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Getting Word Completion to learn new words!

OK, this may just be a Pocket PC thing rather than a specific XDA II thing but I'm not sure.
Can anyone tell me if their XDA is learning frequently used words that are not in it's dictionary. For example, my name's Ravi and after a couple of weeks of typing emails, letters etc all ending '... Ravi', it's still not learnt the word. All it suggests is 'Ravaged' (!!)
This morning, I got a bit fed up of this so I created a note and typed in 'Ravi' about 100 times and guess what, it still doesn't learn it.
Is there a trick to getting the dictionary to learn new words or is it just my name it can't stand !!
Maybe someone else can try this and see if it works !
Ravaged

Ravi,
Did you ever sort this out?
I would love to enter a few words (including my name!) in to the database
Ashby

Check out Fitaly. 60 days trial. You will be able to build own shortcuts. And I think it's a much faster SIP then the others.

Ravi said:
Can anyone tell me if their XDA is learning frequently used words that are not in it's dictionary.
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I'm not sure if the XDA learns new words by itself, but you can add words. Not sure if there's a simpler way, but this (rather complicated one) works:
- open any transcriber-aware application
- write the word you want to add, using keyboard or transcriber
- mark (highlight) the word
- switch to transcriber; if the second row of icons is not visible, tap on the hand icon
- tap on the icon with the red check mark to open the "corrector window" (not sure if this is the correct translation for "Korrekturfenster" ); the highlighted word will appear in the new window
- double-tap anywhere inside the word.
- in the menu that (hopefully) comes up, chose "add to dictionary" ("Dem Wörterbuch hinzufügen")
Voila, you're all set!
But please be careful - I didn't yet find a way to remove words from the dictionary...
Cheers
Daniel

many thanks,
ashby

Never sorted it out - everyone I spoke to said that the OS doesn't add new words. I'm just about to buy Calligrapher - I tried the demo and it's amazing - I'm not sure that this feature is available on this program either though. I guess I've just given up adding new words but I will try Daniel's method outlined above.
BTW I tried Fitaly and what the hell were they thinking ? Is it supposed to be an easier input method than what we have already or is it just designed to fry your brain ?!!
TenGo's pretty decent though !
thanks all
Ravi

Getting Word Completion to learn dutch!
Does anyone know how to change the word completion dictionary on my Qtek 2020 / PPC 2003 to another dictionary / language?
It is said that in PPC 2002 you could swap the file \Windows\user.dct, but not on PPC 2003 (the file is apparently not there).

Try out WordLogic: http://www.wordlogic.net/software.html
Not cheap, but works very well!

What's your favourite input method? Do you use any software?

I am just wondering what a lot of people use as their default Input Method on their PPCs.
I've used almost all of them except transcriber. Which is strange cause sometimes it makes the best sense. But the slight delay in recognition always kept me from making it my input method of choice.
So will everyone share what methods they have used? are using or prefer using? Does it differ based on what you are doing? I pick one and stick to it. Mostly its Letter Recognizer but lately I've been using the keyboard a lot.
I've noticed one issue with letter recognizer. I used it "full-time" on my previous pda and after a while because of excessive use of the graffiti input area, that area of the screen became a little insensitive to input so i had to press harder than usual for it to recognize my input.. Did this ever happen toyou or anyone?
So after that I'm a little scared to do the same thing to my XDA II therefore i am using the keyboard so that my screen taps are more evenly spread out. But i prefer the letter recognizer. Anyone else have similar experiences?

Personally I like keyb, transcriber, or my targus keyb.
Also,
when you click the selection box to choose which input method to use, go to options, select transcriber, and click options. You can change how long it takes to translate, and with what quality. I have mine set to high quality with almost no delay. I can write a word, and by the time my stylus is back to where I started, it's ready for the next. Although, I wish I could custom write a recognition DB instead of using MS's standard DB. Alot of letters I write a little differently or specificly (like 6 or b).

I've been using Calligrapher for a number of years now and find it superb.

I too am a long time user of CalliGrapher and am very happy with it. The recognition works very well and I do not have to alter my writing style at all. It's software keyboard is also very good and suggests many more words as you type (which you can then select instead of typing the entire word).
I was a little disappointed when PhadPad applet was removed and developed into a separate stand alone application but I found it so useful I elected to buy it anyway.
Ed

I am trying Decuma OnSpot. its a really nice and easy to use input method for the Palm and PPC. I havent tried caligrapher.
Has anyone else used both these products? Can you compare them? I am pretty happy with the Decuma (as of last night).

Tried TenGo and found it quite good for normal notes etc. However when you go to write an SMS, the other inputs - Keyboard, Letter Recogniser etc will auto find your contact after the first couple of letters in the address to: field.
I find that TenGo does not do this and for me that makes it not as useful.
Also, tried Fitaly, jury is still out decided if I like it or not. To be honest it's 'clumsy' the letters in different positions is sooooo consfusing initially. Mostly I use letter recogniser which I get on well with.
Cheers

I always use the Letter Recognizer, and the standard Keyboard when entering passwords etc. the Block Recognizer and Transcriber I have never got on with!!

settings
Perhaps you guys can help. I found the registry setting to set the input method permanently be letter recogniser. So when every you turn of the the device or reset it it alays comes up with lettere recogoniser. But I had a crash recently and now I cannnot remember what it was.
Any ideas?

Re: What's your favourite input method? Do you use any softw
humayunl said:
that area of the screen became a little insensitive
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I usually use letter recognizer, I think it's a quite fast method. But it can't write "ő" and "ű" letters, only "o~" and "u^" :-(
Yes, yes. Sreen become insensitive after a half or one year useage.
I use a self-made input method, it's name Blimkeys. You can write letters on your XDA similar to write letters on a generic mobile phone. Support different languages. Check my signature!
Gábor

I use MessageEase from www.exideas.com. It took me a little while to get used to the layout but I find it extremely easy to use.
I prefer it to fitaly as I tried that but tended to use message ease a lot more.
The advantage with MessageEase is that you can change it into a larger size panel and u can even use your finger to write.

mindracing said:
I've been using Calligrapher for a number of years now and find it superb.
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Amen to that!
I've written a couple of comparative reviews regarding input methods for the XdaII/Pocket PC, they can be found here...
Comparative review of alternative input methods for the XDA II
Follow-up Review of Input Methods for the Xda II

Personally I found letter recognizer is quite. Maybe I just need to enter standard english so special characters won't bother me at all!

I use the kb mainly for almost anything, is the fastest using two my well groomed thumb-nails tapping technique.. Once a while I will use transcriber for composing long letter/notes. Given up on those letter/block recognizer since I ruined my cassiopeia through excessive use.

Unlocking
having problems with unlocking Xda II using both softwares
it comes up with the error
xda2unlock.exe v2.2
Welcome to your Himalaya network locking repair tool!
This tool is free of charge....... (Or so it was when it left the factory)
Start of repair process......
Preparing modem ......
performing magic ....
Read: 9, [] []ERROR [] []
Failed to do magic
Unfortunately it seems the repair was not successful. Maybe you can find help at http://forum.xda-developers.com which I went to down loaded but stil cut unlock.
When I discount the USB the screen on Xda stays at USB v1.01 so cant do anything with it any reason why this would happen
Please help

registry settings for default input method
Just so it is here because it took me ages to find it. :lol:
Set Letter Recognizer as default input method
Whenever you soft-reset, the input method reverts to the keyboard. Changing this registry entry will set it to your desired default each time.
KEY: \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\
NEW VALUES: DefaultIm =
Input type
Set to this String value
Keyboard {42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}
Letter Recognizer {42429690-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}
Block Recognizer {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}

Re: registry settings for default input method
thanks for registry settings - a great help, Cheers

humayunl said:
I am trying Decuma OnSpot. its a really nice and easy to use input method for the Palm and PPC. I havent tried caligrapher.
Has anyone else used both these products? Can you compare them? I am pretty happy with the Decuma (as of last night).
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I've tried both of them and more besides - I still come back to Calligrapher, nothing else to touch it IMHO. See my comparitive reviews here and here.

Re: What's your favourite input method? Do you use any softw
Sallala said:
humayunl said:
that area of the screen became a little insensitive
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I usually use letter recognizer, I think it's a quite fast method. But it can't write "ő" and "ű" letters, only "o~" and "u^" :-(
Yes, yes. Sreen become insensitive after a half or one year useage.
I use a self-made input method, it's name Blimkeys. You can write letters on your XDA similar to write letters on a generic mobile phone. Support different languages. Check my signature!
Gábor
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Hi Gábor!
Blimkeys is great.
Had to adjust it for German characters and for big thumbs like mine (not only bigger fields but also fatter frames around the fields).

WinMob 6.5 Input issue

Hi,
I installed the 6.5 rom on my Hermes/TYTN but have some input issues.
When entering text something very annoying happens.
After typing the first or second character of a word the cursor always jumps back one or two places, as result the rest of the word is put in front of the first character(s).
For example, if I want type "handheld", I get this result "ndheldHa".
As you understand this is very annoying and I have to pay attention every time.
This occurs in almost every application (Agenda, Tasks, Excel, ...) but it never happens with the first word, only on the next ones.
The only application which is not affected is SMS (fortunately).
I already tried changing the input, keyboard and dictionary options but did not find a solution.
Does anyone has a clue how to resolve this ?
Couldn't find any trace on Google or the forum either ...
Thanks in advance

i got the same problem here

Text Input question

All phones I've had over the past god knows how many years have all had the ability to automatically save any new words that I might type, but my HD2 does not seem to do so.
What I mean by this is that if I type a word that is not in the phone's dictionary/predictive text, if I manually typed in the word without the predictive text it would remember it for next time, and each time after that. Or in the case of the iphone it would remember it and be able to use it in the auto correct feature. However, the HD2 doesn't. Can you set it so that it does? I've seen in the hints and tips section that you can manually add to the words recognised by predictive text, but not found anything that suggests how it can 'autosave' words.
Any ideas? I'd be amazed if a phone like this hasn't got this feature, as like I said you've been able to do it on other phones for years.
Cheers

snerkler said:
All phones I've had over the past god knows how many years have all had the ability to automatically save any new words that I might type, but my HD2 does not seem to do so.
What I mean by this is that if I type a word that is not in the phone's dictionary/predictive text, if I manually typed in the word without the predictive text it would remember it for next time, and each time after that. Or in the case of the iphone it would remember it and be able to use it in the auto correct feature. However, the HD2 doesn't. Can you set it so that it does? I've seen in the hints and tips section that you can manually add to the words recognised by predictive text, but not found anything that suggests how it can 'autosave' words.
Any ideas? I'd be amazed if a phone like this hasn't got this feature, as like I said you've been able to do it on other phones for years.
Cheers
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It learns gradually from your typing and language style. There is no way to force a word into the dictionary (through the UI), but if you've typed it a few times, and selected it from the suggestions, it just starts to show up. I think it's just a list of suggestions sorted in the order of most commonly used.

It does for me.
You write the full word and it appears as a marked word(as seen in pic nr one). When it does just press it ones and the next time you begin writing it it should suggest it(pic two).

SirChesterfield said:
It does for me.
You write the full word and it appears as a marked word(as seen in pic nr one). When it does just press it ones and the next time you begin writing it it should suggest it(pic two).
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Hmm, mine doesn't seem to do that. When you write the word for the first time do you have it in XT9 or ABC mode?
Also I've just noticed your name. Are you named after the town or the furniture?

I believe that the suggestions are add automatically... To see and add directly..
Navigate to the windows directory and look for
"eT9MyWords.exe"
That will launch the application with the words in.

Word completion on HD2

Just switched to HD2 after Tytn. I like it a lot except one thing: the word suggestion on HD2 is noncence and also very disturbing while typing.
For instance if i would start to type "hello" it suggesting "bell"
if i start to type "button" it suggesting "bury" ant "nutt". Total noncence
How to get old good word completion which i had on WM 6.1 in email app and IE?
Any help would be greately appreciated!

any solution?

or may be someone can recommend another keyboard similar to HTC default one, but with good word completion? Swype has good word completion, but this keyboard functions in totally different way..

this is strange - no one need this great feature? before my HD2 i got a SE Xperia X1. the HD2 beat the X1 all the time - but on the X1 Rom's (also 6.5) the word completion feature works very well.
i don't understand thats why HTC disable this great thing!
sorry for my bad english and grammer - but i am a KRAUT
i hope there is anybody out there who can bring us back this kinda helpful thing.
cu
Tastenchef

the word completion may be cranky at start, yet on my italian setup I noticed it will start suggesting first the words you use most often, so you probably just need to give it more time