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hi... i`m new here... i have a question...
if i flash or unlock to be available to all networks an Orange SPV M700 i`ll lost my warranty from it?

I'm not a lawyer or anything but I'm pretty sure that you void your warranty flashing your device, provided that you're not a certified support representative. Also you risk turning your device into an expensive brick.
My 2 cents....
laudanum

laudanum said:
Also you risk turning your device into an expensive brick.
laudanum
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While it's important for anyone to realise that not correctly flashing a phone can brick it and flashing with a bad ROM can do the same I'm sure many agree with me that there is no point scaremongering, either.
I have surely invalidated my warranty by flashing my phone and SIM unlocking it. Currently I flash a new ROM every week or so, to test and report problems with WM6 ROMS to encourage and help development.
Must have flashed my Trinity 30 times.
It is far from an expensive brick...still
If you're curious enough, you'll just hope that go ahead and flash. If you're going to go down the SIM unlock - I would recommend using this first: http://server2.dimonvideo.ru/uploads/public/users/lvsw/Trinity/HardSPL/Hard-SPL.zip
this is "Hard-SPL" and will enable you to use hardward buttons to go into bootloader and reload a ROM even if an upgrade fails - thereby rendering your phone virtually "unbrickable".

Great advice. But I don't think he was trying to scare anyone, just warn them. Friendly warnings are ALWAYS helpful.
Also, an important item to note, another benefit of using HardSPL is you can get your phone back to "spec" if you need to send it in for warranty repair. So warranty woes are all but gone.
nealed said:
While it's important for anyone to realise that not correctly flashing a phone can brick it and flashing with a bad ROM can do the same I'm sure many agree with me that there is no point scaremongering, either.
I have surely invalidated my warranty by flashing my phone and SIM unlocking it. Currently I flash a new ROM every week or so, to test and report problems with WM6 ROMS to encourage and help development.
Must have flashed my Trinity 30 times.
It is far from an expensive brick...still
If you're curious enough, you'll just hope that go ahead and flash. If you're going to go down the SIM unlock - I would recommend using this first: http://server2.dimonvideo.ru/uploads/public/users/lvsw/Trinity/HardSPL/Hard-SPL.zip
this is "Hard-SPL" and will enable you to use hardward buttons to go into bootloader and reload a ROM even if an upgrade fails - thereby rendering your phone virtually "unbrickable".
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ok..thanks for advices
but if i go to unlock my sim to a certified support ? i`ll lost my warranty ?

If you just want a SIM unlock, and are willing to pay for that, it won't invalidate the warranty. The best tool for that is IMEICheck which costs £20 and includes full CID unlocking for when you want to update the ROM to a non-OEM version.
Flashing with a new Radio or OS ROM will invalidate. Some of the 'free' unlock tools work by flashing the radio ROM, thereby invalidating the warranty in the process.

ok tnx guyz i understand tnx again for help

Can I install R3AA + Touch X 9.0 ?

I was planning on installing R3AA..
and there was this cool Touch X 9.0 rom to..
can they be installed together on same device?
& will installing these roms uhm dunno how to say.. lose my waranty?

I think Touch 9.0 includes the stuff from R3AA, not really sure.
However, they can't be installed on the same device.
They are ROMs and will remove everything else on that device when flashing.
Flashing with a custom ROM (like touch 9) will void your warranty.
This is because you use Hard SPL. Just install the stock SPL if you want to get your warranty "back".
There's alot more info in the ROMs section.

ah so there is a way to get warranty back if I go with the touch 9.0 thingy
BUT, the R3AA Dutch one i'm going to install won't void my waranty?
cuz at installation it says something about unlock HTC '

That is correct. You can get the warranty "back", if you put the stock-SPL back.
Since the R3AA Dutch is an official ROM from SE, you won't void it.
Making this simple: use hard-SPL = void warranty. use stock-SPL = warranty OK.

ROM, warranty as well and app question?

HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
Cheers

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Technically a ROM chip is just that- a Read Only Memory chip that holds fixed information.
In Windows Mobile (and general phone) terms, the ROM has come to mean the software (or firmware) that is loaded into the ROM chip. So, for the HD2, if you look in Device Information you will see a ROM version. For release this was 1.43, but HTC have since released V1.48 and there are some engineering samples of V1.61 around as well.
Flashing the phone means the process of installing a new ROM image into the ROM chip. Official versions are executed using a ROM Update Utility (RUU) while the phone is connected to the PC, but 'cooked' versions are more often executed from the memory card.
In general, you can only update the ROM with one designed for that phone unless you make some changes to the BIOS, which involves installing a sub-program called Hard SPL. Once that is installed, you can then update the phone with any compatible ROM. Currently there is no Hard SPL available for the HD2, but the specialists are working on it
In the meantime there is a workaround to allow the loading of official ROM images from other locales or operators, but again this needs some specific changes being made to the memory card from which it is loaded.
The warranty situation is far from clear. Technically you should only update a device with a ROM image supplied by the operator, or by HTC if it was bought SIM free; however, the HD2 has been supplied pretty much the same as SIM free models by Vodafone and O2. Vodafone contradict themselves in their advice- one paragraph says you can install an 'official' update, but another paragraph says you can't.
Installing cooked ROMs (when they become available) would definitely invalidate any warranty.

snerkler said:
HI,
I keep reading questions about ROM and flashing the phone, can someone explain what ROM is and flashing the phone please? I have tried search on this forum and get no answers. I have googled ROM and it tells me that it is a permanent storage chip, but if that's the case how come there are upgrades and why do people talk about erasing them?
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Think of the ROM as the operating system of the phone. Both the software itself and the memory chips it is stored on are called ROM, but when you see people discussing ROMs here they will generally mean the software. So the software ROM (ie operating system) is stored on the phones ROM (ie Read Only Memory). It's called read only, but it's not - it can be erased and a new software ROM flashed to it.
snerkler said:
Also, I've read that in the UK only ROM upgrades supplied by the service provider are allowed without invalidating warranty. If that's the case does this mean that you can't fiddle/tweak the phone without losing the warranty, or is there still plenty of tweaking you can do?
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If you bought your phone from a service provider, they will have locked the ability to upgrade the ROM, to ensure that you can only install official upgrades issued by them. This is why many people are waiting for Hard SPL to be completed, as it removes this lock. However, you can tweak your phone and and install as much software as you want without affecting your warranty.
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Finally, with UK phones can you still use apps and cabs from sites like this or would that invalidate warranty as well?
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You can install all the apps and cabs you like without affecting your warranty. A simple hard reset will always return the phone to its 'fresh out of the box' state.
Installing HardSPL and custom roms will invalidate your warranty, but tweaks and cab files won't.
edit - Neil, you beat me to it

My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.

omneity said:
My previous phone, an O2 Xda Orbit 2 had a custom ROM and was twice repaired under warranty without problem or question from O2, although both these were hardware related problems.
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I guess you were lucky - many people have had their warranty voided by HTC and/or a telco for having custom firmware installed.

Many thanks for the advice, very helpful

Do cabs void my warranty / insurance?

If for some reason I have to send my phone back to tmo for replacement can I just hard reset my phone and send it back with no problems. Still got the stock ROM. How does warranty tie into the insurance?
I have several cabs installed onto my phone including bsb tweaks and cookies something.
T-Mobile USA

Umm.. of course not. If cabs voided your warranty then that would mean that any software you installed to your phone would void the warranty which is silly. That being said changing the stock ROM might cause an issue so putting the stock ROM back would probably be wise if sending it back to t-mobile for some reason.

even a cooked rom shouldnt be an issue. Its HSPL that voids warranties.

According to the warranty terms, installing cabs (programs) does not void the warranty, but flashing a non stock ROM does.
Now, with that said if your phone is bricked and will not boot T-mobile would probably replace it under warranty. I can not guarantee it but I know the with bricked android devices i have seen sent in they have not gotten returned or charged the out of warranty fee, even after being rooted.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

even HSPL will not void your warranty if your smart, all you have to do is just remove it and flash back to the stock ROM and your good to go for replacements, warranty etc etc. I had to do that a few devices ago when I needed a replacement.

Transition from XPERIA to HD2

Im used to flashing XPERIA X1. I did id 100 times.
I just saved enough money to buy myself HD2 which is very expensive in Bosnia.
So i want to be very carefull with it. Im sorry for opening a new topic but try to understand me. LOL.
What is the major differences between flashing X1 (kovsimg.nbh) and HD2
Is it like XPERIA and the first flash via USB so you can later use kovsimg.nbh files on MicroSD for new ROMS.
What are the risks??

No its not too different,if I were you wouldnt think of flashing from the SD/Card, for now,its always safer to do it by active Sinc with your PC,its better to forget the Xperia and start from scratch,its very easy once you put together the bits and pieces,and welcome to the forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=534
this is a good place to start with,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
With this thread,
and dont forget that you can also get Android to work on your HD2 from your SD card.
good luck

hagba said:
No its not too different,if I were you wouldnt think of flashing from the SD/Card, for now,its always safer to do it by active Sinc with your PC,its better to forget the Xperia and start from scratch,its very easy once you put together the bits and pieces,and welcome to the forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=534
this is a good place to start with,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
With this thread,
and dont forget that you can also get Android to work on your HD2 from your SD card.
good luck
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Thanks. Its always good to see non-arogant people on internet who want to help.
Android will be important part of my HD2. Having two systems on one phone is great. I used android on my X1 but versions for X1 are still far away from beeing usable for everyday work.
Main reason for flashing ROM on my NEW HD2 is becouse of special WM ROM for HD2 which enables low battery consumption for Android.
Thanks again. And if anyone have something to add...please do so.
P.S. I flashed my X1 lots of times with microSD method and i did not have a single problem. But if you say activesync method is better than i shall do it via USB.

Xperia although branded as a Sony ericsson Device is really made by HTC. (HTC Kovsky) So the flashing process is more or less identical. Flash HSPL and then your custom Roms.

OK another Questin. My X1 was without warranty.
My HD2 is Vodafone branded (no idea why), there is no vodafone in Bosnia. I have 12 months warranty not with vodapfone but with local mobile shop.
Does flashing vodafone update changes serial number or warranty
And does flashing custom ROMs changes warranty. I guess it does.

Other question...does flashing custom rom changes Serial or IMEI number???
Before it was not important to me. But now it is.

Flashing does not change imei number but I think it does void the warranty if you flash a custom spl.
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I now. But in my warranty paper they is specific "serial number must not be changed"
Flashing is not changing IMEI, but is it changing SERIAL NUMBER???

Nope, flashing your phone will not change your IMIE or your phone's serial number, and even if flashing it would void your warranty, bringing it back to stock condition (just like it is now) is no harder than flashing a ROM.
So as far as warranty, not much to worry about
Like a previous poster said though, read everything
Then read it again
Then have fun flashing !!!

huggs said:
Nope, flashing your phone will not change your IMIE or your phone's serial number, and even if flashing it would void your warranty, bringing it back to stock condition (just like it is now) is no harder than flashing a ROM.
So as far as warranty, not much to worry about
Like a previous poster said though, read everything
Then read it again
Then have fun flashing !!!
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THX. When you say its not harder than flashing. Do you mean backing up your ROM and flashing it or flashing original ROM.

you can install back your original Stock SPL,check here for HSPL thread and look for HSPL2_Run.EXE this will restore the original SPL,after that Download your original Stock ROM fro HTC support website with your S/N and flash it from your computer by connecting through USB and active Sync,this way you are back to your stock phone.

hagba said:
you can install back your original Stock SPL,check here for HSPL thread and look for HSPL2_Run.EXE this will restore the original SPL,after that Download your original Stock ROM fro HTC support website with your S/N and flash it from your computer by connecting through USB and active Sync,this way you are back to your stock phone.
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Thank you all. You can consider this topic finished. I flashed HSPL3 and EnergyROM with latest Radio. Everything works.
If phone breaks in future i will then think about flashing stock stuff.
Thanks again to all of you.