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I dont know what do i own, elf or elfin ?

my device identity model no. is elf0100, my ram is 128 mb , and my rom is 256 mb.
can anyone help me out wether its an elfin or an elf ?

256mb ram?
You are using an elfin!

It should be an Elfin

jeremy89632 said:
256mb ram?
You are using an elfin!
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Do you mean ram or rom...? Common typo, the letters are like right next to each other... Hehe...
But yeah, I'd definitely agree, that's an Elfin.. I thought mine was when I ordered it, but (for Sharic's information) the standard Elf has 64MB RAM and 128MB ROM, the Elfin has 128MB and 256MB respectively.

yeah, definitely an elfin..before i bought my elf, i am eager to own an elfin..unfortunately, it was hard to find 2nd hand elfin in my country so i have to settle with elf..i like elfin so much, because of its 128 ram and 256 rom..my elf always ran out of storage and program memory since i like to install many programs and do multitasking..
(seems like i'm out of topic..haha..just to express my frustration of not getting an elfin)

ZaLiTH said:
Do you mean ram or rom...? Common typo, the letters are like right next to each other... Hehe...
But yeah, I'd definitely agree, that's an Elfin.. I thought mine was when I ordered it, but (for Sharic's information) the standard Elf has 64MB RAM and 128MB ROM, the Elfin has 128MB and 256MB respectively.
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Alright, My Bad
Cheers!

[GER] Roms with 576 MB RAM enabled: Overview!

In cause of the fact, that my most favorite ROM cooker dutty has stopped the 576 RAM tweak for further german/non WWE ROM versions, I will have to look for an alternative.
Please post the name of the ROM with the 576 MB RAM tweak and german OS language, thread link and ROM version for an short overview for other german user; I'll start:
duttythroy: Duttys Leo V1.4 (higher german versions are only offering 448MB again! Only version >1.4 in WWE will support 576 MB RAM.)
anja31: |ROM|TEST|GERMAN only|21889 based on 2.02 xip
pkober: [rom][ger][01/02/10]EPS HD2 21890 576MB enabled [online]
RideTheTube: [ROM][29.01.10][HD2] RTT Shock ROM [XDA_UC][576MB/23518]RC3

For a 21xxx ROM with 576 MB enabled, check Anja´s Next Generation ROM
In her thread, she says "test ROM", but to be clear, that ROM is crazy fast and really stable. Worth giving it a try.
For a 24xxx ROM with 576 MB enabled, check RTT´s Shock ROM
For those who prefer the newer WinMo builds, this is a good choice.
Another 21xxx based ROM with 576 MB enabled is this one from pkoper.
Haven´t tried it yet, but sounds nice in the relevant thread, too.

I've added their ROMs in the first post. Its quite hard to make a decision which ROM will make the run, when you've just used the ROMs from the "big-five" here. You are satisfied with anja31?

My Lost in Asia 24001 has it.

Hi, Anja´s is really good, i use it already.
An here is another one:
[rom][ger][01/02/10]EPS HD2 21890 576MB enabled [online

bobsbbq said:
My Lost in Asia 24001 has it.
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OoHH, you made a german one - let me try it - where to download?
i will release an update today - some bug fixes.

Cupra TDI said:
I've added their ROMs in the first post. Its quite hard to make a decision which ROM will make the run, when you've just used the ROMs from the "big-five" here. You are satisfied with anja31?
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I am using Anja´s ROMs for HD2 since she started making them.
So far, no disappointment at all. Perfect choice.
From time to time, as a flashaholic, I try other ROMs, but I keep coming back to Anja´s ROMs.

What's the point in having 576MB RAM when you can't even fill 448MB?

576 MB are there, so I want to have them, too!

Cupra TDI said:
576 MB are there, so I want to have them, too!
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Don't you think Dutty had a reason to remove the hack? Maybe he discovered stability issues because of it. Do you really think a bit more RAM that you will never use anyway is worth potential stability problems?
I really don't get why everyone jumps on that hack, without thinking about consequences.

As I read he wants to continue the development with the hack in the WWE versions. And I think thats the most downloaded version.
I don't know his reasons for that step, but maybe he was stopping it for other languages just for too much work?! He was and still keeps always my most favorite ROM cooker. His v1.4 GER with the hack is running very well on my HD2.

freyberry said:
Don't you think Dutty had a reason to remove the hack? Maybe he discovered stability issues because of it. Do you really think a bit more RAM that you will never use anyway is worth potential stability problems?
I really don't get why everyone jumps on that hack, without thinking about consequences.
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sorry - look @ duttys free data memory and you know why he is gone back to 448 mb

anja31 said:
sorry - look @ duttys free data memory and you know why he is gone back to 448 mb
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What does this have to do with free data memory? Sorry if I'm missing something...
I tried the hack and while it did work, it was definitely the reason why I could not restore my SPB backups anymore. Now you can say, it's a new ROM, so it may happen that you can't restore a backup. But the reason definitely was that I enabled the RAM and who knows what other problems it causes?
If you could actually use the additional RAM, I'd agree to enable it. But with normal use (even when running three navigation programs and other stuff at the same time), it's impossible to fill the 448MB RAM, so I really don't see a point in enabling 576MB.

anja31 said:
sorry - look @ duttys free data memory and you know why he is gone back to 448 mb
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free data memory = Programmspeicher aka Program in WWE?
Total: 457.15
In use: 150.55
Free: 306.60
But that can't be the RAM, because the hardware informations are showing 576MB. How do you check the free RAM?

Cupra TDI said:
free data memory = Programmspeicher aka Program in WWE?
Total: 457.15
In use: 150.55
Free: 306.60
But that can't be the RAM, because the hardware informations are showing 576MB. How do you check the free RAM?
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That is the RAM. Some of it is taken by the system and not shown.
but data memory = Datenspeicher = ROM

Cupra TDI said:
free data memory = Programmspeicher aka Program in WWE?
Total: 457.15
In use: 150.55
Free: 306.60
But that can't be the RAM, because the hardware informations are showing 576MB. How do you check the free RAM?
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sorry - maybe my fault - i mean "Datenspeicher" not "Programmspeicher"
he lost to much of the Datenpeicher, but anyway Duttys rom is fantastic.

That's because of the HTC debug tools in the 2.02 OEMDrivers. I deleted them and only lost about 2MB of storage, which is not a big deal.
But I'm still not convinced why I should enable the RAM when it's pretty much impossible to use it.

Well its all good as long as HTC are convinced.
The wording "RAM hack" may be a bit misleading. The 2.02 test rom from htc has this "feature" included. So its not really a hack.
What does this have to do with free data memory? Sorry if I'm missing something...
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Ram and rom are on one chip. Kind of like back in WM 2003 times where you could allocate on the fly.
So making one larger will reduce the other.
Meaning that if you have a "large" rom you will not be left with much "Datenspeicher".

freyberry said:
Don't you think Dutty had a reason to remove the hack? Maybe he discovered stability issues because of it. Do you really think a bit more RAM that you will never use anyway is worth potential stability problems?
I really don't get why everyone jumps on that hack, without thinking about consequences.
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|FEB 03||WWE||Duttys Leo Sense 2.5 HG V.06|Base 2.02|576 RAM||5.2.23519.5.5||ONLINE||
Maybe...

HD2, 1GB of RAM?? HuH!?!?

This whole time I have been researching the HD2, I have always heard it having about 500+mb ram...now when I went and checked on the Tmobile site it says 1gb of ram...here (I was comparing it to the touch pro 2)...
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...426-a830-49bb-aa7c-d47156399047&manufacturer=
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Screen shots attached...first is a zoomed out view so you can see it all at once...the second is a zoomed in view of the top half, the third is the bottom half zoomed in...
I hope this is true ? but Idk why I dont really believe it yet??...any ideas?

the american version of the hd2 will have more RAM and ROM

These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.

kilrah said:
These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.
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Yea, that's definately true!
But people always say bigger is better

Big phone
Big delay
Big bug
Big error
Is it better? No it isn't!!

yeah even on the htc website it says it will have 1gb of ROM and 5_ _ mb of RAM.... hey I know you say 1gb of ram would be useless, but for the same price -why would you argue with that ? haha....but yeah can we say 'false advertisement' here?.... I am sure there is a complaint to be made, for those of us who already knew it was fake from the beginning it would not be a surprise when we get our hd2 and do not see 1gb of ram...but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....

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but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....
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Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is

kilrah said:
Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is
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This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."

rickyoon.vegas said:
This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."
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loooooooool

hoss_n2 said:
loooooooool
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Current ( European ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-512 ROM
T-mobile ( USA ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-1024 ROM

Isn't it 574 ram on both versions?

yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount

Yep, but why do they loose stability with more ram?

Loose stability??? I see no difference between cooked rom (576MB RAM) and official 1.66 WWE (448MB RAM).

it probably looses stability in a case of when an application over ranges ram so if there is a block of ram reserved then it may be used for those instances ? I am not sure just trying to think why it would be that way....

Just open lots of apps to fill RAM and again ad again. Nothing happends. Where did U read about instability with 576MB unlocked?

that is not what I was talking about, (opening a bunch of apps)... that does not mean it will over range the ram...
you may be familiar with programming and in such if you say go out of bounds on an array -it will cause some sorts of errors.... This is the type of situation I mean when I said over ranging ram, except it may come in a different form, but when a program basically tries to access more ram than it is allowed or tries to access ram which is non existent then it would normally cause an error....
all in all it is just an example, and I was just trying to think logically of why they would not allow all of the RAM to be unlocked in stock ROMS ...

davidcampbell said:
yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount
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not on the US version, 576MB stock

chaoscentral said:
not on the US version, 576MB stock
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I concur, I am actually using one right now and in hardware specs it shows the 576mb RAM, 1024mb ROM, and of course the sick 1024mhz processor

as a result of the U.S. version having more ram and rom, its a little bigger..

us hd2 or hd2?

hello. i am currently a xperia x1 user but i am seriously considering to buy a htc touch hd2. however i can't decide between an unlocked tmobile (us) hd2 or hd2 apparently the us hd2 has 1gb rom and 576mb ram. i have read somewhere that the 'xtra 128mb hidden' ram can be unlock in the hd2 when flashed to custom rom i just want to confirm this and what you think guys which one the 2 you advice me to buy? its a hard decision for me. thanks!

shak7i said:
hello. i am currently a xperia x1 user but i am seriously considering to buy a htc touch hd2. however i can't decide between an unlocked tmobile (us) hd2 or hd2 apparently the us hd2 has 1gb rom and 576mb ram. i have read somewhere that the 'xtra 128mb hidden' ram can be unlock in the hd2 when flashed to custom rom i just want to confirm this and what you think guys which one the 2 you advice me to buy? its a hard decision for me. thanks!
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it depends on your location as tmobile does not work 3g only on t mobile us ,and about the ram it is true both have same ram amount

flame me if you want for the complete noob question but if the us hd2 has 1gb ROM how much does the european hd2 have?

ricey1986 said:
flame me if you want for the complete noob question but if the us hd2 has 1gb ROM how much does the european hd2 have?
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512 mb of rom but both have 576 mb of ram

i have seen a couple of unboxing videos o us hd2. they say 1g rom 1g ram. not sure abt the ram but the rom thng is what matters. believe me ull need every mb in that rom. only problem with my hd2 is that i always have to look out for not running out of space. its hilariously frustrating. go for the US one.

russeini said:
i have seen a couple of unboxing videos o us hd2. they say 1g rom 1g ram. not sure abt the ram but the rom thng is what matters. believe me ull need every mb in that rom. only problem with my hd2 is that i always have to look out for not running out of space. its hilariously frustrating. go for the US one.
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It's not like an iPhone - there's a slot under the back cover where you can put your own storage cards in. I've got 16GB in mine and I've had it for nearly 5 months and still have lots of space left on both the SD card and the phone memory!

forgot to mention that although u have 512 mb rom on the non us hd2, with the preinstalled system nd software on it, u start with only approx 140 mb of free space! now if u thnk thts enough, just try it.

russeini said:
forgot to mention that although u have 512 mb rom on the non us hd2, with the preinstalled system nd software on it, u start with only approx 140 mb of free space! now if u thnk thts enough, just try it.
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Oh that's plenty. You just need to use common sense when installing things that don't need to be on the phone memory. That's difficult for some, and they don't understand so blame "low memory" problems, despite the fact that it's normal for WM devices and has been for years.
Also, with the ability to do what I want to my phone, unlike some other popular devices on the market, I can remove things that I don't want and get lots more than 140MB free on my device.
It's really up to you and your own personal capabilities and understanding as to what you do with it, just like most devices.

hoss_n2 said:
it depends on your location as tmobile does not work 3g only on t mobile us ,and about the ram it is true both have same ram amount
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so you mean even if the us hd2 is unlocked the 3g won't work in other countries?
btw thanks for your replies guys

shak7i said:
so you mean even if the us hd2 is unlocked the 3g won't work in other countries?
btw thanks for your replies guys
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No it won't, they use different frequencies to pretty much every other network on the planet.

rp-x1 said:
No it won't, they use different frequencies to pretty much every other network on the planet.
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hmmm....so im buying the hd2 on the coming month. thanx!!

rp-x1 said:
No it won't, they use different frequencies to pretty much every other network on the planet.
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HD2 US and HD2 non US are all WCDMA [2100MHZ]
you sure the arent work each?

684 .44 mb system memory on the t mobile hd2

i went over to the t mobile store this morning to play with the hd2 they have in display and the system memory on the device its alottttt 684.44 mb how can that be, i only have 227 mb , is it because of the rom i have? if so its there a rom that can give me that amount of system memoy??????

I'm pretty sure it depends on how many applications your have installed. Mine had about 700 stock i believe so delete some stuff if you want more room.

zstjohn said:
I'm pretty sure it depends on how many applications your have installed. Mine had about 700 stock i believe so delete some stuff if you want more room.
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delete what apps i dont have any, i dont even have google maps or windows live installed........... and the t mobile hd2 had a bounch of apps installed more then i do thats for sure .

gilbert11231123 said:
delete what apps i dont have any, i dont even have google maps or windos live installed........... and the t mobile hd2 had a bounch of apps installed more then i do thats for sure .
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Not sure then. sorry

zstjohn said:
Not sure then. sorry
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thx for your help , maybe somebody has an answer to my question...

gilbert11231123 said:
i went over to the t mobile store this morning to play with the hd2 they have in display and the system memory on the device its alottttt 684.44 mb how can that be, i only have 227 mb , is it because of the rom i have? if so its there a rom that can give me that amount of system memoy??????
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you don't have a t mobile us phone. you have one with 512 rom, of which around 250 meg gets taken up with windows mobile etcetera.
the one you looked sat in the shop has 1024 meg rom, with 300 meg used for win mobile.

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you don't have a t mobile us phone. you have one with 512 rom, of which around 250 meg gets taken up with windows mobile etcetera.
the one you looked sat in the shop has 1024 meg rom, with 300 meg used for win mobile.
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ok so then the t mobile hd2 is better then my model from europe because it has more ram .... how did that happend ??????

because t mobile cut a deal with HTC for their own model. (and it has more ROM not ram)

samsamuel said:
because t mobile cut a deal with HTC for their own model. (and it has more ROM not ram)
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yeah sorry more rom , i love my hd2 ,,but i have run out of memoy space before if i get the t mobile model would i b able to do the same stuff that i do with mine ?

gilbert11231123 said:
yeah sorry more rom , i love my hd2 ,,but i have run out of memoy space before if i get the t mobile model would i b able to do the same stuff that i do with mine ?
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yes, sure, same phone just more rom.

samsamuel said:
yes, sure, same phone just more rom.
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thx alot sam for your time to answer my question just one more , should i better wait for the hd3 instead ?

gilbert11231123 said:
thx alot sam for your time to answer my question just one more , should i better wait for the hd3 instead ?
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lol, thats up to you.
Just one thing, if you do get a tmo us, it has different 3g bands to the euro one.
The european one will do 3g on at&t but not T Mo US network.

One thing to note
Some ROMS that will actually run properly (and fairly well at first) on a T-Mobile US HD2, will actually incorrectly report the size of the ROM available. For instance, Smaberg's Touch X-Treme runs on the T-Mobile US HD2, but only reports just over 200 MB of ROM/Storage memory.
Just as an FYI. Some ROMS built for European HD2s will only show what they expect to find on an European HD2, even if they do install. I have to say, I love having all that storage capacity.

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lol, thats up to you.
Just one thing, if you do get a tmo us, it has different 3g bands to the euro one.
The european one will do 3g on at&t but not T Mo US network.
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thx for the heads up .