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Seidio Holster Review with Face-Out Pics and Port Mods

This is a review of the Seidio Rubberized Spring Clip Holster (HLCG8925AS) for the HTC Kaiser/TyTN II and AT&T Tilt/8925. All pics are posted after the review, but some have links embedded in the review.
First of all, let me clarify what others have been incorrectly posting. "Rubberized coating" is a misnomer. It is not a coating. It is a surface finish to the plastic, which gives the plastic a non-slip, rubbery texture and feels similar to the back of the Kaiser.
Second, let me answer the most frequently asked question about this holster. YES, THE SEIDIO HOLSTER CAN BE USED FACE-OUT. However, button and port access is limited for face-out, as described below and shown in the pics.
First Impression
"Wow." That was my first thought when I first put my hands on the Seidio holster. The rubberized texture feels nice and gives the holster a soft touch. In addition, the plastic gives just enough that it shouldn't scratch your phone even with repeated use. Even so, they added a rubber strip (pic) where the hinge contacts the phone. Nice extra. The springs on the hinge and belt clip are confidently stout.
The felt back is a thin material and well adhered to the holster. I know it's there to protect the screen (even though the screen doesn't actually touch the holster), but I like knowing it's also protecting the back of my phone when I use the holster in my preferred face-out position.
Nothing negative to say for the first impression--Seidio went all out on the craftsmanship. But let's see how it fairs after the honeymoon.
Ease of Use
Unlike most holsters that lock the phone in place with a plastic tab, Seidio uses a spring-loaded hinge. The spring requires a good amount of force to open.
The phone snaps in place with ease. To release it, I hold the phone on the sides and use my index finger to push the hinge's tab. This doesn't feel completely natural to me but nonetheless is a simple, fluid motion and is certainly faster and easier than any pouch-style or quick-release clip. Also, I've never had any concerns of dropping the phone while inserting or removing the the phone like other people have reported.
The downside to this speed and ease is that under the right circumstances the holster can accidentally open and send your phone tumbling to the floor. I've only been using the holster a few days, and already my phone has almost fallen out. I was reaching into my car when the tab pressed against the tailgate and I felt the phone pop out. Fortunately, even though the hinge cleared the outer edge of my phone, the spring kept the hinge pressed against the top of my phone. Thus, the phone did not fully eject from the holster and instead hung precariously while my hand darted to snap it back in the holster.
Face-In vs. Face-out
The big question for a lot of potential buyers is the face-out capability. Yes, the hinge holds just fine in both positions. But don't take my word for it, compare the hinge contact yourself in my pictures (face-in vs. face-out).
Both positions hold the phone equally well. The big difference is the phone's front-to-back slope. Potentially, face-in would be less likely to accidentally eject since the hinge would have to travel up a longer sloper as opposed to the face-out where it would be traveling down the slope (and almost pushing the phone out).
Button/Port Accessibility
The next big question is the port and button accessibility for face-in and face-out. Can't do a table in a post, so see my handy access chart pic.
For face-in, you have access to all buttons and ports except the screen, DPad area, stylus, and MicroSD port (pic). Also, the camera button is hard to press because it's at the edge of a superfluous curve (left pic).
For face-out, you have access to all buttons and ports except the vital ExtUSB, mic, and stylus (pic). Also, the camera button is usable via fingernail only (right pic).
The atrocity here is that the holster could have had full access to all buttons and ports for both face-in and face-out by simply changing certain edges. For example, the aforementioned curve unnecessarily interferes with the camera button in both face-in and face-out. The bottom lip that blocks the MicroSD, ExtUSB, and mic is likewise unnecessary. The corners that wrap around the Start and OK buttons don't need to extend as far as they do (front pic vs. front mod pic). And although the holster does not press these buttons when the phone is seated, it does press them when inserting or removing the phone face-out.
Mods to the Rescue!
Fortunately, I was able to mod my holster to fix some of the most obvious access issues. First, I rounded the Start/OK corner edges inward with my Dremel (front mod pic). Now they don't press, even when inserting, and they hold the phone just as securely. Next, I trimmed the lower lip to allow ExtUSB access (bottom mod pic). Haven't bothered with the camera button yet.
None of these mods affect the holster's structural stability or grip on the phone. Unfortunately, adding stylus access will affect the corner strength because Seidio designed the corners with a stylish curve that dips too close to the stylus (right pic). Would have been nice if they had extended the material higher up the sides, which also would have strengthened the holster and held the phone better. <sigh>
Belt Clip
The belt clip is one of the best I've encountered. Instead of the normal divot/pin position lock like my 8925 leather case had (and broke after only 2 weeks), the clip has a sturdy slotted wheel (back pic; note the spring strength by how white my thumb is from the pressure). The clip only rotates 180 degrees instead of 360 (so your phone can't hang upside-down) and fits belts 1.5" (3.8cm) wide.
A big warning: THE BELT CLIP WILL MAR LEATHER BELTS! The strong spring presses the lock wheel hard against the your belt and scratches your belt surface. I tried putting an adhesive felt disc over the wheel, but it wore off because the wheel's ribs don't provide a suitable adhesive surface.
Price/Value
Typical holsters run $10-15 USD. This Seidio holster runs $30 USD. The craftsmanship is definitely better than cheaper holsters, but it's not thrice as good, especially for a face-in only holster. For the price, I'd expect both face-in and face-out support with full button/port access in both positions.
Conclusion
If you want the finest Kaiser holster on the market, the Seidio is it. However, it comes with a premium price and is not without its flaws, particularly Seidio's design shortcomings for the obvious face-out orientation. Thus, Seidio falls short on an otherwise exemplary product. I rate it a 4 out of 5 stars.
Pros
Excellent quality
Non-slip rubberized feel
Protective felt backing
Stout hinge with rubber phone protector
Usable as both face-in and face-out
Cons
Expensive
Reduced button/port access for face-out
Belt clip damages belts

Seidio Holster Pictures
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Holster Pictures

Face-In vs. Face-Out

Accessibility Chart

Face-In Access

Face-Out Access

Mods

Nicely done review BennTech

Great review, and that is one very well designed holster.

Very nice and thorough review!!!
I just got mine today also. I like it, its better than I expected. I'm not much of a holster person, esp when I'm wearing casual clothes, I just keep it in my pocket. But when dressed up a little, putting it in the pocket isn't the best option. It moves around too much and might give the impression "I'm a little TOO happy" A holster in thos situations works better and looks more professional.
I really can't add ANYTHING to your review. Its spot on and complete!
Excellent mods also! you should send those pics back to Seidio and see if they can mod theirs to it. I already inquired about them making one that would be better for face-out storage. Your solution would make it applicable for either! Love the button access matrix!

If only HTC had thought a bit about holster designs then we wouldn't need that spring loaded flap. It gets the job done though. Blackberrys snap into place and it's all done with slight device indentations.
BTW, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think too many people are asking for outward facing holsters.

jomo25 said:
I'm not much of a holster person, esp when I'm wearing casual clothes, I just keep it in my pocket.
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Yeah, despite the size of my old Wizard, I always kept it in my pocket. Unfortunately, I forgot about it in my pocket and accidentally washed it. And that was the second phone that I've washed. Yes, I'm a slow learner.
So, after that last $480 load of laundry, I've vowed not to put my phone in my pocket anymore. That means I need a case that clips to my belt/waistband and allows me use the phone without removing it from the case. The latter is very important because I am lazy. If I have take my phone out of its case to use, then walk to another room without the case, that phone is going right into my pocket when I'm done (...then my jeans into the laundry, then me to the phone store). And that is why I need a face-out holster.
TiltedAz said:
BTW, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think too many people are asking for outward facing holsters.
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First of all, don't get me wrong about face-in--I use it all the time, too. In fact, I prefer to carry my phone face-in to protect it while traveling, but then when I get to my destination, I flip it face-out so I can use it while in the holster, which avoids those expensive loads of laundry mentioned above. (Am I the only person who washes his phones?)
But even if I'm the only person in the world who wants a face-out holster, why is Seidio the only company to make a face-in holster? Every other company makes face-out holsters only, so I think your assumption is inherently inaccurate. Plus, if every one is using holsters face-in only, then why does Seidio need to go through the extra trouble and expense of putting a sticker on the holster that says "PDA FACE IN DESIGN"? Because they know some people will attempt to use it face-out and they should have planned for that obvious functionality with the simple design changes I pointed out in my review.
Also note that adding full button/port access for face-out would have added absolutely no manufacturing cost if they had been done during the design phase and would have benefited Seidio by allowing them to market the holster as both face-in and face-out. No cost and increased features and marketability? You don't need an MBA to know that's a good thing. Unfortunately, now that they are in production, it will probably cost too much to justify the changes. Alas, my dreams of the perfect face-in/face-out holster may never come to fruition.

Thank you very much for this informative review. I believe you have just chosen my holster ...

BennTech said:
But even if I'm the only person in the world who wants a face-out holster, why is Seidio the only company to make a face-in holster? Every other company makes face-out holsters only, so I think your assumption is inherently inaccurate. .
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Because they are not the only company. My Blackberry holster only works face in. Try it face out and you will destroy the keyboard.
BennTech said:
Plus, if every one is using holsters face-in only, then why does Seidio need to go through the extra trouble and expense of putting a sticker on the holster that says "PDA FACE IN DESIGN"? .
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It should be painfully obvious that it simply wasn't designed for that orientation. No doubt it makes little sense to the average person and therefore there is questionable profit in that idea. More importantly, the Tilt is not symmetrical with respect to the front and back edges and therefore it can't be built for both face-in and out orientations.

Alright, TiltedAz, you're like the third or fourth person wondering why anyone would want a face-out holster. I honestly don't understand why people are so perplexed by the idea. Face-in is better for protection, face-out is better for usability.
For example, when I'm sitting at my desk, I put my phone on my desk where I can actually use it...in the holster, face-out. The holster gives it a slight tilt so I can see the screen better, and I don't have an empty holster on my belt that's constantly getting stuck in my chair. Plus, there's the whole pocket-to-laundry thing which is cured by a face-out holster, but admittedly, I'm probably the only person who repeatedly suffers from that ailment.
If you need more justification, how about when you get a call but don't want to answer because it's your girlfriend/boyfriend calling you at work or your boss calling repeatedly on the weekend? In face-out, you just reach down and hit Ignore to send it straight to voicemail, unlike face-in which requires removing/re-inserting the phone.
Or how about everyone who uses their phone to listen to music? With face-in, where exactly are you going to map all the common functions like play/pause, volume, rewind/fast-forward, and next/previous? With face-out, you have access to all the buttons and thus can map all these functions and more.
Or what about those of us who use our phone as our watch? Face-out lets me check the time even while it's clipped to my belt by simply tilting the holster.
Anyway, the point is that both face-in and face-out serve a useful purpose. Seidio comes so close to the ultimate solution with their holster, but fall just short. Apparently they've got their head stuck in the same box as my detractors.
Are you listening, Seidio? Think outside of the face-in box!

Thanks for the thorough review
I have one concern ...
your "FACE-IN" picture showed that the phone's top portion ( shiny plastic ) is rubbing against the inside curve of the hinge.
any chance that it will be scratch ??? it is ALL metal, aside from the little rubber strip & the felt lining ... correct ?? I honestly don't know the material ... if it is ... how heavy is it ( on top of our already weighty beast )
Thanks

UnicornKaz said:
your "FACE-IN" picture showed that the phone's top portion ( shiny plastic ) is rubbing against the inside curve of the hinge.
any chance that it will be scratch ??? it is ALL metal, aside from the little rubber strip & the felt lining ... correct ?? I honestly don't know the material ... if it is ... how heavy is it ( on top of our already weighty beast )
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The case is a lightweight plastic. It is slightly flexible and the rubberized texture that gives it a soft feel. No chance of scratching, and no significant weight increase.

Kudos on the fantastic review of a quality product. I'm a "face-in" guy but your "face-out" argument is thought provoking.

So, having used it for a day, i will say, this holster is fantastic for what it does. For face in, its very well designed. It would even be great for face out, if it had the mods that BennTech made. I might even try it myself after a while. Its light, soft, rubberized, has extra "softness" in all the right places. THere really is no chance for scratching, except for the one place that BennTech noted: your belt. But I can live with that, belts don't cost hundreds of dollars
Its really a great holster. Its one of the best holsters (not cases) i've had for any device ever.

Another case thread...Slimmest Kaiser Case?

Well there seems to be a lot of views about the best cases out there, just wondered what the most 'pocket friendly' case was?
Don't care about the material as long as it isn't a sock or a stick-on option (ie an actual case)
Definitely no belt loop, preferably a very low profile clasp etc...
Basically just want something that is likely to stop it getting scratched up in a bag or if it was dropped, but don't need full armour!
Any good suggestions?

I've been looking for something pocket friendly as well... I'm almost ready to just get a thin sunglass pouch... currently I'm using a case for a Sprint Mogul, but it has a belt clip...

i use an ipod slip case, and have pulled off the belt clip, gives good protection to the screen,
going to order a leater slip case from www.pdair.com to see what thats like

I've got one of these - http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561
Doesn't add much to the size at all, and I keep mine in my pocket all the time.

Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm

I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

SpeedRazr said:
I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone

scharnet said:
Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm
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The "tiltflipblack" is made by PDair and is available for 1/2 that price. I've had one for several weeks and it still looks new, and I wear it every day. It's the perfect case for me.

The slimest most "pocketable" case I've found yet, is the formfitting Noreve case as seen here:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/archive/00006945.htm
It is also one of the very few - true - formfitting cases (using a laminated leather design, w/o the ugly and disturbing plasting cover over the KB. It protects the front and back really well, if not so much the sides. Easy to use and good workmanship.
Actually it IS meant (IMO) for pocket carrying.
Have it for about a month, still looks as new. If however looking for a drawback, then to my daily use pattern there is one. While in the case using the Kaiser/Tilt for navigation (in a cradle) needs taking it out of the case.
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I've tried several ...
Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Just wanted to add my comments based on owning 4 different cases for the Tilt/Kaiser ...
The PDAir aluminum cased is good and pocketable. It is a little on the heavy side, but I've carried it arond now for a couple of weeks and it's all right. The downside is that there is a hard plastic protector over the touchscreen of the Tilt. You have to open the case to use the touchscreen or you have to take the hard plastic out. You can either cut out or push it out with some force, but the plastic is glued in and is under the neoprene that cushions the Tilt against the case. Not the smallest feel in the pocket, but no leather covered cardboard bulk feel. The size of this reminds me of a naked 8125 in my pocket (did that without disaster for almost 2 years).
I also tried the PDAir leather flip case. That one is definitely not pocketable unless you have some REALLY big pockets. And I'm not a big flip cover guy. Another strike is the plastic keyboard cover.
I also tried the Noreve and it's a nice leather case. I would consider this one pocketable, it's rather slim. But it has the flip cover. The good thing is that it has no plastic keyboard cover. It's a little loose when you close the cover with the snap. It's not loosely held in ... that's a good fit. But the snap doesn't hold the flip cover down as firmly as I'd like.
Lastly, I JUST snapped on one of the plastic snap-on kind. Good fit, but not sure how much the plastic will help in a fall. It snapped on tightly ... so tightly it took 15 minutes to get it off! I did not like that at all. If something goes wrong and you need to drop the battery quickly ... 'quickly' won't happen with this case. You can still use the touchscreen and it's a very tight snap on fit. Doesn't add much bulk or weight for pocket storage. NOTE: if you pick one of these up, be careful and check whether the belt clip button on the case is screw on or permanent. The permanent ones won't be pocketable.
The best feel in the pocket is the plane Tilt/Kaiser with no case. But I know I'm pushing my luck if I continue to do that. Still switching up to see what I end up liking most. Hope this info helps folks.

Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
YES!
The openings for the keypad and LCD are tappered to provide the best access to the edges but they become alittle harder to get at due to the thickness of the plastic.
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
Yes the screen slides out and up to the normal position. The upper softkeys are silightly harder to get at when tilted due to the tickness of the plastic.
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
Fit was tight, and snapped into place. I do not plan to use the clip as it is optional, but I will follow up with a proper review and test it out. I will get exact mesuraments later but it is not a big change and well worth the extra size.
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Yup! Cheap Too!
I will follow up with a better review tonight.

What I do not understand about using the transparent plastic snap, is why the hack would one need a case at all when all the really "pocket sensitive" components (Touch screen, Camera lens) are not covered at all... IMO if one is indiferent to this, they may not need a case at all.
I guess that all cases are kind of trade offs. Whatever protects adds bulk in the zones protected, light protection protects less than heavy armor but presents snappier use and so on.
The potentially best solution I've seen yet is actually not offered for the Tilt/Kaiser. It is made by EB Cases and called the eNovo. It is made of sturdy yet thin laminated leather, offering a form fitting case with an optional leather flip.
http://www.ebcases.com/-strse-3333/eNOVO-PAQ-6500/Detail.bok
I'm trying for some time to convince EB, Noreve and BoxWave (the ones apparently having the technology) to think about it...
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thanks kahibbi and SpeedRazr for your input, i look forward to your review

SpeedRazr said:
I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I picked this up from DayDeal.com and it didnt' fit my ATT tilt. the back does but the front will not stay on
i picked up the alum. case for travel and biking it is perfect. also from DayDeal

Kaiser hard case? (That covers screen and buttons)

Anyone know of a hard case for the kaiser that covers everything? I do *not* need to be able to see the screen or press any buttons while it is in the case, I want something *tough* to put it inside that will fit in my pocket and take knocks.
UK please...

I'm using a Pdair Aluminum Metal Case
They do free postage to anywhere and are sent from Hong Kong. I've bought many products over the years from them and are very well packaged/presented.
Edit: I just noticed you said UK. I've had the products sent to both New Zealand and Taiwan with free postage and takes around a week.

http://www.cases.com/eltytn2h.htm
I got this case about a week ago and am loving it. I like the pockets for storing microsd cards. The "credit card" pockets aren't wide enough for anything but paper. There's a pocket beneath those pockets to keep my swipe card for easy accessibility. There's a hard insert in the leather so it's very stiff and will not touch the screen. It was tight on the tilt for a day or two until the leather loosened up. No belt clip option on it which is what I was looking for. open access to plug, buttons, camera, and everything.
Just noticed they are on backorder.

nope, I am looking for a rigid plastic pocket - open at one end as splitting down the middle makes it weak. I am looking to do off-road downhill sports with the kaiser running memory map (see sig) in my pocket. Something that, should I take a fall, the kaiser will have a reasonable chance of survival. Leather pouches, protective fascias and the like just aint gonna cut it.

I am looking for something like this too, but I am in the US.

http://www.seidioonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=896
Best case ever made imo it doesnt need removing either when you need to use the keyboard although it doesnt protect the screen, I use an additional screen cover for that protects against damage.

For the seido, from post #6, that case does neither cover the buttons nor the screen.
thanks though

If you're looking for a severe duty case, these guys are highly recommended and service customers globally.
http://www.pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=i1010

My coworker gave me his Pal Treo case where he had his Tilt in.
Fits in my pocket too.
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more pics of it here:
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That Palm case is slick, but I don't think it'll handle the extended batteries.

If i file the raised groove that makes the tilt/treo fit snug, i think it can clear about 2mm more room. dont know how much thicker the bigger battery can get.

i picked up one of these ebay specials http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350037529875&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=022 covers the screen but not the buttons. for the price i'm not complaining.

+1 to the peli case suggestion. I do already own a peli case (In fact that's the "Camera case" I mentioned in one of my earlier posts) but I don't think they really do one in a suitable size / weight - their cases are maybe *too* over-engineered to put in a pocket. I did notice a page on their site where you could submit the inner dimensions you want in a box so I popped in the kaisers vital statistics (plus a bit of depth to allow for an ext battery) - let's see what they come back with.
Would not think twice about buying peli again, absolutely top notch quality.

evilc said:
+1 to the peli case suggestion. I do already own a peli case (In fact that's the "Camera case" I mentioned in one of my earlier posts) but I don't think they really do one in a suitable size / weight - their cases are maybe *too* over-engineered to put in a pocket. I did notice a page on their site where you could submit the inner dimensions you want in a box so I popped in the kaisers vital statistics (plus a bit of depth to allow for an ext battery) - let's see what they come back with.
Would not think twice about buying peli again, absolutely top notch quality.
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If you need a second buyer for one of these count me in. Their standard cases are just a bit big. Same with the Otterbox cases. I am looking for something that looks like the Palm case above but has the ruggedness of a Pelican or Otterbox.

I am looking for something similar. I would like to attach my TyTN II to my bike. Standard bike mounts (such as http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11492 ) are not an option for me, since they don't protect a PDA a little bit.
I have in mind something similar to Just Mobile Rugged Case ( http://www.just-mobileonline.com/products_protectionseries_4.html ) but they make it for HTC Prophet only (although dimensions are not very different).
I was looking at the Otterbox as well, but they are huge, ugly and expensive (shipping to Slovakia would cost twice as much as the case itself!).
Pelican looks good but I want a case that would fit my PDA well (is suited for it).
Yesterday I have ordered PDair aluminium case ( http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561 ), will post here as soon as I recieve it, if it's strong and protective enough.

omikr0n said:
I am looking for something similar. I would like to attach my TyTN II to my bike. Standard bike mounts (such as http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=11492 ) are not an option for me, since they don't protect a PDA a little bit.
I have in mind something similar to Just Mobile Rugged Case ( http://www.just-mobileonline.com/products_protectionseries_4.html ) but they make it for HTC Prophet only (although dimensions are not very different).
I was looking at the Otterbox as well, but they are huge, ugly and expensive (shipping to Slovakia would cost twice as much as the case itself!).
Pelican looks good but I want a case that would fit my PDA well (is suited for it).
Yesterday I have ordered PDair aluminium case ( http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561 ), will post here as soon as I recieve it, if it's strong and protective enough.
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Looks like we both have the same needs in a phone protector. If you don't mind after using it for a while commenting on whether your phone reception/signal strength/gps is altered by the metal case.
Thanks,
Jeff

Pelican Cases For Tilts - Overkill - Yes
It's like killing a fly with a .357 magnum.
Until Pelican goes from, "Tell us the interior dimensions you'd like to have and we'll let our engineers know!" to "Tell us the interior dimensions you'd like to have and we'll MAKE IT FOR YOU", I'll keep on looking. Pelican cases are GREAT, no doubt. But, from a practical standpoint, I can't see how you would implement a reasonable and acceptable convenient access/storage of your phone with these Pelican Cases. I own several, but I use mine to store things like My Surefires, other sensitive gadgets, important external portable hard drives, my telescope and astrological bino filters, etc. For things like these, you can't beat Pelican. But, for in and out continual use, it would get real old real quick, whipping out the Pelican case to get your phone before you miss the call. Plus, I have broken a few nails just opening them up in a hurry. Not that matters to men, but for me, it’s a *****.
The Treo, from the photos, looks most conducive to housing the Tilt, but not with the extended battery in place and I agree, a little shaving off the Treo case and it'll probably work. I am using a treo leather case with a single snap over the top. I have a screen protector on and a big ass extended battery. I have the hard rubber case, but the back plate will not work with the extended battery in place so it sits in my drawer. Too bad too because even with the camera hole on the front, the face plate would've hidden the at&t logo in the upper right of the casing. Leaving it on by itself looks silly. Bummer.
Anyway, I just wanted to give you my perspective since I have Pelicans and know their capabilities and at the same time recognize their limitations in terms of storing this or that.
~ Gwen

SkunkyGwen said:
It's like killing a fly with a .357 magnum.
Until Pelican goes from, "Tell us the interior dimensions you'd like to have and we'll let our engineers know!" to "Tell us the interior dimensions you'd like to have and we'll MAKE IT FOR YOU", I'll keep on looking. Pelican cases are GREAT, no doubt. But, from a practical standpoint, I can't see how you would implement a reasonable and acceptable convenient access/storage of your phone with these Pelican Cases. I own several, but I use mine to store things like My Surefires, other sensitive gadgets, important external portable hard drives, my telescope and astrological bino filters, etc. For things like these, you can't beat Pelican. But, for in and out continual use, it would get real old real quick, whipping out the Pelican case to get your phone before you miss the call. Plus, I have broken a few nails just opening them up in a hurry. Not that matters to men, but for me, it’s a *****.
The Treo, from the photos, looks most conducive to housing the Tilt, but not with the extended battery in place and I agree, a little shaving off the Treo case and it'll probably work. I am using a treo leather case with a single snap over the top. I have a screen protector on and a big ass extended battery. I have the hard rubber case, but the back plate will not work with the extended battery in place so it sits in my drawer. Too bad too because even with the camera hole on the front, the face plate would've hidden the at&t logo in the upper right of the casing. Leaving it on by itself looks silly. Bummer.
Anyway, I just wanted to give you my perspective since I have Pelicans and know their capabilities and at the same time recognize their limitations in terms of storing this or that.
~ Gwen
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is your "hard rubber case" the Seidio one? If so do you want to sell it?
Jeff

I use the pelican cases a little differently. I place a RAM mount ball on it so that I can carry the phone in a watertight compartment on my motorcycle/bicycle/atv etc.

I have been thinking lately that I may just make one myself with the polymorph stuff I used in my brodit passive to active car mount mod
Would probably involve puttting the phone in a bag like I did in the cradle mod and wrapping it in polymorph. I am a little concerned that if I did it, it would mould a little too well to the phone and I wouldn't be able to get it out. I suppose I could fill in the screen area with cardboard or something and tape a ridge of material on each side (where the buttons are to ensure there is a groove in the case to stop it pushing the side buttons and roller) before putting it in the bag.
I am thinking an open ended "cup" with a hole in the bottom of the cup so you can push the phone out with your finger. I think if i did it so it went in with the USB towards the bottom of the cup, the hips near the bottom of the kaiser would hold it in place until it was pushed out by putting your finger through the bottom.

I Got my new Kursell orbit flex Case...

So Hey guys I got my touch pro kursell orbit flex Case And let me first to say this is the best case I have used ever a must have for any Fuze are Touch pro.I will be doing a full video review today later I have about 5 customers with Htc phones to modd So no time to make the video right now but guys this case is the best thats out there heres a link to the case
http://www.cases.com/kr75388.htm
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So Hey guys I got my touch pro kursell orbit flex Case And let me first to say this is the best case I have used ever a must have for any Fuze are Touch pro.I will be doing a full video review today later I have about 5 customers with Htc phones to modd So no time to make the video right now but guys this case is the best thats out there heres a link to the case
http://www.cases.com/kr75388.htm
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Hi.
I will make this quick; not much time right now.
I would not buy any case that lets uncovered corners.
Why?
Because if the phone falls you will be very upset because there is a High but Highly chance that you will regret it when your corners get screwed.
See the following info about protecting your device:
Think ABOUT THIS.......
I just read every ones opinion (at least posted ones) and it is Obvious that the following is the best Option for PERFORMANCE/USABILITY and PROTECTION (you will need ALLL THREE):
1. For the SCREEN:
Use a non-glue screen protector (static) and if you are like me that is always WRITING with stylus for EVERYTHING using any Note program every day, then it also HAVE to be a NON-STICKY one because it will be troublesome for you to write on the screen (and it should glide).
Annnnd...... If installation goes wrong (got lints, fingerprints, etc.), you can wash and clean everything and re-apply.
2. For the BODY:
As far as I notice and saw Invisible Shield is Military Grade (only one with PATENT), and VIDEOS and also REVIEWS show the HIGH QUALITY And PROTECTION FROM SCRATCHES.
3. WHOLE PROTECTION:
You will need to find a Shock protection(or whatever you want to call it) CASE that covers the WHOLE phone (you don't want to drop it and then find out that your phone got screwed in a CORNER). It also need to have a HARRRRD FRONT COVER (to protect the screen from Impacts) and I would prefer NON-FLEXIBLE one.
OK, so we HAVE:
BODY:
1. Invisible Shield for the body (or if it is REALLY but REALLY true WITH PROOF and DEMONSTRATION that there is another brand like IS, then post it BUUUUUT with Prooof.)
OK, What we need:
1. Screen Protection-Usability: One that is top performance letting you Glide EASILY your Stylus FOR Writing.
2. A CASE with the Qualities mentioned above in number 3. "WHOLE PROTECTION"
ALL this will let you:
1. CARRY with confidence your device (knowing that is secure, in case you DROP IT).
2. When you have to answer a call or use the device and retrieve it from the case, Show its attractive shiny look.
3. Knowing that once it is out of the case it is SCRATCH proof.
4. Work without having troubles writing on the screen.
Please FEED BACK about this COMMENT.

How bad does the case impair the keyboard (since it covers it in plastic)?
I had one for my tilt & really liked the clip, damage protection (to udgn's credit my corner did get dinged), and slot for my rfid card but I never used the keyboard. The tilt would also catch slightly on the plastic when the keyboard opened.
I've also read where the cover unsnaps easily.
Fuze is in my pocket so far with a bodyguardz back skin & stock(static) screen guard but I'm worried about lint.

Worry about lint?
BryanP said:
How bad does the case impair the keyboard (since it covers it in plastic)?
I had one for my tilt & really liked the clip, damage protection (to udgn's credit my corner did get dinged), and slot for my rfid card but I never used the keyboard. The tilt would also catch slightly on the plastic when the keyboard opened.
I've also read where the cover unsnaps easily.
Fuze is in my pocket so far with a bodyguardz back skin & stock(static) screen guard but I'm worried about lint.
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1. Be specific worrying about lint.
2. Keyboard being covered by plastic... I think it will be a pain.
2. As for a good cover or carrying case I have just FOUND what looks like an alternative:
a. It looks like it covers corners.
b. Protects screen.
But you already started with the right foot by applying protective skins that let you show your phone.
I WILL POST THE LINK TO THE CASE LATER.

udgn,
Pocket lint, http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1492564
I've seen it under the screen of blackberry pearls and it looked like it was already trying to cover up the camera lens after a week on my fuze. Hopefully everyone carries in their pocket & lint isnt an issue... I'm surrounded by iphones & people thinking it doesnt get better than a razr so I've got no reference. The best option I'm seeing so far is the noreve case. Still open on the edges but offers the best protection I can find while still using the keyboard.
Then again, old iphones seem susceptible. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4291585.html
Looking forward to your link.

Dont worry about lint.
BryanP said:
udgn,
Pocket lint, http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1492564
I've seen it under the screen of blackberry pearls and it looked like it was already trying to cover up the camera lens after a week on my fuze. Hopefully everyone carries in their pocket & lint isnt an issue... I'm surrounded by iphones & people thinking it doesnt get better than a razr so I've got no reference. The best option I'm seeing so far is the noreve case. Still open on the edges but offers the best protection I can find while still using the keyboard.
Then again, old iphones seem susceptible. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4291585.html
Looking forward to your link.
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Ok. first things first. Daaammmm it I can't find the info for the case (IT was so F!*#% hard and took alot of time to find that) BUT DON'T WORRY I WANT IT, and I will FIND IT AGAIN. SORRY I don't have it Right now.
Second Don't worry about lint, if you want to keep it clean I suggest you to buy a bottle of COMPRESS AIR and a MICROFIBER CLOTH, and a little brush (have to be made of natural hair) and it will be lint Free. *** and maybe a little vacuum with a brush adapter***
The key is maintenance.
I promise I will find and post the link.

BryanP 'Here is the LINK'
BryanP said:
udgn,
Pocket lint, http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1492564
I've seen it under the screen of blackberry pearls and it looked like it was already trying to cover up the camera lens after a week on my fuze. Hopefully everyone carries in their pocket & lint isnt an issue... I'm surrounded by iphones & people thinking it doesnt get better than a razr so I've got no reference. The best option I'm seeing so far is the noreve case. Still open on the edges but offers the best protection I can find while still using the keyboard.
Then again, old iphones seem susceptible. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how_to/4291585.html
Looking forward to your link.
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HERE IS THE LINK:
(the only reason I'm buying it is because it looks like it covers everything, ESPECIALLY the SCREEN and CORNERS, as it looks like)(I'm not looking at the STYLE "just in case")
Any way I can show the phone's style as I will protect its body with Invisible shield, letting me take it out of the case.
LINK:
http://www.carrymobile.com/scripts/main/viewitem-ATFUZELCBSPBK-FUZE.html

udgn,
Thank you for the link... I looked at the carrymoblile case and it came in #2 on my list.
My big concern was the keyboard seemed to be down in a well of sorts. I tried hard to get a better look at it but even on youtube all I could find were a bunch of still shots.
I was also thinking the belt clip appeared to be slightly off center so the phone would hang crooked. I may give it a go anyway. I ordered the Noreve case back on Feb02 and it's still on backorder.
Depending on where your located & also if you gamble I found the carrymobile at a better cost (est $22 vs $28) http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrymobile-s-L...0QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_MobilePhoneAccessories
Youtube on the noreve case, I see the belt clip is off center on this one as well. Came down to fingers vs well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5PCiGulF5w
If you get the case I'd appreciate your thoughts on how wide the gap is between marketing & actual use. Is there enough room to jam an rfid card in it (gains me access to work)

udgn said:
Hi.
I will make this quick; not much time right now.
I would not buy any case that lets uncovered corners.
Why?
Because if the phone falls you will be very upset because there is a High but Highly chance that you will regret it when your corners get screwed.
See the following info about protecting your device:
Think ABOUT THIS.......
I just read every ones opinion (at least posted ones) and it is Obvious that the following is the best Option for PERFORMANCE/USABILITY and PROTECTION (you will need ALLL THREE):
1. For the SCREEN:
Use a non-glue screen protector (static) and if you are like me that is always WRITING with stylus for EVERYTHING using any Note program every day, then it also HAVE to be a NON-STICKY one because it will be troublesome for you to write on the screen (and it should glide).
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Any recommendations for a "non-sticky" screen? Hard to know online which one will be best.

I had a Krusell for my 8525 and it worked great. It was the same design as linked above. The open corners are not really an issue because the case is slightly larger than the phone and if you drop it the case takes the impact. Also they stand behind their warrenty. I actually chemically melted the belt clip area on mine and the replaced it no questions asked (unfortunately they sent me a case for a tilt instead of an 8525 but at least the replaced it). Krusell builds their cases very very well. I never had a problem using my keyboard with the plastic over it either.
BTW: Carrymobile.com seems to be offline, at least at the moment.

BryanP, Colin 725, Dane Austin
BryanP said:
udgn, Thank you for the link... I looked at the carrymoblile case and it came in #2 on my list. My big concern was the keyboard seemed to be down in a well of sorts. I tried hard to get a better look at it but even on youtube all I could find were a bunch of still shots. I was also thinking the belt clip appeared to be slightly off center so the phone would hang crooked. I may give it a go anyway. I ordered the Noreve case back on Feb02 and it's still on backorder. Depending on where your located & also if you gamble I found the carrymobile at a better cost (est $22 vs $28) http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrymobile-s-L...0QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_MobilePhoneAccessories Youtube on the noreve case, I see the belt clip is off center on this one as well. Came down to fingers vs well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5PCiGulF5w If you get the case I'd appreciate your thoughts on how wide the gap is between marketing & actual use. Is there enough room to jam an rfid card in it (gains me access to work)
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BryanP:
I would really like an horizontal carrying case, but the problem is that all that I know leave corners open, and believe me it does not matter if the case is bigger in the borders remember the case have weight and if it falls the exposed parts will get scratched. I'm still looking, but the only one I found that covers all the phone is the one I posted, and the only problem with it is that I think it's going to be troublesome to retrieve the cell out of the case each time you have to answer. PLEASE let me know if you find one.
Colin 725:
I will post links to the one I know that are like writing in paper and 99% clear (none yellowish), and blocks 99% of the radiation from the screen. I'm posting from my phone so no links now but after 10am I will post them.
Dane Austin:
Know this, if your phone fall, specially on the street, and having in mind that the phone have its weight, ALL exposed parts will get damaged or scratched.

udgn said:
BryanP:
Dane Austin:
Know this, if your phone fall, specially on the street, and having in mind that the phone have its weight, ALL exposed parts will get damaged or scratched.
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No offense, but if I can manage not to break a phone in 6 months I'm doing really good. (In the last 4 years I've broken 3 or 4 Razrs, 1 sony, 2 8525s and now I'm on a FUZE). The krussel case protected my phone from drops very well. I even layed on the phone a few times (forgot it was on my belt and had to get under something). I am extremely hard on phones and cases and this one outlasted ever other case I tried and protected my phone better. The only problem I had with it was that I got a chemical on it and the part where the button attaches on the back melted. They replaced it no questions asked.

Ok I found an Horizontal one.
BryanP said:
udgn,
Thank you for the link... I looked at the carrymoblile case and it came in #2 on my list.
My big concern was the keyboard seemed to be down in a well of sorts. I tried hard to get a better look at it but even on youtube all I could find were a bunch of still shots.
I was also thinking the belt clip appeared to be slightly off center so the phone would hang crooked. I may give it a go anyway. I ordered the Noreve case back on Feb02 and it's still on backorder.
Depending on where your located & also if you gamble I found the carrymobile at a better cost (est $22 vs $28) http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrymobile-s-L...0QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_MobilePhoneAccessories
Youtube on the noreve case, I see the belt clip is off center on this one as well. Came down to fingers vs well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5PCiGulF5w
If you get the case I'd appreciate your thoughts on how wide the gap is between marketing & actual use. Is there enough room to jam an rfid card in it (gains me access to work)
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Ok I think that I found an Horizontal Case from Krusell, By looking at the pictures at least at the bottom corners it looks well guarded, and I think we can modify top corners in order to protect it.
I'm looking at this one because it looks strong and hard leather, and it wont get fluffy.
Link here: http://www.krusellcases.com/uk/p_krusell_zoom.aspx?i=123701

udgn: This may help with your search or at least help with what not to get.
After 3.5 weeks on backorder I got my black Noreve case. I understand your want to protect the top, bottom, sides of the phone & this definitely isnt the case for you. The Krusell I had for my tilt did a much better job as there was some overlap around the corners & the leather was thicker.
Pro:s
Doesnt add near the bulk to the phone as my Krusell did to my kaiser & wizard.
The fingers on the case only really impair the lower right forward arrow and shift key (neither of which I use very often)
Cons: This case should protect the screen somewhat but it also puts it at some risk (IMO) because the 2 slots for extra mmc/sims press against the screen.
I might be able to tweak it but the case does release the phone fairly easily if the keyboard is open. I might be able to fix this with double sided tape but I shouldnt have too after spending this much.
There's no place to hold my rfid card which allows entry to the parking garage & work. Tradeoff for minimal bulk I suppose.
Too early to tell if the belt clip is better but I had grown to like the krusell multidapt system. However, I havent seen any easy way to mod the krusell orbit to get rid of the keyboard cover. It needs to come with a custom battery cover you can permanently attach to the case then allow this to hold the phone in.
I must admit, finding a case for this phone has proven to be a real challenge. I gave up my keyboard with the krusell on the tilt because of the plastic cover and I'm trying to avoid the same with the fuze. I'd like a case that could stay on the phone all the time but still allow keyboard usage & offer protection. I'm concerned with a horizontal belt case I'll drop the phone getting it out of the case. I remember you want to be able to remove the phone so this may be your best bet.

InvisShield + simple horizontal belt clip case is all I've needed to make sure my phone is secure, everyones different but InvisShield provides me with a great sense of mind as far as "if I lay this down it's not going to scratch".

official acer case pictures

it fits perfectly and feels good
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link? price?

kmetek said:
link? price?
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I got mine in Wisconsin at Staples store for $40. Or you could order form staples.com
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I have the case. Not super crazy about it, but better than the tablet being it's naked slippery self. Tight fit getting it on or off, but still slips in the case just a tiny bit in use. The slipping causes things like the front facing web cam will not be aligned it its port.
The actual opening to get the tablet inside is at the bottom of the case when the cover is open in "stand mode" so that can allow the above mentioned slipping also.
The stand function is passable, but I think the angle it creates is a bit too shallow and causes the screen to catch glare from overhead lights. I would like if it stood the tablet a little more upright to escape that glare.
I've seen a very similar case for the iPad series, so we are not alone.
So, not perfect, but better than nothing.

isn't it the same thing like the official ipad 1 case last year

timehunter said:
So, not perfect, but better than nothing.
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Agreed. I kinda like mine but would really prefer a slim well fitting leather folio. One nice feature of the case is it doesn't weigh much, so your tablet still feels very light in your hand, which is never the situation with a leather case.
The stand angle is definitely crap though - if I set it on my desk at work it invariably reflects the overhead lights into my eyes. The ability to adjust it even slightly would make that easier.
And agreed - the tablet sure moves around inside the case a lot considering how tight it fits.

the stand position is actually pretty nice for me. i use it at my desk at home (with lamp light, no overhead) so thats probably why i like it. but the only thing i dont like is the cheaply velcro used (seems to undo to easily, i would prefer magnets like a cell phone case) and the slipping out during use. other than that i like it

I've got one of these too, and I noticed that if the slightest bit of anything gets on it, it looks ugly. It was on a table when a bottle of soda got spilled, only a few drops hit it, and you can see exactly where those drops hit it at.
As far as the case goes, it would be a lot better if the flap was magnetic, and if there was something for it to catch on on the back when it's flat. It's obnoxious to have to deal with putting it into the stand shape when you're just holding it to check your e-mail.

netham45 said:
I've got one of these too, and I noticed that if the slightest bit of anything gets on it, it looks ugly. It was on a table when a bottle of soda got spilled, only a few drops hit it, and you can see exactly where those drops hit it at.
As far as the case goes, it would be a lot better if the flap was magnetic, and if there was something for it to catch on on the back when it's flat. It's obnoxious to have to deal with putting it into the stand shape when you're just holding it to check your e-mail.
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At least the case did its job and protected the tablet from your soda damage. Also, the case cleans pretty easily with a damp cloth.
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I have had the Acer case for a couple of weeks. It feels like wetsuit material. but does the job, and it is easy to wipe any dirt off it. I did cut a inverted 'V' so that the microphone was not obstructed.
All the ports are easy to get to but, nevertheless, exposed. So, I wanted a sleeve that I could slip the tablet into when placing it in my briefcase, and I found the attached at a store that sells Japanese goods (the case is actually from China.) See attached photo.
This fits the A500 in the Acer case very nicely, and good enough to take into a meeting.
The cost of the case: $1.50.
ps. The store is Daiso Japan and the item is Plastic Case (B5) 497 990 9845 486. Nothing unique about it and I am sure you can find similar ones around from other stores.

I bought this case and am not too thrilled about it. I already have an Arkon stand so the built-in stand function is kind of useless, and really just makes that side of the cover really flimsy. The case attracts too much "stuff" and degrades the look of the product and it doesnt fit like a glove as you'd think. I also dont like how it doesnt cover up the bottom of the A500 at all, nor the fact that if you dont use the stand fuction, the tablet has a tendency to fall out of the case, since its on "backwards."
that... and the smell... ugh.

Amazon has it on sale today for 29 bucks
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Iconia-A...14JA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1307123390&sr=8-2

second that on the smell i bought a 10 inch netbook bag today to replace the case

I have the official case and am about to ditch it for a folio style from ebay.
Not only does it look tatty when it is on, it's almost impossible to clean the screen with it on, as all the dust etc collects in the corners, and constant removal and replacement has stretched the opening so I now have the dreaded 'slide' effect.
In addition to this, obviously something abrasive has got between the screen and the case (still waiting for my screen protector to arrive) and put a tiny gouge in the screen on the black bezel near the docking connector - rather knocking on the head the assertion that this is covered in 'Gorilla Glass'.
And lets be honest, the Iconia is a beautiful looking bit of kit, and putting it in the official case makes it look rubbish.
In all, 30 quid wasted!

This case is pretty much garbage. I've had it as long as it's been out and here's the low-down...
When you get it, it reeks. I thought that the shipment of cases was accidentally dropped in a puddle of gasoline. But it turned out that was just from the material the case was made of. It did go away eventually though. It took about 30-40 days but now my case is reek-free.
The second problem was the slip issue. The tab slides down at about 3-4mm, which may not seem like a lot, but it's actually the perfect annoying amount. It causes the front camera to be blocked by the case itself, the speakers to not line up correctly, the bottom part of the front side of the case comes close to blocking you from using the task bar buttons efficiently, and the ambient light sensor is blocked. Some members on here have recommended double sided tape, but don't waste your time. It just slows the slipping down and it doesn't stick to well to the case material. Now I have an entire roll of Scotch double-sided tape that I will never use. However, I have found great success with heavy duty Velcro. I bought a pack with two strips from Staples and used half of one of the strips, cut into 2 and popped them on either side of the Acer logo on the back of the unit. It holds okay with the case material, creates just enough wedge pressure in the back, while allowing you to take the tablet out of the case if you really want to. My front camera and taskbar buttons have not been blocked at all since implementing this Velcro. One user here mentioned that they did some sewing and sewed the unit into the case at the opening and that works well. If my Velcro doesn't work as a more subtle solution long-term, I may go in that direction. I can't help but wonder if the case was made upside-down, would we have the slip problems at all (the opening is at the bottom when you hold it naturally).
The best thing about this case, though (and why I keep bothering to attempt to fix it) is that I love its stand features. The stand on the back is nice, and frankly, better than some of those ugly alternative bulky stands out there. I can stand it up on the table while sitting and eating, or flip it upside down and use the slighter stand to ramp it up just enough while laying down in bed.
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I bought this case a while back and have not had any problems with it. It's easy to clean with a damp cloth, and protects my tablet. I have not had any issues with my tablet slipping yet. The stand also seems to be stable enough for me. The one thing I did do though was remove the Velcro and glue two tiny rare earth magnets in their place. Now the case snaps shut and stays shut. I wish I could add one more magnet to keep the cover open when holding the tablet.

ReganH22 said:
I bought this case a while back and have not had any problems with it. It's easy to clean with a damp cloth, and protects my tablet. I have not had any issues with my tablet slipping yet. The stand also seems to be stable enough for me. The one thing I did do though was remove the Velcro and glue two tiny rare earth magnets in their place. Now the case snaps shut and stays shut. I wish I could add one more magnet to keep the cover open when holding the tablet.
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Since implementing the Velcro solution mentioned in my previous post, no interference from slipping! Recommend!

Yeah I might try the Velcro if I start having problems with it slipping.