mp4 files from v-mate - Windows Media 10 and TCMP AAC issue - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

I have just bought a v-mate from Scandisk.
http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(2171)-SDVM1-A-SanDisk_VMate_Video_Memory_Card_Recorder_.aspx
This device creates mp4 files from TV (etc) input on to an SD disk which in theory can be played directly on any mp4 player.
However, having created the files tonight I can't get them to play properly on either Windows Media 10 for PC Mobile or TCPMP on my Universal.
If I open with Windows Media Player 10 Mobile for Pocket PC. It just plays the audio and not the video.
If I try and open it with TCPMP (0.72RC1) I get the following error message:
"Player: MPEG4 AAC Audio decoder not included! It was removed from the package because of intellectual property considerations". If I get rid of this message and tap 'play' it then plays the video file such that the video is fine but there is no sound.
It plays other MP4 files fine (eg ones I have made with the camera itself).
Clearly the file has audio and video information, but neither WMP 10 for mobile or TCPMP can play both. I suspect this is not a v-mate issue but rather something about WMP 10 or TCPMP.
Any suggestions guys? I have looked on the forums but can't see anything on this.

just install plugins (will install the right codecs in thecoreplayer)
i play mp4 psp movies with them on my universal (works great )

Result!
Cheers Mate, worked first time - I am sure it's all obvious to you and other experienced users, but this has sorted me out splendidly.

I had the same issue with TCPMP not playing the MP4 files, got the same message saying the decoder was removed from the application. Loaded the two CAB files that were posted but still get the same message. Do I have to change anything in TCPMP to use the plugins for MP4 files?

Roy_S said:
I had the same issue with TCPMP not playing the MP4 files, got the same message saying the decoder was removed from the application. Loaded the two CAB files that were posted but still get the same message. Do I have to change anything in TCPMP to use the plugins for MP4 files?
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Which version of TCPMP do you use?
Try de-installing and installing.
Or even better
Try "Coreplayer" (this is the newest from tcpmp)
but sadly enough not free
(with a little search you can find reg/fix)
Wout

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mp4 video play back on PC

Hi Folks,
I just took for the first time a video clip with my Magician today, and had the Camera settings to
Capture Mode: Video
Capture Format: MPEG-4
Capture Size: Large
it produced a nice video clip file with in the .mp4 format (lets not talk about the quality)
I copied this file over to my SD card, and from there to my PC to play here.
It played by default using Apple Quick Time (7.0.3), no probs.
I tried to open it with WMP10 on my PC, and only got the sound, not video.
I was assuming, that a video clip taken with a Microsoft product (Magician WM2003) would play by default using the Microsoft pendant on the PC (WMP10), and MS does not rely on a 3rd party software (QT).
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong, or if I'm just missing the right codec on my PC to play back the file ?
Thanks
torklemm said:
Hi Folks,
I just took for the first time a video clip with my Magician today, and had the Camera settings to
Capture Mode: Video
Capture Format: MPEG-4
Capture Size: Large
it produced a nice video clip file with in the .mp4 format (lets not talk about the quality)
I copied this file over to my SD card, and from there to my PC to play here.
It played by default using Apple Quick Time (7.0.3), no probs.
I tried to open it with WMP10 on my PC, and only got the sound, not video.
I was assuming, that a video clip taken with a Microsoft product (Magician WM2003) would play by default using the Microsoft pendant on the PC (WMP10), and MS does not rely on a 3rd party software (QT).
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong, or if I'm just missing the right codec on my PC to play back the file ?
Thanks
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Correct me if i'm wrong but i do believe the camera program on modern HTC devices (like the Magician) is made by HTC itself and not by MS. So it's possible it uses different kind of codecs.
MS isn't allowed to ship a lot of codec with WMP. Only some basic and MS-made codecs. So you have to rely on third party apps/codecs to play the .mp4 files.
Hello Torklemm
You can use the VLC Player to Play almost any type of media including the mp4 , 3gp etc etc .
here is the link to download it - h**p://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-2194_4-10267151.html
You can also install the Nero Digital MPEG 4 AVC h.264 dshow decoder , after i installed this , my wmp ver 10 was able to play the Mp4 video files.
Cheers.
Sean_Dillon said:
Hello Torklemm
You can use the VLC Player to Play almost any type of media including the mp4 , 3gp etc etc .
here is the link to download it - h**p://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-2194_4-10267151.html
You can also install the Nero Digital MPEG 4 AVC h.264 dshow decoder , after i installed this , my wmp ver 10 was able to play the Mp4 video files.
Cheers.
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very useful decoder!
but only motion decoding not audio track.
i see only motion without sound.
Hmmm , That is Strange Vigor_ , I thought the audio recorded in the video format of Magician was either mp3 , wma or wav . . . all 3 being suported by wmp. Will have to check this Thanx.
It's none of those. The audio is AMR Narrowband, whatever the blazes that is! I've been having the same problem converting it. AMR doesn't seem to be supported by much.
mp4 format
You should use a plugin or converter program. For plugin Ulead video suite v9.0 is the best solution.For convert purpose I offer IMTOO program.Another way is using avi format instead of mp4
Where do you get that Nero Digital dshow decoder? A Link would be nice.
Re: mp4 format
bucat said:
You should use a plugin or converter program. For plugin Ulead video suite v9.0 is the best solution.For convert purpose I offer IMTOO program.Another way is using avi format instead of mp4
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The same with me. I use ImTOO 3GP Video Converter 2.1.55.1107b, good stuff.
Where do you get that Nero Digital dshow decoder?
The File Is Attached To The Post , Please Log-in To View and Download it.
How to do it for free, though it's a ton of work
Okay, I've successfully done it now. My biggest problem was that imTOO 3gpp costs money, and I just couldn't justify spending the money on it.
There's probably a few different ways to do this, but here's how I've done it:
1) Separate the Video stream from the audio stream
I used Microsoft Graphedit for this. It comes in a Microsoft SDK, but if you google it, you can find it.
When you open graphedit and select render the file, you'll get a message saying that part of the stream isn't recognised. That's the AMR audio. That's step 2, so ignore. Assuming you've got an xvid mpeg 4 codec on your machine already (and I suspect also a 3ivx codec), a graph will show up starting with your video file and ending with a video renderer. Click on the video renderer, delete it, and click on the xvid decoder and delete it. Then add a filter called file writer to the video stream coming out of the 3ivx media splitter.
Run that and you have an xvid mpeg-4 video stream with no audio.
2) Separate the amr audio stream
I used Miksoft 3gp decoder for this. For some reason I couldn't do video with this tool, so I just clicked the "convert audio only" option. It gave me a PCM .avi file.
3) Mix the two together
I have used two programs for this, both locatable through google and both freeware. Virtualdub and TMPGENC.
Virtualdub is handy if you have to rotate the video stream. I don't think you can use virtualdub to finalize the video because the .avi sound file kicks up an error for me. But the video I wanted to convert was filmed on my JAM with it held lengthwise (aka 320x240), so when the file is normally viewed, you see it 240x320 and have to tilt your head.
I prefer to use TMPGENC and end up with an MPEG-1 file. Here's why...
You input the xvid video file as the video source, the .avi pcm audio as the audio source, under advanced, select "Full screen (keep aspect ratio)" instead of the "full screen" that is presented there, and then let her run. You end up with a video in mpeg-1 that is formated to 352x240 (NTSC vcr resolution), but with black stripes above and below so that the image isn't stretched or distorted, like it would be if you just went with "full screen". You can then convert that into an avi file with whatever software you want.
It's a ton of work to do, but for me, it was a better solution than spending another $30US on something I'd use minimally. I also do a fair bit of video work, so I had all the other tools and codecs handy.
Good luck!
Hi
I use apples Quicktime - pro can also convert to AVI's.
BR
Daniel
The way I did it was to get the K-lite codec pack. Google it and don't download any versions from places that try to charge you for it, it's free. Also be aware of dodgy sites that may include spyware/malware with it. I've been stung a couple of times.
Then nearly any freeware converter will work. You can also play them in WMP.
Errrr...yes, that would seem to be a "faster" way of doing it...
screen capture
hmmm, need help...can't seem to capture images (using the screen capture button) when playing mp4 files on the vlc player...i've imported the image on adobe photoshop but it was distorted...help?
this is for info in relation to the original post
I too could not play my mp4 videos on my PC with sound and tried all the various players and plugins but this link from last year worked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12308&highlight=mp4

videos recorded cannot play back on PC

ok, i have tried dozens of codec packs and cannot get videos recordrd from my hermes to play on my pc. i have found how to get the video but cannot get sound at all... can anyone point me to what i need? thanks in advance.
also i am running CRC's rom version 12r9. not quite sure how to find the camera software version though...
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here is a link to a test file i just created, somehow i need to find out how to play the sound..
http://rapidshare.com/files/127075583/Test_file.mp4.html
i had success playing all mp4 files using quicktime
i had the exact same problem. any video i transferred to my pc would not play. quicktime would play 3gp files, but not mp4. no other software would play my mp4 files except for vlc player. i'm assuming it's an error in my windows installation or registry. i'm gonna transfer a couple vids to one of my laptops and see if they play on there. then i'll know whether or not it's due to my windows installation. if they play on laptop, i'll do a clean install of xp and see if they play.
Super will play them as well as the newest realplayer....
Hi
Why u not try Ultimate Media Pack or Classic Media Player? U can get this soft on www.9down.com
download quicktime OR download and install this then you can play the vids in wmp on your pc
http://www.free-codecs.com/mpegable_DS_decoder_download.htm
I had the same problem, I just rename the video files from .mp4 to .3gp on my computer and it plays them just fine.

Touch HD Movie Player - Best?

Hi All,
I have tried searching for MP4 and AVI in the forums, but search results came up with nada.
Can someone please assist me with the BEST movie player for the Touch HD and how to encode the files?
I am currently using Slysoft CloneDVD Mobile. I selected Windows Smartphone as my encoding template, loaded the DVD, and built the AVI file. All went good.
I then copied it across to my Touch HD and tried to play it in WMP but get an error "Cannot play file" without any further details.
Any ideas people?
TIA
Sounds like a missing codec problem to me. i had the same with playing xvid movies. i use tcpmp player now instead of wmp, but am looking for a nicer prog.
I find Coreplayer to be the best using the DivX converter set to Mobile for compressing. It will compress most files and even convert AC3 files for use.
The playback is smooth whereas the actual DivX mobile and old TCPMP players seem to have a 1 second slight glich in playback (shown when a video is panning across a scene).
I have also found that if you use a File Explorer with Network access such as Resco Explorer, you can set the default player to be Coreplayer and play these files from any Network drive. I use an ASUS WLHDD2.5 small wireless hard drive with 100Gb capacity and can store loads of Music, movies and photos on it.
Ensure that Coreplayer can actually play the file type first or an error will occur.
Map your Network drive in Resco Explorer (follow the distructions..)
Select and hold the file to play in Resco, select open, Open with and then select Coreplayer.
Viola.
you might want to try the blackstone video encoding gui (search on this forum) to convert movies to mp4 and then play them via windows media player or tf3d video player. To date, those two players are the only ones capable of playing video using hardware acceleration
I use MP4forHD encoder software. Very good and clip quality very good. Playback using default Album player that comes with THD.
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nagging said:
Try the attached CorePlayer 1.3.0. No need to encode files, it reads them all, works perfectly. Enjoy.
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is this a trial version , if not please remove it as its against the XDA rules
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nagging said:
Try the attached CorePlayer 1.3.0. No need to encode files, it reads them all, works perfectly. Enjoy.
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No acceleration though, so you have to encode to much lower quality.
nagging said:
Try the attached CorePlayer 1.3.0. No need to encode files, it reads them all, works perfectly. Enjoy.
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Sorry, but main problem is that CorePlayer will not play movies with AC3 sound (5.1). A lot of new movies have 5.1 sound.
blabla
i love and hate AC3 at the same time
hi, have you seen this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474955
its a handy little prog that makes very good conversion and plays exellently in the htc player.
yes yes
nagging said:
Try the attached CorePlayer 1.3.0. No need to encode files, it reads them all, works perfectly. Enjoy.
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it works
thanks man
gregy74 said:
Sorry, but main problem is that CorePlayer will not play movies with AC3 sound (5.1). A lot of new movies have 5.1 sound.
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And do you have 5 ears with 5 headphones?
What is the point for having 5.1 on a mobile device, it's not like you can output to TV anyways.
The point is to watch existing movies with AC3 soundtracks without spending hours to reconvert them first.

Unable to "scrub" on AAC & HE-AACv2

I know that this topic has been discussed a lot, but I want to explain my problem, which I think is different.
I have encoded a few files with dbPowerAmp & Nero AAC Encoder to the HE-AAC v2 format. Well, with TCPMP I can play them successfully (I have an "original" WM5 Universal).
The problem is that I'm not able to play them with any other software and I need something more "MP3-player-like" than TCPMP. Summarizing:
- WMP of course cannot neither see nor play files;
- Pocket Music with the AAC plugin crashes: I tried the demo version, PM asks for the registration of the AAC plugin and then suddenly crashes all times; the files are visible on the library but with wrong length (duration of the track);
- Conduits Pocket Player sees the files BUT with a wrong length (duration of the track); if I try to play a song, the sound is "cracky" and disturbed (on the contrary TCPMP plays perfectly!) and if you scrub (i.e. jump forward on time on the song) PP freezes.
So none of the software which claim to play AAC files works for me on Universal WM5. Have you got the same problem? Or am I missing something?
The files are encoded at 48kbps HE-AACv2; I also tried with "normal" AAC but the results are the same. Do anyone can explain me what's wrong? Why the incorrect song length?
TIA
Do anyone have the same issue? I don't need a solution, I would only know I'm not the only one with this problem...
Do you play AAC successfully on your mobile (with the correct file duration displayed and being able to "scrub")? With which software?
virtualdj said:
Do anyone have the same issue? I don't need a solution, I would only know I'm not the only one with this problem...
Do you play AAC successfully on your mobile (with the correct file duration displayed and being able to "scrub")? With which software?
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You need a AAC decoder for WMP. I was using that before and that worked but I can't remember now which decode filter I used or from where I got it.
You may google it...
tomal said:
You need a AAC decoder for WMP.
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Thank you for your answer. I really googled a lot, but withouth results.
I could only find:
AAC codec for Windows Media Player for Windows (NOT for Windows Mobile)
AAC decoder for TCPMP
AAC decoder for PocketMusic Player (which, as I said before, crashes)
But nothing for Windows Media Player for Windows Mobile 5. Can anyone help me or at least address me?
This issue is driving me crazy!

No .avi files playable?

Hi,
I have some .avi files on my Leo, but can't play them with standard Windows Media Player Portable. HTC player doesn't even show the files in the album view, so I can't add them to playlist.
Isn't Leo supposed to play .avi files? (Leo with WM6.5 and 1.48 ROM. Files on 16 GB FAT32 storage card.)
Properties of one avi file (for example):
350 MB
640 x 480 pixel
data rate: 996 kBit/s
total bit rate: 1122 kBit/s
25 fps
2 channel stereo sound
48 kHz, 126 kBit/s
Can someone help?
Thanks!
the_at
PS: If I convert the files to .mp4 with a program on my PC, Leo does play them. But I don't want to convert every single file (about 20 min. each)... Please help!
You need a different player to play avi files.
Try the suggestion in this post, particularly paying attention to the settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5276685&postcount=2
Hope this helps
Wow, thanks for that fast reply!
I tried TCPMP before. And got some sort for error, player wouldn't even start. However, I tried the version you suggest again. The avi video isn't played properly (mostly just a green screen, artifacts...), the GUI doesn't show up correctly and after closing the player my Leo crashes (softreset).
Any other suggestions?
(BTW: Isn't there a solution without having to install a new player? Like an update or registry edit for the Windows Media Player? Afterall Leo should support avi files natively...
Thanks!!
the_at
the_at said:
Wow, thanks for that fast reply!
I tried TCPMP before. And got some sort for error, player wouldn't even start. However, I tried the version you suggest again. The avi video isn't played properly (mostly just a green screen, artifacts...), the GUI doesn't show up correctly and after closing the player my Leo crashes (softreset).
Any other suggestions?
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You're welcome
Did you check the settings, as per that post that I linked you to? They work perfect for me, and the problems you described suggest that you didn't. Change the settings and then close the player. When you open it again it should play fine. (You need a succesful close to save the settings changes, which is why I suggest this.)
the_at said:
BTW: Isn't there a solution without having to install a new player? Like an update or registry edit for the Windows Media Player? Afterall Leo should support avi files natively...
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I'm afraid not - there's no native support for avi files (well, there may be for some encoding formats, or for raw avi files, but most avi files are encoded in a manner that requires you to have codecs installed on a PC to play, and obviously that's not windows mobile. Installing TCPMP means that you have a player with relevant codecs.)
Hope this helps
AVI is just the container, depends on what that AVI was encoded with as to WMP playing it or not...
TCPMP / Core player are very good players if set up properly.
Thanks to you guys!!
TCPMP is now working. Great! However, there is still one bug. Buttons next to "file" and "options" are not visible (eg. play, pause, next ..). They become visible for a slip second when I click them, but... Anyone knows a way around?
Thanks,
the_at

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