Why! ?
See http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/564/38/1/5/
For benchmarks
Hmm,
it seems it has an integrated gps .. but NO 3G / UMTS ??? No thanks.
- Superbowl
skearon said:
Why! ?
See http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/564/38/1/5/
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If your gonna link us to somewhere, please make sure it's in English yeah?
If you prefer the other device, that's great, go buy it and be happy. :lol:
I really wouldn't compare, but i cant find details on the Fsc LOOX N500,
but both the LOOX 720 and 420 both use Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC,
so the comparison is flawed to say the least.
PS, Fsc is short for Fujitsu Seimens, trust me i know!!!! something to do with my employment!, and no i cant get you free kit !!!
Is Spb even WM5 compatible?
Carnivor said:
I really wouldn't compare, but i cant find details on the Fsc LOOX N500,
but both the LOOX 720 and 420 both use Microsoft Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC,
so the comparison is flawed to say the least.
PS, Fsc is short for Fujitsu Seimens, trust me i know!!!! something to do with my employment!, and no i cant get you free kit !!!
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Thanks for that Carnivor. Information I can read and understand. Not even WM5.0? Why did they bother to compare two devices which are totally disparate in nature? Anyway, Spb Benchmark, is it yet optimised or been re-written for WM5? If not, then another reason to discard the results!
I felt I had to register just to say this...
The N500 is the unit being tested, not the 720 (which I have myself), or the 420. Both these devices run WM2003SE, but the 720 is due to be upgraded any time soon.
Anyway, the N500 DOES run Wm2005, which you would know if you'd have actually even looked once at the article, and thus, it IS a fair comparision.
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I felt I had to register just to say this...
The N500 is the unit being tested, not the 720 (which I have myself), or the 420. Both these devices run WM2003SE, but the 720 is due to be upgraded any time soon.
Anyway, the N500 DOES run Wm2005, which you would know if you'd have actually even looked once at the article, and thus, it IS a fair comparision.
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Hey weasel! If you had bothered to read the first post and clicked on the provided link, you too would have seen that it is not in English!! Furthermore, I have not and will not research a product i have no interest in!! Additionally, I only clicked on this thread because it's subject heading looked intrtriguing, but that's as far as it goes when provided links are not even in english!!
yeah, I read the article before I even came here.
And if you claim you have no interest in the article, and so are not interested in makking ACCURATE statements, why did you bother to post, rubbishing skearon's post, and the article's findings?
weasel weasel....don't worry about it. This is about all the time I'm going to give this argument, discussion whatever you want to call it.
I'll contribute elsewhere. Bye... :lol:
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lt_weasel said:
I felt I had to register just to say this...
The N500 is the unit being tested, not the 720 (which I have myself), or the 420. Both these devices run WM2003SE, but the 720 is due to be upgraded any time soon.
Anyway, the N500 DOES run Wm2005, which you would know if you'd have actually even looked once at the article, and thus, it IS a fair comparision.
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Hey weasel! If you had bothered to read the first post and clicked on the provided link, you too would have seen that it is not in English!! Furthermore, I have not and will not research a product i have no interest in!! Additionally, I only clicked on this thread because it's subject heading looked intrtriguing, but that's as far as it goes when provided links are not even in english!!
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The article is from an Italian web site and there is no English link, however Google will translate it for you.
The whole point of the post was the difference in the benchmarks for two WM5 devices, not to compare the devices directly.
With so many people saying the JJ is slow, I thought it interesting to see the results from another WM5 device.
New here as well though I have been reading for about 6 months.
While I can see where a comparison of Windows Mobile 5 devices would be useful to help detemine if the JasJars performance is abberant, I do not think the N500 would be my first choice for comparison. The N500 is a QVGA device if the specs I found are correct, and that should make a significant difference in both processing time and memory used. For that matter as has been mentioned before, the SPB benchmark has not been rewritten for WM 5 yet. While SPB Benchmark works, I do not think the numbers could be considered reliable given the large variations in hardware.
QVGA vs VGA, No Phone capability on the Loox (?) thus no need to task for handling phone/messaging functions, no Wifi, No Bluetooth, and so on. The JasJar has a great deal of things it is doing, and if iMate followed their previous models they added additional software to bog it down a bit more.
I am not arguing either way on the comparison of speed. My point is that the two models may be using the same OS, but the purpose and needed subsystems for the two units are very different. So comparing the two is flawed unless you want comparison as a buyer who needs a QVGA PDA with other features desired but optional.
To compare performance you don't have to sum up other functionalities like UMTS... thats my opinion.
I use the Universal about evey 10 minuts a day.
The device is the best PocketPC I ever had - but I also was hoping for a better performance.
MBastian said:
To compare performance you don't have to sum up other functionalities like UMTS... thats my opinion.
I use the Universal about evey 10 minuts a day.
The device is the best PocketPC I ever had - but I also was hoping for a better performance.
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I apologize, I guess I was not clear. I was not trying to argue the functions but the fact that the functions use some CPU/Memory, and thus are an influencing factor on performance. It does seem that at least some people need to "tweak" the JJ to get good performance out of it, but most seem happy.
Since the US does not have UMTS I am planning on replacing my PDA2K with a K-Jam but would have had a much tougher debate if UMTS were available.
Al though mackaby007 reply seemed a bit harsh to you but he is right as Carnivor stated that the comparision is flawed in the first place. 8)
Additionally, JanetPanic also right because pda/phones have alot more handles which are running in the backgound either when seem idle or even without inserting a SIM card.
Which lead to this conclusion:
Whoever wrote this article or did the research does not have the suffeciant technical background to distinguish between these two devices other than loading & running SPB Bechmark thus embaracing himself , which lead to another conclusion, it was paid for either directly or indirectly by Fujitsu Siemens. :twisted: go figure .
Just my 2cents here
My turn...
The fact that the cpu speed of the Universal came out quicker, but specific processes came out slower obviously suggests that the JasJar CPU is being used for a lot more processes.
So not really a very good comaprison to make then?
its like saying my goat is better than your pig. sure.... the both got 4 legs, 2 eyes, 3 ears, a tail. etc etc. but theyre different!!!!!
anyway, my goat is better!!!!! pfft
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its like saying my goat is better than your pig. sure.... the both got 4 legs, 2 eyes, 3 ears, a tail. etc etc. but theyre different!!!!!
anyway, my goat is better!!!!! pfft
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Excuseme, mine has 2 ears :?: :!: :lol:
OMFG. how embarassing. what a place to typo
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
hehehe never laughed so much on this forum! well worth wasting 10 mins for, cheers guys!
BTW don't ask my opinion....I got my exec 3 days ago and still haven't even worked out how to turn it on (joke) :!:
HPJ
Hello fellow Uni users,
I could see quite a lot of people referring to them using TomTom 6 (and yes it also is listed on tomtom.com in the list of compatible devices). However I preferred MN5 over TomTom earlier on due to refined interface and NAVTEQ maps (which are so much better than TeleAtlas, in my opinion and from my experience of course).
My grudge against it was that it consumes lots of RAM and can't free it up easily (except Quitting and restarting software). But I managed to get it working all right on my Universal.
I waited for MN|6 for PDA's quite a long time. They have released PNA's with MN|6, then a version for Symbians, but no luck for PDA. And recently their web site began to take preliminary orders for VERSION 6, T.B.D. on December 28th.
Imagine my disappointment when I saw that the website lists no Exec under O2 brand, and if you select (similar) MDA Pro, it says "this model is unsupported!"
Well... AA Navigator was also unsupported under XDA II, but I made it work.
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* I wonder if anybody has used NAVIGON Mobile Navigator|5 on their Universals?
* I would appreciate if anybody who gets their paws on MN|6 (may be for their other PDA's) would let us know their experiences of using it on the Universal. Don't want to waste £100 on something that most probably won't work or will work with limitations...
* I wonder if the reason for no support is because Universal is low on available RAM? In this case all you need is just to soft reset your PDA before going somewhere. IF - that's a big IF - MN|6 just needs more RAM in which case... TOUGH
* I would appreciate if you note which Sat Nav software do you use for your Universals - I can guess TomTom 6 will be in the list.
But, any others?
I tried running this PNA version on my Qtek 9000, but it didnt work at all. used tweaks i found somewhere, but never passed the startup screen...
Was there a release planed for PDAs?
Dunno if the navigon 6 maps work on navigon 5?!
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I tried running this PNA version on my Qtek 9000, but it didnt work at all. used tweaks i found somewhere, but never passed the startup screen...
Was there a release planed for PDAs?
Dunno if the navigon 6 maps work on navigon 5?!
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Well, MN|6 for PDA's can be ordered from Navigon beginning on 28th December. The b***ers delayed the PDA release so they could crop the PNA market and then Symbian Mobile phones. Now looks like the time has come.
The problem is, they say MN|6 is not supported on MDA Pro - a similar class device and since I think that may be due to enormous amount of RAM it uses while running (MN|5 kept drawing memory with each search or map zoom, so it was best to quit after you got there and start anew - that somehow reclaimed the memory) and lack of RAM within Universal.
Anyway I am not ready to pay £100 for upgrade before I know for sure it works on Exec. I own MN|5 but upgrade incentive is disappointing -- just £25 off the regular price...
If MN|6 requires more memory even and doesn't like the Exec, I'll have but three choices -- drop it altogether and move to TomTom (likely) or CoPilot (unlikely), stay with MN|5 (bo-o-oring! ) or get myself a new XDA Orbit (unlikely )
Mhh.... ur sure it will use much more RAM?
Lets just wait and see, i´m optimistic Navigon 5 with latest update runs realy great and i wont stop trying V6 until i get it to run, awesome app, better than tomtom imho.
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Mhh.... ur sure it will use much more RAM?
Lets just wait and see, i´m optimistic Navigon 5 with latest update runs realy great and i wont stop trying V6 until i get it to run, awesome app, better than tomtom imho.
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I agree with you that it's better made than TomTom. You can see all signs of a luxury sat nav system -- and TomTom is deffo lacking refinement. Voice destination entry is just awesome, very convenient and people's jaws drop.
Navigon 5 ran more or less OK, albeit after you finish your destination it always failed to release memory - it requires lots of RAM to operate, so if I were going somewhere far away, I'd always softreset my system beforehand.
I tried to think why would it be incompatible, and some cheaper WM5 models would be. Definitely not CPU. Hardly also incompatible due to Bluetooth issues, even though for some models you'd see partial compatibility -- as in "incompatible with BiCeiver". I doubt they'd screw up Bluetooth stack from a perfectly working version in MN|5. So for now I'd blame it on MN|6 requiring more RAM to run -- and the Universal is famously low on memory especially in standard setup (non-Corporate mode), but that's only my guess. If that's the case, in Corporate mode there should be no problems running it.
Anyway, I've sent a message to Navigon asking why exactly is MN|6 not compatible with Universal. Hope to get an enlightening answer.
And yes, I'll be willing to try it all right and if it works properly after my tweaks, just buy it like I did with MN|5. Right now, a Torrent with what poses as "MN|6 für PDA" is stalled at 94% working since 20th...
Merry Christmas!
Official answer from Navigon support team
"Dear Mr. <EastExpert>,
thank you for your request and your interest in Mobile Navigator 6.
We regret to inform you that none of the following HTC Universal clones
is compatible with NAVIGON's latest PDA navigation solution (MN|6):
- O2 XDA Exec
- Qtek 9000
- T-Mobile MDA Pro
- Vodafone VPA IV
Whether the incompatibility of the HTC Universal clones is due to there
hardware architecture, their ROM image or both is unknown to the support
team. Sorry.
With kind regards
__________________
Navigon Support Team
A. M*******" (name provided)
So, they are SORRY.
For feck's sake, is it not enough that Universals cost about £600, must I buy again - some PNA - just to keep up with new version?!
Hardly.
I call bullsh*t. I'll believe this when I'll install MN|6 onto my device and it refuses to work outright. Before that, the question will remain open as to whether it works with Universals.
I'll have a look on TomTom 6 and CoPilot that will come with XDA Orbits... only CoPilot is nowhere to be found for trials... more work to do therefore!
Just to let you know, MN|6 for PDA's is now available on the markets (white and black as well).
Now I gotta find somebody to test MN|6 on their Exec to prove or disprove the "not supported" claim.
I have been waiting for Navigon MN6 too, since Navigon MN5 has the best street coverage in Sweden where I live.
I have also been testing TomTom 6 and I-Go 2006 and I am very satisfied with I-Go when it comes to speed and flexibility. Simply the best navigation solution right now.
But since the street coverage in MN5 was really good I had to test the new MN6 and went out and bought it to day.
Just as I thought MN6 was compatible with my Universal. It would install and start well and the interface is clean and easy to navigate.
The street coverage is also very good as I thought it would be.
BUT, and there is a big BUT, the SPEED! MN6 is painfully slow, the animated menus and especially when browsing the map. Sometimes you have to wait seconds for things to happen. I dont know if this is a problem with the Universal, but I dont think so, it has enough processing power and memory.
Speed was one of the disadvantages with MN5 when I used it on my WM2003 PPC, and speed is why I will go back to I-Go today. I-Go is so much smoother... Sorry MN6!
dape16 said:
BUT, and there is a big BUT, the SPEED! MN6 is painfully slow, the animated menus and especially when browsing the map. Sometimes you have to wait seconds for things to happen. I dont know if this is a problem with the Universal, but I dont think so, it has enough processing power and memory.
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That, my friend, is what I suspected... The program itself would run, but Universals are famous for their lack of RAM to operate programs. Even MN|5 required so much memory, it would leave 4-6 out of 22-24 available... shame actually, 'cause the program was really lovely and had that "luxury" feeling oozing from it. I guess MN|6 requires even more, probably as much as 20+MB. This makes a lot of swapping and this is probably why you experienced such slow operation... -- and why the NAVIGON decided to deem Universals incompatible. The processing power in Uni is abundant - Bulverde 520MHz is not bad at all!
For comparison, TomTom 6, which I decided to try as an alternative, happily lives in 6-8 MB (not forgetting to give the memory used by it back at the end of the session). Having seen this, I reenabled PocketBreeze on my XDA Exec and it still has plenty of memory to operate -- I feel so much happier after these few months... I intend to try playing MP3 while navigating and see how it fares along. Pure tests
Also TomTom showed Tunnel mode, availability of TomTom Plus service where you can subscribe for ~£33 for a year of Traffic updates (via mere GPRS - no need to buy yet another £170-210 TMC-enabled receiver!) and Speed (err, Safety) Camera updates... that's nothing if you ask me Operated very fast in my tests, 2-3 seconds long route recalculations, convenient & configurable menus (yes, you can make your own ONLINE!).
You also get camera data freely available from the Net if you don't feel like paying for TomTom Plus subscription. Other things I liked about TomTom is gradually increasing precision as you approach the maneuvre point (.1 miles then .05 then 50 yds then 25 etc... till 5), Race Against Time mode where you enter time you wish to be at your destination and it shows you how are you faring on it! Also very sensible routing algorithms (btw compared to MN|5 -- I just get there faster!). What totally killed me was Full UK Postcode search that just required me to copy a few files into installation directory and it worked straight away! Only AA Navigator had a comparable Full UK Postcode database... the problem is, it didn't support Address search (as in "Town/Street/Number" mode). So TomTom won here as well.
Re: iGO 2006, some colleagues of mine have tried it and have split feelings: 1) the program they say is just excellent, but 2) the map coverage in the UK where we are is disappointingly incomplete. I guess this is just a teething problem (growth problem) since iGO was designed in Hungary, so they say its Eastern European coverage is much better. And I think iGO definitely has future. I read the manual and was pleasantly impressed by amount of features available. (And a bit disappointed by reviews that said UK coverage is currently far from perfect).
In other words, I now have moved to TomTom 6 for now.
As for MN|6, seems like while we retain our Universals, we're in the ditch with it. Oh, tough. Until there's a comparable device (VGA and Phone and GPRS and 3G and WiFi and even GPS may be) -- I'll cling to my Universal.
Seems like I was wrong about the compatibility after all...
I have done some more testing here and it seems like it is the Universals lack of RAM thats the problem.
When I tried to do some door-to-door navigation with MN6 the Uni gave me memory allocation errors or it would simply freeze.
I have Helmis AKU 3.5 ROM and about 22 MB RAM free after soft-reset. Maybe I should try with Ivans, I read in his thread that with his ROM you start with about 30 MB free.
But I am not sure that would solve the problem, I found this thread and some people there have been testing MN6 with Ivans ROM.
http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=102846
By the way, I cant belive that MN6 is eating so much RAM. They have had a couple of years do redesign MN5 but still it needs more then twice as much as TomTom.
Since Navgions maps are the best where I live, I am thinking about trying MN5. EastExpert, did you get it to run well on your Uni? Was it compatible with VGA?
My test with MN|6, wasn't encouraging.
1st Out of memory.
Reset. Next 3 or 4 goes, it was very slow and lagging in switching between dialogue boxes to the point were it would be doing the same thing 3 times because you thought you had not pressed the on screen buttons.
It looked very nice and certainly more polished than TT, but certainly not something to use for your daily business unless someone comes up with a superROM with a large amount of free mem and no leakage.
You can use it, but you need to be really careful, press a button and sit there, wait for the result, then do the next thing. I'm going to try i-Go next, to see if it fits my needs better than TT.
Shame; MN|6 looked pretty cool.
Cheers
Fish
There is some interesting info at the thread I linked to earlier, some guy saying that according to Navigon support the Universal will be compatible with the next update for MN6. Exciting!
dape, yes I used to run MN|5 on my Uni. Granted, it wasn't without problems. When I went somewhere far away, I always soft reset the beast, otherwise it could easily run out of memory somewhere on the go.
Another thing that really peed me off was that if I tried to do something beyond usual navigation (i.e. enter the address and press go), like select a car park nearby, or a petrol station, it would start to mix new screen on top of the old one... same would happen if I were to enter next destination after having arrived at the first one -- clear signs for me (a long-ago former software developer) that there's not enough memory.
It was a properly bought version (used an upgrade offer from AA Navigator I've been using before) and I lived with it for several months, but never was quite content with the fact I hadn't free memory enough to run the program -- this could build an inferiority complex in some other person! . Then eventually I've gotten sick and tired of it and decided to seek for alternatives.
I dropped the forum link you provided into Babelfish to translate into English, and there was an interesting phrase there -- the sense was that there will be an update to MN|6 that will make it compatible. Hmm. That could be interesting! I guess I'll keep watching the arena!
UPDATE: You have just posted the same and you were faster
fishtastic, looks like your findings actually corroborate the theory of MN|6 being all too big for the usual memory amount in Universal.
One can't really work like that -- not freely using all the MN|6's advanced features and having to wait and soft reset without end.
iGO seems not an option for me yet -- all the reviews I've read mention far from ideal coverage of UK where I dwell. Nice software, though, I'll give it a go when the next version arrives.
O2 UK is now providing XDA Orbit (= HTC Artemis) and recommends ALK CoPilot 6 with it. I wasn't too impressed by its screenshots, looks like TomTom and iGo are better. Haven't got my mitts on a version of CoPilot I could install and try though. May be O2 had their reasons when selecting CoPilot for their XDA orbit.
P.S. I wonder what happens next -- me finding anything better than TomTom 6, or me moving to a next BMW with in-dash Sat-Nav support?... LOL
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P.S. I wonder what happens next -- me finding anything better than TomTom 6, or me moving to the next BMW with Sat Nav in the dashboard?... LOL
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Are these BMWs that you speak of more or less expensive than a universal? And do run WM5? ;-)
Er, seriously, a lot of guys in work, have beemers and several use TT-ToGo, the only guy with dashboard satnav drives a Jag. Me being the poor IT guy doing the essbase and SQL Server stuff surrounded by these rich accountants catches the train to work. Boo.
I suppose the thing with TT is that it works fairly well. I just wish they would tart it up a bit and tidy the interface.
Oh well,
Good Luck to anyone else trying. Oh, I should have said before that I'm using the original shipping Rom on an O2 Exec from Nember 2005.
Cheers
Fish
Being in IT myself, and not a sales, solicitor or accountant, I think the first is more likely to happen and my next BMW would probably cost about as much as a new Universal...
Err... but I digress.
You're right about TT - it "just friggin' works", period. You just start it and it does what's on the tin. And compared to version 3 it's really a much better product (that was my previous experience with TT).
I'll be watching the space though - the hint about potential update that will support Execs is taken. Next iGO will be worth trying, I guess. And that's about it -- sometimes you just want to have something that works for a while
Many thanks to you guys for your feedback. Now, we know
Small addition:
MN|6 appears to switch off the power management i.e. the turn off the backlight after 3 mins bit. Confused me when I opened it and it was on.
Also, anyone with the problem with their battery is getting a bit old and turning off at 30odd%, if you have installed MN|6, at what point does it now do it at? Has it changed?
Cheers
Fish
The battery problem you mention is quite strange, because my 5 months old Uni suddenly started to turn of at about 30% power...
I can confirm that this is a battery problem, it has not anything to do with ROM version or something. Only a new battery solved my problem.
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The battery problem you mention is quite strange, because my 5 months old Uni suddenly started to turn of at about 30% power...
I can confirm that this is a battery problem, it has not anything to do with ROM version or something. Only a new battery solved my problem.
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Yes, it's well known that it's a battery problem, but mine went from 30-odd% to ~90% just after installing, that prompted the question. Personally I believe it's a coincidence that it changed so dramatically. My battery is 1 year and 3 months old and I think it's heart just gave out. I ordered a new battery a few days ago, before MN|6, and so hopefully it won't be too long before the new one arrives.
I was just wondering if anyone had experience such a jump? I'm guessing it is my battery's particular circumstances in this case.
Cheers
Fish
The whole thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267448 is dedicated to Exec battery problems. I have added my 2p there recently, too...
In a nutshell, it looks like even the original batteries have only about a year's life and then start to suck big time. And replacements from third parties are rare sh!te, most displaying problems with short life, having not enough energy to operate Exec's parts like phone or SD card too early, some always displaying charge at 100% and all of them not even approaching the stated capacity of 1750 mAh...
Only a few people tried to generalize, but I'd say: some report problems starting when they installed AKU 3.x from this forum, some blame charging via USB connection to PC, some blame just abysmal quality of batteries (probably true for 3rd party replacements), and some blame age (probably true, too - 1 year and then you gotta replace your battery or it gets less and less capacity until you get something like I have... unable to support phone already at 92% by meter and turning off at 85%...)
One day I'll just peddle it off eBay. I had many, many problems with this device. XDA I and II were (and II still is ) flawless and fast. I don't know what's wrong with Exec, but it was problems from the very beginning.
Good news!
With Ivan's new Rom (AKU3.5 beta 2), MN6 is working!!!!!
I installed MN6 to storage card, not to main memory.
I'm testing it for two days now, no problems at all.
I'm using Navigon's Trireceiver with tmc and even tmc works.
YOU SHOULD GIVE IT A TRY!
Best regards, Leo
Hi just wondering what the H and G stand on t-mobile for when I'm connecting to the internet ,when not in a 3g area .
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Google is your friend!!!
You will only get H in a 3G area.
IIRC, G is GPRS, or General Packet Radio Service, basically the slowest mobile internet you can get.
3G you obviously know, essentially Gx3, roughly 3 times the speed of normal GPRS.
H is HSDPA. High Speed Download something or other, also known as 3.5G and is currently the fastest mobile internet you can get on GSM I believe. I may be wrong though.
So, in order of ascending speed, the icons you may get when connected to t'internet are: G, E, 3G, H.
Hope that helps a bit.
EDIT: Something I feel I should say regarding the matter. Linux and Android are community driven, open source projects. People ask other people with more experience how to do things. If everyone's answer to anything was "Let Me Google That For You," even the mighty Google would have no answers. I learnt my way around Debian by asking on Debian forums how to do things like chown, chmod (the two things I remember as being most confusing), kernel programming and everything else I now do on my laptop as second nature.
Just because something seems blindingly obvious to one person doesn't mean it is to someone else and shouldn't treated with a generic and offhand 'google' response.
I don't mean to seem agressive or anything, but as it says on the back of learner driver cars "Please be patient. You were a learner once too."
So, I've been on these forums for many a moon, but never actually contributed anything of substance. I have an idea. For now, I don't know how to implement it, as I am not an Android or web developer... but I am toying with Google Earth to attempt to set this up.
I was thinking today that modem speeds are very subjective. So is their stability. Being an international phone with international radio bands, it is subject to all the differing variables our planet has to offer, and as such, some speeds suffer while others skyrocket.
Now, I am resigned to the fact that altering modems to suit one's wants is impossible, as they are closed source (darn you Sammy). But I thought today that it might be useful to map out people's speeds around the world. I realize that there are many, many different modems that will yield different results for different people in different locations.
This brings me to the main idea. Eliminate the differing modems. If everybody tested using the same modem, that would eliminate that variable from the soup of confusion that is modem testing. Worldwide, for testing purposes only of course, if everybody ran a speed test with the LPQ modem (an arbitrary choice), it would be valid for someone from Florence, Italy to compare signal and speed with someone from Edmonton, Canada.
Plausibly the results would still be widely varied. However, if several results were collected from around the world, and these results superimposed onto a map of different regions, one would be able to use this as a resource to better understand the geographic variables that limit phone connectivity. Or if you are in a region where the speeds are consistently high, and you only can achieve low speeds, you know that there is something wrong with either your ROM or your hardware (as my Bell representative told me was my problem).
For instance. Canada is a huge country. Speeds will differ from coast to coast through the rockies, the prairies, the Canadian Shield, and the Maritimes. But if speeds of many Canadians were superimposed on a map of Canada, one would be able to see where the low coverage areas of the large country is.
This would allow you to make more informed decisions about choosing modems, rather than choosing blindly.
And if more than one modem were tested (one at a time, obviously), it would further allow people to choose the modem that is right for them.
I wish to take the guesswork out of modem selection!
I am going to try Google Earth, but if anyone else has another idea of a medium to communicate this information, as well as a way for people to upload scores and locations... other than this thread (which may become messy... fast), that would be appreciated.
Oh, and if you have any questions or comments regarding this idea, do not hesitate to ask here.