This is a quick blurb that will make a lot of people happy. Remember the ramhack for the G1? Well, the Nexus One only has 218MB memory available to Linux, despite having a whopping 512MB total. Even the Motorola Droid, with 256MB total, has more RAM available to Linux! I asked about this, and romainguy explained on the Android IRC channel:
<coolbho3k> How can the Droid have 256MB of RAM but 230+MB memfree, while the Nexus has 512MB RAM but only 218MB memfree?
<@romainguy_> there's a limitation in the kernel
<@romainguy_> next update should give you 100 or 150 MB back
<coolbho3k> Very nice!!!
<@romainguy_> swetland can tell you more
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There we go. A "memhack" kernel update in the next Nexus One OTA should give us an additional 100-150MB RAM. Who wants to try to compile a kernel that does this now?
Did u ask him when the next update is coming out.
is that an official IRC channel? with people that actually work on it or what?
niiiick said:
is that an official IRC channel? with people that actually work on it or what?
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Yes it is, and Romain Guy works for Google.
I wondered what happened to all that memory! I still don't understand why 2 1 is taking so much.
Wonder if that will correct the slight and infrequent animation studdering people sometimes see when moving between home screens and scrolling.
That is awesome, I was so happy to have 512 mb RAM it sucks to hear they dont use half of it, glad to hear they plan to fix that. So this thing is going to be even smoother? Also, we are talking about an official ota from google correct? I wonder why they released it with the limitation...
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so we are talking about an official ota from google? I wonder why they released it with the limitation...
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This is a limitation of the 2.6.29 kernel.
The 2.6.32 kernel fixes this issue, but I guess they haven't worked out all the bugs yet.
dwang said:
This is a limitation of the 2.6.29 kernel.
The 2.6.32 kernel fixes this issue, but I guess they haven't worked out all the bugs yet.
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That explains why Cyanogen thought 2.6.32 flew compared to 2.6.29...
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This is a quick blurb that will make a lot of people happy. Remember the ramhack for the G1? Well, the Nexus One only has 218MB memory available to Linux, despite having a whopping 512MB total. Even the Motorola Droid, with 256MB total, has more RAM available to Linux! I asked about this, and romainguy explained on the Android IRC channel:
There we go. A "memhack" kernel update in the next Nexus One OTA should give us an additional 100-150MB RAM. Who wants to try to compile a kernel that does this now?
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Is this like the PS3 where, at launch, they reserved more ram for its OS. Then they released more back to apps (games) with firmware updates Anyway, good news to everyone!
Is this the correct chat room?
http://irc2go.com/pjirc/?net=freenode&room=android
So is there an eta of this official patch from google?
well, what we do want the RAM for, yah for the OS than APPS but whats the deference between the OS and APPs ? well it is complicated as every APP will be running inside a VM made and managed by the OS
What I think : it doesn't matter, we want a good working OS that's fast and nice not free RAM ,that's just there not to be used for any good. If they at Google change it let them do that!
more RAM = less often apps have to be killed to make space for newly launched apps = less processing killing those apps and also more apps stored on memory for quick on-demand launch.
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Is this the correct chat room?
http://irc2go.com/pjirc/?net=freenode&room=android
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yes that is it.
Romain_Guy told me there is no ETA for the update but it is going to be included in the next update, whenever that may be. Hopefully not too long !
hope they fix a few other things aswell, i love the phone but there are a few aggravating software issues.
bump for awareness man..
so looking forward to the next patch
Another awareness bump.
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Another awareness bump.
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Really?
It's a pasted irc log, not breast cancer; people don't need to be aware of it.
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Really?
It's a pasted irc log, not breast cancer; people don't need to be aware of it.
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agreed. How is anyone going to be affected by knowing this?
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It seems to me thanks to the leak, we have everything an official release would have, except the bugs . Why is everyone anticipating it so much?
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It seems to me thanks to the leak, we have everything an official release would have, except the bugs . Why is everyone anticipating it so much?
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1. fresh kitchen.
2. kernel source code for the .29 kernel.
3.??
I think it is more for the code guys, because once they release officially then leagally HTC has to release the source (which they probably wont without pestering again) but that will allow the code monkeys (no offence you guys are awesome) to work their magic and get things really improved.
That is a very good question. I am completely happy with what I have now. Fresh 2.0d is, IMO, as good as it gets.
gunnyman said:
What changes for us?
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We can start reading 5 new FroYo threads per day!
Thank you. That makes perfect sense. I had forgotten about the Kernel being OSS.
thedudejdog said:
kernel source code for the .29 kernel
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2.1 + Overclock + Working Camera = yes
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2.1 + Overclock + Working Camera = yes
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That
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All I care about is Fresh 2.1!
troyboytn said:
That is a very good question. I am completely happy with what I have now. Fresh 2.0d is, IMO, as good as it gets.
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I agree
TheBiles said:
All I care about is Fresh 2.1!
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!!!
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It seems to me thanks to the leak, we have everything an official release would have, except the bugs . Why is everyone anticipating it so much?
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Some of you guys are completely delusional. The official release is going to fix an enormous number of bugs that currently exist in all 2.1-leak-based roms.
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Some of you guys are completely delusional. The official release is going to fix an enormous number of bugs that currently exist in all 2.1-leak-based roms.
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And most likely create more bugs than it fixes.....just as the November MR did.
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Some of you guys are completely delusional. The official release is going to fix an enormous number of bugs that currently exist in all 2.1-leak-based roms.
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im not sure what bugs you are refering to. I have 0 problems with my phone (except when I mess with stuff)
First the OFFICIAL version shouldn't have us running back and forth to FIX little things.
Loading a ROM after the release should be as smooth as say....Fresh 1.1
I haven't had to FIX anything in that ROM and everything works.
My 2 cents is that being able to find the thread you want with the ROM dev you like and then load that ROM would be sweet.
But sifting thru' 200 plus pages and being asked to fix the ROM is weird for me.
Seems the dev would ADD the fix and re-release?.....no?
But like everyone else, I'm waiting for the OFFICIAL release before jumping into making assorted changes which we ALL might have to re-change when the release comes about.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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First the OFFICIAL version shouldn't have us running back and forth to FIX little things.
Loading a ROM after the release should be as smooth as say....Fresh 1.1
I haven't had to FIX anything in that ROM and everything works.
My 2 cents is that being able to find the thread you want with the ROM dev you like and then load that ROM would be sweet.
But sifting thru' 200 plus pages and being asked to fix the ROM is weird for me.
Seems the dev would ADD the fix and re-release?.....no?
But like everyone else, I'm waiting for the OFFICIAL release before jumping into making assorted changes which we ALL might have to re-change when the release comes about.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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The forums are called 'XDA DEVELOPERS'. If you (not you specifically but in general) are going to ***** and whine because the ROMs you're using aren't 100% flawless...you're in the wrong place. Sit down shut up and wait for the official release. These ROMs aren't perfect, nor are they intended to be...but by and large they're a hell of a lot better than the crap Sprint has consistently put out (both Android and WinMo).
As for 'fixing huge amount of bugs'....umm..I doubt it. I doubt Sprint would even be aware of most of them were it not for developers and testers like those here on XDA.
With the update to 2.1, Hero users will be able to activate an ancient supernatural power known as Voltron. We can either use it to better humanity...or destroy society.... I call dibs on the head.
With the update to 2.1, Hero users will be able to activate an ancient supernatural power known as Voltron. We can either use it to better humanity...or destroy society.... I call dibs on the head.
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lol I think apple is gonna do that. lol
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I wouldn't look for that .29 kernel source to be available when the office 2.1 drops. HTC's gonna **** around for a while before giving that up.
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2. kernel source code for the .29 kernel.
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Considering how long it took to get the source code for the .27 kernel, don't count on it.
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First the OFFICIAL version shouldn't have us running back and forth to FIX little things.
Loading a ROM after the release should be as smooth as say....Fresh 1.1
I haven't had to FIX anything in that ROM and everything works.
My 2 cents is that being able to find the thread you want with the ROM dev you like and then load that ROM would be sweet.
But sifting thru' 200 plus pages and being asked to fix the ROM is weird for me.
Seems the dev would ADD the fix and re-release?.....no?
But like everyone else, I'm waiting for the OFFICIAL release before jumping into making assorted changes which we ALL might have to re-change when the release comes about.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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well i never really had any problems since i rooted and installed the roms that ive gotten from xda (damage 2.0r3 and now 2.07.2) to be honest they have been much more bug free than the stock rom 1.56 that i origionally had. so im sticking with xda and to go back and never be able to root again.... well thats scarry
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1151
Posted a few minutes ago.....
Some of you may remember from when the GN1 was launched, during the press conference, there was indication that google would be implementing this at some point.
It has now been confirmed within their issue tracker.
And with the pending release of Android 2.2... and the upcoming conference... this may be only a few *days* off.
I thought nexus one didn't need apps2sd?
512mb internal storage? Why would you need apps2sd with that much?
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I thought nexus one didn't need apps2sd?
512mb internal storage? Why would you need apps2sd with that much?
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Some people *cough*non-android users*cough* seem to think that Android apps are all 100mb each and you can only install a few. This will finally calm those masses, and help the odd person that installs 600 apps.
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I thought nexus one didn't need apps2sd?
512mb internal storage? Why would you need apps2sd with that much?
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This has NOTHING to do with GN1.
It is for ANDROID, which is NOT limited to a single device.
It should be in the next available release after 2.2
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I thought nexus one didn't need apps2sd?
512mb internal storage? Why would you need apps2sd with that much?
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That isn't all for apps. Only 190mb can be used for apps. I ran out after about 100-125 apps were installed.
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It is for ANDROID, which is NOT limited to a single device.
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it might as well be seeing as they usually only support certain versions of android and those version are only available on certain devices.
lbcoder said:
This has NOTHING to do with GN1.
It is for ANDROID, which is NOT limited to a single device.
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I know this, I was using Nexus as an example. After Sapphire, it seems like apps2sd isn't really needed. However, I never knew it was limited to so little room of that for apps. With my Sapphire I have about 100 apps (more than I really ever use) and still have 170mb internal memory. Thats why I was like, wtf, why now? Not sure how much is limited to apps on Sapphire, though.
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That isn't all for apps. Only 190mb can be used for apps. I ran out after about 100-125 apps were installed.
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I didn't even really think about that. :/ I'm just stupid sometimes.
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it might as well be seeing as they usually only support certain versions of android and those version are only available on certain devices.
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Google supports ANDROID, you want to speak with the manufacturers and carriers who are the ones that manage what updates make it to which phones.
Google is releasing this for ANDROID, what phones it makes it to is not Google's decision.
It is needed for good game development
Lucky Nexus One bustards
As owners for X10, are we eligible for this update??
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Google is also celebrating today - Android 2.2 Froyo has reached two important milestones. Google open sourced the latest version and they are pushing out the final Froyo update to Nexus One users. And we're sure the timing has nothing to do with the launch of the iPhone 4.
Sure, Froyo has been available to Nexus One users for a while (mostly on dev phones and through manual updates), but this seems to be the final, official version of Android 2.2. You could manually download the update from here (it works only if you're running FRF50 firmware), though if you don't know what you're doing, you should wait for the OTA update.
Your Nexus One should automatically check for updates or you could force a check (go to Settings -> About phone -> System updates), so one way or another you should be getting a notification that a new version is available and download it Over-the-Air.
Some people are reporting that the update is not available for them yet, so it might not work right away - rolling out updates is a gradual process and it varies by location too.
The other important milestone for Android 2.2 Froyo is that Google open-sourced the code to their partners and manufacturers and everyone else too. This means that they can start working on Froyo firmwares for the non-Google phones.
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Well the Nexus One is a Google brand phone so it's no huge surprise that the Nexus gets it first. It'd be more suprising if it didn't.
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Well the Nexus One is a Google brand phone so it's no huge surprise that the Nexus gets it first. It'd be more suprising if it didn't.
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Totally agree with you, but I believe SE should consider updating us (X10 users) to the 2.2 not 2.1
Anybody is reading from SE team???
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Totally agree with you, but I believe SE should consider updating us (X10 users) to the 2.2 not 2.1
Anybody is reading from SE team???
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You put your hope on SE? Joke or what?
The way I see it with Android devices is that you buy the hardware and then hack the software to hell and back. Just didn't count on the X10 being so hard to mod when I got it, guess I'm too used to HTC phones.
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The way I see it with Android devices is that you buy the hardware and then hack the software to hell and back. Just didn't count on the X10 being so hard to mod when I got it, guess I'm too used to HTC phones.
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I believe when the root is released we will not have any problems
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I believe when the root is released we will not have any problems
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Of course, I'm counting on that too. But the suspense is killing me.
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Of course, I'm counting on that too. But the suspense is killing me.
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did you hear any expected date of release?
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did you hear any expected date of release?
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I've heard tons of timeframes, all of them are "Later", "Soon", "When it's done" and so on. Afaict they've got it working but need to make it more noob-friendly as well as hide the exploit.
I understand that 'root' has been achieved, but won't there be further delays until a stable custom Rom is created for the x10?
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I understand that 'root' has been achieved, but won't there be further delays until a stable custom Rom is created for the x10?
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Oh yes, it will take anywhere from a short while to a very long time afterwards. Getting root is just one step of the way.
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Oh yes, it will take anywhere from a short while to a very long time afterwards. Getting root is just one step of the way.
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Thought as much. From the posts on other threads it seems as though posters think root and ROM will appear simultaneously.
I can imagine that the first ROMs we'll get our hands on will have all sorts of bugs, and we'll have to compromise on things like WiFi, Bluetooth e.t.c. Maybe due to lack of drivers available.
I'm going on past experience from The G1 and old WinMo devices.
Oh well.......
Remember to be realistic, guys. The devs can't just copy and paste Froyo onto our X10s without a hitch. It will take some time. I'm not even anticipating a stable version of Froyo on the X10 because it is a huge task.
What I'd like to see is the latest FW but stripped down with no branding or operator software (and no Moxier crap!!!). And if it's possible, for Flash to be released on the X10. That may not be feasible but I certainly hope it's available. SE takes forever!!
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Thought as much. From the posts on other threads it seems as though posters think root and ROM will appear simultaneously.
I can imagine that the first ROMs we'll get our hands on will have all sorts of bugs, and we'll have to compromise on things like WiFi, Bluetooth e.t.c. Maybe due to lack of drivers available.
I'm going on past experience from The G1 and old WinMo devices.
Oh well.......
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you are right but i can sacrifice and wait as this phone is a monster
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Remember to be realistic, guys. The devs can't just copy and paste Froyo onto our X10s without a hitch. It will take some time. I'm not even anticipating a stable version of Froyo on the X10 because it is a huge task.
What I'd like to see is the latest FW but stripped down with no branding or operator software (and no Moxier crap!!!). And if it's possible, for Flash to be released on the X10. That may not be feasible but I certainly hope it's available. SE takes forever!!
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we have no option dear friend except to wait/pray and see the results
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we have no option dear friend except to wait/pray and see the results
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Already hoping and praying to Gods which I don't even worship! LOL
I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!
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I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!
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test test test
Yeah I wouldnt mind hearing from someone that came from say CM5 to the latest stock Froyo. Is it better? Is it worth flashing now seeing as how CM6 is about a week or so away?
I would try it now myself, but I can't give up the dumb little things. (such as trackball wake)
I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo. I was surprised that the final Froyo release seemed faster and smoother than FRF83. The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT. I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.
Super. Wonderful. Amazing. Thank you Google and anyone else on the OHA that contributed to this.
It's great. I love it. I love it even more when someone hands me a HTC Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile on it... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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Look at my sig pic, WM is all I ever used for years. I dabbled with android with emulators on my Fuze, then finally made the jump when the N1 was released. After using it for 1 day, I was emotional.
I really can't think of one single thing I miss with WM...
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The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT.
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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.
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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.
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Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).
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Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).
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The JIT actually wouldn't have any impact on loading times. The standard interpreted code is always run initially. It's only once the app starts running that the JIT is able to locate frequently accessed blocks of code that would benefit from compiling to native code.
irishrally said:
I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo ...
... I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.
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I too have used CyanogenMod since I had my G1. I DID play with, and greatly enjoy the Froyo ROM when it was released by PaulObrien.
But I did miss some of Cyanogens special additions, so I went back to it a few weeks ago.
Now with the latest Froyo out, I may change over - AGAIN!
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... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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hahaha, funny you mentioned that.
A co-worker of mine approached me, and said he bought this Android™ phone from a friend. He heard that I know about Android, rooting, apps, etc. so he had some questions for me. He hands me the phone, and I was thrilled to hold this LARGE HTC DEVICE in my hand. I haven't held an EVO, yet, so imagine my joy!!! My first time ya know so I was honored.
It was branded T-MOBILE though ... hhmm, this can't be right!!! It should say Sprint!!!
After seeing the homescreen and tapping/flicking/swiping for all of 1.0 seconds, I handed it back to him and told him he has a Windows Mobile device - NOT ANDROID, and boy oh boy, was he pissed!!!! LMAO
Poor guy!
"If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it."
I let him play with my Nexus for a few minutes. He offered to buy it from me for $450 .... nuh uh homeboy! This is my baby!
can you tell me how to ram hack for g1 2.1 rom,please?
1. You can't.
2. Go **** in your hand for being so ****ing lazy, not reading, AND posting in the wrong section.
3. Seriously though, you can't do the ram hack on 2.x
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1. You can't.
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Says who?
Can't is NOT the same as NOT RECOMMENDED.
2. Go **** in your hand for being so ****ing lazy, not reading, AND posting in the wrong section.
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Do you hug your mother with those hands?
3. Seriously though, you can't do the ram hack on 2.x
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See (1).
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Says who?
Can't is NOT the same as NOT RECOMMENDED.
Do you hug your mother with those hands?
See (1).
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I seriously enjoy your posts.
Now for the OP. The reason why the RAMhack isn't recommended is because it takes away from the graphics. 2.1 and higher use these graphics alot more compared to 1.6 and below. So if you used the ramhack on a 2.1, your phone will run like dog ****. As it has been stated a little bit of research would have told you this. Although not recommended, it is possible.
no ram hack for 2.1/2/2, use fr custom mtd patch. you'll have more space than ever.
LOONEyRR said:
no ram hack for 2.1/2/2, use fr custom mtd patch. you'll have more space than ever.
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You are seriously confused. You really should do a bit of reading on wikipedia about the differences between RAM (i.e. DRAM, SRAM, etc.) and NVM-storage (i.e. NAND/FLASH/ROM/PROM/EEPROM/etc.)
Yeah you can ramhack 2.1 and 2.2 but I wouldn't recommend it ^^
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Can't is NOT the same as NOT RECOMMENDED.
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If (s)he says "not recommended," and the OP does it thinking (s)he is special and nothing bad can happen to their phone, then coming back here and raging because "it's no workin right11!11!1one!11eleventy," then a little lie is best.
Honestly, and I know this is off-topic, but just get Super-D. You're running a G1 (I hope, since you're in this forum), and just because it CAN run 2.x, doesn't mean it should. Plus, you'll save a lot of hair from being pulled out cause you won't have to wait six years for the G1 to respond to hitting the home button.
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If (s)he says "not recommended," and the OP does it thinking (s)he is special and nothing bad can happen to their phone, then coming back here and raging because "it's no workin right11!11!1one!11eleventy," then a little lie is best.
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Knowing that this person does NOT have the technical understanding to implement it (requires patching and compiling a kernel), it makes no difference. If this person *COULD* do that, then that person will come back and we have our daily required COMEDY and get the opportunity to hand out "I told you so"'s. Either possibility, all is good.
Instead of that, YOU and ZEP decided to come in here with your foul handed insults and lies. Do you really believe that that is better? You could have led that person on for a good laugh, or sensibly explained the REASON. No, you decided to take the 3rd option and make a complete ass out of yourself and do whatever you possibly could to create an environment of unfriendliness.
So how about this: DIE AND ROT.
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Knowing that this person does NOT have the technical understanding to implement it (requires patching and compiling a kernel), it makes no difference. If this person *COULD* do that, then that person will come back and we have our daily required COMEDY and get the opportunity to hand out "I told you so"'s. Either possibility, all is good.
Instead of that, YOU and ZEP decided to come in here with your foul handed insults and lies. Do you really believe that that is better? You could have led that person on for a good laugh, or sensibly explained the REASON. No, you decided to take the 3rd option and make a complete ass out of yourself and do whatever you possibly could to create an environment of unfriendliness.
So how about this: DIE AND ROT.
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ROFL @ the irony in this post. How does it not make a difference if you KNOW that this person doesn't have the knowhow to implement it? You're purposely directing him to the wrong path, just so you can have your little "daily required comedy"? But wait wait, I'm the bad guy here and somehow spreading "insults and lies." In this case, the lie is better than the truth, and I'd REALLY love to see the insults I wrote.
Do you really believe the person would have a laugh out of having their phone running extremely slow? And you're halfway right, I took the third option and instead of making a complete ass of myself, which you seem to have down to a science, I gave the person another choice they could use to better their phone.
**** it, I can't stop laughing enough to point out the rest of your logical fallacies in the post, so:
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So how about this: DIE AND ROT.
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In the same post!! lmfao. You're good man, you're actually absolutely right, laughing is a good thing. You just might want to find alternative ways of getting your fix, other than watching people suffer.
Can someone please put the kids to sleep? We need some grown up supervision here.
lbcoder said:
You are seriously confused. You really should do a bit of reading on wikipedia about the differences between RAM (i.e. DRAM, SRAM, etc.) and NVM-storage (i.e. NAND/FLASH/ROM/PROM/EEPROM/etc.)
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ur right. i WAS confused. lmao
adobrakic said:
blah blah blah
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As I said, DIE AND ROT.
StreetGuru said:
Can someone please put the kids to sleep? We need some grown up supervision here.
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You must know some pretty intelligent children.
As I said, DIE AND ROT.
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Good argument, it was almost as well-structed as your first, although I would have spent a little more time backing up my points; but that's just me.
Anyway, if OP bothers to return, you mind posting what you decided to go with and how it's working out?
adobrakic said:
you must know some pretty intelligent children.
Good argument, it was almost as well-structed as your first, although i would have spent a little more time backing up my points; but that's just me.
Anyway, if op bothers to return, you mind posting what you decided to go with and how it's working out?
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REPEAT: GET LOST [email protected]@HOLE and DONT COME BACK!
Everyone is talking that ramhack will eat graphics... but I personally don't give f**k about graphics - I prefer having working phone instead of some godd**n graphics!
In 1.6 times I used to normally take calls while MyTrack was recording, now I can't.
In 1.6 once I've stopped with 1200h of uptime. Now I have to reboot every 24h.
In 2.1/2.2 even market is running out of memory...
Yeah, I can go back to 1.6 but I don't want to leave all new CM features (yup, CM features, not Android features)... It seems like all thinking-of-g1-users-developers are gone to these "awesome, great'n'shining new phones"... Blah.
BTW. What happened with optimalization in android?! Are these assh***es at google trying to force us to buy new hardware? I don't want to change my G1, it's IMO still good piece of hardware.
Burag said:
Everyone is talking that ramhack will eat graphics... but I personally don't give f**k about graphics - I prefer having working phone instead of some godd**n graphics!
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CM5/6 won't boot correctly w/o graphics that is the real issue (you can go to the pre-cm5 eclair's to get a rom with ram hack included.
However there appears to be ram to be had (without loosing graphics) ..
1MB that is lost can be reclaimed with this patch: http://github.com/ezterry/kernel-biff-testing/commit/0af805ea0e6e769e441ef2e554861fd6b4b5b3ba
before: (using the ebi0 kernel on this page)
Code:
total used free shared buffers
Mem: [b]97700[/b] 94496 3204 0 320
after:
ezBiffTestKernel20101017-ebi0_S.zip(MD5: 4367fe0af2ba87f0d5b4d985f5be3360)
(built from the commit linked for the patch)
Code:
total used free shared buffers
Mem: [b]98708[/b] 28068 70640 0 348
(this works but isn't that well tested so use at your own risk.. also the extra MB will only work on ebi0 dreams; ebi0 magics will have the usual amount of ram as the patch doesn't include sapphire at this point in time)
(@lbcoder: this is effectively that 1 extra MB on ebi1.. there is a mess in the memory layout on these devices)
There seems to be more unclaimed ram (up to 8MB) but its bit harder to get at.. The new radio for the magic may help extract even more (it boots on the dream but has some issues).. So there is hope for a more efficient system (just not the "ram hack")
ezterry said:
However there appears to be ram to be had (without loosing graphics) ..
1MB that is lost can be reclaimed with this patch: http://github.com/ezterry/kernel-biff-testing/commit/0af805ea0e6e769e441ef2e554861fd6b4b5b3ba
before: (using the ebi0 kernel on this page)
Code:
total used free shared buffers
Mem: [b]97700[/b] 94496 3204 0 320
after:
ezBiffTestKernel20101017-ebi0_S.zip(MD5: 4367fe0af2ba87f0d5b4d985f5be3360)
(built from the commit linked for the patch)
Code:
total used free shared buffers
Mem: [b]98708[/b] 28068 70640 0 348
(this works but isn't that well tested so use at your own risk.. also the extra MB will only work on ebi0 dreams; So there is hope for a more efficient system (just not the "ram hack")
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Ok. I'm kamikaze and will try this .
Update - it works pretty good , my G1 with that kernel is very fast and responsive . Good job ,on G1 even 1 MB more RAM is something important .
sebx_g1 said:
Ok. I'm kamikaze and will try this .
Update - it works pretty good , my G1 with that kernel is very fast and responsive . Good job ,on G1 even 1 MB more RAM is something important .
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Which ROM are you using? Have you just flashed ezBiffTestKernel20101017-ebi0_S.zip?
Thanks.
pezze said:
Which ROM are you using? Have you just flashed ezBiffTestKernel20101017-ebi0_S.zip?
Thanks.
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(Just fyi the patch is in latest pershoot and cm kernels as well..)
Many people are using the kernel (only dream users the extra mb)
this is the kernel I used in the stock mt3g froyo rom DS version.