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Horrible Video Playback

I recently switched from a treo 650 to a 8125 and have come to discover that the video playback on the 8125 is not even watchable. The first thing i put on was a SNL skit which seemed to play decently although it didnt look like the mouths were always moving with the words. I then installed TCPMP since it is what i used on my treo and it supports more formats since i use a mac and my music is usually aac while my videos are mp4. I have a lot of dvds converted into ipod format which are already 320x240 which is what the treo needs as well. I use handbrake to convert them and the bit rate usually ends up at around 130-150 while the file size is usually around 500mb. These videos play fine on my ipod and treo but when i go to play them in TCPMP they are extremely jerky and it is not even possible to watch it. I tried the same SNL skit in TCPMP and it played back a lot worse than WMP. I tried adjusting all the settings i could in TCPMP with no improvements. I also shut down all of the programs except TCPMP and that didnt help either. I was hoping video playback would be smooth since it has such a nice screen on it but as of now its just a big dissapointment. If there is a solution to this i would really appreciate some input. Thanks a lot
Ty

hi
maybe the problem is with tcpmp because it also happen in my blueangel. it support alot of format its just that it doesnt play them very well.

TCPMP
Hi there,
I use TCPMP extensively to watch full feature movies and it runs as smooth as silk. I use pocketdivxencoder to convert AVI's which is freeware, just do a google. I also use imtoodvdripper to rip dvd vob files to AVI format which I then convert with pocketdivxencoder to ppc format. and VOILA!!!! I hope this helps you. Let us know.
Cheers,
MAC

Get the overclocker and set the clock to 252 or 264 before watching the movie. It helps tremendously.

U need to convert them, if you just play a regular 700mb avi movie it wont work but once you convert it to pocket divx its fine

500 MB is kind of large for a QVGA movie...perhaps you're doing it wrong...I use 3GP to batch encode episodes and they come out 125-250MB each. Plays fine on TCPMP with other stuff running.

mp4 files from v-mate - Windows Media 10 and TCMP AAC issue

I have just bought a v-mate from Scandisk.
http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(2171)-SDVM1-A-SanDisk_VMate_Video_Memory_Card_Recorder_.aspx
This device creates mp4 files from TV (etc) input on to an SD disk which in theory can be played directly on any mp4 player.
However, having created the files tonight I can't get them to play properly on either Windows Media 10 for PC Mobile or TCPMP on my Universal.
If I open with Windows Media Player 10 Mobile for Pocket PC. It just plays the audio and not the video.
If I try and open it with TCPMP (0.72RC1) I get the following error message:
"Player: MPEG4 AAC Audio decoder not included! It was removed from the package because of intellectual property considerations". If I get rid of this message and tap 'play' it then plays the video file such that the video is fine but there is no sound.
It plays other MP4 files fine (eg ones I have made with the camera itself).
Clearly the file has audio and video information, but neither WMP 10 for mobile or TCPMP can play both. I suspect this is not a v-mate issue but rather something about WMP 10 or TCPMP.
Any suggestions guys? I have looked on the forums but can't see anything on this.

just install plugins (will install the right codecs in thecoreplayer)
i play mp4 psp movies with them on my universal (works great )

Result!
Cheers Mate, worked first time - I am sure it's all obvious to you and other experienced users, but this has sorted me out splendidly.

I had the same issue with TCPMP not playing the MP4 files, got the same message saying the decoder was removed from the application. Loaded the two CAB files that were posted but still get the same message. Do I have to change anything in TCPMP to use the plugins for MP4 files?

Roy_S said:
I had the same issue with TCPMP not playing the MP4 files, got the same message saying the decoder was removed from the application. Loaded the two CAB files that were posted but still get the same message. Do I have to change anything in TCPMP to use the plugins for MP4 files?
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Which version of TCPMP do you use?
Try de-installing and installing.
Or even better
Try "Coreplayer" (this is the newest from tcpmp)
but sadly enough not free
(with a little search you can find reg/fix)
Wout

Problems playing .avi on my Touch HD

Hi I've just received my HD and overall I'm very impressed. I was a smartphone user previously so I’m having to come to terms with TouchFlo and Windows Mobile all at the same time!
The only real problem I’m having is playing .avi video. I've transferred an .avi file to my memory card but it won't play in CorePlayer (need the AC3 codec I think) and TCPMP doesn't load (get a crash screen) and mobile divx plays the video but it’s a mess on the screen.
I've even tried to encode the video file with PocketDivXEncoder but I think this needs TCPMP to play and it looks terrible in Mobile Divx.
So my question is how do I successfully play an .avi as this is one of the main reasons I bought my HD.
Also one further question with appointments in the calendar when I get a reminder the notification pop up doesn't appear till I click on the alarm icon at the top of the screen - is this due to touchflo and can you force WM6.1 to always show the notification - I’m finding I’m forgetting about meetings because of this!
Thanks in advance of your help.
JM

I've tried playing avi (divx) files with great success. I have been using CorePlayer (v1.2.5). Maybe you should try another video file? it should work

Interesting - are you using a special codec with that or just the player?

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Interesting - are you using a special codec with that or just the player?
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I now see your problem, I had originally tried only avi movies with mp3 audio (like most of my videos). I tested it with a file with AC3 audio and it appears that CorePlayer doesnt have that codec.
Guess your only option with movies with AC3 audio is to convert them, or you might be able to get an AC3 codec somewhere.

So is there a way of converting my video into avi + mp3 rather than AC3 as it sounds like that would sort my problem?

JetMouse said:
So is there a way of converting my video into avi + mp3 rather than AC3 as it sounds like that would sort my problem?
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You could try the freeware video converter program 'SUPER'.
SUPER allows you to convert easily many aspects of a video including size, frame rate, format of video and audio, etc.
I use it all the time to convert my camera videos for use with my Hard Drive TV Media Player.
Don't try and download it from the developers web site it's a minefield in how to get the program.
Instead get it direct from Download.com here:-
http://www.download.com/Super-Video-Converter/3000-2194_4-10277613.html
Beards

I'm about to buy a Touch HD and was wondering if someone can confirm that it can playback video files (.avi) that can be found around the web (e.g. tv shows, movies and such) smoothly without conversion. (just transfer and play)?

yes please, can handle a typical rip of 350mb tv show or 700mb movie without problems?

Insaneboy said:
I'm about to buy a Touch HD and was wondering if someone can confirm that it can playback video files (.avi) that can be found around the web (e.g. tv shows, movies and such) smoothly without conversion. (just transfer and play)?
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It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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Could you share the FPS and bitrate please?

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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This is exactly whay i'm trying to do - can you tell me which video player you used?

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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How did you manage that, mines plays the videos but they are jerky, seems like it's caching the film. I've even tried same file on iphone & hd, iphone was much smoother. what am i doing wrong??
Peter.

I've got to agree here with edwardscdr. I have no problem whatsoever in playing .avi files using Core Player 1.2.5
I believe the problem that others are having is down to what software and system associated files individuals have installed on their Phone. These could be effecting the performance of the playback.
It's a bit extreme but one sure way of finding out the problem is to hard reset the device and install ONLY Core Player (I personally did this when I first received my Touch HD).
Next transfer a video/movie file and play it........ Do you notice any improvements?
If so then at least you know it's down to what was previously installed.
To then eliminate the culprit that was causing the problem is to install software titles one-by-one and on each occasion check the playback of the video.
When it changes and no longer runs smoothly then BANG.... you have your culprit.
Beards

its the ac3, core player can't play it
i wish i can convert the audio via super...

sound can be changed, the audio codecs will show different results when using a different container, im just used to the .mp4 container so i didnt see an audio codec change to mp3

AC3 will play on the old TCPMP beta, the screen is buggy (missing buttons etc) but it does work. If you set up file extensions (in the options settings in both apps) to play on different media players you won't have any trouble (eg: AC3 plays on TCPMP, divx/xvid plays very well on Coreplayer).
The only videos i have trouble playing are in the H264 codec, but that's not a surprise as it is an advanced codec that can make some older desktops slow down.
As far as I am aware, the only media player that takes advantage of hardware acceleration is the built in media player with the HD. For optimum video playback you'd probably want to convert your video files with a third party app into mp4, BUT as an experienced heavy user of video files I find that a combo of Coreplayer, TCPMP and the built in player works just fine for nearly all occasions.
Hope this helps.

the videos are kinda bit pixelated also in tcpmp, the play buttons are center below but u cant see them until u click them ahha

Touch HD Movie Player - Best?

Hi All,
I have tried searching for MP4 and AVI in the forums, but search results came up with nada.
Can someone please assist me with the BEST movie player for the Touch HD and how to encode the files?
I am currently using Slysoft CloneDVD Mobile. I selected Windows Smartphone as my encoding template, loaded the DVD, and built the AVI file. All went good.
I then copied it across to my Touch HD and tried to play it in WMP but get an error "Cannot play file" without any further details.
Any ideas people?
TIA

Sounds like a missing codec problem to me. i had the same with playing xvid movies. i use tcpmp player now instead of wmp, but am looking for a nicer prog.

I find Coreplayer to be the best using the DivX converter set to Mobile for compressing. It will compress most files and even convert AC3 files for use.
The playback is smooth whereas the actual DivX mobile and old TCPMP players seem to have a 1 second slight glich in playback (shown when a video is panning across a scene).
I have also found that if you use a File Explorer with Network access such as Resco Explorer, you can set the default player to be Coreplayer and play these files from any Network drive. I use an ASUS WLHDD2.5 small wireless hard drive with 100Gb capacity and can store loads of Music, movies and photos on it.
Ensure that Coreplayer can actually play the file type first or an error will occur.
Map your Network drive in Resco Explorer (follow the distructions..)
Select and hold the file to play in Resco, select open, Open with and then select Coreplayer.
Viola.

you might want to try the blackstone video encoding gui (search on this forum) to convert movies to mp4 and then play them via windows media player or tf3d video player. To date, those two players are the only ones capable of playing video using hardware acceleration

I use MP4forHD encoder software. Very good and clip quality very good. Playback using default Album player that comes with THD.

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nagging said:
Try the attached CorePlayer 1.3.0. No need to encode files, it reads them all, works perfectly. Enjoy.
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is this a trial version , if not please remove it as its against the XDA rules

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nagging said:
Try the attached CorePlayer 1.3.0. No need to encode files, it reads them all, works perfectly. Enjoy.
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No acceleration though, so you have to encode to much lower quality.

nagging said:
Try the attached CorePlayer 1.3.0. No need to encode files, it reads them all, works perfectly. Enjoy.
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Sorry, but main problem is that CorePlayer will not play movies with AC3 sound (5.1). A lot of new movies have 5.1 sound.

blabla
i love and hate AC3 at the same time

hi, have you seen this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474955
its a handy little prog that makes very good conversion and plays exellently in the htc player.

yes yes
nagging said:
Try the attached CorePlayer 1.3.0. No need to encode files, it reads them all, works perfectly. Enjoy.
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it works
thanks man

gregy74 said:
Sorry, but main problem is that CorePlayer will not play movies with AC3 sound (5.1). A lot of new movies have 5.1 sound.
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And do you have 5 ears with 5 headphones?
What is the point for having 5.1 on a mobile device, it's not like you can output to TV anyways.

The point is to watch existing movies with AC3 soundtracks without spending hours to reconvert them first.

No .avi files playable?

Hi,
I have some .avi files on my Leo, but can't play them with standard Windows Media Player Portable. HTC player doesn't even show the files in the album view, so I can't add them to playlist.
Isn't Leo supposed to play .avi files? (Leo with WM6.5 and 1.48 ROM. Files on 16 GB FAT32 storage card.)
Properties of one avi file (for example):
350 MB
640 x 480 pixel
data rate: 996 kBit/s
total bit rate: 1122 kBit/s
25 fps
2 channel stereo sound
48 kHz, 126 kBit/s
Can someone help?
Thanks!
the_at
PS: If I convert the files to .mp4 with a program on my PC, Leo does play them. But I don't want to convert every single file (about 20 min. each)... Please help!

You need a different player to play avi files.
Try the suggestion in this post, particularly paying attention to the settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5276685&postcount=2
Hope this helps

Wow, thanks for that fast reply!
I tried TCPMP before. And got some sort for error, player wouldn't even start. However, I tried the version you suggest again. The avi video isn't played properly (mostly just a green screen, artifacts...), the GUI doesn't show up correctly and after closing the player my Leo crashes (softreset).
Any other suggestions?
(BTW: Isn't there a solution without having to install a new player? Like an update or registry edit for the Windows Media Player? Afterall Leo should support avi files natively...
Thanks!!
the_at

the_at said:
Wow, thanks for that fast reply!
I tried TCPMP before. And got some sort for error, player wouldn't even start. However, I tried the version you suggest again. The avi video isn't played properly (mostly just a green screen, artifacts...), the GUI doesn't show up correctly and after closing the player my Leo crashes (softreset).
Any other suggestions?
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You're welcome
Did you check the settings, as per that post that I linked you to? They work perfect for me, and the problems you described suggest that you didn't. Change the settings and then close the player. When you open it again it should play fine. (You need a succesful close to save the settings changes, which is why I suggest this.)
the_at said:
BTW: Isn't there a solution without having to install a new player? Like an update or registry edit for the Windows Media Player? Afterall Leo should support avi files natively...
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I'm afraid not - there's no native support for avi files (well, there may be for some encoding formats, or for raw avi files, but most avi files are encoded in a manner that requires you to have codecs installed on a PC to play, and obviously that's not windows mobile. Installing TCPMP means that you have a player with relevant codecs.)
Hope this helps

AVI is just the container, depends on what that AVI was encoded with as to WMP playing it or not...
TCPMP / Core player are very good players if set up properly.

Thanks to you guys!!
TCPMP is now working. Great! However, there is still one bug. Buttons next to "file" and "options" are not visible (eg. play, pause, next ..). They become visible for a slip second when I click them, but... Anyone knows a way around?
Thanks,
the_at