hello. i am currently a xperia x1 user but i am seriously considering to buy a htc touch hd2. however i can't decide between an unlocked tmobile (us) hd2 or hd2 apparently the us hd2 has 1gb rom and 576mb ram. i have read somewhere that the 'xtra 128mb hidden' ram can be unlock in the hd2 when flashed to custom rom i just want to confirm this and what you think guys which one the 2 you advice me to buy? its a hard decision for me. thanks!
shak7i said:
hello. i am currently a xperia x1 user but i am seriously considering to buy a htc touch hd2. however i can't decide between an unlocked tmobile (us) hd2 or hd2 apparently the us hd2 has 1gb rom and 576mb ram. i have read somewhere that the 'xtra 128mb hidden' ram can be unlock in the hd2 when flashed to custom rom i just want to confirm this and what you think guys which one the 2 you advice me to buy? its a hard decision for me. thanks!
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it depends on your location as tmobile does not work 3g only on t mobile us ,and about the ram it is true both have same ram amount
flame me if you want for the complete noob question but if the us hd2 has 1gb ROM how much does the european hd2 have?
ricey1986 said:
flame me if you want for the complete noob question but if the us hd2 has 1gb ROM how much does the european hd2 have?
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512 mb of rom but both have 576 mb of ram
i have seen a couple of unboxing videos o us hd2. they say 1g rom 1g ram. not sure abt the ram but the rom thng is what matters. believe me ull need every mb in that rom. only problem with my hd2 is that i always have to look out for not running out of space. its hilariously frustrating. go for the US one.
russeini said:
i have seen a couple of unboxing videos o us hd2. they say 1g rom 1g ram. not sure abt the ram but the rom thng is what matters. believe me ull need every mb in that rom. only problem with my hd2 is that i always have to look out for not running out of space. its hilariously frustrating. go for the US one.
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It's not like an iPhone - there's a slot under the back cover where you can put your own storage cards in. I've got 16GB in mine and I've had it for nearly 5 months and still have lots of space left on both the SD card and the phone memory!
forgot to mention that although u have 512 mb rom on the non us hd2, with the preinstalled system nd software on it, u start with only approx 140 mb of free space! now if u thnk thts enough, just try it.
russeini said:
forgot to mention that although u have 512 mb rom on the non us hd2, with the preinstalled system nd software on it, u start with only approx 140 mb of free space! now if u thnk thts enough, just try it.
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Oh that's plenty. You just need to use common sense when installing things that don't need to be on the phone memory. That's difficult for some, and they don't understand so blame "low memory" problems, despite the fact that it's normal for WM devices and has been for years.
Also, with the ability to do what I want to my phone, unlike some other popular devices on the market, I can remove things that I don't want and get lots more than 140MB free on my device.
It's really up to you and your own personal capabilities and understanding as to what you do with it, just like most devices.
hoss_n2 said:
it depends on your location as tmobile does not work 3g only on t mobile us ,and about the ram it is true both have same ram amount
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so you mean even if the us hd2 is unlocked the 3g won't work in other countries?
btw thanks for your replies guys
shak7i said:
so you mean even if the us hd2 is unlocked the 3g won't work in other countries?
btw thanks for your replies guys
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No it won't, they use different frequencies to pretty much every other network on the planet.
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No it won't, they use different frequencies to pretty much every other network on the planet.
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hmmm....so im buying the hd2 on the coming month. thanx!!
rp-x1 said:
No it won't, they use different frequencies to pretty much every other network on the planet.
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HD2 US and HD2 non US are all WCDMA [2100MHZ]
you sure the arent work each?
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I posted the message to them, and this was their reply:
"Dear Mr. Koop, Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center.
Your questions and suggestions are important to us and we do all that we can to provide you with an excellent service.
You recently wrote us about an issue with your HTC HD2.
The US HD2 devices that have more memory are T-mobile branded devices.
T-mobile has chosen to upgrade the devices with more memory.
This is not an option HTC is providing. Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Best regards, Ginette P HTC"
I wonder how easy/hard it would be to do the same to ours???
Old news. but thanks for sharing.
This isn't true and they know.
As you see, the extra RAM can be unlocked on the European HTC HD2.
kholk said:
This isn't true and they know.
As you see, the extra RAM can be unlocked on the European HTC HD2.
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Well, there are two kinds of memory, yes? Read Only Memory, and Random-access Memory. The T-Mobile Hd2 Internal Memory: ROM 1GB; RAM 576MB.
So, technically I do not think you can accuse HTC of being not factual in their reply. As far as I am aware, the search for 1GB of ROM on the European and Asian HD2 has not been successful.
I have seen nothing that has proven to me that the HTC branded HD2s have 1GB ROM.
rlydiard said:
Well, there are two kinds of memory, yes? Read Only Memory, and Random-access Memory. The T-Mobile Hd2 Internal Memory: ROM 1GB; RAM 576MB.
So, technically I do not think you can accuse HTC of being not factual in their reply. As far as I am aware, the search for 1GB of ROM on the European and Asian HD2 has not been successful.
I have seen nothing that has proven to me that the HTC branded HD2s have 1GB ROM.
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*confuzed*... So, the European HD2 DOES have 576MB RAM, rite? Is there an easy way (as in, not flashing a new ROM... Quite happy with my T-Mobile ROM...) to enable this?
It's nice that you guys are so envious of us in the US, who have yet to even get the HD2..
skoop99 said:
*confuzed*... So, the European HD2 DOES have 576MB RAM, rite? Is there an easy way (as in, not flashing a new ROM... Quite happy with my T-Mobile ROM...) to enable this?
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You have to flash a different radio. Searching XDA-Developers will give you plenty of answers.
aceo07 said:
It's nice that you guys are so envious of us in the US, who have yet to even get the HD2..
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Do a search on some of the threads concerning reactions to the T-Mobile HD2 specs. The posts can be quite amusing and infuriating to read. Some of us who state that you got what you paid for have been unpopular on some of these threads.
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You have to flash a different radio. Searching XDA-Developers will give you plenty of answers.
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You have to flash both a ROM AND a radio that supports this. It will not work with any official ROM that's been released so far.
X1-owner said:
You have to flash both a ROM AND a radio that supports this. It will not work any official that's been released so far.
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Thanks for correcting my omission. It is way past my bed time and the old brain is really shutting down.
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Do a search on some of the threads concerning reactions to the T-Mobile HD2 specs. The posts can be quite amusing and infuriating to read. Some of us who state that you got what you paid for have been unpopular on some of these threads.
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I'm hoping for these posts to entertain me until I finally have the US HD2 in my hands.. with MORE RAM/ROM or RAMAROM or ROMARAM.
Then by the end of the year, there'll be posts about the US not getting the HD3 while everybody gets it..
SIM Looked as well?
X1-owner said:
You have to flash both a ROM AND a radio that supports this. It will not work with any official ROM that's been released so far.
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Can I flash my Asian HD2 with a TMUS 2.02 ROM and use a European Sim, or will it then be looked to T-Mobile sim's?
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I'm hoping for these posts to entertain me until I finally have the US HD2 in my hands.. with MORE RAM/ROM or RAMAROM or ROMARAM.
Then by the end of the year, there'll be posts about the US not getting the HD3 while everybody gets it..
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Yup, and so goes the lives of gluttonous geeks, once cycle after another. It is just too bad that some people get their knickers all tied up in a knot when they think they do not have the very best and the latest.
No This can not be done.
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Can I flash my Asian HD2 with a TMUS 2.02 ROM and use a European Sim, or will it then be looked to T-Mobile sim's?
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I JUST TRIED TO FLASH WITH THE 2.02 ROM, It is loocked to the vendor, and says that my is incorect vendor version.
mpscuba68 said:
I JUST TRIED TO FLASH WITH THE 2.02 ROM, It is loocked to the vendor, and says that my is incorect vendor version.
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changing rom is totally un connected to the sim being network locked, so as you found out changing rom does not unlock the phone.
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Thanks for correcting my omission. It is way past my bed time and the old brain is really shutting down.
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Bugger... Would like the extra RAM, but I really don't NEED a different ROM... :-(
Ah well... Hard Reset & ROM flash imminent, I guess... *MUTTER*...
skoop99 said:
Bugger... Would like the extra RAM, but I really don't NEED a different ROM... :-(
Ah well... Hard Reset & ROM flash imminent, I guess... *MUTTER*...
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Unless you are intent on running many memory heavy apps at the same time, the extra RAM is pretty much unnecessary.
I run lots of programs- many of them quite heavy on RAM, but usually close one before opening another, and I've never run below 100MB free RAM, even with iGO8 running minimised.
Now, the ROM is a different matter- but little chance we will see any more without serious pruning to the ROM itself.
So if you're happy with the ROM you are on, stick with it!
This whole time I have been researching the HD2, I have always heard it having about 500+mb ram...now when I went and checked on the Tmobile site it says 1gb of ram...here (I was comparing it to the touch pro 2)...
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...426-a830-49bb-aa7c-d47156399047&manufacturer=
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Screen shots attached...first is a zoomed out view so you can see it all at once...the second is a zoomed in view of the top half, the third is the bottom half zoomed in...
I hope this is true ? but Idk why I dont really believe it yet??...any ideas?
the american version of the hd2 will have more RAM and ROM
These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.
kilrah said:
These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.
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Yea, that's definately true!
But people always say bigger is better
Big phone
Big delay
Big bug
Big error
Is it better? No it isn't!!
yeah even on the htc website it says it will have 1gb of ROM and 5_ _ mb of RAM.... hey I know you say 1gb of ram would be useless, but for the same price -why would you argue with that ? haha....but yeah can we say 'false advertisement' here?.... I am sure there is a complaint to be made, for those of us who already knew it was fake from the beginning it would not be a surprise when we get our hd2 and do not see 1gb of ram...but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....
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but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....
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Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is
kilrah said:
Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is
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This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."
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This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."
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loooooooool
hoss_n2 said:
loooooooool
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Current ( European ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-512 ROM
T-mobile ( USA ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-1024 ROM
Isn't it 574 ram on both versions?
yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount
Yep, but why do they loose stability with more ram?
Loose stability??? I see no difference between cooked rom (576MB RAM) and official 1.66 WWE (448MB RAM).
it probably looses stability in a case of when an application over ranges ram so if there is a block of ram reserved then it may be used for those instances ? I am not sure just trying to think why it would be that way....
Just open lots of apps to fill RAM and again ad again. Nothing happends. Where did U read about instability with 576MB unlocked?
that is not what I was talking about, (opening a bunch of apps)... that does not mean it will over range the ram...
you may be familiar with programming and in such if you say go out of bounds on an array -it will cause some sorts of errors.... This is the type of situation I mean when I said over ranging ram, except it may come in a different form, but when a program basically tries to access more ram than it is allowed or tries to access ram which is non existent then it would normally cause an error....
all in all it is just an example, and I was just trying to think logically of why they would not allow all of the RAM to be unlocked in stock ROMS ...
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yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount
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not on the US version, 576MB stock
chaoscentral said:
not on the US version, 576MB stock
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I concur, I am actually using one right now and in hardware specs it shows the 576mb RAM, 1024mb ROM, and of course the sick 1024mhz processor
as a result of the U.S. version having more ram and rom, its a little bigger..
i went over to the t mobile store this morning to play with the hd2 they have in display and the system memory on the device its alottttt 684.44 mb how can that be, i only have 227 mb , is it because of the rom i have? if so its there a rom that can give me that amount of system memoy??????
I'm pretty sure it depends on how many applications your have installed. Mine had about 700 stock i believe so delete some stuff if you want more room.
zstjohn said:
I'm pretty sure it depends on how many applications your have installed. Mine had about 700 stock i believe so delete some stuff if you want more room.
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delete what apps i dont have any, i dont even have google maps or windows live installed........... and the t mobile hd2 had a bounch of apps installed more then i do thats for sure .
gilbert11231123 said:
delete what apps i dont have any, i dont even have google maps or windos live installed........... and the t mobile hd2 had a bounch of apps installed more then i do thats for sure .
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Not sure then. sorry
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Not sure then. sorry
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thx for your help , maybe somebody has an answer to my question...
gilbert11231123 said:
i went over to the t mobile store this morning to play with the hd2 they have in display and the system memory on the device its alottttt 684.44 mb how can that be, i only have 227 mb , is it because of the rom i have? if so its there a rom that can give me that amount of system memoy??????
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you don't have a t mobile us phone. you have one with 512 rom, of which around 250 meg gets taken up with windows mobile etcetera.
the one you looked sat in the shop has 1024 meg rom, with 300 meg used for win mobile.
samsamuel said:
you don't have a t mobile us phone. you have one with 512 rom, of which around 250 meg gets taken up with windows mobile etcetera.
the one you looked sat in the shop has 1024 meg rom, with 300 meg used for win mobile.
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ok so then the t mobile hd2 is better then my model from europe because it has more ram .... how did that happend ??????
because t mobile cut a deal with HTC for their own model. (and it has more ROM not ram)
samsamuel said:
because t mobile cut a deal with HTC for their own model. (and it has more ROM not ram)
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yeah sorry more rom , i love my hd2 ,,but i have run out of memoy space before if i get the t mobile model would i b able to do the same stuff that i do with mine ?
gilbert11231123 said:
yeah sorry more rom , i love my hd2 ,,but i have run out of memoy space before if i get the t mobile model would i b able to do the same stuff that i do with mine ?
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yes, sure, same phone just more rom.
samsamuel said:
yes, sure, same phone just more rom.
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thx alot sam for your time to answer my question just one more , should i better wait for the hd3 instead ?
gilbert11231123 said:
thx alot sam for your time to answer my question just one more , should i better wait for the hd3 instead ?
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lol, thats up to you.
Just one thing, if you do get a tmo us, it has different 3g bands to the euro one.
The european one will do 3g on at&t but not T Mo US network.
One thing to note
Some ROMS that will actually run properly (and fairly well at first) on a T-Mobile US HD2, will actually incorrectly report the size of the ROM available. For instance, Smaberg's Touch X-Treme runs on the T-Mobile US HD2, but only reports just over 200 MB of ROM/Storage memory.
Just as an FYI. Some ROMS built for European HD2s will only show what they expect to find on an European HD2, even if they do install. I have to say, I love having all that storage capacity.
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lol, thats up to you.
Just one thing, if you do get a tmo us, it has different 3g bands to the euro one.
The european one will do 3g on at&t but not T Mo US network.
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thx for the heads up .
I got an HTC PRO THREE, the Pre Release version of HTC HD2.
It only has 320MB of RAM, and that's the only difference with the official HD2. I wonder if anyone there who also happens to have this device and unlocked the RAM to 576MB... i have tried the various/required Radios and various cooked and official ROMS and still has 320MB.
Does that mean hardware-wise, the only RAM i got is 320MB?
But i have read somewhere here, that on a certain rom, the HTC PRO THREE displays 340MB which makes a 20MB difference with the pre-released ROM, which seems to me that this HTC PRO THREE, has more than 320MB, since it displays 340MB on a non- pre release ROM.
Thanks in advance for the help.
could you provide a picture of the device?
Martinhdk said:
could you provide a picture of the device?
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Its exactly the same as the HD2 IIRC, just has touch pro 3 on the back casing in yellow.
da_mayhem said:
I got an HTC PRO THREE, the Pre Release version of HTC HD2.
It only has 320MB of RAM, and that's the only difference with the official HD2. I wonder if anyone there who also happens to have this device and unlocked the RAM to 576MB... i have tried the various/required Radios and various cooked and official ROMS and still has 320MB.
Does that mean hardware-wise, the only RAM i got is 320MB?
But i have read somewhere here, that on a certain rom, the HTC PRO THREE displays 340MB which makes a 20MB difference with the pre-released ROM, which seems to me that this HTC PRO THREE, has more than 320MB, since it displays 340MB on a non- pre release ROM.
Thanks in advance for the help.
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this is because it only has 320 mb of ram ,sorry for you but this is the true
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this is because it only has 320 mb of ram ,sorry for you but this is the true
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So there is no chance hacking or unlocking the hidden ram if there's any?
The thing is, someone said that the pre release device was flashed by a certain rom, and was able to display 340mb ram on it, so meaning, if its true, there is more than 320mb of rams on this pre release version of HD2.
I just hope someone will clear this all to me. Thanks for the participation guys!
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So there is no chance hacking or unlocking the hidden ram if there's any?
The thing is, someone said that the pre release device was flashed by a certain rom, and was able to display 340mb ram on it, so meaning, if its true, there is more than 320mb of rams on this pre release version of HD2.
I just hope someone will clear this all to me. Thanks for the participation guys!
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It might be what you said. The T8585 has just one hardware version providing a 576 Mb memory at all. So this fact sounds weird as well as the ROM should have less memory allocation, make sure either you didn't get a damaged device or somebody badly flashed ROM on it or the flash spoiled some hardware parts........
Anyway, try flashing a HSPL (the most updated) on it, get the ROM you like the most from the Web and see how it goes......... Bless you
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It might be what you said. The T8585 has just one hardware version providing a 576 Mb memory at all. So this fact sounds weird as well as the ROM should have less memory allocation, make sure either you didn't get a damaged device or somebody badly flashed ROM on it or the flash spoiled some hardware parts........
Anyway, try flashing a HSPL (the most updated) on it, get the ROM you like the most from the Web and see how it goes......... Bless you
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The HTC PRO THREE has been released with a 320MB RAM and i doubt also if this is defective, as i've seen few users too of this 320MB HD2 version.
Thanks for the tip bro, i did installed HSPL2 and the current Artemis ROM, i didn't even check if that HSPL2 was the latest..i'll try to look at it later. Thanks again!
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hi i was looking at a thred that says hd2 has more memory then 448mb it actually has 576mb i looked at mine at it says in the hardware information i do indeed have 576mb but when i go to the 'about' it says 451mb so do i have 576mb if not is it possible
you already have it. the hardware takes 128 for graphics.
look on a stock rom and it would say 448 in hardware and 320 in storage info
oh great so is that the maximun ram hd2 has or is they more hidden lol is it safe to say the hd2 is prob the most powerfull phone about
brockyneo said:
oh great so is that the maximun ram hd2 has or is they more hidden lol is it safe to say the hd2 is prob the most powerfull phone about
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you won't use all that ram anyway. its damn near impossible to get the leo to use all the stock ram, let alone the extra.
(dont forget, extra ram doesn't make it run faster. a bigger petrol tank doesn't make a car go faster, so you aren't missing out on anything)
lol ok great thanks supprised htc didnt just give people the extra ram in the stock roms thanks for you help
brockyneo said:
lol ok great thanks supprised htc didnt just give people the extra ram in the stock roms thanks for you help
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it does but for the american citizens only