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HD2, 1GB of RAM?? HuH!?!?

This whole time I have been researching the HD2, I have always heard it having about 500+mb ram...now when I went and checked on the Tmobile site it says 1gb of ram...here (I was comparing it to the touch pro 2)...
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones...426-a830-49bb-aa7c-d47156399047&manufacturer=
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Screen shots attached...first is a zoomed out view so you can see it all at once...the second is a zoomed in view of the top half, the third is the bottom half zoomed in...
I hope this is true ? but Idk why I dont really believe it yet??...any ideas?

the american version of the hd2 will have more RAM and ROM

These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.

kilrah said:
These screenshots say 512MB ROM, 1GB RAM... but from what we know it's the opposite (1GB ROM and 512MB RAM), the guy who made the website description most likely screwed up. Not to mention 1GB RAM would be absolutely useless.
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Yea, that's definately true!
But people always say bigger is better

Big phone
Big delay
Big bug
Big error
Is it better? No it isn't!!

yeah even on the htc website it says it will have 1gb of ROM and 5_ _ mb of RAM.... hey I know you say 1gb of ram would be useless, but for the same price -why would you argue with that ? haha....but yeah can we say 'false advertisement' here?.... I am sure there is a complaint to be made, for those of us who already knew it was fake from the beginning it would not be a surprise when we get our hd2 and do not see 1gb of ram...but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....

erebusting said:
but for the others, they may be like 'wth??!' ....
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Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is

kilrah said:
Those who don't know yet most likely don't know where to check how much they have, and certainly don't even know what RAM is
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This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."

rickyoon.vegas said:
This reminds me...
"hey, check out my new comp I just built! It's got 8GB of RAM!"
"Oh that's pretty cool. What processor are you running?"
"I went with Pentium 4. To save me some money on useless thing. Who cares? I have 8GB of RAM!"
".............."
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loooooooool

hoss_n2 said:
loooooooool
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Current ( European ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-512 ROM
T-mobile ( USA ) HD2 :
-512 RAM
-1024 ROM

Isn't it 574 ram on both versions?

yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount

Yep, but why do they loose stability with more ram?

Loose stability??? I see no difference between cooked rom (576MB RAM) and official 1.66 WWE (448MB RAM).

it probably looses stability in a case of when an application over ranges ram so if there is a block of ram reserved then it may be used for those instances ? I am not sure just trying to think why it would be that way....

Just open lots of apps to fill RAM and again ad again. Nothing happends. Where did U read about instability with 576MB unlocked?

that is not what I was talking about, (opening a bunch of apps)... that does not mean it will over range the ram...
you may be familiar with programming and in such if you say go out of bounds on an array -it will cause some sorts of errors.... This is the type of situation I mean when I said over ranging ram, except it may come in a different form, but when a program basically tries to access more ram than it is allowed or tries to access ram which is non existent then it would normally cause an error....
all in all it is just an example, and I was just trying to think logically of why they would not allow all of the RAM to be unlocked in stock ROMS ...

davidcampbell said:
yeah they do but most shipped roms disable the last few sectors of ram for stability reasons i believe, you need a cooked rom to enable the full amount
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not on the US version, 576MB stock

chaoscentral said:
not on the US version, 576MB stock
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I concur, I am actually using one right now and in hardware specs it shows the 576mb RAM, 1024mb ROM, and of course the sick 1024mhz processor

as a result of the U.S. version having more ram and rom, its a little bigger..

us hd2 or hd2?

hello. i am currently a xperia x1 user but i am seriously considering to buy a htc touch hd2. however i can't decide between an unlocked tmobile (us) hd2 or hd2 apparently the us hd2 has 1gb rom and 576mb ram. i have read somewhere that the 'xtra 128mb hidden' ram can be unlock in the hd2 when flashed to custom rom i just want to confirm this and what you think guys which one the 2 you advice me to buy? its a hard decision for me. thanks!

shak7i said:
hello. i am currently a xperia x1 user but i am seriously considering to buy a htc touch hd2. however i can't decide between an unlocked tmobile (us) hd2 or hd2 apparently the us hd2 has 1gb rom and 576mb ram. i have read somewhere that the 'xtra 128mb hidden' ram can be unlock in the hd2 when flashed to custom rom i just want to confirm this and what you think guys which one the 2 you advice me to buy? its a hard decision for me. thanks!
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it depends on your location as tmobile does not work 3g only on t mobile us ,and about the ram it is true both have same ram amount

flame me if you want for the complete noob question but if the us hd2 has 1gb ROM how much does the european hd2 have?

ricey1986 said:
flame me if you want for the complete noob question but if the us hd2 has 1gb ROM how much does the european hd2 have?
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512 mb of rom but both have 576 mb of ram

i have seen a couple of unboxing videos o us hd2. they say 1g rom 1g ram. not sure abt the ram but the rom thng is what matters. believe me ull need every mb in that rom. only problem with my hd2 is that i always have to look out for not running out of space. its hilariously frustrating. go for the US one.

russeini said:
i have seen a couple of unboxing videos o us hd2. they say 1g rom 1g ram. not sure abt the ram but the rom thng is what matters. believe me ull need every mb in that rom. only problem with my hd2 is that i always have to look out for not running out of space. its hilariously frustrating. go for the US one.
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It's not like an iPhone - there's a slot under the back cover where you can put your own storage cards in. I've got 16GB in mine and I've had it for nearly 5 months and still have lots of space left on both the SD card and the phone memory!

forgot to mention that although u have 512 mb rom on the non us hd2, with the preinstalled system nd software on it, u start with only approx 140 mb of free space! now if u thnk thts enough, just try it.

russeini said:
forgot to mention that although u have 512 mb rom on the non us hd2, with the preinstalled system nd software on it, u start with only approx 140 mb of free space! now if u thnk thts enough, just try it.
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Oh that's plenty. You just need to use common sense when installing things that don't need to be on the phone memory. That's difficult for some, and they don't understand so blame "low memory" problems, despite the fact that it's normal for WM devices and has been for years.
Also, with the ability to do what I want to my phone, unlike some other popular devices on the market, I can remove things that I don't want and get lots more than 140MB free on my device.
It's really up to you and your own personal capabilities and understanding as to what you do with it, just like most devices.

hoss_n2 said:
it depends on your location as tmobile does not work 3g only on t mobile us ,and about the ram it is true both have same ram amount
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so you mean even if the us hd2 is unlocked the 3g won't work in other countries?
btw thanks for your replies guys

shak7i said:
so you mean even if the us hd2 is unlocked the 3g won't work in other countries?
btw thanks for your replies guys
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No it won't, they use different frequencies to pretty much every other network on the planet.

rp-x1 said:
No it won't, they use different frequencies to pretty much every other network on the planet.
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hmmm....so im buying the hd2 on the coming month. thanx!!

rp-x1 said:
No it won't, they use different frequencies to pretty much every other network on the planet.
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HD2 US and HD2 non US are all WCDMA [2100MHZ]
you sure the arent work each?

"OFFICIAL" apps-to-sd coming "soon".

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1151
Posted a few minutes ago.....

Some of you may remember from when the GN1 was launched, during the press conference, there was indication that google would be implementing this at some point.
It has now been confirmed within their issue tracker.
And with the pending release of Android 2.2... and the upcoming conference... this may be only a few *days* off.

I thought nexus one didn't need apps2sd?
512mb internal storage? Why would you need apps2sd with that much?

r3s-rt said:
I thought nexus one didn't need apps2sd?
512mb internal storage? Why would you need apps2sd with that much?
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Some people *cough*non-android users*cough* seem to think that Android apps are all 100mb each and you can only install a few. This will finally calm those masses, and help the odd person that installs 600 apps.

r3s-rt said:
I thought nexus one didn't need apps2sd?
512mb internal storage? Why would you need apps2sd with that much?
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This has NOTHING to do with GN1.
It is for ANDROID, which is NOT limited to a single device.

It should be in the next available release after 2.2

r3s-rt said:
I thought nexus one didn't need apps2sd?
512mb internal storage? Why would you need apps2sd with that much?
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That isn't all for apps. Only 190mb can be used for apps. I ran out after about 100-125 apps were installed.

lbcoder said:
It is for ANDROID, which is NOT limited to a single device.
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it might as well be seeing as they usually only support certain versions of android and those version are only available on certain devices.

lbcoder said:
This has NOTHING to do with GN1.
It is for ANDROID, which is NOT limited to a single device.
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I know this, I was using Nexus as an example. After Sapphire, it seems like apps2sd isn't really needed. However, I never knew it was limited to so little room of that for apps. With my Sapphire I have about 100 apps (more than I really ever use) and still have 170mb internal memory. Thats why I was like, wtf, why now? Not sure how much is limited to apps on Sapphire, though.
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jsapp said:
That isn't all for apps. Only 190mb can be used for apps. I ran out after about 100-125 apps were installed.
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I didn't even really think about that. :/ I'm just stupid sometimes.

looktall said:
it might as well be seeing as they usually only support certain versions of android and those version are only available on certain devices.
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Google supports ANDROID, you want to speak with the manufacturers and carriers who are the ones that manage what updates make it to which phones.
Google is releasing this for ANDROID, what phones it makes it to is not Google's decision.

It is needed for good game development

hd2 with 576mb ram

hi i was looking at a thred that says hd2 has more memory then 448mb it actually has 576mb i looked at mine at it says in the hardware information i do indeed have 576mb but when i go to the 'about' it says 451mb so do i have 576mb if not is it possible

you already have it. the hardware takes 128 for graphics.
look on a stock rom and it would say 448 in hardware and 320 in storage info

oh great so is that the maximun ram hd2 has or is they more hidden lol is it safe to say the hd2 is prob the most powerfull phone about

brockyneo said:
oh great so is that the maximun ram hd2 has or is they more hidden lol is it safe to say the hd2 is prob the most powerfull phone about
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you won't use all that ram anyway. its damn near impossible to get the leo to use all the stock ram, let alone the extra.
(dont forget, extra ram doesn't make it run faster. a bigger petrol tank doesn't make a car go faster, so you aren't missing out on anything)

lol ok great thanks supprised htc didnt just give people the extra ram in the stock roms thanks for you help

brockyneo said:
lol ok great thanks supprised htc didnt just give people the extra ram in the stock roms thanks for you help
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it does but for the american citizens only

Sense 3.0 + 2.3.4???

Do u think we well ever see a sense rom with gingerbread 2.3.4???

There are like 3 in the dev forum
from the mind of minolta

Infinite76 said:
There are like 3 in the dev forum
from the mind of minolta
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No those r all 2.3.3...

ls1xtreme said:
Do u think we well ever see a sense rom with gingerbread 2.3.4???
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the answer is obviously yes. sense 3 with 2.3.4 is gonna be stock on the mt4gslide so once thats leaked you best believe we will have it. granted the mt4g slide has dual core processor and 200 more ram, so it can handle a bit more, you best believe our phones can still handle it, it wont take much more to run 2.3.4 than 2.3.3 which the mt4g already handles with great speeds. so just give it a month or so before an official build leaks and we will have it.

Almost the only difference between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 is the Google Framework.
You can just flash the latest one (which is integrated into most ROMs by now, all those supporting Gtalk video have to do it), and you'll get whatever you really need 2.3.4 for.

twilightvanquisher said:
granted the mt4g slide has dual core processor and 200 more ram, so it can handle a bit more
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Both phones have 768MB RAM.

TeeJay3800 said:
Both phones have 768MB RAM.
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no the mt4g has 626mb ram

twilightvanquisher said:
no the mt4g has 626mb ram
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No, the MT4G has 768MB. Check every online spec site. Heck even check the box the thing came in...
There's a command line you can enter in Terminal that says something about ~626, but that does not report total system RAM. I'm sure someone else can explain that better, but the MT4G does indeed have 768MB of total RAM.

TeeJay3800 said:
No, the MT4G has 768MB. Check every online spec site. Heck even check the box the thing came in...
There's a command line you can enter in Terminal that says something about ~626, but that does not report total system RAM. I'm sure someone else can explain that better, but the MT4G does indeed have 768MB of total RAM.
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He probably just didn't realize that the phone allocates a portion of the RAM out of default. I'm on CM7 and it shows 309 RAM used out of my 626 available. That's probably where he's getting that number from.

mackster248 said:
He probably just didn't realize that the phone allocates a portion of the RAM out of default. I'm on CM7 and it shows 309 RAM used out of my 626 available. That's probably where he's getting that number from.
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On all android phones you can't access all the ram, only some .
The is reserves some ram, like on windows where some ram used by system processes
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Jack_R1 said:
Almost the only difference between 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 is the Google Framework.
You can just flash the latest one (which is integrated into most ROMs by now, all those supporting Gtalk video have to do it), and you'll get whatever you really need 2.3.4 for.
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How would I flash just the frame work...i mainly want to be able to use g talk and have the pvc show right not side ways...

You can't have it showing right - because currently the Gtalk app was only built and adjusted for Nexus S, and was hacked to work on other phones. As such, it's not adjusted properly to be running on all the phones with different camera libs, and that includes Sense camera libs. Sense ROMs with 2.3.4 will cure it, if they'll have Talk app - which they might not.

Jack_R1 said:
You can't have it showing right - because currently the Gtalk app was only built and adjusted for Nexus S, and was hacked to work on other phones. As such, it's not adjusted properly to be running on all the phones with different camera libs, and that includes Sense camera libs. Sense ROMs with 2.3.4 will cure it, if they'll have Talk app - which they might not.
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Even when I had the Nexus S if your phone wasn't on stock you still had to find a work around to getting video chat to work on g-talk, then there was the issue of having it work on 3G and not just wifi.
-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-