Telus P4000 (Titan) GPS not working. - Mogul, XV6800 General

Hey guys,
I just updated my rom using the latest HTC upgrade (WM6.1) which includes GPS support however i am unable to connect to a single satellite.
ROM: 3.54.661.1
Radio: 3.42.40
I'm not very good with upgrading s/w on the device in the fear that it will brick the phone. Is there any step by step guide that i can follow to get the GPS working on my device?
Under the Start > Settings > System > External GPS, my GPS Program Port is set to COM4 and the GPS Hardware port is set to NONE. Everytime i change my Hardware port to something (Anything) it seems to revert back to NONE.
I was looking at some posts on here that suggested using DCD's Rom update however i like having some of the options in there that the ROM removes (eg: Office). I've used Holux GPS Viewer 1.5 and turn COM4 on (open) which creates a constant stream of GPGSV and GPGSA attributes in the scroll window towards the bottom however there is no fix on any single satellite.
Are there any fixes that apply directly to GPS while keeping the rest of the phone stock?
Thanks for any help,
Mehrdad

If you have a data plan, you can enable aGPS.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=36377
If there isn't an ip listed for your carrier, use alltel's.
BTC

I will try that once i get home tonite but is there a way to use GPS and not aGPS?

Pending your carrier hasn't locked it down, and you are running a V3.29+ radio and 6.1 rom, GPS should just work, tho without aGPS it can take forever to get a satellite link.
BTC

Hey buddy,
I used the fix and followed each step of the tutorial. Check the boxes in QPST off and then back on, changed to the Telus (and Alltel) IP and ports, modified the registry keys to what Shadowtech had mentioned and still my device only says "Seeking GPS satellites (0)..."
On my today screen i see the BAF GPS Toggle option and click it so that is switches on but still no luck. (GPS On Seek:0)
I tried using it in every combination with GPS Viewer 1.5 however that too ended up with no results.
I've checked and rechecked the entire process that was documented. Did you have any other suggestions i could try?
If i did decide to update my ROM did you know the best ROM update that would enable my GPS and would i be able to install it even after i've updgraded to 3.54.661.1 (Radio 3.42.40)? As in, is it backward compatible?
Thanks for all your help,
Mehrdad

merrybob said:
Hey buddy,
I used the fix and followed each step of the tutorial. Check the boxes in QPST off and then back on, changed to the Telus (and Alltel) IP and ports, modified the registry keys to what Shadowtech had mentioned and still my device only says "Seeking GPS satellites (0)..."
On my today screen i see the BAF GPS Toggle option and click it so that is switches on but still no luck. (GPS On Seek:0)
I tried using it in every combination with GPS Viewer 1.5 however that too ended up with no results.
I've checked and rechecked the entire process that was documented. Did you have any other suggestions i could try?
If i did decide to update my ROM did you know the best ROM update that would enable my GPS and would i be able to install it even after i've updgraded to 3.54.661.1 (Radio 3.42.40)? As in, is it backward compatible?
Thanks for all your help,
Mehrdad
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Finally! I found this that got it working..
"I was going to suggest the registry fix by setting "EnableGPSSmart" to 1 (from 0).
It's under HKLM -> Software -> HTC -> SUPL AGPS.
You installed the fix that evidently does the same thing, but I think all of the other stuff you did was probably unnecessary! (=
Following the instructions in the first post + the reg fix has worked when I've set it up on three HTC Touch's.
The first post should be updated to include this IMO.
Enjoy your GPS man,
Cheers!"
Sheer stroke of luck and a very good surprise!

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Hey guys, XV6900 newb here trying to enable GPS...

I have been reading around and talking to friends about the Touch phone, and could use a little more assistance on enabling the GPS in my phone. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Robbie
have you upgraded to windows mobile 6.1??
if so, then go to start > settings > Phone > Services tab > make sure location setting is highlighted, click get settings >then make sure it is set to on.
that will make sure that applications are allowed to use your gps signal.
then once you have done that,
open your gps, if you use google maps you have to click menu, use gps.
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom. My question is, does gps use data? Is the gps a real gps that connects to satellites or is it some pseudo gps that approximates my location by triangulating distances between my phone and the nearest couple cell towers? I don't have a data plan and don't want an unpleasant suprise on my next bill.
jrb_82 said:
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom. My question is, does gps use data? Is the gps a real gps that connects to satellites or is it some pseudo gps that approximates my location by triangulating distances between my phone and the nearest couple cell towers? I don't have a data plan and don't want an unpleasant suprise on my next bill.
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Yes, the Vogue has a real GPS antena. If you read through the forums you'll find verizon users have to do a bit of tweaking to get it working.
It can be confusing, because our phones also support "agps". This stands for assisted gps. AGPS uses cell phone tower triangulation to get a position.
GPS has inherent errors, in the aviation world there is a system called diffrential GPS. This uses a ground based system to correct the time diffrential error in the sattelites for greater accuracy. Without dgps you cannot use the gps inputs for a precision approach, only enroute, terminal and overlay. We use other systems such as vor/dme. This uses ground based "towers" to get a position using radial and distance information. This is very similiar to what agps does.
to answer the question does it use data?
the answer is yes.
it has to have a data connection in order to receive the gps data.
atleast thats my understanding, as a data connection does start and maintain during my gps sessions.
codybear said:
to answer the question does it use data?
the answer is yes.
it has to have a data connection in order to receive the gps data.
atleast thats my understanding, as a data connection does start and maintain during my gps sessions.
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No it shouldn't. The data connection you're seeing is probably initiated by the application that needs the internet for transferring maps like Google maps or MS Live search.
If you load up any independent GPS app that uses locally stored maps like TomTom or Garmin, then it shouldn't initiate any data connections.
thanks method man for correcting me.
i didn't think about it that way. haha.
Also a Newbie
I was wondering whether there was an app that I would need to install on my xv6900 to get the GPS working or do i need an external device like the TomTom Go series to get the GPS up and running.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thankyou
How to get GPS to work
acidreflux1 said:
I was wondering whether there was an app that I would need to install on my xv6900 to get the GPS working or do i need an external device like the TomTom Go series to get the GPS up and running.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thankyou
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The reason it dont work is because GPS tries to connect one way, i belive its phone as modem. and when you browse the internet, it tries to connect as Sprint PCS.
now i might be wrong in that, but just lisen.
in order to fix it you need to do a registry change. get a free program to edit the registry. like PHM RegEdit.
got it downloaded? installed? good. lets move on.
open it up
click on My Device
+HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
+Comm
+ConnMgr
+Providers
+{7C4B7A38-somethingsomethingsomething}
+Phone as Modem.
go into that setting, make sure that the key AlwaysOn is set to 0
THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART
go down a setting from phone as modem to
+SprintPCS
the key inside doesnt have to be set to Always On, but you can enable it if you want.
now close it up. count to 20 and do a restart on the phone
next time you try to run any GPS app it should work. use GoogleMaps though.
also while you are in here you can go into ConnectionSharing. a key above ConnMgr. and make it so you can use your phone as a modem for your laptop. the option was removed in the 6.1 update. let me know if you wish to know how.
6.1 ROM? and GPS
jrb_82 said:
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom.
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I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
jimonfly said:
I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
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Here is the link to the offical WM6.1 ROM
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon Wireless
1. sync your phone with Outlook. You will loose everything on your phone when you flash the new ROM. Files on your memory card will be safe.
2. Unlock your phone with 2.31 & refer to the links below.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
http://www.atwistedweb.com/xv6900/index.html
3. connect your phone to your computer via activesync & run the ROM file you download. Simply follow the instructions.
4. Your phone will hard reset once the flash is complete. You will have to align the screen & such. The very last screen will ask you to tap the screen to begin using your device. You have to be ready to soft reset your phone as soon as you tap the screen. DO NOT LET THE CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN OR YOU WILL BE SCREWED FOR SURE.
5.Settings--->Phone--->Services Tab select location settings & then hit the get settings button. Make sure Location On is selected.
6. Download the Holus GPS viewer & install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434408&highlight=holux+gps+viewer
post #3
7. Once the GPS viewer open hit the scan button. This will tell you what port & at what baud you GPS is at. It should be com 4 @ 4800.
8. Hit the open GPS button & hopefully you will get a lock.
phone keeps scanning for satellites
Is this normal? The GPS program ran and continues to search for satellites. Its alomst like it can't find any. I ran it just the way you listed. Anything else I can try?
If you are using Holux GPS viewer and you see red dots then be happy your GPS is working. Usually first lock takes longer. try it on an open place hopefully you will get a lock. The red dots you see on Holux are the satellites that your GPS is seeing, Once it gets a lock you will see blue dots and that's a fix. If it continues to flash red dots, I would try closing and opening port once, that wud restart the GPS.
Once you get a lock, use any 3rd party software like Garmin Mobile XT or Tomtom Navigator 7 if you don't have a data plan. If you have a dataplan then you can use goolemaps too.
Hope it helps..
bwolsen said:
Is this normal? The GPS program ran and continues to search for satellites. Its alomst like it can't find any. I ran it just the way you listed. Anything else I can try?
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MethodMan said:
No it shouldn't. The data connection you're seeing is probably initiated by the application that needs the internet for transferring maps like Google maps or MS Live search.
If you load up any independent GPS app that uses locally stored maps like TomTom or Garmin, then it shouldn't initiate any data connections.
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No that isn't true at all,
I have both Tomtom and Igo with map files on the sd card. The phone needs the internet to get the agps information otherwise the GPS programs can't get a lock. It doesn't use much adata at all as I was roaming in the states (from canada) for around 10 days , I used the gps everyday and was only charged under $3 for the whole 10 days.
jimonfly said:
I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
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http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon Wireless
Here is the update you are looking for, now.... For the love of the lord, DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATION RUN!!!
Update your device as directed in the file, when the device updates and restarts, you will see a message that says something like "Running Customization in... 3,2,1 Seconds" or something like that, when you see that, stick the stylus in the hole at the bottom of the device and you will avoid a big pain in the @ss.
EDIT: Oops, i'm too late LOL, didn't refresh thepage while searching the update.
Can't get a lock
I just followed all the steps and installed GPS viewer and could not get a lock. I used the Verizon MR1 rom. Since that did not work I tried installing Valhalla GPS Server to see if that would help. No luck. Any Ideas?
mfpreach said:
No that isn't true at all,
I have both Tomtom and Igo with map files on the sd card. The phone needs the internet to get the agps information otherwise the GPS programs can't get a lock. It doesn't use much adata at all as I was roaming in the states (from canada) for around 10 days , I used the gps everyday and was only charged under $3 for the whole 10 days.
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I have data blocked on my phone and the GPS worked fine up until about a month ago. Whatever Verizon did blocked my GPS and I have not been able to get is working since. I can still run GPS viewer and see satellites but I can't get a fix on them.
I have everything working now. Thanks.
Just so I have it straight...
When I unlock the phone with 2.31, do I let customizations run? The ppcgeeks thread doesn't specify, but the atwistedweb thread says let them run. What does 2.31 do? Just unlock the phone so I can install the next ROM? Also, the ppc post talks about disabling USB while the other does not. Is there a preference?
When I install the new WM6.1 ROM, the atwistedweb post says to install it from the SD card, while the this thread says via USB. Once again, any preference?
I understand not to let the customizations run for this ROM and by putting the stylus in the bottom hole it resets the machine. After it comes up again, will the phone be (should be) upgraded and ready to use?
Lastly, if my phone gets "bricked" (I guess that means it turns into a battery powered paperweight), you guy can help me out, right?
Man, all of this just to get GPS and Verizon service. Still nervous! And Verizon won't shut my service off or stop tech support?
Thanks again. Trying to get all the info up front so I don't have to later. Jim
jimonfly said:
Just so I have it straight...
When I unlock the phone with 2.31, do I let customizations run? The ppcgeeks thread doesn't specify, but the atwistedweb thread says let them run. What does 2.31 do? Just unlock the phone so I can install the next ROM? Also, the ppc post talks about disabling USB while the other does not. Is there a preference?
When I install the new WM6.1 ROM, the atwistedweb post says to install it from the SD card, while the this thread says via USB. Once again, any preference?
I understand not to let the customizations run for this ROM and by putting the stylus in the bottom hole it resets the machine. After it comes up again, will the phone be (should be) upgraded and ready to use?
Lastly, if my phone gets "bricked" (I guess that means it turns into a battery powered paperweight), you guy can help me out, right?
Man, all of this just to get GPS and Verizon service. Still nervous! And Verizon won't shut my service off or stop tech support?
Thanks again. Trying to get all the info up front so I don't have to later. Jim
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Make sure you have backed up everything. First you need to unlock with the .40 unlocker. Then flash to the sprint pre-GPS ROM (This will downgrade your radio which is said to be dangerous but I have never heard of anyone hurting their phone while doing it correctly. This will also require you to call Verizon and get a new A-key. If they ask you what happened just tell them that you had to hard reset your device because of a bad program. Go through all of their steps and it will all get fixed. You have to call Verizon because you wont be able to make calls.) DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN! You'll know they're about to run beacuse there will be a pop up saying they're going to run in 3 seconds (or something like that). As soon as you see that pop up stick your stylus in the reset hole. Then unlock with the 2.31 unlocker. After you use this unlocker you wont have to unlock again. Ok now you flash back to the Verizon MR1 ROM. DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN! Once again you'll know they're about to run beacuse there will be a pop up saying they're going to run in 3 seconds (or something like that). Now after you do this your GPS should be working but I was never able to get it to work with the Verizon MR1 ROM. So I recommend using NSFFAN's 6.5 ROM. Now when I unlock and flash ROM's I don't disable the USB thing your talking about. I also flash everything through my computer (USB) and not through the SD card. There is a small chance you can brick your phone but if you do everything carefully and correctly it's a very very small chance. Just make sure you are doing everything right before moving on to each next step. If a phone is bricked I don't think it can be recovered but i'm not 100% sure. Lots of times when there are problems though it's not a bricked phone and just a glitch so if you have anything that doesn't seem right just come on here and ask for help. Verizon won't do anything with your service except fix your phone like I said earlier unless you tell them what your actually doing. I don't know what happens then and I don't want to find out.. What they don't know won't hurt them Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or need any help.

GPS X9601

GPS problems
Ok so I have a North American GSM x9501...
Never used the GPS (Telenav isn't available to Canadian residense). This device is unlocked and NOT purchased from Rogers...
Downloaded Google maps, tried to use GPS and it wouldn't work. Set the settings manually Com4 57600 baud... It says searching for satalites, and has some HUGE number (54357734578) in brackets... GPS doesn't work.
Installed the HTC GPS tool, looks like GPS data is coming in, but can't get a fix. Then tried to use GPSgate, and it says GPS data is coming in but cannot get fix. Both of these two apps can't find any satalites.
Does anyone know what is up?
Zhariak said:
GPS problems
Ok so I have a North American GSM x9501...
Never used the GPS (Telenav isn't available to Canadian residense). This device is unlocked and NOT purchased from Rogers...
Downloaded Google maps, tried to use GPS and it wouldn't work. Set the settings manually Com4 57600 baud... It says searching for satalites, and has some HUGE number (54357734578) in brackets... GPS doesn't work.
Installed the HTC GPS tool, looks like GPS data is coming in, but can't get a fix. Then tried to use GPSgate, and it says GPS data is coming in but cannot get fix. Both of these two apps can't find any satalites.
Does anyone know what is up?
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yep, go out in middle of a field or open Terrace or any place where you can see the sky above you head directly and then start google maps with GPS or HTC GPS tool or GPS gate etc , wait 3-5 min and then it should have fix...
cheers
I've given is some time... Probably over 5 minutes...
It's just odd, I have lots of experiencing using GPS software and devices. It looks like it should be working, the only odd behaviour is:
1) It finds no satalites
and
2) Google Maps says "Seeking Satalites (3874732644)" which is odd, because theres not that many GPS satalites, lol.
Change the Baud Rate to 9600 and see whether it will work.
Tried different baud rates.
Yesterday I let it sit for 15 minutes on google maps until finally it said there was no reception...
And I know I have reception because I was outside. Both my TytN II and HP iPaq have no trouble aquiring fix's...
download free VISUALGPS CE and install. Then connect it to COM4 and press start.
See the NMEA log monitor section. You should see lot's of data, if not, your GPS might be bad.
I'm unsure if your 9501 will work with the ROM's we use in Europe to make calls, and have GPS enabled.. If it's OK, I would flash Thai Hugo's Age of Reason and check again your GPS.
I'm using the factory ROM for the X9501 (Which does support GPS off the bat).
I used the HTC tool, and it looked like NMEA data was going through...
Zhariak said:
I'm using the factory ROM for the X9501 (Which does support GPS off the bat).
I used the HTC tool, and it looked like NMEA data was going through...
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On the HTC tool there is option to see the satellites , check if its has any satellites on red color, if so keep the shift out in terrace or garden until 3 satellite color changes to green , have patience....
if it does not show any satellite on the HTC tool then probably you need to flash the rom with some new rom from the forum ..
Before you do that make a copy of your Stock/original rom ..see forum for instruction
PS: Since you have the stock / orginal rom X9501....would you do me a favour and check if you connect to head set and on Windows mobile side WM6, can you record a message and then play back and you can hear your self back .... I wanted to know if the mic works with head set on WM6 side...for the Stock 9501 ROM.
Cheers.
shawankit said:
On the HTC tool there is option to see the satellites , check if its has any satellites on red color, if so keep the shift out in terrace or garden until 3 satellite color changes to green , have patience....
if it does not show any satellite on the HTC tool then probably you need to flash the rom with some new rom from the forum ..
Before you do that make a copy of your Stock/original rom ..see forum for instruction
PS: Since you have the stock / orginal rom X9501....would you do me a favour and check if you connect to head set and on Windows mobile side WM6, can you record a message and then play back and you can hear your self back .... I wanted to know if the mic works with head set on WM6 side...for the Stock 9501 ROM.
Cheers.
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Yes the Mic works, I helped Comonex with some testing to find out which radio firmwares supported the Mic.
Yes I can record/playback on the Windows Mobile side, and Yes skype works, etc....
Zhariak said:
Yes the Mic works, I helped Comonex with some testing to find out which radio firmwares supported the Mic.
Yes I can record/playback on the Windows Mobile side, and Yes skype works, etc....
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Did you find satellites on your GPS Tool ? either red or green in color ?
Thanks for letting us know that the head set works on wm6 side ....
shawankit said:
Did you find satellites on your GPS Tool ? either red or green in color ?
Thanks for letting us know that the head set works on wm6 side ....
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No problem.
Like I said, zero satelites...
Zhariak said:
No problem.
Like I said, zero satelites...
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Can I ask another favour , do you have any registry editor installed on you shift.
if so , can try to dump/export the registry settings for HKLocalMachine (HKLM) to a xml ot reg file and then copy / upload the xml/reg file here .
we want to use head set with X9500 shift and are trying to find a solution , may be its a reg setting that can fix the problem.
Appreciate your kind help
shawankit said:
Can I ask another favour , do you have any registry editor installed on you shift.
if so , can try to dump/export the registry settings for HKLocalMachine (HKLM) to a xml ot reg file and then copy / upload the xml/reg file here .
we want to use head set with X9500 shift and are trying to find a solution , may be its a reg setting that can fix the problem.
Appreciate your kind help
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I thought all the issues were fixed with the Shift's and headset usage?
Zhariak said:
I thought all the issues were fixed with the Shift's and headset usage?
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Nope , the issue is we cannot use the head set in WM6 as the mic on Head set does not work....so we have to use the speaker phone and its not good for phone calls private or business.
I would appreciate if you can help us to resolve the issue , if you can dump the reg keys for HKLM / Drivers/inbuilt ... it might give us some direction.
Appreciate your support.

Navigator demands data connection at start

Hi all,
firstly the software situation:
I have an HTC Touch Diamond2 wit a german Vodafone branding. Last week i installed the new official upgrade for german Vodafone devices - ROM version 2.16.162.1 HTC Touch Diamond2 (Voda_ DE).
With the old ROM and WM Version i didn't have this problem. Now - with every start of my TomTom Navigator after about 10 seconds a data connection is started. If there's wifi around - wifi, if not - mobile service. When i switch off the connection it stops and for some minutes - until i turn off the navigator it remains switched off. I haven't tested if during some time of the navigation it is turned on again.
In other discussions other users (with other navigation software) have also affirmed, that they also get an unwanted data connection.
Since then i have tried everything that i could think of. I looked over every setting in the TomTom software. Tried over TomTom Home. Tried reinstalling TomTom. Tried resetting to factory settings of TomTom. Nothing helped.
I then made a couple of hardresets of the device and i formatted the memory card also a couple of times. I then installed everything fresh - still demands data connection.
I then tracked the connections with a trafficmonitor software - one time wifi connection, one time mobile service ceonnection.
Looks like this:
WiFi:
system : 3.5 K
WZCSVC.dll : 1.2 K
mobile connection:
system: 1.2 K
WZCSVC.dll is Wireless Zero Configuration Service and i can at least understand why it is making traffic, since wifi is in use.
What is "system"?
Also - why more traffic for "system" with wifi than with mobile connection?
Yesterday i also tracked the connection and there was another .dll service which name i unluckily didn't mark. But it was gps*something*.dll.??
Could AGPS or Quick-GPS have something to do with this behaviour? Or the My Location service? I disabled and declined every setting that i could discover for those services, but i may have overlooked something?
Any ideas?
Please HELP!
Any suggestion would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
Problem solved (looks like it at least).
After installing HD Tweak and disabling A-GPS no data connection starts with starting the navigator.
Glad you solved your issue, but let me witness that in my case (i have A-GPS ON) when i use tomtom (7.916.9189) no data connection is going on. Anyway,just to be sure to keep your problem under control, i advice you to check also the weather update settings.
san.medius said:
After installing HD Tweak and disabling A-GPS no data connection starts with starting the navigator.
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A little worrying. I am off to Amsterdam tomorrow and want to use TTN7 without getting stung for a data connection.
sualc said:
Glad you solved your issue, but let me witness that in my case (i have A-GPS ON) when i use tomtom (7.916.9189) no data connection is going on. Anyway,just to be sure to keep your problem under control, i advice you to check also the weather update settings.
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If you mean the two options which appear directly when the HTC Sence Weather Tab is opened - "update weather automatically" and "update with roaming" - i've checked them many times - they are off. If there is another setting where they can be adjusted i would appreciate it if you told me where and how. But i don't think this is it. Unless TomTom Weather is doing this.
But as i mentiones - there was a gps*something*.dll file, that caused the data transfer - that's why i thought it is something GPS related.
But I wouldn't mind to use another solution because now i think my gps signal is not that strong (at least in buildings).
Do you have 6.5 also? I don't think it could be a ROM thing?
A little worrying. I am off to Amsterdam tomorrow and want to use TTN7 without getting stung for a data connection.
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As far as i could test it it makes the connection just once after starting the navigation. It doesn't keep pulling data the whole time. If it does it the whole time during a navigation - i don't know, haven't tested it.
But you can at least test it quickly before travelling - navigation on - status check. If something's moving - you have a problem.
There is one simple solution - you can either disable all automatic connection types - then you would't be able to surf the internet. In my case i didn't want to have to disable everything and/or to enable it by hand every time i use the navigator.
Or you can install HD Tweak and disable A-GPS. It's really very easy.
http://montecristoff.webs.com/hdtweak.htm
san.medius said:
Or you can install HD Tweak and disable A-GPS. It's really very easy.
http://montecristoff.webs.com/hdtweak.htm
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Thanks. I installed that and it seems that A-GPS is disabled by default. And it doesn't seem to get switched on by TTN7. Now I can wander the streets of Amsterdam without a worry
Mike Austin said:
Thanks. I installed that and it seems that A-GPS is disabled by default. And it doesn't seem to get switched on by TTN7. Now I can wander the streets of Amsterdam without a worry
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Without A-GPS enabled make sure you don't enter the wrong coffeeshop!!
By the way..Also TD2 Tools and Tom's Topaz Setting Tool can enable/disable A-GPS and are more specific for our devices...your choice...and have a nice trip
sualc said:
Without A-GPS enabled make sure you don't enter the wrong coffeeshop!!
By the way..Also TD2 Tools and Tom's Topaz Setting Tool can enable/disable A-GPS and are more specific for our devices...your choice...and have a nice trip
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Hi,
have you tested HD Tweak? I'm just asking for comparison reasons. I used it just because someone said it worked.
If the other two are more suitable for the Topaz i would of course prefer them. Is there "a better one" comparing the two?
P.S. Following question just entered my mind. If i uninstall the other tweak software what happens with the changes i made with it. I mean i guess it changes values in the registry so that the settings are changed? I suppose everything will stay as the software "left" it before being uninstalled?
I use HDTweak to increase overall sound volume only. I had it installed for months in a previous config and I was quite happy with it, but the specific tweak apps look more friendly to me. I guess that if you uninstall hdtweak without restoring the default settings you will keep the tweaks applied..at your own risk

No GPS sat lock

I've had the imagio for about 2 weeks not. and can't get the GPS to work. I've tried every reg edit I can't find. Tried useing GPSID.dll rather then GPSID_HTC.dll. I tried installing the GPSModDrivers. Ran QuickGPS. Done Hard resets and half a dozen flashes. Nothing. The only program that works in Verizon's VZ Nav. TomTom, Google maps, Bing never get any sat lock. I'd say it was my phone but my dad's and the floor model at our Verizon store all have the same problems. The guy at Verizon said it was an issue with a lot of them and HTC was working on an updated rom for it. But that could be crap. Any ideas?
You probably have a faulty unit - my GPS always locks pretty quickly.
Agreed. My GPS works flawlessly. I use it all the time with TrackMe.
Never had the first problem with the GPS , works great with Google and Bing maps. Yours Dad's phone must be defective , swap it out for a new one.
Just wondering...
Start/Settings/System/External GPS on Access tab, did you marked
"Manage GPS atomatically (recommended)
If you don't do this, have you tried setting the Com Port Manually? I have a felling that if VZ works that is just a configuration issue.
As a last resource, you could use a terminal program like Token2Shell Mobile (free 30 Trial) to read the Com port "Usually Com4" and 4800 Baud and check the NMEA string coming in, here is a example from mine.
$GPGGA,204838.8,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,1,08,1.20,19.00,M,-2.00,M,,*56
$GPRMC,204838.8,A,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,21.60,268.00,021109,,*27
$GPGLL,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,204838.8,A*22
$GPGSA,A,3,02,04,05,09,10,12,17,27,,,,,2.60,1.20,2.40*08
$GPGSV,3,1,10,12,45,313,30,04,55,028,25,10,31,174,24,02,69,293,21*72
$GPGSV,3,2,10,09,21,243,21,05,24,182,21,17,27,080,20,28,03,143,16*7F
$GPGSV,3,3,10,27,19,237,14,30,11,319,14*7B
The bold is the amount of Satellites, in this case 8
Hope this gave you some ideas, let us know if it works for you...
Sorry for the double post working from device.
Keep in mind that some of the things you may have installed to correct the issue may have negatively affect registry settings, sync your contacts and do a hard reset on the device. And do not set up VZ nav when you bring it up.
Then do this:
Install Google maps
Make Sure your Location Setting is "on" in the phone settings. If it is on then toggle it to "911" hit okay on upper right corner then go back into it and toggle it back on and hit okay.
Soft Reset and let boat up completely
Open Google Maps And make sure USE GPS is not checked.
Click "X" in top corner to let it run in the background
Run Quick GPS and select "Download"
Open Google Maps again and select "USE GPS" make sure you have a clear view of the sky and it should take less than one minute to lock
Sometimes a soft reset is required to get a gps lock.
Actually, It is a known issue with the particular gpsone chipset. It's an issue with location caching with agps, but this phone comes stock with agps disabled. However, I have not heard that many complaints on this forum, of course not everybody uses gps. If you soft reset before you try and use you shouldn't have issues. Trust me this is my third HTC touch series phone with this issue (diamond, touch pro, imagio). With my imagio it suddenly stopped having this issue, wierd. I used to use a program called HTC gps tool on my touch pro that would clear the cache for you without having to soft reset each time you might want to do some searching, not sure if it works with wvga screens.
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Just wondering...
Start/Settings/System/External GPS on Access tab, did you marked
"Manage GPS atomatically (recommended)
If you don't do this, have you tried setting the Com Port Manually? I have a felling that if VZ works that is just a configuration issue.
As a last resource, you could use a terminal program like Token2Shell Mobile (free 30 Trial) to read the Com port "Usually Com4" and 4800 Baud and check the NMEA string coming in, here is a example from mine.
$GPGGA,204838.8,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,1,08,1.20,19.00,M,-2.00,M,,*56
$GPRMC,204838.8,A,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,21.60,268.00,021109,,*27
$GPGLL,2949.9400,N,09532.6595,W,204838.8,A*22
$GPGSA,A,3,02,04,05,09,10,12,17,27,,,,,2.60,1.20,2.40*08
$GPGSV,3,1,10,12,45,313,30,04,55,028,25,10,31,174,24,02,69,293,21*72
$GPGSV,3,2,10,09,21,243,21,05,24,182,21,17,27,080,20,28,03,143,16*7F
$GPGSV,3,3,10,27,19,237,14,30,11,319,14*7B
The bold is the amount of Satellites, in this case 8
Hope this gave you some ideas, let us know if it works for you...
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I concur if it was a hardware issue VZ nav wouldn't work.
Sweeny Russ:
I being looking for a program to manage the GPS chipset, I use many kinds of GPS devices for work and it would be the first time I see a GPS device I can't program/manage. Gpsone chipset is the GPS on board device? Do you have a link for this HTC GPS program? I wonder if I can actually program with it...worth asking
One of my friends had the same problem as you mentioned. I asked him to do a hard reset and after a HR, the GPS has been working smoothly. Please try a HR!
I have no complain about my Imagio's GPS because it works much more than I expected. I can get 7-8 sattelites fixed in house, near the window where my old phone Touch HD could not fix any sattlelite.
I'm about to try bastukee suggestion. Giakhoa are you saying do a hard reset after a hard reset?
bastukee This is what I got, any ideas?
$GPGGA,,,,,,0,,,,,,,,*66
$GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,*31
$GPGLL,,,,,,A*11
$GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,50.00,50.00,50.00*35
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Sweeny Russ:
I being looking for a program to manage the GPS chipset, I use many kinds of GPS devices for work and it would be the first time I see a GPS device I can't program/manage. Gpsone chipset is the GPS on board device? Do you have a link for this HTC GPS program? I wonder if I can actually program with it...worth asking
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Let me know how this pans out. I haven't used this new version but it will allow you to play around with some setting my gps locks instantly so I'm not going to mess with it I just now it works on vga, you might need a screen rotate app to read all settings.
Original Post where I found it is here
Sweeny, Program works nice. it's an easier way to see the data then the program bastukee gave me. But sadly I don't know what half the options do and it still gives me the same date I posted in #12. Thoughts anyone?
That's exactly what you would get when satelites are not being seen, in fact you can't even see a Clock. Once I finish this 3 day trip to India and settle I will try that program and see how my settings look like and post screenies. "I'm a zombie atm"
Thanks for the help. I'm going crazy trying to get this to work.
While bastukee is on his trip, anyone else have any ideas?
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While bastukee is on his trip, anyone else have any ideas?
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be sure ur using com port 4
There's where I got the data that matched the data bastukee showed me. And the one in the settings.
I might be pointing out the obvious but, did you try this outside? After like a minute?

No trace of anything GPS in wm6

I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw
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I have a p3300 obviously that i bought with wm6 already on it. The problem is, there is no trace of gps in the registry and in the settings there is only an option for external gps, nothing more. Is there a way to install drivers for the gps only? I'm not sure i'm comfortable flashing seeing as there are so many roms out there for different carriers.. I'm on fido in canada btw
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Hi
If you mean GPS program, you could always install Navigon.
http://www.navigon.com/portal/sites.html
There is a 30 days free testversion of their Navigator7.
Just remember to change COM-port from 4 to 7 on either the device or in the program.
Oh my mistake, what I meant was that I can not get any satellites with any program. I flashed it yesterday to WM6.1 (Andrew82) but aside from some slight improvements, it made no difference to the function of the gps. I cannot get a fix from any software that i've tried, it's as if the GPS isn't there (although gps test 1.04 says that the gps is starting up, nothing happens). Are there some drivers or something that I can install?
I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
Also if it helps, I only have a setting for external gps, there is nothing with just GPS there in system...
I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
Also, the HTC gps tool says "Fix not available"
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I tried setting com ports to 7/none/4800/auto However, I though it was supposed to be 4/none/4800/auto in the settings, no?
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It is only the NAVIGON software that uses COM7.
Others I have seen, use COM4. - (So unless you change to Navigon, use COM4.)
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I've tried all kinds of resets, factory rom, but its the same story im afraid... Any ideas HIGHLY appreciated
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I also use AndreW82, but it has no GPS software.
So I use Tomtom Navigator 7
If you use other GPS-software, - have you checked that the program asks for COM4?
Probably som .dat file or something that needs to be altered to COM4.
I had the same problem when I tried Navigon.
First it reported "no GPS found" But after I altered one of the .dat files to COM4, it found the GPS.
(But it took a veeeeeeeeery long time before it found the first sattelites.)
If you want to try, I have attached a test-version of Tomtom. (tomtom7.cab below)
According to Tomtom, NO such testversion exists.
But if you try it, you will at least see if your GPS is working.
(I don't know if it has any maps for Canadian Cities, but at least it should let you see if it finds any sattelites.)
1. Install the cab.
2. Start Tomtom Navigator
3. If settings does not come up automatically, just tap somewhere on the screen.
4. Select, Change preferences
5. Tap blue arrow 5 times
6. Tap Config GPS
And wait for it to find sattelites. Be patient, first time it takes a little longer time.

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