Hi,
lot of users had reported the Screen Bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_1BAiU_7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNv8FMy_mVU
This bug will popup your starmenu when:
- you are using "huge" thumb while tapping the display (xt9 sms writing for example)
- cpu is overheating (because it's near the diplay area)
I'm working to solve this issue via software.
Project moved to my website:
http://www.xiaprojects.com/?section...ols&action=HTC Trinity - P3600 Screen Bug Fix
Changelog:
0.0.10 Bugfix, now work on all WM6.1 themes and also new "Transparent" feature make it invisible! a good starting point to put TopBar by default in P3600 roms
thank you!
Sounds great! I have this problem so I would be keen to find a solution. Good luck and thanks in advance!
Exellent project.
Im testing now
Great program.
Since i've installed it, i have not been able to provoke the star menu poping up. Usually I could provoke it by randomly tapping the today screen, but not anymore...
This has been the most annoying bugs of the telephone, and i'm very happy that it seems to be fixed...
Thank you so very very much...
BeeBo
10x a lot stefanux ) i've started the TopBar program and tried it , wrote down a couple of e-mails and sms'es, and the start menu did not pop out even once , thank you again for your work
hmm.. i thought its a hardware issue? i used to have start menu problem.. sent in for screen replacement.. now my camera pops up from time to time ha..
ha! All this time I was wondering why my battery status kept popping up at random.. I never thought it was a screen problem. Maybe on my next disassembly I can sand down the bezel or something.
Stefano,
I am wandering if this program need to be place in the startup folder so that it will get started ? (please forgive me if you think this is a silly question).
Thanks for the great problem.
stefanux .... Thank you !!! although your intention was to let us capture the false pressure coordinate and feedback to you, somehow after running your little proggy, like the others i was not able to reproduce the start menu problem anymore. fyi, i did manage to reproduce the problem right before i start your little proggy.
will report again if the problem comes back after a soft reset Hopefully, this would make this most annoying problem go away.
again, thanks !
perfect
Hi,
good work, it just perfect for me, finally got rid of this only unbelievble bug.
thnks.
grate work
Excellent Tool! Thanks for posting it. Is there a way to prevent you from running it multiple times. Since you don't see anything on screen you are tempted to keep clicking on it - since your not sure its running. Maybe the second time you click it can popup saying its already running. But otherwise this thing rocks.
miata said:
stefanux .... Thank you !!! although your intention was to let us capture the false pressure coordinate and feedback to you, somehow after running your little proggy, like the others i was not able to reproduce the start menu problem anymore. fyi, i did manage to reproduce the problem right before i start your little proggy.
will report again if the problem comes back after a soft reset Hopefully, this would make this most annoying problem go away.
again, thanks !
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hi again, finally i manage to reproduce the start menu drop popup thingy. somehow, its harder to reproduce when your program is active.
However, manage to capture the coordinate of the fake pressure, 4 out of 4 time 0:0.
Hopefully this helps
omg, if this works..it will solve one of the biggest headaches (unfortunately, not all) i have with this phone!!!
Edit: Running this app and randomly touching the screen still results in the start menu popping up. I've noticed someone saying it works after a while. Does that mean this app takes some time before it can adapt to the pressures being applied at the start menu? Also, what is TopBar-diags.zip for?
Good !!!
miata said:
hi again, finally i manage to reproduce the start menu drop popup thingy. somehow, its harder to reproduce when your program is active.
However, manage to capture the coordinate of the fake pressure, 4 out of 4 time 0:0.
Hopefully this helps
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I'm searching for this!
later I will relase 0.0.3 thank you!
TotalNub said:
omg, if this works..it will solve one of the biggest headaches (unfortunately, not all) i have with this phone!!!
Edit: Running this app and randomly touching the screen still results in the start menu popping up. I've noticed someone saying it works after a while. Does that mean this app takes some time before it can adapt to the pressures being applied at the start menu? Also, what is TopBar-diags.zip for?
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Try 0.0.3 when ready, diags may help to find which coords are "fake"
I'm using the diag version. Oddly enough, even when the start menu pops up, the box where it displays the coords is still labeled with "Start!".
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I'm using the diag version. Oddly enough, even when the start menu pops up, the box where it displays the coords is still labeled with "Start!".
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try 0.0.3 and test if it fix the start menu....
hi stefano
just a minor feature request is it possible to fix the big for landscape screen orientation as well?
i notice another prob.. usually i ignore my alarm (default wm alarm) on my trin, but when i woke up in the morning, i can see the notification blinking between calendar & notification.. i'm annoyed with that problem.. is it normal?... can someone point me how fix that?..
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From time to time when I do some action on the touch screen the START menu open no reason.
It is happen with no special pattern or certain point touching the screen.
And also happen with 2 different devices with the original and with the new ROM version
Is it a familiar problem ?
Thanks
Ori
Same experience
something to do ?
or it is one of the Trinity Sicknesses ?
any body else have this annoying problem ?
Thanks
Ori
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any body else have this annoying problem ?
Thanks
Ori
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Got it (sometimes)
Yep, got it. But just sometimes
Thanks
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Ori
Hmz....peculiar problem... I ain't got it like this, but i got some other quirk that seems very close to this: every now and then when i want to single-tap an item to start it (in explorer for instance), the rotating dots show and a context menu opens (like tap-and-hold)... It even happens when i use hardwarekey (ie press enter) to activate item; it still reacts like tap-and-hold
Only every now and then though...
I guess the official ROM update takes so long because of the extensive bug-list they'll have to fix
This second problem seems more like a hardware problem with the way the screen reacts to stylus taps.
Here the solution,from an italian forum: http://www.solopalmari.com/smf/index.php/topic,14373.msg64849.html#msg64849
DavidTwister said:
Here the solution,from an italian forum: http://www.solopalmari.com/smf/index.php/topic,14373.msg64849.html#msg64849
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Quick translation of those pictures into english: the build quality of this device is awful so there will be more and more "weaknesses" discovered through normal "wear and tear", such as paint problems, screen problems, button problems, etc.
I swear I did not change any settings, but starting yesterday my Wing would just lock itself when the screen shuts off. Anyone know how to disable this? Thanks
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another odd thing I noticed - I don't have to unlock when the phone's charging. very weird.
what programs are you using? If you hold down the end key for a second, the phone will lock. Maybe you are accidentally bumping it when you put it in your pocket or case.
Sorry I wasn't more specific... I'm running ttran's OpenTouch 3.0. when I turn on the screen (using the power button) I need to press unlock twice to get to the main menu. It's annoying and I'd like to get rid of it. idk... I didn't change anything and it just randomly started happening yesterday. help?
I agree with you PharmacySchool...I'm running Ttran's 3.0 ROM myself and the "locked" feature pop-up on me this afternoon, out of the blue. It is very annoying and I'm not sure what caused it to start happening. Was getting an address out of the contacts list, X'ed out of contacts once finished, clicked the power button to turn the screen off...next time I went to use the phone, it magically was locked and has been since. A real pain to have to hit the unlock button twice just to use the phone. Have played around a little with it, but no success on correcting the problem yet.
Make sure you're not overclocking the phone. This can cause lock ups if the CPU overheats or if it doesn't get the required voltage or for other reasons.
The lock I'm referring to and I believe PharmacySchool...is like a "key lock". How some phones have an option to lock the keys so it can't accidentally call someone if numbers get pressed by mistake or while in your pants pockets. Nothing to do with the CPU or it being overheated. All you have to do is press the button to turn the screen light off and instantly turn it back on...it's locked. You have to hit the "unlock" button on the bottom left hand corner and the tap the unlock button on the screen. After doing such...you can once again use your phone.
I have the answer!!!
pharmacyschool said:
I swear I did not change any settings, but starting yesterday my Wing would just lock itself when the screen shuts off. Anyone know how to disable this? Thanks
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another odd thing I noticed - I don't have to unlock when the phone's charging. very weird.
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I'm pretty knew at this but I ran into the same problem and I figured out how to fix it. I don't know all the fancy wording so bare w/me. On your main screen touch and hold your battery symbol/ 6th option down says DeviceLock with a green check/ uncheck that **** and your good to go.
NOW someone PLEASEEEEE create a slide 2 "answer" not a slide 2 lock. I am so tired of my phone answering its self in my pocket when I don't want it to.
A_C 's S2U2 has a slide to answer feature..... You should check it out.
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A_C 's S2U2 has a slide to answer feature..... You should check it out.
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I've installed S2U2-0.2-WM5 with Touch It v2.3 and had problems. I think I remember it having a slide to answer but I also remember it answering with the green button as well. Maybe there was a way to disable it but I don't know how.
Does it work better Open Touch v3.0. because thats what I'm running now.
WOW... thats an OLD version.... that version should not have the slide to answer.....Current Version is 0.99p. It can be found in the development and hacking forum. You'll need to enable the S2A feature with the settings program...Man the apps come a LONG way since your version...We got animated gif support, Random still backgrounds, an exceptions list so voice dialers will work properly and internet browsers will stay alive... Just try the new version.
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I'm pretty knew at this but I ran into the same problem and I figured out how to fix it. I don't know all the fancy wording so bare w/me. On your main screen touch and hold your battery symbol/ 6th option down says DeviceLock with a green check/ uncheck that **** and your good to go.
NOW someone PLEASEEEEE create a slide 2 "answer" not a slide 2 lock. I am so tired of my phone answering its self in my pocket when I don't want it to.
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Midas, that fixed it. thanks a lot. I owe ya one.
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WOW... thats an OLD version.... that version should not have the slide to answer.....Current Version is 0.99p. It can be found in the development and hacking forum. You'll need to enable the S2A feature with the settings program...Man the apps come a LONG way since your version...We got animated gif support, Random still backgrounds, an exceptions list so voice dialers will work properly and internet browsers will stay alive... Just try the new version.
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NICE!!!!! Works good so far. Now I won't be divorced! LOL
Whenever I turn my phone on it shows an empty notification "bubble". Also in the top bar next to the G/3G icon is an extra icon, the one that shows up when you change keyboard input to numbers. It just stays there... Also the lower-left "softkey" turns to Notification instead of the usual Agenda.
I can only get rid of it by opening up a new sms/mms/email, because then the icon for t9/abc/numbers needs to be used, so it sort of refreshes the icon and it goes away when I exit the sms/mms/email.
Now I was just wondering if there's any way to fix this? It's bugging me, although not to a degree at which it would be frustrating, but still... I'd rather not have to go through the above mentioned steps everytime I turn my phone on.
I think it's too minor of a problem for flashing my phone. So, any suggestions on what to do? Thanks!
hi - tap start/ settings in personal tab tap "lock" untick box listed "prompt if device unused for" this sovled for me
Thanks! That worked. I'll leave it like this for the moment, but if there's a way without turning off the lock please let me know.
KrewCial said:
Thanks! That worked. I'll leave it like this for the moment, but if there's a way without turning off the lock please let me know.
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it's a known bug.
i haven't seen it since i flashed the niki project ROM.
Aww, ok.
Guess there isn't much else to do then. I'll wait for an HTC update.
(Anyone know when WM 6.1 will be here for the touch dual? )
KrewCial said:
Aww, ok.
Guess there isn't much else to do then. I'll wait for an HTC update.
(Anyone know when WM 6.1 will be here for the touch dual? )
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Then Niki Project ROM runs WM6.1. Try it. I have it on my Niki and it's fantastic!
I want to start this threat to put together information in order to sort out why the device lock delay (see below) appears and how to solve it.
wm6.5 device lock app has changed from "tap here and next there" to a slider style like app you know from s2u2.
problem:
device lock is enabled
Code:
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDeviceLockEnable=1
wake up the device by short pressing the power button
device lock screen is displayed instantly
it takes ~2 seconds until the slider of the device lock screen is activated and can be slided.
if you use device lock it becomes really annyoing.
there are some threads about this like this one, but the solution is not working on a Touch HD.
can anybody sched some light onthe problem why and where it appears or maybe someone already found a solution.
please post any useful information.
please do not post tips like use s2u2 or any other locking app - I do not want to use them.
the only thing i can thing of is use s2u2 or any other locking app
egoist6 said:
please do not post tips like use s2u2 or any other locking app - I do not want to use them.
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the only thing i can thing of is use s2u2 or any other locking app
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cookiemonster, either you didn't read his post or you're a sort of a jerk.
And yes, in response to the poster, I have the same problem.
Zoltair Wright said:
cookiemonster, either you didn't read his post or you're a sort of a jerk.
And yes, in response to the poster, I have the same problem.
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latest build 23001 still has this annoying delay
Iv noticed this too... The biggest annoyance for me is you turn the device on and the backlight isnt very bright, makes it near impossible to see the screen in daylight. Is it possible to have the backlight come on full when you press the power button?
i have this problem too. i think it is a serious bug of wm6.5
just hoping it will be fixed when the official release come out.
god i thought i was the only one, something about my config...
and i was exited about the new 6.5 lock screen,
but then it works like all the other M$ 6.5 sh!t, it doesn't
had to switch away from it
May be this help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527219
A1983 said:
May be this help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527219
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thanks for your help - but that was the solution i am talking about in my first post and unfortunately does not work.
also find this intensely annoying! if you look, on my hd, in the top left corner a small windows flag appears to indicate that the slider is locked, it disappears once the slider is active, and there is a definite exact time out, i dont think its random or a load time
hope this is sorted cos its rubbish!
regards
mat
What I've done that got rid of most of the delays regarding the lock screen on my Xperia:
I got 6 cpr files from my device's /Windows directory: LS_LockScene_xxxxxxx.cpr, LS_AlarmScene_xxxxxxx.cpr and LS_PhoneAlertScene_xxxxxxx.cpr. Get files that fit the resolution of your device, they are in pairs for portrait and landscape
opened each one of them in a text editor (they are XMLs inside)
removed all "ControlSequence" sections from them (those sections are small (like 4 entries) and big (up to 21 entries). These sections are animations of arrows. Arrows will still be there after that, they just won't animate.
uploaded cpr files back to /Windows, overwriting originals
soft-reseted.
Hope it works on your devices too
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also find this intensely annoying! if you look, on my hd, in the top left corner a small windows flag appears to indicate that the slider is locked, it disappears once the slider is active, and there is a definite exact time out, i dont think its random or a load time
hope this is sorted cos its rubbish!
regards
mat
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yeah. and with 6.5 23003 onwards in the top right corner an "X" (for close) appears. only when it goes off you can access the slider.
it seems as if an app is started.
pikipirs said:
What I've done that got rid of most of the delays regarding the lock screen on my Xperia:
I got 6 cpr files from my device's /Windows directory: LS_LockScene_xxxxxxx.cpr, LS_AlarmScene_xxxxxxx.cpr and LS_PhoneAlertScene_xxxxxxx.cpr. Get files that fit the resolution of your device, they are in pairs for portrait and landscape
opened each one of them in a text editor (they are XMLs inside)
removed all "ControlSequence" sections from them (those sections are small (like 4 entries) and big (up to 21 entries). These sections are animations of arrows. Arrows will still be there after that, they just won't animate.
uploaded cpr files back to /Windows, overwriting originals
soft-reseted.
Hope it works on your devices too
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great. that helped a lot!
now the lock screen is flickering shortly and the whole lock screen slides in once more from the bottom to the top but then the slider is instantly accessible.
from a time perspective a great improvement!
update:
basically you can delete the whole layer
Code:
<Layer ID="SlidePath" >
...
</Layer>
which removes the animation of the arrows and the arrows themselves.
do not delete this section if you do not know in which direction to slide the button
however, the delay is still ~1 second. but i think i can live with that allthough it is annoying to wait one stupid second to proceed
the delay you get when recieving a call with lockscreen on is caused by the slide to answer feature of alot of the new dialers. it conflicts with the popup call answer screen with wm 6.5. to fix this can find a dialer that doesnt have slide to answer feature. the backlight problem came from backlight.dll in the kaiser, using a new one from stock rom now and it works perfect
If you enable the enter a pin number after slide, there is no delay at all. I know this isnt a solution i hate entering a pin. however, i have a felling the pin app is running in the background and thus you dont get the flicker where it flicks from Start menu back to the lock app. Hence if you could create a dummy pin app, it could work to stop the delay.
twopumpchump said:
the delay you get when recieving a call with lockscreen on is caused by the slide to answer feature of alot of the new dialers. it conflicts with the popup call answer screen with wm 6.5. to fix this can find a dialer that doesnt have slide to answer feature. the backlight problem came from backlight.dll in the kaiser, using a new one from stock rom now and it works perfect
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thanks for your reply. but i also have the delay when simply waking up the device by pressing the power button (without receiving a call)
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If you enable the enter a pin number after slide, there is no delay at all. I know this isnt a solution i hate entering a pin. however, i have a felling the pin app is running in the background and thus you dont get the flicker where it flicks from Start menu back to the lock app. Hence if you could create a dummy pin app, it could work to stop the delay.
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that's true. i replaced LS_SimplePinScene_480x800.cpr with an empty one and allthough not using pinlock, the lock app did not work at all.
What if we designed something where when you slide it calls a mortscript or something and enters 0000+OK to by pass the pin screen (assuming you set pin to 0000). Then you edit the Pin screen so it is just a clear page, so you dont even see the pin screen flash up.
Not sure if this is at all possible as im not a programmer. Just a thought
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What if we designed something where when you slide it calls a mortscript or something and enters 0000+OK to by pass the pin screen (assuming you set pin to 0000). Then you edit the Pin screen so it is just a clear page, so you dont even see the pin screen flash up.
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good idea. maybe someone can change LS_SimplePinScene_480x800.cpr so that it does not expect the pin from screen but is embedded directly into the cpr file?
can anybody who has a better understanding of cpr files or the lock app give us some tips?
xternal said:
Not sure if this is at all possible as im not a programmer. Just a thought
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me neither
Hi there just wondering if anyone had/has this problem and knows how to fix it. Basically when i go to reply to a text message by clicking on it (from inside TouchFlo) the keyboard appears, then dissapears. When i click on the box to type, the keyboard comes up, then jumps back down. I have to press the 'Keyboard' button when the keyboard is down (to bring it up) then type somthing (which doesn't appear) and then press space...to even start typing anything. It's really odd, i've tried re-flashing both stock and a few other ROM's...same wierd problem...anyone?
THANKS!
I also have the same problem. If i double tap a message from within touchflo there is no problem but if i tap it once i have the keyboard problem. It has been bugging me for a while as well! Although it's not major, if anyone has a fix it would be much appreciated.
haha it's really annoying the double clicking things doesnt work for me...anyone got a fix? also what rom are you running? thanks
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talking to some of my friends, i've realised that this happens on general windows mobile, not just this phone, therefore i will re-post in order to gain more publicity. Thanks
Fortunately for me, everything is working fine, as in the manuals, even after using this set for over a year now. When I click "reply" from within TF, it automatically gives a text/message typing area and a keyboard area at the bottom half which stays there. I can drop the keyboard down (and up) by tapping (once) the keyboard icon at the bottom centre. no problem.
ha! it's lucky for some! What ROM are you using? Thanks
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ha! it's lucky for some! What ROM are you using? Thanks
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Stock ROM ver: 1.40.707.2 (21259) date 24/10/08
hi just wondering if anyone has managed to fix this, it is getting REALLY annoying now ahha thanks