i just noticed inside my x1i, the memory states 281.71 total, umm i thought the phone was suppose to be 384. does anyone else has this, or is my phone crazy??
people report that the rest is dedicated video ram and cant be seen or accessed by the normal system
david2047 said:
i just noticed inside my x1i, the memory states 281.71 total, umm i thought the phone was suppose to be 384. does anyone else has this, or is my phone crazy??
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as always, search befor posting, take a look at unofficial sony ericsson blog and you will se ---ehum there is a post just in this section, in this forum...
david2047 said:
i just noticed inside my x1i, the memory states 281.71 total, umm i thought the phone was suppose to be 384. does anyone else has this, or is my phone crazy??
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that's actually the ROM available, the RAM is named as "program" memory which even smaller : 200MB
nap007 said:
that's actually the ROM available, the RAM is named as "program" memory which even smaller : 200MB
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You mean 256MB?
oh okay, that would make alot of sense, thanks alot, and i did search for it, but i found alot alot of people proving it by reviews, i didnt find any through personal use, expect for this one person, who also said it was less than 384, but thanks to everyone for helping out!
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You mean 256MB?
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The total RAM is 256 MB, the free RAM available for is noted as 200.48 MB
Related
i remember the regular hd had 300 mb of storage or something like that,
hd2 has 180mb, this is a big loss
mrturq said:
i remember the regular hd had 300 mb of storage or something like that,
hd2 has 180mb, this is a big loss
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add 32Go sdcard etc. o_o
ganon4 said:
add 32Go sdcard etc. o_o
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verry funny
no serious, when you install apps on your storage card, it installs systems files too, on the phone storage, so it always uses the phonestorage
Try searching before posting a new thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583468
ardsar said:
Try searching before posting a new thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583468
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couldn't find it, but thnx.
This is a quick blurb that will make a lot of people happy. Remember the ramhack for the G1? Well, the Nexus One only has 218MB memory available to Linux, despite having a whopping 512MB total. Even the Motorola Droid, with 256MB total, has more RAM available to Linux! I asked about this, and romainguy explained on the Android IRC channel:
<coolbho3k> How can the Droid have 256MB of RAM but 230+MB memfree, while the Nexus has 512MB RAM but only 218MB memfree?
<@romainguy_> there's a limitation in the kernel
<@romainguy_> next update should give you 100 or 150 MB back
<coolbho3k> Very nice!!!
<@romainguy_> swetland can tell you more
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There we go. A "memhack" kernel update in the next Nexus One OTA should give us an additional 100-150MB RAM. Who wants to try to compile a kernel that does this now?
Did u ask him when the next update is coming out.
is that an official IRC channel? with people that actually work on it or what?
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is that an official IRC channel? with people that actually work on it or what?
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Yes it is, and Romain Guy works for Google.
I wondered what happened to all that memory! I still don't understand why 2 1 is taking so much.
Wonder if that will correct the slight and infrequent animation studdering people sometimes see when moving between home screens and scrolling.
That is awesome, I was so happy to have 512 mb RAM it sucks to hear they dont use half of it, glad to hear they plan to fix that. So this thing is going to be even smoother? Also, we are talking about an official ota from google correct? I wonder why they released it with the limitation...
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so we are talking about an official ota from google? I wonder why they released it with the limitation...
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This is a limitation of the 2.6.29 kernel.
The 2.6.32 kernel fixes this issue, but I guess they haven't worked out all the bugs yet.
dwang said:
This is a limitation of the 2.6.29 kernel.
The 2.6.32 kernel fixes this issue, but I guess they haven't worked out all the bugs yet.
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That explains why Cyanogen thought 2.6.32 flew compared to 2.6.29...
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This is a quick blurb that will make a lot of people happy. Remember the ramhack for the G1? Well, the Nexus One only has 218MB memory available to Linux, despite having a whopping 512MB total. Even the Motorola Droid, with 256MB total, has more RAM available to Linux! I asked about this, and romainguy explained on the Android IRC channel:
There we go. A "memhack" kernel update in the next Nexus One OTA should give us an additional 100-150MB RAM. Who wants to try to compile a kernel that does this now?
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Is this like the PS3 where, at launch, they reserved more ram for its OS. Then they released more back to apps (games) with firmware updates Anyway, good news to everyone!
Is this the correct chat room?
http://irc2go.com/pjirc/?net=freenode&room=android
So is there an eta of this official patch from google?
well, what we do want the RAM for, yah for the OS than APPS but whats the deference between the OS and APPs ? well it is complicated as every APP will be running inside a VM made and managed by the OS
What I think : it doesn't matter, we want a good working OS that's fast and nice not free RAM ,that's just there not to be used for any good. If they at Google change it let them do that!
more RAM = less often apps have to be killed to make space for newly launched apps = less processing killing those apps and also more apps stored on memory for quick on-demand launch.
Paul22000 said:
Is this the correct chat room?
http://irc2go.com/pjirc/?net=freenode&room=android
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yes that is it.
Romain_Guy told me there is no ETA for the update but it is going to be included in the next update, whenever that may be. Hopefully not too long !
hope they fix a few other things aswell, i love the phone but there are a few aggravating software issues.
bump for awareness man..
so looking forward to the next patch
Another awareness bump.
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Another awareness bump.
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Really?
It's a pasted irc log, not breast cancer; people don't need to be aware of it.
jsoverson said:
Really?
It's a pasted irc log, not breast cancer; people don't need to be aware of it.
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agreed. How is anyone going to be affected by knowing this?
Hi Guys,
Looking to buy a new HD2, just wondering that whether they still carry the hidden RAM? Has anyone brought one recently?
Yes, all HD2s have 576MB of RAM as long as you have the right ROM and radio.
Moandal said:
Yes, all HD2s have 576MB of RAM as long as you have the right ROM and radio.
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That's not correct.
The PRO THREE's (Prototype HD2's) have 320/340mb RAM.
LEO 1.5 (TMOUS) have 1024MB RAM.
xmoo said:
That's not correct.
The PRO THREE's (Prototype HD2's) have 320/340mb RAM.
LEO 1.5 (TMOUS) have 1024MB RAM.
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tmobile us have only 576 not 1024
hoss_n2 said:
tmobile us have only 576 not 1024
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Ooh sorry I ment ROM. My bad.
But pro three has 320
xmoo said:
Ooh sorry I ment ROM. My bad.
But pro three has 320
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but the eu version has the same ram as tmo us right or not
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but the eu version has the same ram as tmo us right or not
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Yep, just not out of the box. You need the right combination of rom and radio to unlock the extra ram and bring it to 576mb from the default of 448mb if I'm not mistaken..
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Ooh sorry I ment ROM. My bad.
But pro three has 320
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Since the OP started "Looking to buy a new HD2...", exactly how are the original prototypes relevant to the thread?
Moandal said:
Since the OP started "Looking to buy a new HD2...", exactly how are the original prototypes relevant to the thread?
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He was answering this incorrect comment...
Moandal said:
Yes, all HD2s have 576MB of RAM as long as you have the right ROM and radio.
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which you can see if you click the little arrow next to the quoted person's name (your name) (it takes you to the original quote).
Anyone know why they disabled it?
Is there a rom out there that only enabled the 576mb, and nothing else?
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He was answering this incorrect comment...
which you can see if you click the little arrow next to the quoted person's name (your name) (it takes you to the original quote).
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But it's absolutely correct because it's an answer to the OP, which clearly relates only to new HD2s. Maybe you missed that.
But only new US HD2 have 576MB RAM out the box, all other retail HD2s (not the pre-release) need to the right radio/ROM
So in a nutshell, all new retail HD2s have the RAM but only the US one is activated out the box
please help... on my phone it says total storage capacity 181.47... and total program memory 336.93... how's that... i bought the phone from orange romania... and this is after a hard reset... although in the about page it says... 448 RAM and 512 ROM...
anyone?
ccezar2004 said:
please help... on my phone it says total storage capacity 181.47... and total program memory 336.93... how's that... i bought the phone from orange romania... and this is after a hard reset... although in the about page it says... 448 RAM and 512 ROM...
anyone?
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512 rom - minus the space the rom and the radio take up, also minus thee space the rom uses when it installs after a flash.takes about 250-350 meg which leaves you around 200 meg storage space.
448 ram - minus 128 meg for graphics =320 meg program memory.
your figures are exactly what a stock hd2 should show.
bkar89 said:
Anyone know why they disabled it?
Is there a rom out there that only enabled the 576mb, and nothing else?
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bump on this
kom igen måste få det upplåst
come on need it to get unlocked
samsamuel said:
512 rom - minus the space the rom and the radio take up, also minus thee space the rom uses when it installs after a flash.takes about 250-350 meg which leaves you around 200 meg storage space.
448 ram - minus 128 meg for graphics =320 meg program memory.
your figures are exactly what a stock hd2 should show.
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thanks... it's a relief... i saw cooked roms with much more free memory and i thought it was something wrong with my hd2 due to the fact that was bought from an operator
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Anyone know why they disabled it?
Is there a rom out there that only enabled the 576mb, and nothing else?
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use the original tmobile us ship rom it is stock and enabls it
hoss_n2 said:
use the original tmobile us ship rom it is stock and enabls it
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but only when using a 2.06 or higher radio that has .50. in the version and not .51.
Do NOT flash that rom from sd card.
Hi, All
Don't you think it would be sweet, if there was Radio released like the HD2 Update that unlocked 64MB Extra memory for the Nexus One.
The comparison with the Desire would be finished.
JAW$
It would be nice, but it's already so fast I don't think it would make a difference for the majority of Nexus One users.
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It would be nice, but it's already so fast I don't think it would make a difference for the majority of Nexus One users.
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But the comparison question would more or less finish
JAW$ said:
If this was to happen, there would be no comparison with the Desire.
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There already isn't.
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JAW$ said:
Hi, All
Don't you think it would be sweet, if there was Radio released like the HD2 Update that unlocked 64MB Extra memory for the Nexus One.
The comparison with the Desire would be finished.
JAW$
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Dont understand why you need it. Just looked at my phone with 19 processes running and 200 Mb avail. At any given time I never have less than 100Mb free mem. Does the Sense UI use more memory? Is that why you think we need more?
setzer715 said:
Dont understand why you need it. Just looked at my phone with 19 processes running and 200 Mb avail. At any given time I never have less than 100Mb free mem. Does the Sense UI use more memory? Is that why you think we need more?
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I know that, but still will change the mind of future buyers
I find it funny this is coming from someone running the stock rom which means he's not getting all the ram there regardless...but hey, that's just me
TFJ4 said:
I find it funny this is coming from someone running the stock rom which means he's not getting all the ram there regardless...but hey, that's just me
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Yeah, this thread is kinda silly...
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Yeah, this thread is kinda silly...
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Just Making small talk
setzer715 said:
Dont understand why you need it. Just looked at my phone with 19 processes running and 200 Mb avail. At any given time I never have less than 100Mb free mem. Does the Sense UI use more memory? Is that why you think we need more?
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Sense UI doesn't use much more I usually have 100MB to 200MB free with Sense UI. Also my phone feels much smoother with Sense UI rather than stock. On top of all that, we don't even have all our 512MB unlocked. I think its like 395MB.
This whole time I have been researching the HD2, I have always heard it having about 500+mb ram...now when I went and checked on the Tmobile site it says 1gb of ram...here (I was comparing it to the touch pro 2)...
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...426-a830-49bb-aa7c-d47156399047&manufacturer=
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Screen shots attached...first is a zoomed out view so you can see it all at once...the second is a zoomed in view of the top half, the third is the bottom half zoomed in...
I hope this is true ? but Idk why I dont really believe it yet??...any ideas?
the american version of the hd2 will have more RAM and ROM
These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.
kilrah said:
These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.
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Yea, that's definately true!
But people always say bigger is better
Big phone
Big delay
Big bug
Big error
Is it better? No it isn't!!
yeah even on the htc website it says it will have 1gb of ROM and 5_ _ mb of RAM.... hey I know you say 1gb of ram would be useless, but for the same price -why would you argue with that ? haha....but yeah can we say 'false advertisement' here?.... I am sure there is a complaint to be made, for those of us who already knew it was fake from the beginning it would not be a surprise when we get our hd2 and do not see 1gb of ram...but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....
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but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....
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Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is
kilrah said:
Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is
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This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."
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This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."
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loooooooool
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loooooooool
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Current ( European ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-512 ROM
T-mobile ( USA ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-1024 ROM
Isn't it 574 ram on both versions?
yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount
Yep, but why do they loose stability with more ram?
Loose stability??? I see no difference between cooked rom (576MB RAM) and official 1.66 WWE (448MB RAM).
it probably looses stability in a case of when an application over ranges ram so if there is a block of ram reserved then it may be used for those instances ? I am not sure just trying to think why it would be that way....
Just open lots of apps to fill RAM and again ad again. Nothing happends. Where did U read about instability with 576MB unlocked?
that is not what I was talking about, (opening a bunch of apps)... that does not mean it will over range the ram...
you may be familiar with programming and in such if you say go out of bounds on an array -it will cause some sorts of errors.... This is the type of situation I mean when I said over ranging ram, except it may come in a different form, but when a program basically tries to access more ram than it is allowed or tries to access ram which is non existent then it would normally cause an error....
all in all it is just an example, and I was just trying to think logically of why they would not allow all of the RAM to be unlocked in stock ROMS ...
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yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount
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not on the US version, 576MB stock
chaoscentral said:
not on the US version, 576MB stock
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I concur, I am actually using one right now and in hardware specs it shows the 576mb RAM, 1024mb ROM, and of course the sick 1024mhz processor
as a result of the U.S. version having more ram and rom, its a little bigger..