Mounting HTC TyTN as a block device - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I know this isn't exactly what this site is for, but I managed to delete all the contacts off of my phone. They were stored as part of a PC sync connection that I deleted. For the record, I really hate the way windows mobile ties your contacts to either an exchange connection or pc sync connection, such that deleting the connecting deletes your contacts.
Anyway, I want to try to do a forensic recovery on my phone, but I'm not exactly sure how to mount the device. I have Ubuntu 8.10 laptop and a AT&T 8525. I have successfully used the 8525 as a high speed modem on the laptop, and a dmesg list shows the phone being successfully added as a usb device when I plug it in. The only changes I see under /dev after plugging it in are 4 new usb devices that mount says it can't mount because they aren't block devices. Does anyone know how to access the phone as a usb drive that I can then use dd to copy the bits off of?
Btw, I still have contacts on my sim card intact, but there are a few new ones I want to recover, plus they were organized a lot more nicely. Thanks.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

See if this helps.
http://blog.thc.org/index.php?/archives/3-Windows-Mobile-file-recovery-HOWTO.html

Looks promising... I'll give it a shot and let you know. Thanks.

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getting Win XP Pro to recognize my device...

This is probably really remedial but I'm a Mac user so it's foreign to me. I had an Imate Jam working great with Active Sync 3.8 on Win XP Pro.
Now I have the MDA and have installed Active Sync 4.1 (even tried 4.2). When I plug in the MDA, Windows makes the 'donk' sound to advise something's been connected but it just shows a 'Generic RNDIS' device connected and the add hardware wizard says the device cannot start (yes it's turned on).
I don't see any drivers on the T-Mobile CD that came with the product....is there something else I have to do to install this thing so Active Sync recognizes it?
<edit> I've attached a picture of the hardware manager...
When I uninstall the driver and re-plug in the device, it's immediately recognized as a Windows Mobile-based device but then I get the error: "A problem occured during hardware installation. Your device may not work properly." This happens each time I try it, even after a restart.
thanks,
Tim
hi buddy
i've had that XPerience when i've connected my brand new prophet (o2 xda neo) to my pc via usb 2.0 hub. i was going nuts, because all older partnerships to devices i've established before i've bought the hub did work... if you do the same - change it! at least one time you should connect the ppc directly to an available usb connector on your pc until you have established a partnership. also i would recommend to install active sync 4.2 beta (use the search here to find the link), it fixes some connecting trouble... let us know if any of these tips helped at all or if you found your own solution...
cheers, lutz
Try disabling your firewalls these are the usual culprits to stop syncing. You can add activesync to the list of acceptable programs if you use something like zone alarm firewall etc.. I have the windows firewall disabled.
Thanks for the suggestions. I've tried connecting directly to the USB port -- no dice. I only have the Windows Firewall which was already showing ActiveSync as an allowed application but I turned it off and still nothing changes.
The device manager reports:
This device cannot start. (Code 10)
Click Troubleshoot to start the troubleshooter for this device.
The troubleshooter basically instructs me to delete the device and try again, which I've done a dozen times, restarted both phone & computer. Still nothing.
Another trick that worked for me, if you have a network socket even if you dont have a network cable attached, enable network connections on your computer and try again. Whenever you change settings on your computer uninstall activesync and reinstall it. Hope that helps.
AS not connecting
For some reason, I had to repair/re-install AS. After re-booting, XP Pro/AS 4.2Beta recognized the Wizard again (Cing 8125) as all was well.
It's been stable the past few days, I think because I'm not trying to sync at work (I just cancel and use Guest).
Not a great answer, but good luck...
paul
Thanks, still no go. I do have an active Internet connection. I'm not so sure this has anything to do with ActiveSync as the computer doesn't even get to a successful install of the hardware....it always says a problem occured and the hardware may not work properly.
Succes...almost. I left the phone plugged in and restarted (after deleting the hardware profile) and when the PC rebooted it made that oh-so-sweet ActiveSync connected sound. Then AS quit and I was back to where I started in the post before....doh!
Just for kicks I plugged in my old Jam and it worked just fine, the hardward was recognized right away.
This leads me to believe something may be hosed on my MDA? Weird because it charges fine and everything else is great...it was a brand new unopened box from the local T-Mo retailer.
Hmmm...
BNDIS Connector
Guys,
Not sure that this is the solution, but this is what happened to me too. The way that Active Sync 4.x talks to a WM5 device is as a network device, not a USB device as in WM2003/Active Sync 3.x.
So, what you need to do is make sure that your PPC, which when connected to the PC shows up in the Device manager as a BDNIS network adapter, is to ensure that the BNDIS connector has an IP Address.
The easiest way to do this, connect the PPC to the PC and here the ping sound.
Right click on the My Network Places icon and select Properties
In the Network Connections Window, select Views > Details.
Find the Network Adapter that has the Device Name of the BNDIS connector.
Right click on this Network Adapter
Ensure that Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) is checked.
My guess is that it is not checked
If it is, check the properties for the Internet Protocol (TCP..) and ensure that DHCP is selected.
Hope this helps -
Re: BNDIS Connector
jkossowsky said:
Guys,
Not sure that this is the solution, but this is what happened to me too. The way that Active Sync 4.x talks to a WM5 device is as a network device, not a USB device as in WM2003/Active Sync 3.x.
So, what you need to do is make sure that your PPC, which when connected to the PC shows up in the Device manager as a BDNIS network adapter, is to ensure that the BNDIS connector has an IP Address.
The easiest way to do this, connect the PPC to the PC and here the ping sound.
Right click on the My Network Places icon and select Properties
In the Network Connections Window, select Views > Details.
Find the Network Adapter that has the Device Name of the BNDIS connector.
Right click on this Network Adapter
Ensure that Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) is checked.
My guess is that it is not checked
If it is, check the properties for the Internet Protocol (TCP..) and ensure that DHCP is selected.
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This happened to me too. ActiveSync 4.1 worked perfectly until my WinXP Machine crashed and I had to reload.
When I reloaded, ActiveSync acting in the same manner.
I'll try this tonight and see if works for me. Hope so.
timskrastins said:
This is probably really remedial but I'm a Mac user so it's foreign to me. I had an Imate Jam working great with Active Sync 3.8 on Win XP Pro.
thanks,
Tim
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You can still use your mac & missing sync 2.5 alpha & for most things it will work fine, but functionality is limited & sync only via BT. - it does ical, Address Book & tasks & time sync. & you can also install programs & documents as well. for media I just copy the songs straight to my mini sd card via a card reader.
Some programs will only install via windows, but as I have an intel iMac I run windows as well & activesync so far works well for me, but I have to disable the contacts/tasks/calendar or I end up with dupicate entries etc.
jkossowsky - awesome info. The problem I'm having is that the device does not show up in the network adapters. When I plug it in, it tells me there was a problem with the device and it could not be started.
Device Recognized
You need to install Active Sync 4.x before plugging in your device.
So, to be really really safe, go to Device Manager, look at the Unrecognized Devices section, find your unrecognized device and right click on it and remove it.
Install Active Sync 4.x
(if you already installed it, uninstall it, reboot and reinstall it again)
Once it is installed, plug in your device and it should be recognized as a Network Adapter.
If Active Sync does not automatically find the device, follow the instructions from my post above.
Uninstall Activesync, reboot, Reinstall Activesync, Reboot, plug in device.
pray
if that fails, attached are the proper INF files, manually update them to this, and see if that helps.
Thanks for the info, I'll give this a try. The thing that really killed me is that my old iMate Jam connected fine during this whole ordeal.
I exchanged the Wizard for a new one and still had the same issue. I finally tried syncing it on a new laptop running Win XP Pro and was able to get it to connect.
I'll try the suggestions above on the previous machine to see if I can get it to recognize the phone. Atleast I know the phone is not defective now.
Darn, no dice on that manual driver install...I get 'the specified location does not contain information about your device'
timskrastins said:
Darn, no dice on that manual driver install...I get 'the specified location does not contain information about your device'
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try this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51649&highlight=
Hmmmm....
You may want to have a look @ support.microsoft.com
There's an issue with 4.x ActiveSync [AS] and Windows Firewall. Even though AS is listed in the exceptions, it doesn't work properly......
See here.......... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/help/activesync/default.mspx
I had this also - bugged me for weeks.
I found that the AS suite I downloaded from the MS site - regardless of version - would never find the Wizard. Only when I installed the version on the CD that came with the dvice would it connect - even though I think it was only AS 4.0.
Although I imagine you've aalready tried the CD version if you have one...

File transfer issues

WHen i attempt to transfer files to my Wizard it freezes. The file size is 300mb to my 1GB SD card. It is a movie and whenever I try to copy it from my PC to the phone via USB it freezes.
I have only been able to transfer small .cab files and .mp3s....
What can I do to fix this besides buying a separate reader?
Do you have a SD card slot on your PC? Or a Card reader device? Try to take out the MINI SD, plug it in to its SD card adapter (if you have it) and copy it directly on to the card. Then place back the MINI SD card in the device.
It is quite difficult to say if it is your USB connection or active sync, your PC or something else ...
In case you do not have a card reader:
Maybe you have WLAN? Try to copy it via wifi then ...
Yep,
lots of choices, lots of possibilities - and lots of things which can go wrong!
how would i go about copying it via wifi?
Quite hard to explain if I do not know what hardware you have (such as wireless home network, router, accesspoint) and if you have experiences in setting up wireless connections (infrastructure if router / ap exists - ad-hook if not).
In case you do not have any experiences it would be too difficult to explain anyway. You might want to check your USB? What ActiveSync version are you using? What Windows version ...
You see: there are a lot of components and information needed in order to help you one way or another! Never forget: people who are trying to help on here know only as much about your problem as you post ...
Junner2003 said:
Quite hard to explain if I do not know what hardware you have (such as wireless home network, router, accesspoint) and if you have experiences in setting up wireless connections (infrastructure if router / ap exists - ad-hook if not).
In case you do not have any experiences it would be too difficult to explain anyway. You might want to check your USB? What ActiveSync version are you using? What Windows version ...
You see: there are a lot of components and information needed in order to help you one way or another! Never forget: people who are trying to help on here know only as much about your problem as you post ...
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Heh i have wifi all setup I have verizon fios. I can connect via my phone to the network thought maybe i had to do a certain procedure. What i did though was upload it to my ftp then connect from my phone and transfer it like that. While it was time consuming ti worked at least.
Activesync version 4.5, windows xp. I'm probably just going to give in and go buy a sd card reader tomorrow.

ActiveSync & Read/Write Problems

I've checked the forums and cannot find any reference to the problems I have:
I have a T-Mobile Vario 2 with WM5. When I connect to the PC via USB, ActiveSync only recognises the unit as a GUEST and has limited functionality. It used to work OK and as far as I know I've done nothing to change anything. I've tried different PC's, upgrading ActiveSync to 4.5, different cables and nothing changes. Any ideas?
Also, I cannot copy, delete, move files on the phone (or memory card when in phone). I cannot download files onto the phone from the internet. I deems as though I have a write protect lock on somehow. Again, any ideas?
As a newbie to this forum, any help you can give would be appreciated.
Dave

At a loss with activesync

I'm at a complete loss with activesync. I've done everything I can think of and I can't get my computer to see my 8525. I've reinstalled activesync and hard resent my device. When i plug in it says
one of the usb devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned and windows did not recongnize it
usb root hub (2 ports)
- unknown device
- usb composite device
Am I missing some sort of driver somehow? I don't know what to do..please help.
Hey i had the same problem. Is this your first time installing/using activesync??
Well what I did was this:
-Install activesync 4.2 from the CD (CD that came included w/unit).
-Uninstall activesync 4.2 (don't delete any drivers installed by the CD)
-Install activesync 4.5 (download it from Microsoft Website)
-Plug in your 8525 to the PC via USB cable, and your PC should NOW recognize it.
This is what I did and it helped. There may be a better/alternate way in doing this, but I FINALLY got Activesync to work!
Oh and see if you can help me with the prob. that I'm having.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383065
Ya I can't find the CD that came with my phone for the life of me.
ok found disc and tried that. Nothing. Could my phone be broken?
heres what I had to do to get AS working again.
Delete the current version of AS from your PC
Go into c:/wondows/program files and delete the AS folder (Windows may not let you delete some DLL's.
Go into the registry and delete any AS entries you can find, or do what I did and use Ccleaner registry clean up program (Google it, it's freeware)
Restart the PC
Install AS 4.2 from the AT&T/Cingular disk.
Install AS 4.5 from MS.
Hook up your 8525 and all should be well.
Tried that....didn't work.
Still hoping someone has some advice. I've tried two different usb cables and used different ports as well so it's not that.
quick update...
I searched through the forums and googled a few things and from what I can tell other people have had this problem and not found any solution. I am considering trying bluetooth but I don't have bluetooth for my PC...can i get some sort of adapter? Also...Is there a specific driver I can download for the HTC hermes that might fix this issue?
Yea your situation sounds like the one I used to have.
Do you have a firewall?? If so DISABLE it. I have COMODO and even though I would press "accept", the drivers wouldn't install completely.
This is what I did:
-Start your PC.
-Uninstall Activesync through the Add/Remove.
-Delete the Microsoft Activesync folder in the Programs folder.
-Restart your PC
-Wait till your firewall loads up. Disable it.
-Go through the procedures I mentioned in my 1st post.
Oh and make sure you have internet access. I'm not 100% sure if internet access helps, but it could help with the drivers.
Even though I just got my 8525, I don't mind helping someone
tried that. no go. I think i'm going to just have to get a new phone.
Did you try disabling the Advanced Network Functionality?
START -> SETTINGS -> CONNECTIONS -> USBtoPC
Yes. when I do that it makes windows see my device, but windows does not know what my device is. Thats why I think some sort of driver might be missing, but I don't know how to fix that.
branden7 said:
Yes. when I do that it makes windows see my device, but windows does not know what my device is. Thats why I think some sort of driver might be missing, but I don't know how to fix that.
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So... with the RNDIS checkbox UNCHECKED and your FIREWALL OFF, you get the USB Device not recognized error? In that case, ENABLE it and look at these other settings:
1. In the PPC open ActiveSync, then select Connections... from the menu and make sure the Synchroinize ALL PC's using this connection: USB option is checked.
2. In Windows (XP) check your ActiveSync connection settings (see image).
3. Did you try the AS 4.5 Connection Trouble Shooter?
4. You should also try another computer, just to double-check.
There is no driver to make AS work, AFAIK. Question: What happens when the RNDIS checkbox is enabled? Does Windows report an error or simply doesn't connect?
Tried all of those things, still device not recognized. I do need to try another computer but unfortunatly do not have access to one.
When i click that RNDIS checkbox nothing of interest happens. If it's clicked on when i connect windows very briefly see's the device (although it's not recongized) and then the little symbol for unknown device on my taskbar dissapears. If I then click it off windows will again see the device and the little symbol on my taskbar reappears, but it still doesn't recongnize the device.
Wow. That's a strange problem you have there. At this point, it could be a hardware issue. You could try installing WM5Storage or CardExport just to check if the USB hardware is working (bad cable?). Also, try checking your PPC registry, specifically, HKLM\Drivers\Usb\FunctionDrivers. It should look similar to mine (see pictures attached). I believe these keys tell Windows what to do with the device when connected thru USB. Other than that, try a flashing a new ROM from the SD Card, something like VP3G's which is known to work correctly.
Branden,
I have this problem from time to time. My solution is as follows: make sure the usb cable is connected to both the phone and the computer, even though you are getting the unrecognised error message.
Reboot the phone (soft reset) while still attached to the usb cable. Do not rush anything. Input any unlock passwords when prompted by the system but be aware that booting up can be slow, so give it time.
Once the phone has booted up you should then see activesync kick in. You may have to try this several times before it works but it always works for me.
One thing I would advise is to disable/deinstall any auto locking software, eg S2U2. These tend to kick in on long synchronisations and throw the usb status out.
Hope this helps.
WB
Hi! You didn't by any changeuse memmaid or something to clean up the notification queue? (if this sounds like gibberish, you probably didn't) Let me know!
branden7 said:
Tried all of those things, still device not recognized. I do need to try another computer but unfortunatly do not have access to one.
When i click that RNDIS checkbox nothing of interest happens. If it's clicked on when i connect windows very briefly see's the device (although it's not recongized) and then the little symbol for unknown device on my taskbar dissapears. If I then click it off windows will again see the device and the little symbol on my taskbar reappears, but it still doesn't recongnize the device.
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Same Problem
Just to let you know your not alone ...
I am having the Exact same problem at the moment .... fortunately i do have access to another PC ... My Laptop connects to it with no problems what so ever .... so it obviously is a PC issue and not a Phone issue
I too have tried all the currently posted attempts at a solution to fix it but so far nothing has worked ... i am beggining to think that i may have to do a fresh intall of XP and that would Phiss me off
So any further suggestions would be doubley appreciated
Tried everything mentioned since my last post and still nothing. Also I am now getting the white screen issue again (Which I fixed originally by buying another hermes that had a crushed usb port and swapping the screens out). I think I may be about ready to move on to another phone as this is now my third major problem with this model of phone (although one of the problems may be an issue with XP).
I had the same problem. I updated my WM5 to WM6....and it stoped syncing with my computer. Went back to exchange it. Later, I learned it wasn't the problem with the phone syncing.....here's how you can fix the problem.
Click on Start>Settings>Connection Tab>USB to PC
Uncheck "Enable advanced network functionality"
Click on "ok"
I just upgraded to wm6 again and followed these steps....now it syns fine.
It worked for me.....hopefully it will work for you.
Peace

Cant connect "disk drive" style to PC???

I have not had any luck locating other people with this issue.
First off let it be noted my note 3 will be replaced tomorrow by a new note 3 (severe signal issues hampering the ability to make or receive any phone calls)
That being said, I was trying to back up some app data and long story short - I'm trying to connect my phone to the pc but the PC refuses to acknowledge it.
When the phone is plugged into the pc (usb 2 - any port) it simply charges the phone and calls it a day. No popups - no notifications - no verizon bloat spam.
I've tried installing samsung drivers via download, I've tried their Kies software. I'm getting nowhere.
Also - an odd thing - I was trying to get Helium (carbon) to work and it had me enable USB Debugging (pretty standard procedure) - When it asked to do that it auto popped up the setting page which was labeled something like "developer settings" (helium actually opened up the setting page for me) and I did - Prior to that and since that point I cannot find that settings page anywhere on the phone, as thats the page I was looking for the "disk mount" option that I'm used to seeing on my tbolt. Helium wont bring it up again either as usb debugging is enabled now.
what in the heck is going on with my gn3???
You can get the Developer Options screen in the settings by going to About Phone and tapping on the Build Number line repeatedly until it says "You are now a developer."
As far as mounting as a disk, that functionality is long gone since the Thunderbolt. There may be a yet unfound way to mount just the external sd card as a drive, but the internal memory is formatted with ext3 or ext4 and windows wouldnt touch it if it could.
Im not sure of your computer setup, but if you are using an OS before Windows 7 you may need to install the MTP porting kit from Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=19153). All newer Android phones now use the highly inefficient, annoying MTP protocol to do file transfers through USB.
WiFi Transfer
adoublearonn said:
You can get the Developer Options screen in the settings by going to About Phone and tapping on the Build Number line repeatedly until it says "You are now a developer."
As far as mounting as a disk, that functionality is long gone since the Thunderbolt. There may be a yet unfound way to mount just the external sd card as a drive, but the internal memory is formatted with ext3 or ext4 and windows wouldnt touch it if it could.
Im not sure of your computer setup, but if you are using an OS before Windows 7 you may need to install the MTP porting kit from Microsoft (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=19153). All newer Android phones now use the highly inefficient, annoying MTP protocol to do file transfers through USB.
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Just learning about this myself because just changed from note 2 to note 3 and had no problem on note 2. Seems like wifi transfer is a fairly easy way to go. Download something like WiFi File Transfer then you can search hidden folders and such and transfer files. Not as easy as mounting the drive though. Would like to know about other options.

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