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I have a MDA Vario. In SETTINGS --> TODAY --> ITEMS tab, what is "Today timeout", which is set at "4 hr" by default?? Does anyone know pls? I do not see any reference to it in the manual. Thx.
Tones
I think that's the amount of time after which it will return to the today screen if you left it with an app open and didn't touch it.
i tried it last night by leaving a game running, but it was still there when i got up the next day. it does seem to be the function u described, mate. Anyone else have any ideas pls?
A game will certainly work differently as it will request permanent focus and fullscreen. Just try with a standard app like calendar...
well, it was only a simple solitaire card game, but nonetheless I will try standard one like you suggested. But if this "timeout" function really is to return to TODAY screen, what is the real use of it? to timeout in 4 hours? and the longest possible time option is 12 hours.
Doesn't it simply stop refreshing the today screen (ie the clock and other values)?
It still refreshes the clock when you put it into sleep mode. However, after a number of hours it always takes some time for the clock to jump to the correct time.
It is the idle time before the Today screen is shown.
It's near useless, I almost always keep my today screen on anyway, because who wants to wait 4hours to see it
Use my TodayButton app if you want quick access to the Today screen...
V
personally, I always return to the TODAY screen anyway by shutting down applications after i'm done with them. I just thought this "timeout" thing was a sophisticated and useful function, but it turns out to be quite the opposite. But i will never understand why anyone want to design it to timeout in HOURS and not in minutes.
I'm the same, I shut down apps and always leave it on the Today screen!
V
vijay555 said:
Use my TodayButton app if you want quick access to the Today screen...
V
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Doesn't the Red button do that anyway?
Nah, red button minimises apps to leave them running in the background (I think it actually just switches to the today screen). Some don't mind this, but for me, if I want the app open, I'll open it, and when I want it closed, I want it closed.
VJOkButt allows you to use the red button to minimse or close, and also properly close the phone to save around 3mb memory. But it does this sympathetically with the phone, so if you're in the phone, it hangs up, but otherwise it's a minimiser.
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lolz
Morale of the story.... no one knows it. I always keep it disabled. So no big deal.
Had PDF softcopy of Reference Manual of my O2AL, and searched with no hint at all. Lets be it.....
I thought...
Guys,
I just stumbled upon this thread and thought it might be a good idea to get educated. I never knew it.
But this is what I thought - I thought it is the time slot to show appointments.
Means, if you chose a slot of 4 hours, and there are continuous meetings scheduled in your calender (and display of them enabled), then it would act like a rolling 4 hours window (read as slot).
Does this make sense? I never had so many appointmens, but always thought this was the use of it.
Comments please.
Hi,
lot of users had reported the Screen Bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_1BAiU_7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNv8FMy_mVU
This bug will popup your starmenu when:
- you are using "huge" thumb while tapping the display (xt9 sms writing for example)
- cpu is overheating (because it's near the diplay area)
I'm working to solve this issue via software.
Project moved to my website:
http://www.xiaprojects.com/?section...ols&action=HTC Trinity - P3600 Screen Bug Fix
Changelog:
0.0.10 Bugfix, now work on all WM6.1 themes and also new "Transparent" feature make it invisible! a good starting point to put TopBar by default in P3600 roms
thank you!
Sounds great! I have this problem so I would be keen to find a solution. Good luck and thanks in advance!
Exellent project.
Im testing now
Great program.
Since i've installed it, i have not been able to provoke the star menu poping up. Usually I could provoke it by randomly tapping the today screen, but not anymore...
This has been the most annoying bugs of the telephone, and i'm very happy that it seems to be fixed...
Thank you so very very much...
BeeBo
10x a lot stefanux ) i've started the TopBar program and tried it , wrote down a couple of e-mails and sms'es, and the start menu did not pop out even once , thank you again for your work
hmm.. i thought its a hardware issue? i used to have start menu problem.. sent in for screen replacement.. now my camera pops up from time to time ha..
ha! All this time I was wondering why my battery status kept popping up at random.. I never thought it was a screen problem. Maybe on my next disassembly I can sand down the bezel or something.
Stefano,
I am wandering if this program need to be place in the startup folder so that it will get started ? (please forgive me if you think this is a silly question).
Thanks for the great problem.
stefanux .... Thank you !!! although your intention was to let us capture the false pressure coordinate and feedback to you, somehow after running your little proggy, like the others i was not able to reproduce the start menu problem anymore. fyi, i did manage to reproduce the problem right before i start your little proggy.
will report again if the problem comes back after a soft reset Hopefully, this would make this most annoying problem go away.
again, thanks !
perfect
Hi,
good work, it just perfect for me, finally got rid of this only unbelievble bug.
thnks.
grate work
Excellent Tool! Thanks for posting it. Is there a way to prevent you from running it multiple times. Since you don't see anything on screen you are tempted to keep clicking on it - since your not sure its running. Maybe the second time you click it can popup saying its already running. But otherwise this thing rocks.
miata said:
stefanux .... Thank you !!! although your intention was to let us capture the false pressure coordinate and feedback to you, somehow after running your little proggy, like the others i was not able to reproduce the start menu problem anymore. fyi, i did manage to reproduce the problem right before i start your little proggy.
will report again if the problem comes back after a soft reset Hopefully, this would make this most annoying problem go away.
again, thanks !
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hi again, finally i manage to reproduce the start menu drop popup thingy. somehow, its harder to reproduce when your program is active.
However, manage to capture the coordinate of the fake pressure, 4 out of 4 time 0:0.
Hopefully this helps
omg, if this works..it will solve one of the biggest headaches (unfortunately, not all) i have with this phone!!!
Edit: Running this app and randomly touching the screen still results in the start menu popping up. I've noticed someone saying it works after a while. Does that mean this app takes some time before it can adapt to the pressures being applied at the start menu? Also, what is TopBar-diags.zip for?
Good !!!
miata said:
hi again, finally i manage to reproduce the start menu drop popup thingy. somehow, its harder to reproduce when your program is active.
However, manage to capture the coordinate of the fake pressure, 4 out of 4 time 0:0.
Hopefully this helps
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I'm searching for this!
later I will relase 0.0.3 thank you!
TotalNub said:
omg, if this works..it will solve one of the biggest headaches (unfortunately, not all) i have with this phone!!!
Edit: Running this app and randomly touching the screen still results in the start menu popping up. I've noticed someone saying it works after a while. Does that mean this app takes some time before it can adapt to the pressures being applied at the start menu? Also, what is TopBar-diags.zip for?
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Try 0.0.3 when ready, diags may help to find which coords are "fake"
I'm using the diag version. Oddly enough, even when the start menu pops up, the box where it displays the coords is still labeled with "Start!".
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I'm using the diag version. Oddly enough, even when the start menu pops up, the box where it displays the coords is still labeled with "Start!".
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try 0.0.3 and test if it fix the start menu....
hi stefano
just a minor feature request is it possible to fix the big for landscape screen orientation as well?
i notice another prob.. usually i ignore my alarm (default wm alarm) on my trin, but when i woke up in the morning, i can see the notification blinking between calendar & notification.. i'm annoyed with that problem.. is it normal?... can someone point me how fix that?..
Whenever I turn my phone on it shows an empty notification "bubble". Also in the top bar next to the G/3G icon is an extra icon, the one that shows up when you change keyboard input to numbers. It just stays there... Also the lower-left "softkey" turns to Notification instead of the usual Agenda.
I can only get rid of it by opening up a new sms/mms/email, because then the icon for t9/abc/numbers needs to be used, so it sort of refreshes the icon and it goes away when I exit the sms/mms/email.
Now I was just wondering if there's any way to fix this? It's bugging me, although not to a degree at which it would be frustrating, but still... I'd rather not have to go through the above mentioned steps everytime I turn my phone on.
I think it's too minor of a problem for flashing my phone. So, any suggestions on what to do? Thanks!
hi - tap start/ settings in personal tab tap "lock" untick box listed "prompt if device unused for" this sovled for me
Thanks! That worked. I'll leave it like this for the moment, but if there's a way without turning off the lock please let me know.
KrewCial said:
Thanks! That worked. I'll leave it like this for the moment, but if there's a way without turning off the lock please let me know.
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it's a known bug.
i haven't seen it since i flashed the niki project ROM.
Aww, ok.
Guess there isn't much else to do then. I'll wait for an HTC update.
(Anyone know when WM 6.1 will be here for the touch dual? )
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Aww, ok.
Guess there isn't much else to do then. I'll wait for an HTC update.
(Anyone know when WM 6.1 will be here for the touch dual? )
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Then Niki Project ROM runs WM6.1. Try it. I have it on my Niki and it's fantastic!
My X1 won't wake up to the panels, it wakes up to TF3D i have installed... is there a way to have it wake up to the 9 panel page? Like a cab, reg edit or something?
I've searched and haven't found anything...
Thanks in advance!
create a shortcut of panelmanager.exe in Program Files\PanelManager and put it in windows\startup
edit: noticed you said wake up...the solution i've posted should work when you turn the phone on. Not for wake up though.
yeah, thanks for the insight tho bro... id really like to see wake up in panels view...
If you want your phone to wake up to the panel you used the last:
When you are using S2U2 then switch off the option for "unlock to home".
Also uncheck Start --> Properties --> Today --> Elements --> show today screen after xxx hours.
If you want the phone to wake up into the "Panel selection screen" -this won't be possible, I fear.
found a partial work around... under backlight settings, i uncheck turn odd device after X minutes... that way, if i turn my backlight off when in 9 panel mode, it will always wake up to it... basically it will wake up where u left it! this will work for now til a real fix/tweak comes along
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found a partial work around... under backlight settings, i uncheck turn odd device after X minutes... that way, if i turn my backlight off when in 9 panel mode, it will always wake up to it... basically it will wake up where u left it! this will work for now til a real fix/tweak comes along
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I don't think that there will be a "fix" because there is no "issue".
The phone is not meant to wake up to the panel selection screen. This would be as if my home computer would boot to the taskmanager or I would enter a house through the elevator and not through the front door
I don't really want to know why you want your phone to wake up the the panel selection because I'm sure you have your reasons but you seem to be one in a million to like such a behaviour.
If I would have to choose a panel first everytime I wake up the phone to see the clock or the calender or the messages I would bring it back to the store the same day and buy another one.
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I don't think that there will be a "fix" because there is no "issue".
The phone is not meant to wake up to the panel selection screen. This would be as if my home computer would boot to the taskmanager or I would enter a house through the elevator and not through the front door
I don't really want to know why you want your phone to wake up the the panel selection because I'm sure you have your reasons but you seem to be one in a million to like such a behaviour.
If I would have to choose a panel first everytime I wake up the phone to see the clock or the calender or the messages I would bring it back to the store the same day and buy another one.
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well, i wear a wrist watch and tapping a panel to check messages isn't that big of a deal to me... and altho its not a "fix", it will be more of a "Tweak"...
But, i plan on taking a crack at creating my own panels (not sure how difficult it would be) and that way i can put specific programs to launch from panels, for example Opera or a specific media player...
All i can say is "to each his own" mah man....
maybe i feel this way because i've had a Touch Pro for a while now and am kind of tired of TF3D (altho it is nice to have on the X1), but i recieved this x1 as a generous bday gift from a friend today and am infatuated with these panels!
UPDATE
Now working but........
...You need to have ChangeScreen installed for this little app to work. I have included the cab at the end of the post.
I have updated the cab below.
The screen now turns off when the phone is face down and turns back on as you turn it over.
When the phone is face up normal operation is restored.
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Previous Release Notes
I put together this little APP after a post by Maverick777.
Install to your device and when you place the phone facedown the backlight will turn off.
When you flip the phone over the backlight will turn back on.
Hopefully, a few people will find this useful.
Thanks for this
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Apologies -Spoke too soon and too hastily - The basics are OK but the device stays on when the device is face up - Will fix and update tomorrow.
I put together this little APP after a post by Maverick777.
Install to your device and when you place the phone facedown the backlight will turn off.
When you flip the phone over the backlight will turn back on.
Hopefully, a few people will find this useful.
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You're AWESOME for making this.
Thanks a bunch. I will wait for your update.
Doesnt work for me
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Doesnt work for me
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I have updated the cab. I suspect it doesn't work because I did not realise you need to have ChangeScreen installed to make my little app work. I am a ROM Flash Junkie and after flashing a new ROM I tried hAndyFlip and it did not work. I had not put ChangeScreen in my auto setup and once installed it worked.
hAndyFlip reads the registry keys to establish the rotation of the device and at present the keys that dynamically change are created by ChangeScreen.
To be honest ChangeScreen is one of the cab's I install after every flash. I would give it a try whether of not you find hAndyFlip useful.
Thank you for this program. But I have a problem.
When you flip the phone over the backlight will turn back on.
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This doesn´t work. When I flip the phone, the display remains black.
The other way around (phone is face down) it´s o.k.
Is there something to set up? By the way, i didn´t find an icon of handyflip.
maximus1111 said:
Thank you for this program. But I have a problem.
This doesn´t work. When I flip the phone, the display remains black.
The other way around (phone is face down) it´s o.k.
Is there something to set up? By the way, i didn´t find an icon of handyflip.
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Have you installed ChangeScreen ?
I have it on my device and it works - in fact I now install it after each Flash.
The ICON is in \windows\startup
Would you prefer it in programs ? and maybe the option to toggle on/off ?
I deleted the shortcut in the autostart folder and made a shortcut by hand. I don't know why but now the program works as it should.
Would you prefer it in programs ? and maybe the option to toggle on/off ?
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I think it's ok how it is because you can "deactivate" it when you push the power button to turn the display off by hand.
Thank you,
Max
maximus1111 said:
I deleted the shortcut in the autostart folder and made a shortcut by hand. I don't know why but now the program works as it should.
I think it's ok how it is because you can "deactivate" it when you push the power button to turn the display off by hand.
Thank you,
Max
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Max,
Just realised that I made an error in the cab. The shortcut it creates is wrong ! That was the problem.
I'll recab it tonight and upate the first post.
Andy
Thank you, Andy!
Could it be that the application drains the battery? The battery has drained very fast although I haven´t used the phone (Touch HD) as much.
Has someone else noticed higher battery consumption?
Or maybe ChangeScreen is the culprit?
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Thank you, Andy!
Could it be that the application drains the battery? The battery has drained very fast although I haven´t used the phone (Touch HD) as much.
Has someone else noticed higher battery consumption?
Or maybe ChangeScreen is the culprit?
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Max, I've a feeling it maybe changescreen.
I'll do a bit of testing and come back to you.
I observed that that the cpu-usage of handyflip is very high (about 17-20%). So I deactivated it and now the battery consumption is normal (although changescreen is enabled).
maximus1111 said:
I observed that that the cpu-usage of handyflip is very high (about 17-20%). So I deactivated it and now the battery consumption is normal (although changescreen is enabled).
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I think I know what the issue is - when I'm sure it's solved \i'll let you know.
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I think I know what the issue is - when I'm sure it's solved \i'll let you know.
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Dahoarty,
Thanks for this very useful application. It works fine on my HD.
Looking forward for ur next version
This looks like a really useful app. Noticed though that the startup link is still broken and also high CPU usage as per previous posts. One request, when I turn face up and screen comes back on it doesn't just switch the screen on but it also takes me back to the home screen. Can it be adjusted so when I turn face up the screen light comes on only and it will still be in the program I was using (say music player etc).
Cheers
Barney
Barneyabz said:
This looks like a really useful app. Noticed though that the startup link is still broken and also high CPU usage as per previous posts. One request, when I turn face up and screen comes back on it doesn't just switch the screen on but it also takes me back to the home screen. Can it be adjusted so when I turn face up the screen light comes on only and it will still be in the program I was using (say music player etc).
Cheers
Barney
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Hi Barney,
I am working on a new version and I will try to include your request. Please bear with me.
Andy
waiting for update.
have there been any update? I really like the idea of the program, but it doesn workin on my tillt2
got it working.but
so I changed the path in the lnk file and got it working.. but it works a bit too well... it never allows the phone to go to sleep.. If I suspend the device and leave it perfectly still, it will stay suspended . if I move it at all, it wakes us.
I wonder if there is a way to only have the script fire if your phone is face down .. and then once it is face up, it doesnt run again till it is face down again..
I figure that is why the battery drains so much
thanks!
Nice little app - useful when you're listening to music. Thanks, I have been looking for something like this.