Horrible Video Playback - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I recently switched from a treo 650 to a 8125 and have come to discover that the video playback on the 8125 is not even watchable. The first thing i put on was a SNL skit which seemed to play decently although it didnt look like the mouths were always moving with the words. I then installed TCPMP since it is what i used on my treo and it supports more formats since i use a mac and my music is usually aac while my videos are mp4. I have a lot of dvds converted into ipod format which are already 320x240 which is what the treo needs as well. I use handbrake to convert them and the bit rate usually ends up at around 130-150 while the file size is usually around 500mb. These videos play fine on my ipod and treo but when i go to play them in TCPMP they are extremely jerky and it is not even possible to watch it. I tried the same SNL skit in TCPMP and it played back a lot worse than WMP. I tried adjusting all the settings i could in TCPMP with no improvements. I also shut down all of the programs except TCPMP and that didnt help either. I was hoping video playback would be smooth since it has such a nice screen on it but as of now its just a big dissapointment. If there is a solution to this i would really appreciate some input. Thanks a lot
Ty

hi
maybe the problem is with tcpmp because it also happen in my blueangel. it support alot of format its just that it doesnt play them very well.

TCPMP
Hi there,
I use TCPMP extensively to watch full feature movies and it runs as smooth as silk. I use pocketdivxencoder to convert AVI's which is freeware, just do a google. I also use imtoodvdripper to rip dvd vob files to AVI format which I then convert with pocketdivxencoder to ppc format. and VOILA!!!! I hope this helps you. Let us know.
Cheers,
MAC

Get the overclocker and set the clock to 252 or 264 before watching the movie. It helps tremendously.

U need to convert them, if you just play a regular 700mb avi movie it wont work but once you convert it to pocket divx its fine

500 MB is kind of large for a QVGA movie...perhaps you're doing it wrong...I use 3GP to batch encode episodes and they come out 125-250MB each. Plays fine on TCPMP with other stuff running.

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Video Converting

I have recently got an HTC TyTN II and i have been wanting to watch movies with it. Is there a way to convert movies into a format so the WMP on it will play them or the Video Player because the .avi files wont play on either. If there is a special format to use are there any programs to convert them to that format?
Thanks in advance
James
First off, the HTC Tytn II is the Kaiser, not the Titan
You should use TCPMP to play all your videos because it plays a wide variety of formats. I personally have a few preconverted stuff that play excellently on my phone (in mp4 format).
Honestly, I tried to do what you wanted, and gave up with trying to watch movies via WMP.
Instead, I use the free DIVX player whcih playes .avi.
I then, after trying almost every ripping software out there, ended up with SPB DVD Magic which admittedly is something you have to pay $24.95 for, but it works better than any other program free or share that I tried. It rips copy-protected DVDs (only those I personally own!) at a 25 fps rate with a variety of settings for aspect ratio, etc. and does it in the shortest amount of time and with the best quality to file size ratio I have seen.
The playback on my DIVX player is very nice, even with the Mogul's substandard video playback and internal memory.
With my 16GB memory card I have over 8 full length movies on my ppc (along with every CD Rom I own) and have room for about 5-6 more movies.
I highly recommend the SPB DVD Magic and DIVX player route.
Devin
I use Windows Movie maker or one of the other such things to convert the AVI to a WMP. I also resize it to the PDA screen, 320 X 240. Then I can get a lot of movies on my card and they play well.

play movies on xperia without conversion!!

hi
i would just like to know that is there a difference with encoding a movie before watching it on the xperia because i have tried many programs and to be honest are probably a waste of time
with the new coreplayer program, just download a movie from the internet and move it over to the xperia and use coreplayer to watch it, plays perfectly, tried with many movies, no problems, the only waiting time i do i downloading the movie and moving it over
or am i missing something by not converting it??
I don't guess your movies are playing smooth in fullscreen @ very good quality.
umm nope, they perfectly fine as if i was watching the film on the pc , i have 5 movies on my xperia 700mb+ and work to perfection, never gonna use conversion again, waste of time!!!!!
try it out, download the latest coreplayer and play any downloaded movie, u'll be quite suprised!! , full screen playback.. beautiful !!
Is this CorePlayer commercial ?
Yeah it is the best player for non-converted movies. But normal 1CD movie plays at 80-90%, movies with higher bitrate even slower.
I know people who call that watchable, or even perfect. I'm not one of those.
" Is this CorePlayer commercial ?"
yes
their free media program is tcpmp player
Rudegar said:
" Is this CorePlayer commercial ?"
yes
their free media program is tcpmp player
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Which - by the way - doesn't get updated anymore. (last time I checked, at least)
thats because the movies you download are already converted. most people who are doing the encoding are converting their dvd to a format that the xperia can play.
vegeta2007 said:
hi
i would just like to know that is there a difference with encoding a movie before watching it on the xperia because i have tried many programs and to be honest are probably a waste of time
with the new coreplayer program, just download a movie from the internet and move it over to the xperia and use coreplayer to watch it, plays perfectly, tried with many movies, no problems, the only waiting time i do i downloading the movie and moving it over
or am i missing something by not converting it??
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any downloaded avi file works on coreplaying including the hd ones
avi is not a real format though it's a container for other formats
like divX or xvid or many others ranging from good to poor codecs
but coreplayer seem to play every one I tried
vegeta2007 said:
with the new coreplayer program, just download a movie from the internet and move it over to the xperia and use coreplayer to watch it, plays perfectly, tried with many movies, no problems, the only waiting time i do i downloading the movie and moving it over
or am i missing something by not converting it??
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hi.
I wouldn't call it perfect, but it is sooo damn near to it. I've just tested two movies and even with lots of action going on coreplayer dropped only few frames (although it was clearly visible). when I've changed quality to medium under preferences/video all the playback is butter smooth and lil' bit lowered quality is still better than waiting for ages to convert a video. btw: I am using qtv it tytn 2 comp. mode. I am so happy that I've bought this app. waiting for next releases..
^x2 but with TCPMP. it would chop out .avi files every 4 secs at high quality (not sure if it was divx or xvid) but if you change the video driver from DirectDraw to Raw FrameBuffer and change the quality from Normal to Low, it plays really smooth without losing too much quality.
... but still - with coreplayer qtv You get full speed almost all the time. high quality ofcourse... it is a shame really, that there is no demo for coreplayer so more people could actualy try it.

So How is the Video Playback?

I've been using the TD2 for almost a week now. Really really happy with it,but I haven't tested any videos yet,though it was one of my major priorities behind buying this phone. Actually I am bit concerned after some reviews of the phone by some websites,they stated the Video playback is not up to the mark(Like-Skipped frames,Sound cracking etc.). If this is true then the large 3.2' screen will make no sense and I would be very SAD. So please vote and input your comments.
BTW-By Video I mean AVI files(either .xvid or .divx encoded) for PC playback(VGA or above quality),please don't say anything about .mp4,3gp and Conversion of videos. Maybe CorePlayer is the option,I don't have it as it's not free.
Thanks in advance.
IME the device on its own barely plays any video formats and doesn't even play them so well. I bought CorePlayer and it plays most things and quite well too. Sometimes you just have to pay for stuff. Shame the UI is a bit ropey though.
convert the video first to smaller resolution..it will be better..and yes coreplayer is my favourite player too..
Without saying anything about certain formats we've been asked not to mention , I have converted some films (they had to be converted, they were DVDs to start with!) and have got to a place where I'm happy, extremely, very slight lip-sync issue, but watchable, and on the 3.2 screen they look great, no issues with Video, just need to get the Audio-Video sync sorted.
BTW-Haven't used an existing files, converted films specifically for TD2 (the ones converted for my XDA Orbit were a bit on the small size due to the screen size.
PS Only use HTC Album to view, WMP doesn't seem to want to play anything I give to it.
I have excellent quality with PocketDivxEncoder to make my movie smaller.
On my TD2/Topaz i use CorePlayer because it's WideScreen.
TCPMP won't run on my phone and WMP doesn't have the codecs.
Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.
ithehappy said:
Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.
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I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities
oh and to be even more clear - all <=700MB xvid encoded movies running superb smoothly, WITHOUT any compression
jgal said:
I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities
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Just to be clear, the ripped DVD can't just be a standard file, it has to have been converted first, even if that conversion keeps the resolution and size intact, even Coreplayer can't play vob files.
Coreplayer also doesn't support AC3 audio which is a huge limitation and disappointment This means that any video files with DD are no go.
watched the pilot of Caprica. The file was downloaded for PC viewing. was a Xvid encoded .avi file resoloution 624 x 352 and encoded with 23 fps with a data rate of 133 Kbps (It says 133kbps for audio as well, so I assume that is the total ofr both streams).
Played perfectly on Core player
Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.
I think 1.3.2 build 6909 is the current release so maybe the version you are using is a bit old. It should play xVid avis no problem at that resolution. You could alos try the free TCMP from which coreplayer was derived. http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
ithehappy said:
Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.
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What was the data rate? My version of Core is older (1.25) and the same res file flew for me. It was a 700MB file for 90 odd minutes of video.
I tried two videos(music),here are the detail:
The First one,(a Taylor Swift video),72mb
The details from my PC- Time-4 mins 37 secs,Resolution 640*352,Audio format-Lame MP3,Audio Bit rate-192kbps and Video Frame rate-23fps/sec, Video Date rate-2099kbps, Video Sample size-24bits, Video compression-FFDS
Now when I tried to play that by Core Player 1.30 on my TD2,it didn't run at all,
Now the details of the Video by Core Player-
Video- AVC aka H.264,Codec-Core AVC and I played it for first 30 seconds and it played 67 frames and Dropped 985 frames,the rate was 1.527
Now the second music video,98.6mb
Resolution-512*384,Runtime-18 mins 57 seconds, Frame rate-23fps/sec,Data rate-710kbps,Video sample size-24bits,Video compression-XVID
Now Core player played this video well,very well infact,the Details by Core player,
Video-MPEG4,Codec-Core ASP,I watched it for first 6 mins and it played 744 frames and dropped 7,Played FPS-23.88
Thanks
I'm guessing that You copied your file to the memory card. If so, did You install SDTuneUp drivers? It looks like they are a must have.
Sir,I don't know what is SD tune up driver and where to install from. BTW-I don't have a memory card on my TD2,it didn't come out of the box and so lazy to buy a seperate one.
hi, I am wondering how the performance is watching football (soccer) highlights from youtube or www.footytube.com , does anyone have any ideas? I have tried this on sony Ericsson w995 and the ball is invisible :s
I know it has been mentioned before but converting using he HTC Touch HD ‘Encoder’ program works well using HTC Album playback on my stock ROM TD2 playing back from the SD Card.
I understand that some of you are resistant to converting files and do not want to go this route but I thought it might help some of those reading this thread that smooth HQ playback from the SD card is absolutely possible without paying any money if you spend the time converting files on a PC (or Mac).
Tony

Rhodium Video very very poor

I am trying to play downloaded DVD movies on my Rhodium and i presume its using Windows Media, the playback is sluggish and the sound is not in sync with the playback, is this the best i can expect after spending £500 or is it just that i need another media player? Shooting video and playing back seems fine the problem is when i convert a DVD the playback is pretty appalling, ANY HELP FROM ANYONE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
tHANKS
Allan
What format are the movies you're downloading? What are you using to convert them? Are the downloaded movies in sync? How about the converted ones? If you play them on your PC, are they synced up?
Check the resolution of the movie. Make sure it is 640x480. You don;t want to have the CPU doing all the resizing as the movie is being played. Some format may be better than the others too. And try with WMP. I believe it has hardware acceleration built-in.
Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.
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Still I would love the phone be able to play HD 720p videos natively. Maybe one day.
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amen! lol anyways ya you just arent formating the dvd'rips very well then cause i have a few full dvd's playing in perfect quality and timing on WMP and that's not even the best player to use
Use core player, it works fine with most videos (far better than the standard app)
Vio
try VIO Video Converter for your DVD conversions and select full quality. The file sizes are large but the quality and audio/video sync is superb.
Core Player is great and I consider 640x384 to be the optimal resolution for playback. Get a good video encoder and experiment for yourself though.
Use Super C to resize the video and then coreplayer to play it, no problems at all!
I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.
As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
Kloc said:
I can play 800x480 AVC @1.2Mbit/s through HTC Media Player smoothly. In Coreplayer I can't even get 1 FPS out of that file. I use MEGUI with the Zune settings to convert the video from a Bluray format.
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What is the HTC Media Player? Anyonehave a cab?
barneypooch said:
As far as I can see, there isn't a good option right now, unless someone can say/prove otherwise.
For example: I have an AVI encoded with Divx 5 636*346, avg bitrtate 900, mp3 stereo. I can get this to play smoothly on much older hardware (a Palm TX), without conversion, via TCMPC.
So, WHY can't I find a player that works smoothly on the TP2?
I've read that the TP2 can handle avg bitrates up to 1,400 kbps; and it doesn't make sense to re-encode at a screen res lower than the bloody device.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney
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What is the HTC Media Player? Anyonehave a cab?
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It come on the device. HTC Album
i just can't imagine that there is no possibility to play normal divx/avi movies on my tp2 .. just like on pc.
i don't want to waste my time converting all videos just to watch it on tp2 ..
same prob with subtitle support .. can't be that difficult ?! only tcpmp can play them with an extension .. (and that video playback isn't smooth!)
http://kinoma.com/
give that a try and let us know if you are happy or not please
kinoma doesn't support divx/xvid
i use a free program called handbrake and my settings are 480x320,mpeg4,480 biterate-Audio,AAC 160 biterate. i actually used these settings on my G1 originally but when i got my TP2 i tried a few of the movies out since they wur already on my memory card and they all play and sound great on the default player.
im using coreplayer and ive not had a problem playing any movie downloaded from the net. anything from 700mb to 1.6mb dvd rips, ive watched probably 60 odd and they've all played perfectly. never had to convert anything.
coreplayer is definetely the best thing to get supports pretty much everything
i only use the album player for converted hd content (using the converter someone made on this site) = that plays excellent as well, and looks better (i might be ight in thinking album uses hardward acceleration as well)
ranney said:
What I don't understand is that Coreplayer on my device has a verry low FPS. BUT when selecting the Benchmark function, the movie will play beautiful... (Only the movie and sound synchronisation is not so best...)
Anybody a working solution? On a different forum, i've read that HTC Album has the best hardware acceleration. They adviced to play movies with thc album (In the mp4 format)
Greets, Ranney
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Menu > Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Video
Change "Video Output" to GDI if the player is choppy/crappy. On my Telus (CDMA) Touch Pro 2 the QTv Display works fine but I know other HTC devices have required GDI instead.
The playback on this phone sucks big time! Not sure what it is .... coreplayer GDI does not work and Tcpmp with all kinds of tweaks settings does not play videos smooth at all. You can tell there are frame skipping in my phone. My wing plays videos better than this. GEEZ!!!!!

Video Transcoding Tips?

I'm planning to transcode some video to watch on my universal via SD card, the presets on WinFF (Win32 wrapper to FFMpeg) are numerous but going to try 3GP @ 320x240x15fps, anyone else achieved this and if so what rates/sizes/formats did you use?
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Transcoding ?? Why would you need it ? Unless the videos are HD, the Universal has the power to play them fine (most of them very fine ). If the space is your problem, I suggest a bigger SD-card.
I think it's a waste of time those ~30 minutes needed for conversion of a movie that lasts @ 90 min; and I'm pretty sure that you'll delete the movie after you'll watch it.
PS: for best results use TCPMP (freeware) or Core Player (not freeware). The Media Player is much slower and it supports few codecs.
Transcoding
I agree
There is no need for this as the UNI has all the power needed to play films with ease. If space is an issue google for DVD Catalyst. It's freeware and can reduce the size of DVD's down to about 275Mb.
Then just play them through the TCPMP as suggested by GNotten as this is far superior
I USE MKV videos with coreplayers .... they save so much space compared to other video formats and the video quality is far better than other format... one movie is around 250~300 mb...
Size and wether or not it could handle it were my main issues. Dont have a problem kicking off a transcode ffmpeg job and wandering off elsewhere while it's busy but i'll give a raw video a go and see how i get on
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Size and wether or not it could handle it were my main issues. Dont have a problem kicking off a transcode ffmpeg job and wandering off elsewhere while it's busy but i'll give a raw video a go and see how i get on
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well there are really great video players like TCPMP and CorePlayer with which i have to never convert any video... just dran ang drop it from computer to SD and it runs flawlwssly... except rmv... which WMP can play after tweaking but can not fast forwar... except that no problems at all not size nor video format...
Cheers
Rajiv

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