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Mobile Internet Browser that acts like a full version???

I'm looking for a mobile browser for my 8525 that acts like a full browser.... I want the ability to visit websites that are typically blocked or inaccessible because I'm on a mobile browser.
Essentially, I looking for something to trick websites into thinking I'm on a full PC and not a phone.
Does this exist?
any tips?

enjoy...here's a detailed review of most ppc browsers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301009

jasoncroddy said:
I'm looking for a mobile browser for my 8525 that acts like a full browser.... I want the ability to visit websites that are typically blocked or inaccessible because I'm on a mobile browser.
Essentially, I looking for something to trick websites into thinking I'm on a full PC and not a phone.
Does this exist?
any tips?
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Opera Mobile.Runs all the SSL seamlessly.Worth every cent.

OPera Mobile
I've been running Opera for 6 months and it has outperformed everything else that I've tried. Well worth the $29 I paid. Opera has a setting that allows you to identify yourself as a desktop to websites. Works like a charm.

If you like Pocket IE then change the registrys to see it like a desktop. This is a link to the registry changes you will need to make.
http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocketpc_tweaks/change_pocket_internet_explorer_6
This will let your pocket internet explorer look like a normal desktop Internet Explorer 6.0
This can help you access sites that require a certain internet explorer version.
1) Open a registry editor
2) Go to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent\
3) Change the default value to "Mozilla/4.0".
4) Change the "Version" value to "MSIE 6.0".
5) Change the "Platform" value to "Windows NT 5.0".
6) Soft-reset.

thnx, helpful

I'm personally a fan of the Opera Browser.
I've used it for quite a while now and am very happy with it.
I would say it is your best bet.

Web Browsers For WIZARD

I Just Flashed a new ROM to my wizard (TNT 19213) and decided to investigate getting a new web browser to replace internet explorer. Does anyone recommend one over another? Also, how do you load them onto your wizard?

You could try Minimo. It's a mobile browser based on Mozilla.
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/
They have an exe install you run from your pc or a cab install you can copy to your phone to install from.

opera mini.

Opera mini, no doubt about it

Access NetFront Browser is free, and works similar to the much lauded SkyFire browser (also awesome, but in a closed beta test cycle that seems to be never-ending). The thing that sets these apart from the remaining browsers is that they are full-feature browsers, that show the internet as it would look on your desktop. In my opinion, Skyfire is superior at rendering sites true to their appearance on desktop browsers. NF browser is a little behind, and has a hard time substituting fonts, for example. There are both advantages and disadvantages to both browsers, as with anything. The main disadvantage to both of these is that you either need a wifi connection, or an unlimited data plan, or you're going to rack up a bill quickly, downloading full web sites.
For mobile browsers, there's Mozilla's Minimo, which is nice, and opera mini, which seems to be favored on this bulletin board site, and Microsoft-backed Zumobi (also in beta testing), all of which have nice features, but won't be the "best" for everyone. Keep in mind they are all mobile browsers, which means things like flash, javascript, and other web 2.0 features might not display properly, or might not work at all. All are much easier on the data plan than the full browsers mentioned above, but that means degraded websites only. Frankly, I just use the IE browser when I'm away from a hot-spot. I'm just more selective about what I surf to...
One last thing I almost forgot: All these browsers are free, but there is a pay-for version of Opera that is supposed to be superior to Mini. Opera Mini also requires the use of the MIDlet Manager or some other Java Emulator, making single-click launching much more complicated than necessary.

tried minimo but also like opera mini best,
you will need some java support for running it on your wizard.
i am using esmertecs.

someone on the developement and hacking made a cab instalation of the new opera mini browser that installs java emulator + opera mini and works best. has a dirrect shortcut in the programs folder and loads web pages extremely quickly over gprs.
I havent tried any of the "betas" floating around. Opera mobile is awesome too, but loads pages slower. works best with wifi.

S.V.I said:
someone on the developement and hacking made a cab instalation of the new opera mini browser that installs java emulator + opera mini and works best. has a dirrect shortcut in the programs folder and loads web pages extremely quickly over gprs.
I havent tried any of the "betas" floating around. Opera mobile is awesome too, but loads pages slower. works best with wifi.
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Thats exactly what I was looking for because the cab files are much easier to deal with, do you know where I can download this program?

Internet Explorer

Is it possible to install IE, I couldn't find it there. Although Opera is good for many things some sites do not display well in it (eg www.livedepartureboards.co.uk) whereas in IE they display a special low-res version automatically?

I installed TomTom and was configuring it when it asked me if I'd like to download some more maps. I clicked on yes and it brought up Internet Explorer. So it must be hidden away somewhere maybe?

Anfloyd said:
I installed TomTom and was configuring it when it asked me if I'd like to download some more maps. I clicked on yes and it brought up Internet Explorer. So it must be hidden away somewhere maybe?
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Is standard with my Touch HD

I'll just answer my own question here, thanks for suggesting it was already there, I found iexplore in the \Windows root directory.

jdta09 said:
Is it possible to install IE, I couldn't find it there. Although Opera is good for many things some sites do not display well in it (eg www.livedepartureboards.co.uk) whereas in IE they display a special low-res version automatically?
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Hi, there is something called a "user agent" that you can specify. It's a string, that some websites are set up for (like google).
It's either that the webpage desides to send you the full or mobile version of the site depending on the user agent of your browser, or the site site has information and links for your browser to choose, depending on your user agent.
In short, you can change the user agent string of your browser (pie or opera) to match that of a browser on your xp or vista desktop, making sure your mobile browser allways loads the full page. Or you can choose not to.
Opera tends to load full pages anyway, even if the user agent is set to a kind of mobile browser, because of the zooming capabilities (pretty darn selfrightious
pie is not that smart.
google user agent for more info.

jdta09 said:
I'll just answer my own question here, thanks for suggesting it was already there, I found iexplore in the \Windows root directory.
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alternatively, it's there in the 'All Programs' list in the bottom left corner when on the Programs slide in TF3D.
I just added it into one of the empty slots on that screen for ease of access
(Opera doesn't seem to like my works frame based webmail, but IE copes with it ok)

Netfront browser is another very good alternative. I find that it renders some website more accurately than Opera Browser. An example include cnn.com and smh.com.au.

How to import IE bookmarks into Opera?

On the normal version Opera 9.5 has a direct link to the IE bookmarks. The HTC Touch HD version does not have this link. Does anybody know how to link or how to import the IE bookmarks into Opera?

There are many ways, and here is one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435718

At first sight I was exited to see your recommendation, but if you go further into that thread you notice that Opera seems to have changed formatting in newer versions since those two solutions have been released in 2004 and 2005, so for example the conversion to the Opera on Xperia does not work.
Maybe this desktop solution is more promising, and then copying the Opera .adr file to the mobile device:
http://dontknowme.at/http://www.gettransmute.com/

Opera Mini 5.1 Released! (no longer 5 beta)

Haven't seen this posted yet, so here you go.
Opera blog post:
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2010/09/09/opera-mini-5-1-for-windows-mobile
Opera Mini 5.1 for Windows Mobile is here!
The long-awaited Opera Mini 5.1 for Windows Phone 6.5, Windows Mobile 6, Windows Mobile 5, and Windows Mobile 2003 based handsets has finally arrived. We have worked days and nights to improve on every aspect of the browser and make it integrate even better with the Windows Mobile platform. Some highlights include default browser functionality and a completely rewritten IME solution that taps directly into the device's own input method. A big thanks to all our users on Windows Mobile who have waited so patiently for this release.
NEW FEATURES
- Ability to set Opera Mini as default browser on the device.
- Support for g-sensor screen rotation on HTC and Samsung devices.
- Support for predictive input if the device supports it natively.
- Improved page layout on high-resolution screens.
- Improved kinetic scrolling.
- Use HQVGA skin for devices with less than QVGA resolution.
- Installer is now signed with VeriSign so Opera Mini will be a trusted application on your handset.
- Alternative installer that works on Windows Mobile 2003 Pocket PC devices.
- Advanced configuration in registry for power-users (see here for more information).
BUG FIXES
- Multitap input is working on 'classic' keypad devices.
- Input is working on qwerty keypad devices by Samsung and Amoi.
- Keypad shortcuts working on more devices.
- Ability to download files to memory card.
- Clock in Opera Mini is correct in all time zones now.
- Spanish locale is correctly detected.
- URLs and downloaded files can be passed to other applications as a platform request.
- Many bug fixes in Opera Mini browser core for stability and rendering accuracy.
NOTES
- Opera Mini 5.1 will be installed in parallel with Opera Mini 5.0 beta if the latter is already installed on your device.
- Opera Mini 5.1 will not import existing user data from Opera Mini 5.0 beta. Please consider using Opera Link to bring over bookmarks and speed dials to the new version.
- When set as default browser, Opera Mini 5.1 will not be the default viewer application for html files or other web page related files that may exist locally on your device.
To download Opera Mini 5.1 for Windows Mobile handsets visit http://m.opera.com/ on your phone or http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/pc/ on your PC.
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Opera Mini = Amazing
It is much faster and more fluid scrolling than either Skyfire or Opera mobile.
Coming from Android (and iPhone before that) the Hd2 was lacking a great web browsing experience but No More!

OMini 5 beta was nice, but I love the better scrolling in 5.1! I've been using OMini as my browser since my Wizard.

Does 5.1 support pinch-to-zoom?

Jimmmycrackcorn said:
Does 5.1 support pinch-to-zoom?
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I responded in the TmoUS HD2 thread but here you go:
i have always used mini in mobile view but iirc when a page is zoomed out it'll auto zoom to wherever you tap on the page. i don't think there is pinch to zoom.
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One wierd thing for me is if I press the home button while in landscape then Opera Mini sticks on the screen and doesnt go away unless I power off the phone. If I press the home button while in portrait its fine and goes away.
Anyone else having this problem?
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Does 5.1 support pinch-to-zoom?
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No pinch to zoom but all you do is tap on the screen once and it zooms in perfectly.

ap3604 said:
One wierd thing for me is if I press the home button while in landscape then Opera Mini sticks on the screen and doesnt go away unless I power off the phone. If I press the home button while in portrait its fine and goes away.
Anyone else having this problem?
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It's because the HD2 doesn't do landscape for the home tab. Next time you do that, just hit the start menu button & bring back OMini or any other app that does do landscape (sms, albums, file explorer) & then go back to portrait & then hit home. I ran in to this when using Comic Reader Mobi

Does anyone know how clearing the cache memory works on Opera Mini?
On the Opera Mobile browser it would have an option in the security settings to clear cache so the browser wouldnt slow down but I dont see that option on Opera Mini.
Ive done google searches for "opera mini clear cache" but didnt find anything conclusive. Mostly was blackberry users assuming that the clear history option in settings also clears the cache. One person also said the cache gets cleared when you exit the browser?
Does anyone with alot of Opera experience know how clearing the cache works on Opera Mini?
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It's because the HD2 doesn't do landscape for the home tab. Next time you do that, just hit the start menu button & bring back OMini or any other app that does do landscape (sms, albums, file explorer) & then go back to portrait & then hit home. I ran in to this when using Comic Reader Mobi
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Your a wise man thank you for letting me know =)

So there is no pinch to zoom? can someone confirm that?
If there is no pinch to zoom, i'm not gonna use it, because I really want to keep using pinch to zoom!

joshoon said:
So there is no pinch to zoom? can someone confirm that?
If there is no pinch to zoom, i'm not gonna use it, because I really want to keep using pinch to zoom!
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Read 3 posts above yours at #6...

Do you like the 5 mini, and why?
I've set it as default for it a week. Yes it loads faster, and the 9-grid home screen thumbnails looks better than the HD2 2-column thumbnails. I'm however switching back to the stock Opera 9.7 now. Things I don't like about Opera Mini 5:
Full screen or not, it hides my top bar, and together with it my battery indicator, clock, close button. I can't easily launch anything else or switch to another running program.
no way to minimize browser to go back to where I was
Really hates the complicated seqeunce to close the browser with the mandatory yes/no.
I can't find a way to add search providers to the search box. Well I can't modify the Opera google search either, but Opera Mini has an interface to look as if it can be configured (at least I can delete entries other than google) while not allowing me to add new entries.
force chinese language upon me. I have no idea why but all my settings are in chinese and I cannot find a way to get back to english.
Are there ways to circumvent this list of annoyances?
Does anybody know where I can find documentation on Opera Mini? I've found documentation on Opera, but they do not seem applicable to Opera Mini.

alex fung said:
Do you like the 5 mini, and why?
Full screen or not, it hides my top bar, and together with it my battery indicator, clock, close button. I can't easily launch anything else or switch to another running program.
hit the back button & then your back at HTC Sense
no way to minimize browser to go back to where I was
that's what the back button is for. this doesn't do like OMobile where the back button actually goes back a page
I can't find a way to add search providers to the search box. Well I can't modify the Opera google search either, but Opera Mini has an interface to look as if it can be configured (at least I can delete entries other than google) while not allowing me to add new entries.
I agree I wish you could edit this, but meh...
force chinese language upon me. I have no idea why but all my settings are in chinese and I cannot find a way to get back to english.
one of the links in my post goes to a post on Opera's site & discusses registry edits. I know there's one to change the language, maybe you need to do that.
Does anybody know where I can find documentation on Opera Mini? I've found documentation on Opera, but they do not seem applicable to Opera Mini. your best bet is their site in the thread that I linked to.
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ap3604 said:
Read 3 posts above yours at #6...
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Thats sad

back button. Thanks I hardly ever use the hardware buttons so I never noticed.
link in your post? Do you mean
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog...windows-mobile
I can't find any references to registry edits or language changes. Could you be a little more specific? Thanks.

joshoon said:
Thats sad
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As much as I like pinch zoom I must say that I absolutely LOVE the 1 touch super zoom of Opera Mini =)

alex fung said:
back button. Thanks I hardly ever use the hardware buttons so I never noticed.
link in your post? Do you mean
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog...windows-mobile
I can't find any references to registry edits or language changes. Could you be a little more specific? Thanks.
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http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=719972&t=1284012717
I personally put in the edit to stop the auto rotate
ha i use the back button all the time!

Argh
I wanted to love Opera Mini. I love the quick zoom/scroll effects.
BUT after using it for a few days I've found annoyances that keep it from being a better browser than Opera Mobile.
- Certain websites take FOREVER to load (some sites load quicker than Opera Mobile i.e. Google searches, but Xda loads slllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooowwww)
- Certain websites dont work correctly and doesn't go to the next page when I click the link
- Can't log into certain websites like I can with Opera Mobile
- When I try to reply to XDA threads it reloads the entire page after I type something in the reply box.
- Cant clear cache memory like I can with Opera Mobile
- Cant exit Opera Mini in landscape by pressing home button since it locks up the phone
- Cant use physical back button to go back a page like you can with Opera Mobile
Oh well...

I like Opera mini too as it is a lot smoother than opera mobile. I do have one issue though:
When you enter a url, it will automatically load the mobile version if available. Not all the mobile site have a link back to their full web site so it is impossible to go to a normal page for some sites.

ap3604 said:
Argh
I wanted to love Opera Mini. I love the quick zoom/scroll effects.
BUT after using it for a few days I've found annoyances that keep it from being a better browser than Opera Mobile.
- Certain websites take FOREVER to load (some sites load quicker than Opera Mobile i.e. Google searches, but Xda loads slllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllooooooooooowwww)
- Certain websites dont work correctly and doesn't go to the next page when I click the link
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forumx said:
I like Opera mini too as it is a lot smoother than opera mobile. I do have one issue though:
When you enter a url, it will automatically load the mobile version if available. Not all the mobile site have a link back to their full web site so it is impossible to go to a normal page for some sites.
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you know what, this happens to me with opera mobile too..

dan138zig said:
you know what, this happens to me with opera mobile too..
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The problems I listed with Opera Mini are ones that I don't have with Opera Mobile. So for me, it doesn't happen with Opera Mobile...