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The warranty for my HD is gone and I would probably need to change the touch screen digitizer myself, found these on ebay for ~60€, but does anyone know how to change them? Again, any help would be appreciated!
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HTC Touch HD, it has been a wonderful phone until now. I have encountered a wierd problem with the touchscreen.
First the touchscreen stopped working completely, after awhile it suddenly started working, at first it recognized some bits and pieces but now it recognizes every touch as normal, except..
It is very inaccurate and the "sum of inaccurity" seems to change depending on where I push the screen, the screen alignment option in settings does not fix this.
I recorded two videos to show this problem better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd1vjiHr2QU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TynTTFIQJv8
Any help would be appreciated on how to fix this!
looks broken id return under warrenty did it get any knocks / drops? do you have insurance?~
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looks broken id return under warrenty did it get any knocks / drops? do you have insurance?~
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I have handled it with great care so no big knocks or drops. Ill contact the store about the warranty. Just wondered if theres a way how to simply fix this.
Just noticed, the screen works normally sometimes for one touch, then it goes back to the inaccurate **** :/
Im now guessing that some cable could be loose or something like that?
Have u tried recalibrating the screen? I can't remember exactly where I found it, but its in programs or settings somewhere.
Viba said:
...the screen alignment option in settings does not fix this...
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Yes I have..
Anyway I RMA'd it now. Hope I get a new one
I can tell you from previous experience, HTC does NOT warranty touch screens. You mentioned "a store", so I hope they help you, because HTC will not. >sigh<
Seems a little unfair if they don't seeing as the HD is purely touch screen!
SomethingWicked said:
I can tell you from previous experience, HTC does NOT warranty touch screens. You mentioned "a store", so I hope they help you, because HTC will not. >sigh<
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Hmmh, well the store probably sends it to some service center here in Finland that fixes HTC phones.
Indeed sounds very stupid if the warranty doesnt cover the touchscreen.
Perhaps my HD suffered from something else than a broken touchscreen, eg. mainboard or a chip that controls the touch screen. Who knows I'm just hoping it "passes" the warranty :|
Well... Had Hard-SPL on my touch hd and duttys 1.7 rom, so the warranty is gone
Didn't know they were so picky about it, they said it would cost 605€ to repair the screen. So now I should probably start looking for a screen digitizer on ebay and some help on how to change it... Already downloaded the service manual, but there was nothing on how to change the digitizer, could anyone here show me some light to this? Thanks.
I have dismantle my HD to see if there's any way to change only the screen (it's broken)
There's no way, as far as I saw. You have to replace LCD, tourch screen and screen. It's one piece and there's no way easy way to open it without break it.
You can find all of them for about 200E.
drabisan said:
I have dismantle my HD to see if there's any way to change only the screen (it's broken)
There's no way, as far as I saw. You have to replace LCD, tourch screen and screen. It's one piece and there's no way easy way to open it without break it.
You can find all of them for about 200E.
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So there's no way I could replace only this?
http://global.ebay.com/Original_Digitizer_Touch_Screen_For_HTC_Touch_HD/310124432320/item
Another sad story // hopefully with a good ending
I kinda have the same problem as Viba and others. Sorry for the looong post. But decided to describe in more details my experience up to now, and hope you can help as well.
All of a sudden, I started having problems with the touch screen of the Touch HD. I started noticing that whenever I touched the Touchflo buttons, the phone vibrated. Soon I came to realize the if I touched in some spot, the phone recognized that I was touching lower, to the point that it could not recognize touches in the taskbar, for instance.
The united has 2 or 3 months max. It had some falls before and I do not really know who (or which one) was the culprit.
Tried this as fix: re-alignment, hardresets, Official ROM upgrade. Then I started reading and understanding that the problem was probably the digitizer ("nice to meet you").
I live in Brazil and the Touch HD is not expected be released here any time soon. So the few HTC service centers do not know how to fix it and do not have parts for it. And also, I bought mine from an auction site by some user who bought it abroad, with no warranty whatsoever. I am left alone in this.
I was very frustrated and eager to get my device running again. So I started looking for a new digitizer and also the tools to open my phone. The digitizer (just the digitizer, not the LCD screen) I ordered from an ebay shop in Hong Kong on Monday and is expected to still arrive sometime in this century (IF Brazilian port authorities do not mess up). The tools arrived yesterday.
I downloaded the service manual and said to myself, let's see if the digitizer problem is maybe due to a loose flat cable. Got to work and carefully disassembled the device as per the service manual. (I have to say that, although I try to be carefull, I always scratch, bend or mess something up when I do jobs like these. So I was afraid of cracking some plastic or worse and actually did some.)
Up to where the service manual show, it went incredibly very well. But that's the problem. The service manual guides you to disassemble the unit up to the point where you are with the bezel, LCD and digitizer in one piece.
But hey! I saw zillions of internet shops selling the bezel (actually, the hole housing, but with no LCD), the digitizer or other parts separately! What is going on?
So I started trying to unmount the bezel, LCD and digitizer. Tried several things. It got really late. I was impactient. So I tried splitting the digitizer from the LCD, by inserting a hard plastic aluminium tip between the digitizer and the housing. A very thin plastic kind of tape came out (at lest part of it). So I tried doing it more. No success. And then I put a very thin screwdriver between then (just enough to get an ulgy bent it the plastic housing).
When I had played enough with that puzzle, I gave up and began mounting everything back. The good part is that I was able to get everything back and the phone is working. Well, except for the digitizer.
First thing I did was to kidnap the wife's Nokia E71 I bought her last month and she is not using yet (she couldn't learn to use yet; well, she hasn't even tried it), because I have to have mobile access to my emails.
And I really started now to consider other alternatives. Will some user like me EVER be able to change just the digitizer? Is it even possible? If it is, I would like to give it at least another shot.
But I am also afraid that it could be another part which is in failure. I just don't want to spend more $$$$ in this. It would be better to buy another phone (and maybe not a complete touchscreen - gosh, I miss my Tytn II). I so regret being a gadget freak and not waiting a release in my country.
Shoud I send my phone abroad for a service center repair? My sister lives in Dubai and she may be able to help.
Should I give up my unit and seel the used parts in ebay?
Hope to hear your suggestions. Thanks anyway.
Viba said:
Well... Had Hard-SPL on my touch hd and duttys 1.7 rom, so the warranty is gone
Didn't know they were so picky about it, they said it would cost 605€ to repair the screen. So now I should probably start looking for a screen digitizer on ebay and some help on how to change it... Already downloaded the service manual, but there was nothing on how to change the digitizer, could anyone here show me some light to this? Thanks.
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before doing this what about removing hspl and reflashing back a stock rom
change shop and you might, and i say MIGHT, be lucky
much better than screwing up the machine
Rafael K said:
I kinda have the same problem as Viba and others. Sorry for the looong post. But decided to describe in more details my experience up to now, and hope you can help as well...
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Nice to know I'm not alone with this problem
Sucks that the digitizer couldn't be removed separately, would help alot if someone knew how to do this, if even possible..
crashDebug said:
before doing this what about removing hspl and reflashing back a stock rom
change shop and you might, and i say MIGHT, be lucky
much better than screwing up the machine
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I have already tried with 3 custom roms and 2 original SPL:s with two original roms.
The Finnish law allows me to get my HD replaced if I could prove that the custom rom didn't brake the digitizer. Already sent some emails to the local repairstation for HTC phones here in Finland, lets see...
I run a repair center (US). I have not gotten curious enough to take mine apart, but if someone has a dead one to experiment with, PM me.
Broken digitizer glass
I have the same problem with the digitizer glass being broken. I have had the back off the phone and stripped it back as far as I dare, but the service manual just doesn't tell you how to replace the digitizer and glass only. Checked out youtube where there are many videos with instructions on how to replace the screens and digitizers on lots of different phones as well as the iphone, just nothing on the Blackstone yet.
Any one else found a solution or decent instructions?
Today I disassembled my HD too, found a loose screen wire but nothing else. Even when I attached it properly the screen didn't work.
Has anyone found out how to change the digitizer?
some info
Hello,
I am also have HTC Touch HD, and I am also thinking about replacement of touch screen and housing because of scratches. Here instruction in Russian
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/htc-touch-hd/
step 24 is not shown on the picture, but there is mentioned that in order to replace screen you should push it forward from back side of the screen; also mentioned that screen is fixed with double sided tape (probably it is fixed to the touch screen)
Also, did you try to use any polish to remove minor scratches on the touch screen? HTC Touch HS has resistive screen and probably may be polished (in contrast to capacitive touch screen that has some coating).
All the best
Also, about this problem see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3911326
You guys should be smarter! If you want to warranty exchange it, flash the normal SPL again and flash a stock rom!
well, my htc touch a while developed this look in certain lighting conditions with the screen backlight off that can only be described as looking like a opilspill, and i thought it might of been the touchscreen layers seperating, but untill just now it still worked fine so i wasnt too bothered, was working great one miniute and the next miniute i went to send a text and the touchscreen wasent responding. i tried a hard and soft reset , nothing and right now im extremly pi**ed off as i loved that phone and havent really got the cash for another one .
my question is what is the lightlyhood that the only thing gone is the digitiser, and has anyone used any of them dodgey chinese sellers on ebay as thats the only place i can fine them i dont wanna be leaving XDA developers so early
any advice will be aprieciated, feel like a famy pet jus died or summan
EDIT: dont think its relevent but im using the blue elves rom v6 i think
well you can try mymobiler and use your pc to try and correct any issues
i think the issue might be hardware as i have done a hard reset, did try using mymobiler just to use the phone after i had hard reset, but its either a bug or the way that the touchpads calibrated that i cant now after a hard reset.
what happens is the inital tap the screen to setup, that works, but mymobiler wont allow me to to the screen taps to calibrate.
Back to the box than till i can find a faulty one on ebay in the uk
Find another faulty one of eBay? Why not send it in to HTC and make use of their manufacturer warranty, hopefully its still covered. But worth a shot.
am going to do just that. it was definatly the digitiser have managed to get tho old digitiser working in a strange way, just pressure over time, am posting on it now, but its gonna need replacing but at least I got my phone back thanks everybody
what you are describing is newton rings
Beware of HTC's large screen phones.
Any force applied to them, even taking off a screen protector, is enough to produce "newton rings" and the screen stops responding to touch.
Not much use for a touch screen phone.
HTC refuse to cover this by warranty and refuse to negotiate. expect to shell out up to $500 to repair it. With no guarantee that the next screen won't do the same thing.
Design or Materials fault but they won't cover it by warranty.
well at least i know what caused it, sorted it a while back by replacing the digitsier myself. ended up getting it from the chinese ebay seller. before that i took out the digitiser, applied weight to the top and froze it lol, it worked but i replaced the digitiser anyway.
thanks for all your replys
I remember reading a thread about this back when the HD2 was released, but I haven't really thought about it until now.
Since I bought it on the release date, I've been having problems typing on my HD2. The keyboard seems over sensitive and not accurate. When I press one letter, I genereally get the one next to it. When I try and delete the accidental character, I end up typing a heap of L's, M's and P's!
If I do the screen re-alignment it seems to be better for a while, but then after a reboot (which you need to do every couple of days with WinMo!) it goes bad again.
I hate texting now and entering passwords is impossible! I've got to the point where sometimes I want to throw the damn thing away.
I've had 2 iPhones, and HTC Touch Diamond and Touch HD previously so I know its not me. If I try my father-in-laws HD2, I can work it no problem.
I contacted HTC who told me to try a Hard Reset - but as I flash ROMS frequently I know this isn't going to make a difference. They said to contact them if the Hard Reset doesnt work and send the phone in for repair.
Obviously I'll need to reflash a stock ROM first!
Has anyone sent their phone back and what happened? Did it get fixed, and how long does it take?
p3eps said:
I remember reading a thread about this back when the HD2 was released, but I haven't really thought about it until now.
Since I bought it on the release date, I've been having problems typing on my HD2. The keyboard seems over sensitive and not accurate. When I press one letter, I genereally get the one next to it. When I try and delete the accidental character, I end up typing a heap of L's, M's and P's!
If I do the screen re-alignment it seems to be better for a while, but then after a reboot (which you need to do every couple of days with WinMo!) it goes bad again.
I hate texting now and entering passwords is impossible! I've got to the point where sometimes I want to throw the damn thing away.
I've had 2 iPhones, and HTC Touch Diamond and Touch HD previously so I know its not me. If I try my father-in-laws HD2, I can work it no problem.
I contacted HTC who told me to try a Hard Reset - but as I flash ROMS frequently I know this isn't going to make a difference. They said to contact them if the Hard Reset doesnt work and send the phone in for repair.
Obviously I'll need to reflash a stock ROM first!
Has anyone sent their phone back and what happened? Did it get fixed, and how long does it take?
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i have the shaking screen issue when zooming and i cannot detect if it is hardware issue or software or it is normal
Search for "weird touchscreen behaviour".
If you send it back to HTC they'll change the screen and it will come back fixed, or they'll do something random and it won't.
I don't think its just you, I have similar issues! I'm learning to type slower, and there are some links in the tips & hints thread that may help.
I reflashed back to the stock ROM and surprise surprise, same problem.
I emailed HTC back who then said it would have to come back for repair.
They said to phone them to arrange, so its all set up - being collected by UPS tomorrow. Hopefully it will all get sorted.
On another note - I'm now using an old Nokia 3600 Slide while my HD2 is all packed up. I'm loving having an old keypad again! Texting is a delight again, and the small form factor of this phone is great. Its a shame the screen is tiny and the Opera Mini functionality is poop!!
If HTC did a modern version of the Touch Dual with a big touch screen and a slide out keyboard then I'd buy one in a flash! Maybe I'll get a Touch Pro 3 when it comes out
did you try this?? it works for me.Hope it helps
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did you try this?? it works for me.Hope it helps
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I have been using that - or a similar one - for the last few months, which helps a bit. The problem isn't the sensitivity though, its the accuracy of the screen. When I press 'P' I get 'O', or 'R' I get 'E'. Its like its not quite lined up correctly.
hmm... I had exactly the same problem,but just because screen was too sensitive and this cab helped. Have you also tried align screen??
If this one won`t help I think your fingers are too big (sorry,joke)
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i have the shaking screen issue when zooming and i cannot detect if it is hardware issue or software or it is normal
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I have the same issue...
Registry tweaks to decrease sensibility help but I think is a hardware problem, so I'd like to know if someone has sent his phone for repair
patton82 said:
I have the same issue...
Registry tweaks to decrease sensibility help but I think is a hardware problem, so I'd like to know if someone has sent his phone for repair
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all my friends iphones have this issue but less than hd2 i think it is capastive screen issue
Sent mine back to O2, not HTC. I was getting light blotches on the screen in various places, they were very prominent when displaying light colours and they were getting gradually worse. Got it back yesterday and it looks brand new.
Did you flash the phone back to stock at all?
Yes, you need to remove the HSPL and that can only be done by flashing a stock rom from the memory stick - USB flashes the stock rom but leaves the HSPL intact. If you don't they will send it back to you saying the warranty is void. As well as replacing my screen they upgraded the stock O2 rom I had on it so they obviously check the software even if it's a hardware issue you have sent it back for. It goes without saying the first thing I did when I opened the box was replace the HSPL and flash Xannytech's Evolution.
I know to get rid of it, was just wondering if you did
Touch wood never had to send mine back but at least they can't tell you've HSPL'd it in the past...
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all my friends iphones have this issue but less than hd2 i think it is capastive screen issue
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Not all HD2 have this issues, at default (without registry tweaks) was impossible to write anything for me.
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Sent mine back to O2, not HTC. I was getting light blotches on the screen in various places, they were very prominent when displaying light colours and they were getting gradually worse. Got it back yesterday and it looks brand new.
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You had a different kind of issue, should know if someone with shaking/poor accurancy screen has sent his phone back
Well folks... my phone was picked up last week by UPS and returned to me today.
Before sending it off I reflashed the stock ROM and got rid of HSPL.
I've tested it a bit and am very happy - so I'm now flashing my Miri ROM back on as I type! HTC have replaced 'LCM (LCD)' and replaced 'Rigid-Flex Board (FPC Board)' as their diagnostic stated 'Touch Panel function abnormally and Camera Flash Malfunction'.
Typing feels like it should as the key I hit is now the one that actually presses. I don't know about the camera as I haven't tried it yet - but I didn't think there was anything wrong with it.
My only complaint is that the phone went in for repair with an HTC Screen Protector fitted, and they must've removed and refitted it - as its full of bubbles and knackered! Never mind - I'll order another one.
If anyone has the problems I described... contact HTC and get it sorted, as this is like using a new phone. Hopefully I won't feel the need to throw it again!
I'm mightily pissed off as I have just had to return my Leo back for the 2nd time with exactly the same problem as I had previously (see above). HTC and their crappy cheap LCDs must be costing them a lot of money.
I've been experiencing almost all the bugs in my HD2, last month i sent it back to HTC for repair.
They changed the touchscreen and display because they thought it wasn't bright enough (i didn't notice that).
I got it back a week ago and immediately saw that i now have a different touchscreen, more dots and diagonal lines can be seen.
All the problems are gone and i haven't been experiencing any problems the last week.
My Advise for people with touchscreen problems, have your touchscreen replaced !
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Sent mine back to O2, not HTC. I was getting light blotches on the screen in various places, they were very prominent when displaying light colours and they were getting gradually worse. Got it back yesterday and it looks brand new.
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i had the white blotches issue too and htc also replaced my screen under warranty (turnaround 11 calendar days) and paid carriage both ways; this despite my lacking a sales invoice, having bought the phone used on ebay and the moisture tab being tripped (which they also replaced).
a very good service from htc only slightly spoiled by the tech who reassembled my phone leaving a fingerprint on the *inside* of the camera lens cover glass which rather than sending it back to them again, i cleaned off myself by means of unscrewing the back panel.
I had cyanogen 7.0.3 (stable) with the theme Dark Ginger since it came out until about 6/17/11 .. I was using the phone texting and web a few minutes before the phone restarted by itself I took it out and saw the HTC screen and put it back in my pocket when I checked the phone back a few minutes later after I unlocked the phone by pressing the track pad the screen was black and I know the phone was on since the command buttons on the front of the phone was on .. So took out battery and reboot about 3/4 of the HTC screen was black and the remaining portion had random white lines running vertically when it got to the second splash it was completely black with a few gray lines and when the phone started up the only thing that was on was the lights on the buttons again .. There is no physical damage on the phone so I know the screen was not cracked and even though the whole screen was black I picked up a call by swiping my fingers across it a few times lol ... Just wanted to share my experience maybe you can't have a rom on your phone more than a month or 2? I guess you have to keep flashing new roms on the phone ... I got a new g2 in the end luckily
that does sound more like physical damage or a manufacturing fault. I would be very very surprised if a rom could do that to a phone
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maybe you can't have a rom on your phone more than a month or 2? I guess you have to keep flashing new roms on the phone
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You kidding? The vast majority of smartphone owners stay on the stock ROM, and are on the same ROM for many months, maybe even years, aside from OTAs (and depending on your phone and carrier, the OTAs can be very infrequent).
I agree with above, what you've described sounds more like a hardware issue. Even if the phone was not damaged, things just go bad after a while. And screen failure is a known issue with this phone.
Its probably a manufactured fault .. When I had my g1 I used to flash new roms every other day or week I had it for 2 years without any problems .. the g2 is the first time I actually left the same rom on my phone for an extended period hence the thought that the rom was to blame was a possibilty since it looked like it got a virus or something when it crashed* so suddenly :/
It doesn't seem like something a ROM would do to your phone.. probably faulty connections to the screen or something..
I've had a nokia and a motorolla do that, one was dead the other was the connector. If it's under warranty, which I doubt since you've flashed it, send it back otherwise open it up and check the ribbon connector to the lcd screen isn't loose (based on how I fixed my moto). Failing that you could probably get a replacement screen off ebay (based on my nokia).
Thanks for all the responses I actually got an exchange for another g2 .. I appreciate all the hard work the devs put into their roms and the time they spent on them I just posted this topic to maybe solve the problem incase someone else is faced with it .. since I don't have the phone anymore I can't verify if it was the screen or some other mechanical problem
I have a Desire Z (bell) that i got off the forums to use with AT&T.. everything went great, i love the phone.. about 3 weeks ago i went to check the phone after leaving it on the charger while i slept and the screen was grey with black lines. all the lights work, and i could even answer phone calls by judging where the slider was. pressing on the screen gets haptic feedback. The phone did not fall while i was asleep. I actually havent dropped it once since i got it (around april)
So i called HTC and the phone is within its 1 year warranty but they said since its a canadian phone i will have to call that carrier, so i called bell and they said "call HTC. If you dont live in canada we wont help!"
So when i call HTC back they tell me to call futuretel and they will fix it. I call futuretel and they say no because im in america.
So i call HTC back again and tell them it is ridiculous that the phone is still under 1 year warranty FROM THEM and they wont fix it. they are supposed to be getting in touch with futuretel for an exception or something but i am tried of waiting.
Attached are pictures of the phone in its current state. It is running cm7 and i had not flashed anything on it for atleast a month before it messed up.
Has anyone else had this problem or have any ideas over what has caused it? I've looked online to find images of another screen doing this and haven't been able to.
i forgot to mention that i offered to pay for the repairs from HTC since i was not the original buyer. They still said they won't work on it. It's not that i dont want to pay for the repair, I cant find anyone to do it!!
You need to fix the screen, mine broke two times:
-Dropped once, the screen was OK, then broke in my pants
-Dropped it again on the floor and my screen broke a second times
Seriously, repair your screen by yourself, you will save about 100$ just because you don't pay for the technician.
Just follow this tutorial, it's pretty easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dR8CHEGjY
Then you may want to buy the screen on ebay with the tools for the phone:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Replacement...&_dmpt=PDA_Accessories&_trksid=p3286.c0.m1538
Good luck!
thanks. i wanted to get a good idea of what needed replaced to see if i could fix it myself. i didn't know if it was the LCD, or the cable ribbon thing or something else. thank you
bfinch said:
thanks. i wanted to get a good idea of what needed replaced to see if i could fix it myself. i didn't know if it was the LCD, or the cable ribbon thing or something else. thank you
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I cannot garantee it's the LCD, but both times I got those kind of white screen + black lines it was the LCD for me.