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Dear all,
My Softbank X01HT need replace. I would like to buy a Touch pro or X1 or Touch HD. (Mainly is Touch Pro or X1. It is because it has a keyboard) My requirement is the mobile run smooth and sound louder. Any suggestion? Please advise. Thanks!
Wai Wai said:
Dear all,
My Softbank X01HT need replace. I would like to buy a Touch pro or X1 or Touch HD. (Mainly is Touch Pro or X1. It is because it has a keyboard) My requirement is the mobile run smooth and sound louder. Any suggestion? Please advise. Thanks!
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There are a lot of tests, comparisons and videos to exactly this decision all over the web. It's being discussed here too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430501
I had to decide between these both too, because I wanted a WinMo device with a hardware keyboard. I then chose the Xperia for these reasons:
- better display with higher resolution
- longer battery lifetime
- 3,5" headphone jack
And I definitely don't regret the decision. The Xperia is simply the best pocketpcphonemusicplayer I ever had.
if you have a doubt... I strongly recommend you go get the Touch Pro....
only because I have a X1 and I want to be the only guy with the cool toy when everyone get their phone out in the bar
I was with the same doubt days ago.
I've chosen the X1 for various reasons, althrough the touch pro is cheaper:
- screen
- lighter
- better looking
- screen (again)
- curved slider (works nicely)
- slimer
- battery
- panels (through I don't really use them, they are like "beta" right now, for me, has more potential than TouchFlo. Also, I hate TouchFlo, don't like at all that interface)
Anyways, in the end, it's a matter of tastes, take a look at the two, compare keyboards (touch pro got a bunch of extra keys) and get the one you like more.
If you have the chance: try each of them out. Even a little typing test at a store gets you far -> if you're looking for a hw keyboard device testing each of them tells you alot. My preference is with the better keyboard of the TP and now that I have them both I tend to choose TP for main use and X1 for the weekends.
Many have experienced the X1 as the better performer sound-wise and I have also the feeling that X1 is smoother to use (drawback to me here is the limited use of each panel -> touchflo gives me more in one interface. The panels really taka a couple of secs to change between).
..btw: searching this forum gets you a ton of threads also such similar phones have been compared 'ad nauseam'..
As an owner of both the Xperia is much better for me...
xperia. better than that chubby feeling weird thing they call the touch pro
Lol, just stumbled on this thread, and boy are a lot of you full of yourselves with the X1.
Xperia surely gets me more attention than the iphone which is so common now.
also, people love it when i pull out the keyboard..they almost give out that 'wow' look.
x1 here 2
seeing as you are posting on the x1 section of the forum would be logical ;p
same reasons as the others it seems
some extra
i played with a iphone, pro, hd and x1 before deciding (phones of colleages)
the x1 is more responsive,
feels stronger,
touch screen seems more sensitive and lies a bit deeper in the phone
-->so less im lying on the table/in protector activating myself but more hard to remove dust at the edge of the screen (do get a decent protector as there is none included)
My wife has a pro (that i have to maintain (software ...)) i dont like the flow interface, looks good but isn't functional. that said i only use the Spb panel on the x1. (as main, do use the players ...)
i like that interface. panels could grow in the future.
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Thank you all of your reply. I still worry about the GPS, ringtone and UI for X1. But I will go to try these phone on tonight. I hope I will not disappoint.
Wai Wai said:
Thank you all of your reply. I still worry about the GPS, ringtone and UI for X1. But I will go to try these phone on tonight. I hope I will not disappoint.
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Saw the Touch Pro and I prefer the X1. Larger screen, feels less bulky, less cramped keyboard.
UI you can fix - just get the TF3D menu software or go for SPB Mobile Shell
Ringtone - what's the issue? It does mp3's just fine. Only annoyance is for alarm tones u need to convert to WAV 1st (no MIDI allowed), but hardly a major problem.
GPS works fine - I have Tomtom running on it, and it's as good as the not-so-cheapo Mio Digiwalker I picked up two years ago
Wai Wai said:
Thank you all of your reply. I still worry about the GPS, ringtone and UI for X1. But I will go to try these phone on tonight. I hope I will not disappoint.
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What about the UI?
The panels are great. With the SE-Panel you have everything you need in one panel -calender, messaging, weather, shortcuts aso...
You don't need to change pages like with the touchflothing. TouchFlo is one of the reasons for me not to buy a HTC phone.
I now have the SE Desktop Panel with everything I need, additionally a fullscreen weather panel if I want to know more about forecast, windspeeds and whatelse, one panel for everything that's multimedia and one panel is for the navigation software TomTom which works great with with the internal GPS.
Hm, I don't know what your issue with the ringtones is, but I haven't got a problem with them except that the speaker isn't the best so the doublebassdrum and electric guitars don't blow you away
Haha...Another problem occurs ....X1 or HD??(Haha...don't hit me...)
anyone can help?
i am almost always clicking the wrong things..
keyboard letters jumps between the 2 for example i want A but it alternates between A and S...
i tried to click contact 1 but it often jumps to 2...
i told cap. screens makes typing "better" ( those apple fans say so ) it is much worst than my finger nail hd
/sings help i need someeeeeeeeeeebodyyyyyyy
can anyone advise?
leobox1 said:
anyone can help?
i am almost always clicking the wrong things..
/sings help i need someeeeeeeeeeebodyyyyyyy
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If you haven't calibrated your screen, you may try to do so.
There are some tips for learning how to type on this forum. Read it, it may help also.
Try to reduce the sensitivity of the screen, there is a twik how to do it, here on XDA among other tips. (Tips to Improve Typing Accuracy on Keyboard)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
I have also switched from hd only.
For some, it takes some time to get used to it.
Have patience. Just remember to touch as gently as u can.
Also, try the sensitivity tweaks.
What is the ROM you're using? If you're using 1.43 ROM, applying sensitivity cab would help.
At first I had some problem with the HTC keyboard but now I can type quite easily.
You should try Swype, it's a very good keyboard except it lacks direction keys on the main keyboard. Another interesting keyboard is Fingerkeyboard, you can seach this forum.
kengkaj.s said:
What is the ROM you're using? If you're using 1.43 ROM, applying sensitivity cab would help.
At first I had some problem with the HTC keyboard but now I can type quite easily.
You should try Swype, it's a very good keyboard except it lacks direction keys on the main keyboard. Another interesting keyboard is Fingerkeyboard, you can seach this forum.
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I used Energy ROM WM6.5 on my Blackstone in conjunction with Fingerkeyboard and loved it.
Moving to the Leo, I struggled with the standard HTC Keyboard but installed Fingerkeyboard and finding it almost as good as the Blackstone. Having used it for less than 24 hours, I am not yet used to the Leo screen but I do not feel that far behind where I was on the Blackstone already.
Methinks the best phone around (Blackstone) just got a whole lot better (Leo)
i am using stock 1.48
sometimes, the alpha jumps between the 2 letters... this is making me crazy
I hope this ins't redundant or something you're aware of, but the button you release, rather than touch first, is typed. In the day or so I've had mine I've concentrated on tapping quick, light and as straight up and down as possible.
HD to Leo
I struggled with the keyboard too coming from HD to Leo.
I am using cliquick which does the job, minus direction keys.
Hi,
I'm specifically wanting to chat to users who has upgraded from a Kaiser to the Leo?
I know its a narrow request but im still using my kaiser and really want to know the impact of the loss of the hardware buttons etc.
Thanks
Kaiser to Leo
I've owned a kaiser for almost two years now and have been following XDA since the first day I got it, and with any luck i'll be getting the leo next week thru TMO. and will post any information I can.
Yep. Forgot about the Kaiser as soon as I got the Leo. Put it on sale, took it out again after a week to wipe/pack it, and wondered how on earth I spent 2 years on that tiny and slow brick.
The keyboard is missed indeed, but that's minor next to the rest.
moving from the Kaiser to the Leo is one thing you shall not regret..
the capacitive multitouch screen is awesome for typing, the big size makes it even better...
the 1ghz processer makes everything totally fluid, from the interface to the camera..
im sure you remember the openGL problems in the kaiser (hardware 3d acceleration), well that will be a thing of the past with the LEO which has openGLES 2.0 support
but hey, thats just my opinion
Two months ago I had to sent my HD2 for screen repair, at that time I was forced to use my Kaiser for a week. I was so shocked, everything was so slow and I could not orientate on the small screen.
I upgraded from Kaiser to Leo (HD2). The HD2 is the single best windows mobile device ever bar none IMHO. Upgrade now you will not regret it.
Thanks for your responses, please keep them coming!
The other question i have is: Which apps did you lose when you upgraded?
My list of favourite apps, are in my signature, so if you happen to know how well they run on the Leo, i'd appreciate the feedback.
Theoretically, they should all work, given my Kaiser is running 6.1 but since screen resolution may be a limitation of any application, i'd sure like to find out before i commit.
Lastly, is there any videos that show how appointments are displayed on the Leo's Today screen? Can you still add today screen items?
And is there a standby button to lock the screen and turn the screen off?
Cheers!
had Kaiser before Leo
There will be some things you will miss, but it will depend on how you use the phone and for what purpose.
I miss being able to highlight text in the calendar header (without having to go to edit mode. It is more difficult to highlight text without a stylus, and drawing in notes etc with a finger tip is a lot harder.
If you have added a lot of features to your Kaiser from XDA Dev (or other places). It will take you some time to find the adons to do the same functions. It's a whole new learning curve.
The HD2 is a giant step foward, but it does have it's quirks and frustrations. Plan on spending hours on here finding solutions.
It does not come with a belt case! You don't need a screen protector. The speakers are fairly CR#P. The graphics are fantastic - movies , photos etc. It has the Cool factor. Google maps are great on this.
The camera can be annoying - It won't take a picture until it can focus (if you have a moving object, can drive you crazy while it takes 10 seconds to focus).
The kaiser was great (would buy them for my staff), the HD2 is better.
I had to buy mine at full price as they are not brought into NZ by vodafone.
Note for any one in NZ - Vodafone phone insure wanted to replace my Kaiser (TYTN II) with a nokia E71, E72 or E75. they will not replace with a phone they do not sell, nor an iphone or BBerry The phone they sold for $1800, they replaced with a phone with resale value of $635.
GLO said:
My list of favourite apps, are in my signature, so if you happen to know how well they run on the Leo, i'd appreciate the feedback.
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Worldcard mobile is stock with the HD2, SPB wireless monitor works fine... never heard of all the other ones
GLO said:
Lastly, is there any videos that show how appointments are displayed on the Leo's Today screen? Can you still add today screen items?
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By default the HD2 doesn't use the Today screen anymore, it's replaced by the HTC Sense interface. Check the official videos for a glimpse. You can enhance it (see this), disable it and go back to the old Today screen (would remove most of the HD2's beauty though), or integrate a Today screen within it as a tab (see this).
kilrah said:
SPB wireless monitor works fine...
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Thanks for all that info.
Will SPB Wireless monitor stay on the SenseUI front page?
Can you post a screen shot please?
GLO said:
Will SPB Wireless monitor stay on the SenseUI front page?
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Nope, but it's the only reason why I use MTP
I'm looking to make this very upgrade as Virgin UK have what seems like a very good offer on at the moment - £25/month and HD2 for free. I do just have a couple of questions that may make the decision to move from my Kaiser easier for me - they might be silly questions, but here goes anyway:
A problem I currently have with the Kaiser is that the lock screen is very dim and I really struggle to see it in sunlight - does this problem still exist with the Leo?
I am very used to using the stylus or the keyboard and find that I make only a few mistakes in text entry - is the Leo's screen keyboard as easy to use and is there a text entry screen similar to the block recogniser or letter recogniser in WM6?
GPS on the Kaiser is very slow to get a fix using TomTom 6 - is the Leo quicker and will TomTom 6 still run on the Leo?
My Kaiser will usually go for a couple of days without a charge - with the same sort of use what sort of life should I expect with a Leo?
Many thanks in anticipation of some useful replies.
dryden said:
I'm looking to make this very upgrade as Virgin UK have what seems like a very good offer on at the moment - £25/month and HD2 for free. I do just have a couple of questions that may make the decision to move from my Kaiser easier for me - they might be silly questions, but here goes anyway:
A problem I currently have with the Kaiser is that the lock screen is very dim and I really struggle to see it in sunlight - does this problem still exist with the Leo?
I am very used to using the stylus or the keyboard and find that I make only a few mistakes in text entry - is the Leo's screen keyboard as easy to use and is there a text entry screen similar to the block recogniser or letter recogniser in WM6?
GPS on the Kaiser is very slow to get a fix using TomTom 6 - is the Leo quicker and will TomTom 6 still run on the Leo?
My Kaiser will usually go for a couple of days without a charge - with the same sort of use what sort of life should I expect with a Leo?
Many thanks in anticipation of some useful replies.
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1) You'll have no problem with the lock screen on the Leo. A gesture is all it takes to unlock it and you can choose your own screen for good measure.
2) There are various inputs available for the HD2. Using the touch screen after being used to a hardware keyboard takes some getting used to, but once you're there you won't want to go back! I'd highly recommend Swype v3.19.20.20.6343 as an alternative text input method.
3) The HD2 is very, very fast at finding and locking onto satellites. It also downloads a satellite database when needed which means locking on takes seconds. I can even usually get a fix indoors quite easily, something none of my many GPS devices can't do.
4) You're looking at charging every night, depending on use. Obviously battery life isn't a strong point of a phone this powerful, but there are various ways to maximise battery life when you need to. I've settled for buying a spare battery ($4 from Dealextreme) and a charger which charges the spare battery + the phone (£3 on ebay).
Don't forget Quidco (www.quidco.com) if you're signing up to Virgin, currently £30 cashback to be had! http://www.quidco.com/virgin-mobile/
Good luck!
kilrah said:
Yep. Forgot about the Kaiser as soon as I got the Leo. Put it on sale, took it out again after a week to wipe/pack it, and wondered how on earth I spent 2 years on that tiny and slow brick.
The keyboard is missed indeed, but that's minor next to the rest.
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Cheers!
I have two Kaisers.
I also have a Rhodium.
I now have an HD2.
HD2 screen is enough reason to upgrade for me.
Best HTC phone I have had.
Hallo boys and girls. Thanks to this forum I have learned how to flash my Touch HD ROM and have had fun with several different ones. But I still find a few things I can't find the simple answer to and I promise I have searched a lot before posting.
1) Rotation. Some ROMs seem to auto rotate, some partially autorotate, some need G-Sensor and some use MaxManila. I can't quite work out what is supposed to happen. Is there such a thing as a ROM where every screen rotates without having to do anything. XannyTech with MaxManila seemed to rotate everything but only after rotation is switched on (derr). With G Sensor, you seem to need to access each application, do the stylus thing and reset.
Have I got that right or am I missing something blindingly obvious?
2) Is it a Touch HD or HD2? Sometimes when I am looking for other apps, there are versions for HD and for HD2. After I have installed the new ROM, does my device "think" it is an HD or HD2?
3) From many posts, I gain the opinion that Sense (Manila) 2.1 is not as hard on resources as Sense 2.5. But shortcuts to programs are only available on 2.5 (I found someone working on this for 2.1 but not released yet). I think Agenda view is also only on 2.5.
4) On most of the new ROMs I flashed, the phone can hang quite badly sometimes. It seems to be mostly when accessing contacts. I have gone back to a ROM with Sense 2.1 now to see if it is a 2.1 vs 2.5 thing. Is there something else I should try, is it to do with HTC Messaging or just part of the fun of trying different ROMs?
5) And how should I work out whether to install an app to device or storage card - which is "best" and why?
Trying different ROMS and reading the posts here is good fun (mostly) so thanks to you all for that. But sometimes to flash and re-set up everything up so I am ready for work with everything, satnav, contacts all ready and working for Monday can take quite a long time so your help is always appreciated. Thanks.
Hello. I am the proud owner of a new HD2. I have also had a TP2 for about six months and they are very similar except for the much bigger screen, the loss of a physical keyboard and much better speed.
I have already Hard SPLd the device and it is running Energy's newest ROM (I have been using his on my TP2 for months and love them) just for the faster speed (supposedly) and better icons across the top. I am also running the newest version of SPL Shell which I love so far.
However, I would really like the thing to auto rotate. I am used to the TP2 rotating for me or at least when I snap out the keyboard. I BsB came with the ROM and I have it trying to rotate SPL but it is not doing what I want. For one thing to register the program you just have to run it and shake. I did this and it looks like it appears in the menu. I can get the carousel to rotate (with some shaking and effort) but that is about it. Any suggestions?
Gyrator is what you are looking for....http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
Alternatively find and install BSB Tweaks.
WB
Actually he said he has BsB and that it does not work.
I don't know what do you mean by 'carousel'. Anyway .. calibrate your G-sensor first. Then you will have to reboot after the shaking (ie. close BsB, and it will ask for reboot, say yes).
He probably means SPB Shell (which has the cool carousel) and I wonder if BsB Tweaks works with that. Wasn't it made for Sense specifically?