The title says it all. This is a survey to gauge the magnitude of the problem among the early adopters of Touch HD.
Please cast your vote only after you have AT LEAST 1 WEEK of experience using the device.
Thanks and cheers.
Mine hangs quite often, when typing SMS very fast. Also it hangs constantly, when browsing in landscape mode with opera. Very, very annoying.
paranoid2007 said:
Mine hangs quite often, when typing SMS very fast. Also it hangs constantly, when browsing in landscape mode with opera. Very, very annoying.
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Tried hard reset? Tried reflashing the ROM? Tried getting a replacement?
Mine hangs often but I can live with it as it is my secondary device and I don't use it much.
Mine hangs occasionally but i found most of the times was "Active Sync" fault, simply close it and it stops hanging
So far, more than 50% of you are saying it never hang even once. This is amazing! I had never thought in my widest dream that it is so good.
I've mine since the 5th of November... so it's about 3 weeks today... and I’ve already forgotten where is the Soft Reset button...
I think that you should include in the poll, another option, something like the 2nd and 3rd options, but that it bothers us.
Since we paid a lot of money for HD and it does not work as it should, it is really annoying and it bothers us.
jolas said:
I think that you should include in the poll, another option, something like the 2nd and 3rd options, but that it bothers us.
Since we paid a lot of money for HD and it does not work as it should, it is really annoying and it bothers us.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortuntely, posters are not able to make this change. Can our moderator help?
Never
I clicked 'never hangs'.
Strictly not true. Have found that if CorePlayer is open, and i try to manually switch off, it won't. Subsequent attempts also fail (even after closing CP), and the only fix is to press the power button a few seconds and turn off. (i guess this is one 'below' a soft-reset but dunno).
Also strange is that if it auto-shuts down with CP open, generally it turns off, but when turned on CorePlayer has no video, and must be closed and opened to fix.
i guess the 2 issues are related to Coreplayer's incomplete Qtv driver - and will be soon fixed.
Else has never hung (2 weeks use) which is brilliant compared to my last PDA (ipaq) - tho' it was often the fingerprint reader that hung. btw i would pay more for the HD with biometric security. i think this is needed, given the amount/type of data most people have on their devices it should nearly be illegal to make 'em without .
I've select never, however I've had a couple of application issues... 1 with network settings and the other with a 3rd party application which both caused application crashes.
How are you defining a hang? WinMo crash screen (application dies) or device becomes unusable and requires a soft reset? My phone has never crashed that bad I've never had to reset it.
Philio25 said:
How are you defining a hang? WinMo crash screen (application dies) or device becomes unusable and requires a soft reset? My phone has never crashed that bad I've never had to reset it.
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Freezes. Not responding to user action, or so slow and unuseable that it requires a soft reset.
So far, one out of four are reporting that freezing occurs frequently, but more than 90% of us are not bothered by this. Any more vote?
Interesting poll!
But i have to mention, i'm absolutly sure the freezing problem is on every HD. It's just a question of the installed software, the running applications and their kind of use.
If i play the whole day SPB sudoku i have not to report any freezings and i'm lucky. But the HD turns me crazy while writing the whole day SMS with permanent freezes.
Just a joke!
surely all these freezing problems will be fixed once we get cooked roms?
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surely all these freezing problems will be fixed once we get cooked roms?
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On my Athena, the freezing problem largely disappeared with ROM updates from HTC, but the cooked ROM were far more stable.
So, I believe the same will happen here.
I've had mine for a week now and get regular freezes - mostly when using opera and particularly with opera in landscape mode. Also get freezes when typeing emails although these usually sort themselves out if I'm prepared to wait a while. Every now and again it seems like the wireless connection stops working (i.e. the progress bar for loading a page freezes and won't load any further although all the other apps seem to be ok) - soft reset seems to solve each time.
The most annoying problem for me though at the moment is that I have to close all applications before connecting to my laptop via usb or the running apps just crash as soon as it connects - again probably an activesync issue I guess.
I have never used a cooked rom before but you guys seem to swear by them so hopefully one will come out which sorts these issues - or maybe HTC will post an update.
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I've had mine for a week now and get regular freezes - mostly when using opera and particularly with opera in landscape mode. Also get freezes when typeing emails although these usually sort themselves out if I'm prepared to wait a while. Every now and again it seems like the wireless connection stops working (i.e. the progress bar for loading a page freezes and won't load any further although all the other apps seem to be ok) - soft reset seems to solve each time.
The most annoying problem for me though at the moment is that I have to close all applications before connecting to my laptop via usb or the running apps just crash as soon as it connects - again probably an activesync issue I guess.
I have never used a cooked rom before but you guys seem to swear by them so hopefully one will come out which sorts these issues - or maybe HTC will post an update.
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Have you tried Netfront browser to see if that works better?
potential Freezing solution-worked for me
Don't laugh......this has worked for me. Go into Settings-systems-screen-clear type-uncheck enable clear type
I also have no aftermarket keyboard loaded-just using what came with device....no more freezing during SMS.
I cant get the auto name feature to dump into the SMS or email field when I type the name though
JM
staged2 said:
Don't laugh......this has worked for me. Go into Settings-systems-screen-clear type-uncheck enable clear type
I also have no aftermarket keyboard loaded-just using what came with device....no more freezing during SMS.
I cant get the auto name feature to dump into the SMS or email field when I type the name though
JM
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For those of you who became so frustrated with the freeze and voted the last option, could you all try out this solution and see if it work?
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I think I have a fairly unmodded phone...
Its still not unlocked, no rom changes, etc.
I just have programs like: PocketWeather, iLauncher and TomTom with a few simple additions like the new program that auto disconnects data after a preset time.
Well it seems very random, but when I fire off things like TOMTOM it just hangs, but not every time.
Not many. Generally speaking, when I'm having issues, it's my fault. But I do have issues with my OK button periodically disappearing, and sometimes non-responsiveness of some apps.
But, it's very rare. I usually do a soft reset every couple of days when something even remotely starts to act up.
Same with mine. I use the latest i-mate WWE ROM and find it stable.
@sk0t:
my OK button periodically disappearing
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Do you use Magic Button?
Nope. That's what's weird about it. I'll push the OK button on the front, but the app will still be up, and the OK button will disappear on the screen. I can usually get back to the Today screen by pushing the end call button though.
mine is now very stable. There is another thread that lists the "best" things to do to stop the periodic freezing. My 2c worth is on that thread also
I use Mortsaver to lock and close the device when i'm not using it. I think this results in a very stable device. It will wake up for SMS alerts and calls but for the rest of the time it's asleep - except when you are actively using it of course.
I also use SPB Backup at 05:00 in the morning which performs a soft reset after the backup. This keeps it clean too.
Defragging the Storage card and keeping as many apps as you can off the storage card also helps.
btw I use Magic Button
I only asked about Magic Button since I've noticed that the close button disappears sometimes in "Program Manager". It comes back again with a simple tap on the window background.
See thats the odd thing.... someone else told me to try and keep my unit's memory as clear as possible to avoid possible lockups.
Is the general consensus that its the other way around?
I have the vast majority of my applications saved on my storage card, granted I have tons of space on it.
I do experience frequent annoyances when using mine.
- screen alignment sometimes acting up (will send it back, but I'm waiting for the firmware update to be released, so they can do it together)
- mediaplayer occasionally loses the storage card (solved by deleting MSMETADATA on the card)
- occasional refusal to use an existing gprs/umts (have to disconnect and reconnect)
- vpn shutting down too fast when using it with wifi (after 30s)
- activesync sometimes doesn't recognize the device, forcing me to rename it and perform a whole new sync
- occasional difficulty in connecting to the correct wifi network (e.g. when there are 4 available, it pops up a couple of times that it has a network, but the one I always connect to is the last one to be found)
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I have been using it for about a month now (was already sent back twice for keyboard and screen issues), and had to perform 3 hard resets as the behaviour got worse. I really like the device, but I wish there were less issues.
Jörg
After seeing the specs of the Hermes, I wanted it immediately.
Last week I finally bit the bullet, sold my Wizard (Cingular 8125) and got the Hermes.
For the most part, they are the same device, with the addition of 3G and a supposedly faster processor in the Hermes.
The Wizard was about as stable as a Windows Mobile device could be, at least in my opinion. I really didn't do much outrageous with it. I had a couple of games, TomTom 6, a dialer skin, and Good Mobile Messaging installed. I'd have to reset it maybe once a week or so, sometimes less than that because TomTom would lose connection to the GPS and nothing would get it back save for a reboot.
I took my Cingular 8525 (Hermes) out of the box, and I was really impressed by the device. The keyboard is far superior even though it's only a little different. I like the styling of the Hermes better, as well as the nice gunmetal finish. Download speeds are incredible (almost 900K in my house), and setting up Good Mobile Messaging OTA only took about 5 minutes vs. 20 on the Wizard.
The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset. Sometimes the phone will shut off the display and trying to turn the power back on does nothing and requires a reset. Sometimes the phone will show remnants of windows that were recently closed and that will require either opening up other programs to clear them, or a reset. Then there's the just plain ol' freeze. Not to mention that plugging in my car charger barely ever activates the charging circuit on the phone
I've had this phone for about 6 days now and I have to reboot it AT LEAST twice a day, sometimes three or four. AT LEAST. This is wholly unacceptable. If we weren't on the cusp of a firmware upgrade that is rumored to rectify most of the problems above, I'd be selling this and maybe getting a Treo 750 or a BlackJack.
I've had so many little issues like this with my Tytn, using both standard and latest roms, that I've simply decided to sell it. Its just not a great phone or a pda, although it has all the features you could ever dream of, it just never seems like its fast enough and the software just doesn't seem all that polished.
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
i835 chirp said:
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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Regarding the stuck on caps problem: if you select caps using the onscreen keyboard, then the physical keyboard is also put into caps. It is however not possible to turn this caps-lock off in using the physical keyboard. The solution is to open the onscreen keyboard, and turn it off there.
Jörg
8125 versus Hermes
I agree with you that the 8125 Wizard was more stable than the Hermes. I had one as well, and it would go weeks without resets or freezes.
You said:
" The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset."
I believe this is due to the external storage becoming lost. Since WM5 doesn't expect storage to ever go away, it just freezes waiting on the storage to come back. In the case of the start menu, I think it's waiting so it can get the icons of recently used programs. Just a theory.
To fight this problem, I've loaded weather programs and the like into main memory so that external storage is only accessed when I'm playing with the phone. That's made my hermes a lot more reliable, down to a failure or freeze every few days. Not as good as the Wizard, but tolerable.
I'm having a TON of problems...
I have my Cingular 8525 HTC
ROM Version: 1.34.502.1
ROM date: 09/21/06
Radio Version: 1.16.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.53.7018.01H
I am having horrible problems with it randomly locking up, and I have to soft-reset. This usually happens when I have it on the charger overnight, and someone text messages me while it's on the charger... and of course when I soft-reset I lose all the messages! What's even worse is when it boots back up it'll vibrate, and beep for a long time like it's getting messages and I have to just ignore it and put it on silent... but there are no messages! Is there a way to fix this? What do I do?! I'm starting to get very frustrated with the phone - the only thing I use repeatedly on here is the MS ActiveSync over the air...
Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?
marisa4755 said:
Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?
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This is an interesting idea. I will leave the messaging minimized overnight tonight. The password screen is there as a matter of policy - through my work - since the company owns the device and they push policy to it which requires a password PIN to be entered after 15min of inactivity... I'll try that?
Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?
i835 chirp said:
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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when i have this issue i click the ok button on the side and then it startss to work again without soft-reset.
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Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?
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Are you sure that the sounds are messages rather than notifications?
It could be that your notifications queue is gummed up with lots of stuff. Suggest you get Memmaid or similar, download the trial and run the notifications queue duplicates remover. Then look at any of the entries marked Calendar and check to see if any of these are in the past. If they are remove them. LEAVE ALONE any notifications that are not Calendar with a description of one of your appointments or reminders.
Worth a try.
I also had some troubles. It freezes anywhere between 2 and 20 times per day. I just did a hard reset few days ago and tried to determine if any of my programs installed causes it.
It runs quiet well with nothing installed. Most freezes i get after installing SBSH WeatherMonitor.
About the sudden loss of external memory, i cannot complain. I install everything system related into the main memory. But weather and flexmail are on the card. I even take the card out having the phone running.
Not probs there.
Generally my Blue Angel is a far better phone, although bulky like my grand mother and not useful in Japan.
Thanks for the replies. After reading through this thread it seems I am not the only one with problems. Nearly every 8525 problem I've had can be solved, they just keep coming back. Like 8525 not recognizing Storage Card music. The worst for me ( happens a lot ) is that when I put the phone on the charger, then the screen shuts off to save power, but when I take the charger out the screen cannot be turned back on and needs a soft reset.
Just wondering if anyone else have the same problem .. it's driving me nuts during hard resets, i have been reading this forums almost everyday and don't see anyone reporting on this issue
whenever i do a hard reset and try to install all my programs. In the midst of installing the programs, Manila will randomly get corrupted and i will be unable to use the touchscreen properly. At the START menu, whatever program i touch, it will show "MOVE TO THE TOP" and i can't scroll up or down.
i have to hard reset again in order to restore Manila and install the programs very very slowly and with a lot of time lag in between programs installation. Meaning, i install program A .. wait for 1-2 hours, install program B .. wait for 1-2 hours ...
very very irriting and i seem to be able to duplicate the issue quite successfullly. I ever had to hard reset 5-7 times during the weekend, until i realise i can prevent the issue by install my programs very very slowly.
Has anyone encountered the same problem?
zhix said:
Just wondering if anyone else have the same problem .. it's driving me nuts during hard resets, i have been reading this forums almost everyday and don't see anyone reporting on this issue
whenever i do a hard reset and try to install all my programs. In the midst of installing the programs, Manila will randomly get corrupted and i will be unable to use the touchscreen properly. At the START menu, whatever program i touch, it will show "MOVE TO THE TOP" and i can't scroll up or down.
i have to hard reset again in order to restore Manila and install the programs very very slowly and with a lot of time lag in between programs installation. Meaning, i install program A .. wait for 1-2 hours, install program B .. wait for 1-2 hours ...
very very irriting and i seem to be able to duplicate the issue quite successfullly. I ever had to hard reset 5-7 times during the weekend, until i realise i can prevent the issue by install my programs very very slowly.
Has anyone encountered the same problem?
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Does it happen if you don't install any software? I only ask in case it's a particular application that's causing the problem.
If it does happen, you should immediately get on to your supplier to arrange a replacement.
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Does it happen if you don't install any software? I only ask in case it's a particular application that's causing the problem.
If it does happen, you should immediately get on to your supplier to arrange a replacement.
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that's the strange thing, it doesn't happen at any particular application .. and after hard reset, it will work fine.
it sorts of happens randomly, whilst during program installation.
i'm thinking of bringing it down to HTC service center but i bet they will do a hard reset and show me that everything's fine and blame it on the 3rd party SW.
zhix said:
that's the strange thing, it doesn't happen at any particular application .. and after hard reset, it will work fine.
it sorts of happens randomly, whilst during program installation.
i'm thinking of bringing it down to HTC service center but i bet they will do a hard reset and show me that everything's fine and blame it on the 3rd party SW.
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Can you not try using it for a while without any 3rd party software? Just to see if it happens that way. This is obviously not a long-term solution, but if it only happens during installation then it actually does sound like that's the problem.
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Can you not try using it for a while without any 3rd party software? Just to see if it happens that way. This is obviously not a long-term solution, but if it only happens during installation then it actually does sound like that's the problem.
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have tested that out, the symptops will NOT surface, in fact the phone is very stable as long as i don't do a mass installation of the apps. Now i am restricting myself for 1 App installation PER DAY.
but i can successfully duplicate the issue almost 95% of the time by doing a mass installation of my apps (install1, reboot, install App2 ..)
very strange and it seems not as wide spread as i thought it would be .. i have not heard of such similar problems yet.
What rom are you on please?
WB
wacky.banana said:
What rom are you on please?
WB
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Currently on 1.66 but i have seen it in both 1.66 and 1.48 ROMs
Can somebody with the know how make a little program which litterally only performs one task: kills the process services.exe.
The reason for this is it is the cause of many soft resets in a day. Sometimes not even fixing the slowdown anyway and causing the famous black screen of death.
But as soon as i go to sktools and use the processes tool and kill the process phone goes back to being how it should! However because the phone goes into major slowdown it takes ages for the sktools processes program to load and then hard to select services from the list because of the lagging etc so it would be nice just to have a link that i could put on my quick links and when phone goes to melt down just press this magic button which saves the phone being hurled at a wall!
It needs to be called Meltdown Override or something!
This is a serious request as it would make HD2 use a much more pleasant experience!
Many thanks
This is pretty easy to do AFAIK...
If nobody else does it, I can do it when I have some more free time ...
I would appreciate this so much!
I think I may even use AEB to assign it to a long press of the back key or something
But, does services.exe auto-starts again? Because you could have some problems if you kill it and don't start it again...
Yer it does straight away but not running at 90% + CPU.
I find it unlikely that services.exe is really the culprit here, but rather a service installed on your phone that is misbehaving. If you find out which service is causing the problem, and then uninstall or disable it....
curing the disease, rather than treating the symptoms.
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I find it unlikely that services.exe is really the culprit here, but rather a service installed on your phone that is misbehaving. If you find out which service is causing the problem, and then uninstall or disable it....
curing the disease, rather than treating the symptoms.
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This guy is right...
Ive only just installed a new ROM voda UK 1.72 so I have next to no programs installed at the moment so I don't see what could cause it.
The main time this happens is when left charging over night and when you go to use it in the morning it's completely screwed. Soft reset doesnt fix it it just goes to black screen of death so then u have to take the battery cover off and reset again. The only thing i have found to get it to a useable state again is to kill process services.exe, and then its fine again. Once by doing that it stopped weather update and text messaging from working but atleast when i then did a soft reset things where still fine and those two things worked again and no laggy phone.
I kno it seems stupid to just kill a process and not find the problem but i cant see what the problem could be considering how recently i hard reset the phone (which i did 3 times in total to see if it got rid of the problem).
Just forget that ROM and go back to a working one? Seems easy to me... don't always need to have the latest or highest version number, just something that works... If 1.72 doesn't work for you, don't use it!
I would if it wasn't for the fact that after doing the annoying procedure in the morning of killing process "services.exe" then soft reseting, it runs the quickest i have ever been able to use the device on any ROM before it
You know that services.exe is one of the main parts of your phone-funcionality (calls, sms, etc.)?
As you said you experience it in most cases in the morning... Have u got GAlarm installed?
If yes --> Did you check the RegKey MidnightWakeup=True and change it to false?
My Girlfriends TD2 had the same issue. CPU usage by services.exe was often around 70-90% until i applied this change...
Services.exe is just like svchost on a windows-machine, it just hosts a bunch of services. So most likely its a service that has gone crazy.
Ive had my Omnia 7 (8gig, Three network) for over a week now, and while I like the phone and want to keep it, I feel like returning it and asking for another. (another omnia 7)
The reason for this is that it seems to crash a lot! Numerous third party apps and even occasionally the first party hubs seem to randomly crash, refuse to load or freeze/hang the phone. Sometimes I can use it for a whole day with no problems, but occasionally i can use it for 15-30 minutes and have numerous apps refuse to load or crash and maybe even freeze the phone, making it totally unresponsive and forcing me to restart the phone 2 or 3 times!
The most common main culprits are ebay, yellow pages, remotely possible, poynt, imdb, fantasia painter, train travel, xbox live extras, marketplace. But almost every app ive downloaded (aswell as zune, messaging and hotmail) has bugged out at some point
It seems totally random as like ive said above sometimes everything just works perfectly and other times it throws a wobbler. I'm left wondering if this is just because its an immature OS and it'll get better with updates or ive just got a dodgy handset and should get a replacement.
Which leads me to ask you all a question:
How often does an app on your Omnia 7 crash, freeze or reset your phone?
Thank you,
Liam
This is weird. Could it be bad memory? I have an Omnia since 8-9 days, and it's been perfect, practically. Just felt something was amiss with Zune yesterday, briefly, but haven't had any other problem. Of course, I don't have that many apps installed -- and haven't tried out eBay/imdb/poynt etc...
Maybe, you could try a hard reset?
Omnia 7 rocks
Mine is working fine, try a hard reset. If the hard reset doesn't help, i would demand a replacement.
Had zero crashes on my Omnis after 3 weeks of constant use. Only bug I have is in internet explorer sometimes not scrolling down until 2nd try. I would guess it is one of the 3rd party apps causing your problems.
Mine sometimes crashed in Marketplace or Zune. When I tried to open one of those I got a couple of loading dots but the app didn't launch.
I only got my Omnia for a couple of days - I hope that this will not happen often...
ok im definately gonna do what i can to exchange it for a new one now. twice in a row it broke while just trying to send a text message.
The first time it froze and needed restarting, the second time the screen went dim and the touchscreen stopped working until i restarted it
I would like to start this out by saying that I have had my Bravo since January 16, and have loved every minute of it. This has been my first Android (Came over from my iPhone 3G). I was extremely excited to finally get the upgrade to 2.2, even though I decided to wait to officially download it OTA.
Since I got my phone, I had no more than three to five apps force close on my using the stock launcher. I rarely noticed much of any lag while working with my phone, and I never once had any issues with the phone rebooting itself on me.
Since I updated my phone on Saturday I've been plagued with all of these issues. Immediately after updating, I noticed my phone was running very hot, and my battery drained to 50% within an hour or two without me even running anything stressful on it. I restarted it twice and since then I haven't noticed any significant issues with my battery, or the phone seeming to run it's processor excessively.
But, I have constant lag, making tasks that were extremely quick and easy before the weekend be significantly more difficult and frustrating. Today I've even noticed that the lag is so bad that I am not even able to use Swype because the phone takes so long to register any touch's it doesn't register anything other than the first and last letter I swyped across. In addition, my phone has rebooted itself 3 times within the last three days I've been using it, an issue that has not happened once in the three months before this weekend.
I will regularly be trying to do things on my phone and it will lag, causing the phone to freeze for 20-30 seconds at a time, and then trying to perform every touch it received in those 20-30 seconds in a scant second after it recovers.
I have noticed some issues not regarding lag, but sometimes it has been difficult for my phone to initiate calls. I have tried to call my wife, and it took 5 times before the call would finally go through, it was immediately ending the call right after I pressed the call button.
I love my phone and the capabilities of the Android system. Until now I haven't had any problems at all with it. Can you help me try to figure out what's happening, and if there are any ways to fix my phone? I haven't gotten around to rooting my phone since I've gotten it, but have been planning on it.
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I would like to start this out by saying that I have had my Bravo since January 16, and have loved every minute of it. This has been my first Android (Came over from my iPhone 3G). I was extremely excited to finally get the upgrade to 2.2, even though I decided to wait to officially download it OTA.
Since I got my phone, I had no more than three to five apps force close on my using the stock launcher. I rarely noticed much of any lag while working with my phone, and I never once had any issues with the phone rebooting itself on me.
Since I updated my phone on Saturday I've been plagued with all of these issues. Immediately after updating, I noticed my phone was running very hot, and my battery drained to 50% within an hour or two without me even running anything stressful on it. I restarted it twice and since then I haven't noticed any significant issues with my battery, or the phone seeming to run it's processor excessively.
But, I have constant lag, making tasks that were extremely quick and easy before the weekend be significantly more difficult and frustrating. Today I've even noticed that the lag is so bad that I am not even able to use Swype because the phone takes so long to register any touch's it doesn't register anything other than the first and last letter I swyped across. In addition, my phone has rebooted itself 3 times within the last three days I've been using it, an issue that has not happened once in the three months before this weekend.
I will regularly be trying to do things on my phone and it will lag, causing the phone to freeze for 20-30 seconds at a time, and then trying to perform every touch it received in those 20-30 seconds in a scant second after it recovers.
I have noticed some issues not regarding lag, but sometimes it has been difficult for my phone to initiate calls. I have tried to call my wife, and it took 5 times before the call would finally go through, it was immediately ending the call right after I pressed the call button.
I love my phone and the capabilities of the Android system. Until now I haven't had any problems at all with it. Can you help me try to figure out what's happening, and if there are any ways to fix my phone? I haven't gotten around to rooting my phone since I've gotten it, but have been planning on it.
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Something probably is messed up in the upgrade process.
Simple solution, flash the 2.2 sbf and you should be good.
roadkizzle, Something doesn't sound right at all with your update. I would try to remove the battery for a minute and reboot. If you still have issues I would try a factory data reset. If that doesn't cure your ills then flashing the 2.2sbf as bandroidx suggested may be in order.
Alright, I flashed the SBF file to the phone through RSDLite, and from what I can see it went through correctly. My only question now is do you think I'll need to try to re-install the full update? Or is that similar to what I did?
roadkizzle said:
Alright, I flashed the SBF file to the phone through RSDLite, and from what I can see it went through correctly. My only question now is do you think I'll need to try to re-install the full update? Or is that similar to what I did?
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flashing the sbf already updated your phone to 2.2. You don't need to do anything else
I hope reflashing did the trick for you. That experience sounds nasty...
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Well, after a couple of hours of playing with my phone it's seeming better. I have been playing a few games of Worms, and my normal surfing the internet and so far I haven't noticed any real lag. The test will be my day through tomorrow.
I was just really confused because I was following the instructions from the Flashing SPRecovery SBF to a Motorola Droid youtube video, and his SBF file really seemed to only change the recovery screen. It looked like he still had to go through the actual update.zip process to make the actual updates to his phone.
Alright it's official, flashing the sbf did not fix the lag issues. My phone hasn't had a critical malfunction and reboot itself yet today, but the lag is unbearable.
roadkizzle, It sounds like you are still having issues. If you look at the system version in "about phone" in settings menu does it say version 37.4.0.MB520??
Yes, it says Version.37.4.0.MB520.ATT.en.US
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Alright it's official, flashing the sbf did not fix the lag issues. My phone hasn't had a critical malfunction and reboot itself yet today, but the lag is unbearable.
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what apps do you have installed?
look in task master and get rid of any auto-ends and reboot and see if that makes a difference
Well, immediately after removing the AT&T apps from the auto-end list and rebooting, I thought I noticed some lag initially, but I've let it run for a few days now doing everything I was before and I've not been having any of those issues recently.
I'm not sure what it was. I wasn't very aggressive adding apps to my auto-end list, really just Maps and the AT&T apps. I added maps after a while because when I would use it once it would stay open and I'd notice later on that it would have been a major consumer of my battery, and I couldn't figure out how to close it fully.
Glad to hear things are going better. I had some issues totally unrelated to the apps I had in auto-end but pulling all of them off of auto-end got rid of the issues. Froyo is supposed to minimise the need for having to add apps to auto-end in task manager. Regards
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roadkizzle - my situation sounds very similar to yours and I wanted see if you are also seeing a couple of other symptoms I've seen beyond what you have indicated. This has been an issue from early on for me. At first it seemed to be associated to when the battery was low, but it is now ever increasingly interrupting my use of the phone. I was hoping 2.2 might resolve some of this, but it hasn't.
Background: Purchased/activated phone early Jan 2011; recently upgraded to the 2.2 sys and used the official channels; all apps I've added are lightweight stuff (ex: notepad-type stuff, weather widget) and I have pushed most unused stuff to the auto-end list.
Similar symptoms: I see the same power drain and high CPU usage when using maps/navigator (really evident on a recent trip). Still monitoring if some of that can be attributed to use of the GPS.
I'm getting a similar lag though I wish it was only for the short period you are seeing. I've only rarely been able to just put the phone down and have it responsive when I get back to it. Maps/Navigator were especially susceptible to this problem, and it seemed consistent with the 90%+ CPU usage often seen when they are running.
I don't use swipe, but the keypad is most often what is being used when the lag kicks in... the entire phone just goes completely unresponsive, including any and all other input such as the hardware home/back keys, etc.
In addition: Better than half the time that the qwerty touchpad becomes unresponsive, I see sporadically entered random keystrokes to my messages... everything from initiating the voice input to entering several dozen spaces or just simple random characters. This happens at a random, often changing rate and I see the keys lighting up and the haptic responses happen as if I were touching the keys, but they are not from any delay in the input. Once ruling out an exorcism, this has started me thinking I might have a hardware issue with the touchpad. The phone has not been dropped or roughed up in any way, so if it is HDWR, it's a manuf issue.
Luckily.... in 99% of the cases where this happens, using the HDWR power button to cycle the screen through a sleep and back resolves the issue. Not a big deal unless you have to do it 3 times to send one text/mail. This has me constantly thinking about items on the auto-end list but I have not unearthed anything to support that.
The other 1% of the time I have had to reboot the phone, but in those cases I can't rule out 'user issues' due to just pure frustration. Task Manager has become my most freq used app, but often I see everything at 0% CPU and/or not running.
I'm wondering if any of these additional symptoms sound familiar...
thx.
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roadkizzle - my situation sounds very similar to yours and I wanted see if you are also seeing a couple of other symptoms I've seen beyond what you have indicated. This has been an issue from early on for me. At first it seemed to be associated to when the battery was low, but it is now ever increasingly interrupting my use of the phone. I was hoping 2.2 might resolve some of this, but it hasn't.
Background: Purchased/activated phone early Jan 2011; recently upgraded to the 2.2 sys and used the official channels; all apps I've added are lightweight stuff (ex: notepad-type stuff, weather widget) and I have pushed most unused stuff to the auto-end list.
Similar symptoms: I see the same power drain and high CPU usage when using maps/navigator (really evident on a recent trip). Still monitoring if some of that can be attributed to use of the GPS.
I'm getting a similar lag though I wish it was only for the short period you are seeing. I've only rarely been able to just put the phone down and have it responsive when I get back to it. Maps/Navigator were especially susceptible to this problem, and it seemed consistent with the 90%+ CPU usage often seen when they are running.
I don't use swipe, but the keypad is most often what is being used when the lag kicks in... the entire phone just goes completely unresponsive, including any and all other input such as the hardware home/back keys, etc.
In addition: Better than half the time that the qwerty touchpad becomes unresponsive, I see sporadically entered random keystrokes to my messages... everything from initiating the voice input to entering several dozen spaces or just simple random characters. This happens at a random, often changing rate and I see the keys lighting up and the haptic responses happen as if I were touching the keys, but they are not from any delay in the input. Once ruling out an exorcism, this has started me thinking I might have a hardware issue with the touchpad. The phone has not been dropped or roughed up in any way, so if it is HDWR, it's a manuf issue.
Luckily.... in 99% of the cases where this happens, using the HDWR power button to cycle the screen through a sleep and back resolves the issue. Not a big deal unless you have to do it 3 times to send one text/mail. This has me constantly thinking about items on the auto-end list but I have not unearthed anything to support that.
The other 1% of the time I have had to reboot the phone, but in those cases I can't rule out 'user issues' due to just pure frustration. Task Manager has become my most freq used app, but often I see everything at 0% CPU and/or not running.
I'm wondering if any of these additional symptoms sound familiar...
thx.
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Try taking things off of the auto-end list. You shouldn't need the task killer because android manages apps on its own (it's supposed to manage apps better in froyo than in 2.1)
I've also had lag, especially when opening maps (the first time I open maps it often force closes).
Can anyone get the "lock pattern" screen without the slide to unlock? It seems like a common "Motorola 2.2" issue, but I can't figure out if it gets resolved through an update or not
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I've also had lag, especially when opening maps (the first time I open maps it often force closes).
Can anyone get the "lock pattern" screen without the slide to unlock? It seems like a common "Motorola 2.2" issue, but I can't figure out if it gets resolved through an update or not
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it can be fixed through the settings.db in the com.android.providers.settings, but i dont remember what to edit inside.
or you can download No Lock from the Market
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.jraf.android.nolock
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it can be fixed through the settings.db in the com.android.providers.settings, but i dont remember what to edit inside.
or you can download No Lock from the Market
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NoLlock just seems to turn the lock screen on and off altogether?
I can get the screen lock on and off, I just can't get the pattern lock without the side-to-side swipe lock at the same time
This is messing with
PS . If you can't get your screen to stop locking all the time with froyo 2.2.1dissable it in the same location ID # 61 screen_lock set to 0. ),
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and the settings menus.
There are several other seemingly lock-related database settings, but I'm worried about locking myself out
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NoLlock just seems to turn the lock screen on and off altogether?
I can get the screen lock on and off, I just can't get the pattern lock without the side-to-side swipe lock at the same time
This is messing with
and the settings menus.
There are several other seemingly lock-related database settings, but I'm worried about locking myself out
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You can always sbf if you get locked out. your data will also be kept