way your code Kraize b4 i order lol? But as far as the thickness goes it gives the phone a wonderful feel after you put it on.
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Sorry, bodyguardz doesn't give you an coupon code. I mean it only allows you to get that discount if you log in your account and order it

srt42b said:
Do all of these cover the hardware buttons below the screen, including the entire scroll wheel? Mine already has light scratches in the center of that bowl shaped button and I want to prevent further damage.
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Bump? Anyone?

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Bump? Anyone?
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read the thread, it was mentioned that IS includes a cover for the round button.

Thank you. What about the other 2 brands?

nice review, i ordered my bodyguardz yesterday and did next day shipping so should be here by 2morrow i will provide my customer exp with the full body guard

I also ordered them yesterday. I don't remember, but is the free shipping (USPS First class) next day shipping?

IS Fuze Version
In installed Fuze IS last night. Fit is slightly better than paperdimension's Touch Pro IS. Cut much closer for the Fuze. A noticeable difference is that paperdimension's version has the front layer folding over to cover the sides. The Fuze IS has separate pieces for the front and the sides.
Imo, provides better corner coverage in certain areas than Bodyguardz from what I see in this thread. Will post pictures in a week after it cures (extremely busy atm). You can be the judge then.

BodyGaurdz
I installed the BodyGaurdz last night on my TP. It did not come with a center button protector.
14 pieces to put on. It wasn't bad at all. I'm glad they sent 2 sets. Because I may need to redo the back. I have a couple of big bubbles that may not go away. The hardest one was the one for the buttons on the front. The bevel for the center button traps air bubbles. Very hard to push out.
The back has two pieces. One for the back plate and another for the camera strip.
I went through a whole bottle of solution (which is just water and baby shampoo).

IMO, Bodyguardz IS the way to fly, there customer service is above superior. If you take your time and install it the way the directions indicate, it fits perfectly. I did much of research regarding these film style protectors, and the bodyguardz seems to be the best value.
1. 2 sets for 24.99!!!!!!
2. Lifetime replacements
3. Discount for repeat customers.
4. Superior customer service (they actually care)
Gone are the days of "the customer is always correct". However Bodyguardz seems to be the exception to this. 24.99 is not much money, they could charge ALOT more and still be worth the price. This company really knows how to deliver and take care of a customer to maintain loyalty on both ends. I believe this is what is and will set Bodyguardz apart from the competition.
P.s. Ill copy what a previous poster already said.....
As far as ZAGG and the invisible shield goes.... Must be a damn good product because i cant even find the damn thing in my mail box, the bullsh*t tracking number is invisible also, fedex can't even seem to locate it. And that is the truth. Ordered from ZAGG and 3 months later, still no product and no refund.
FU*K YOU ZAGG
!!!!!!!!YEA BODYGUARDZ!!!!!!

well i just installed mines, i gotta say it took longer than i expected, there is alot of peices and the baby shampoo and water did help but some how got sticky ressude on the non sticky part of the protect how do i remove?
by the way this protect covers almost every part of ur phone expect the center button which i find is ackward since the center button is used more often than any other button but i guess since its a bit pushed into the phone alittle it will make it difficult to remove
also they said while removing the protector it could actually damage ur phone i guess cuz it sticks on there pretty tight so be very careful removing it, good thing i am paying for my insurance

official acer case pictures

it fits perfectly and feels good
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link? price?

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I got mine in Wisconsin at Staples store for $40. Or you could order form staples.com
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I have the case. Not super crazy about it, but better than the tablet being it's naked slippery self. Tight fit getting it on or off, but still slips in the case just a tiny bit in use. The slipping causes things like the front facing web cam will not be aligned it its port.
The actual opening to get the tablet inside is at the bottom of the case when the cover is open in "stand mode" so that can allow the above mentioned slipping also.
The stand function is passable, but I think the angle it creates is a bit too shallow and causes the screen to catch glare from overhead lights. I would like if it stood the tablet a little more upright to escape that glare.
I've seen a very similar case for the iPad series, so we are not alone.
So, not perfect, but better than nothing.

isn't it the same thing like the official ipad 1 case last year

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So, not perfect, but better than nothing.
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Agreed. I kinda like mine but would really prefer a slim well fitting leather folio. One nice feature of the case is it doesn't weigh much, so your tablet still feels very light in your hand, which is never the situation with a leather case.
The stand angle is definitely crap though - if I set it on my desk at work it invariably reflects the overhead lights into my eyes. The ability to adjust it even slightly would make that easier.
And agreed - the tablet sure moves around inside the case a lot considering how tight it fits.

the stand position is actually pretty nice for me. i use it at my desk at home (with lamp light, no overhead) so thats probably why i like it. but the only thing i dont like is the cheaply velcro used (seems to undo to easily, i would prefer magnets like a cell phone case) and the slipping out during use. other than that i like it

I've got one of these too, and I noticed that if the slightest bit of anything gets on it, it looks ugly. It was on a table when a bottle of soda got spilled, only a few drops hit it, and you can see exactly where those drops hit it at.
As far as the case goes, it would be a lot better if the flap was magnetic, and if there was something for it to catch on on the back when it's flat. It's obnoxious to have to deal with putting it into the stand shape when you're just holding it to check your e-mail.

netham45 said:
I've got one of these too, and I noticed that if the slightest bit of anything gets on it, it looks ugly. It was on a table when a bottle of soda got spilled, only a few drops hit it, and you can see exactly where those drops hit it at.
As far as the case goes, it would be a lot better if the flap was magnetic, and if there was something for it to catch on on the back when it's flat. It's obnoxious to have to deal with putting it into the stand shape when you're just holding it to check your e-mail.
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At least the case did its job and protected the tablet from your soda damage. Also, the case cleans pretty easily with a damp cloth.
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I have had the Acer case for a couple of weeks. It feels like wetsuit material. but does the job, and it is easy to wipe any dirt off it. I did cut a inverted 'V' so that the microphone was not obstructed.
All the ports are easy to get to but, nevertheless, exposed. So, I wanted a sleeve that I could slip the tablet into when placing it in my briefcase, and I found the attached at a store that sells Japanese goods (the case is actually from China.) See attached photo.
This fits the A500 in the Acer case very nicely, and good enough to take into a meeting.
The cost of the case: $1.50.
ps. The store is Daiso Japan and the item is Plastic Case (B5) 497 990 9845 486. Nothing unique about it and I am sure you can find similar ones around from other stores.

I bought this case and am not too thrilled about it. I already have an Arkon stand so the built-in stand function is kind of useless, and really just makes that side of the cover really flimsy. The case attracts too much "stuff" and degrades the look of the product and it doesnt fit like a glove as you'd think. I also dont like how it doesnt cover up the bottom of the A500 at all, nor the fact that if you dont use the stand fuction, the tablet has a tendency to fall out of the case, since its on "backwards."
that... and the smell... ugh.

Amazon has it on sale today for 29 bucks
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Iconia-A...14JA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1307123390&sr=8-2

second that on the smell i bought a 10 inch netbook bag today to replace the case

I have the official case and am about to ditch it for a folio style from ebay.
Not only does it look tatty when it is on, it's almost impossible to clean the screen with it on, as all the dust etc collects in the corners, and constant removal and replacement has stretched the opening so I now have the dreaded 'slide' effect.
In addition to this, obviously something abrasive has got between the screen and the case (still waiting for my screen protector to arrive) and put a tiny gouge in the screen on the black bezel near the docking connector - rather knocking on the head the assertion that this is covered in 'Gorilla Glass'.
And lets be honest, the Iconia is a beautiful looking bit of kit, and putting it in the official case makes it look rubbish.
In all, 30 quid wasted!

This case is pretty much garbage. I've had it as long as it's been out and here's the low-down...
When you get it, it reeks. I thought that the shipment of cases was accidentally dropped in a puddle of gasoline. But it turned out that was just from the material the case was made of. It did go away eventually though. It took about 30-40 days but now my case is reek-free.
The second problem was the slip issue. The tab slides down at about 3-4mm, which may not seem like a lot, but it's actually the perfect annoying amount. It causes the front camera to be blocked by the case itself, the speakers to not line up correctly, the bottom part of the front side of the case comes close to blocking you from using the task bar buttons efficiently, and the ambient light sensor is blocked. Some members on here have recommended double sided tape, but don't waste your time. It just slows the slipping down and it doesn't stick to well to the case material. Now I have an entire roll of Scotch double-sided tape that I will never use. However, I have found great success with heavy duty Velcro. I bought a pack with two strips from Staples and used half of one of the strips, cut into 2 and popped them on either side of the Acer logo on the back of the unit. It holds okay with the case material, creates just enough wedge pressure in the back, while allowing you to take the tablet out of the case if you really want to. My front camera and taskbar buttons have not been blocked at all since implementing this Velcro. One user here mentioned that they did some sewing and sewed the unit into the case at the opening and that works well. If my Velcro doesn't work as a more subtle solution long-term, I may go in that direction. I can't help but wonder if the case was made upside-down, would we have the slip problems at all (the opening is at the bottom when you hold it naturally).
The best thing about this case, though (and why I keep bothering to attempt to fix it) is that I love its stand features. The stand on the back is nice, and frankly, better than some of those ugly alternative bulky stands out there. I can stand it up on the table while sitting and eating, or flip it upside down and use the slighter stand to ramp it up just enough while laying down in bed.
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I bought this case a while back and have not had any problems with it. It's easy to clean with a damp cloth, and protects my tablet. I have not had any issues with my tablet slipping yet. The stand also seems to be stable enough for me. The one thing I did do though was remove the Velcro and glue two tiny rare earth magnets in their place. Now the case snaps shut and stays shut. I wish I could add one more magnet to keep the cover open when holding the tablet.

ReganH22 said:
I bought this case a while back and have not had any problems with it. It's easy to clean with a damp cloth, and protects my tablet. I have not had any issues with my tablet slipping yet. The stand also seems to be stable enough for me. The one thing I did do though was remove the Velcro and glue two tiny rare earth magnets in their place. Now the case snaps shut and stays shut. I wish I could add one more magnet to keep the cover open when holding the tablet.
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Since implementing the Velcro solution mentioned in my previous post, no interference from slipping! Recommend!

Yeah I might try the Velcro if I start having problems with it slipping.