Android / Mogul / Google Apps sync - Mogul, XV6800 General

I know that people are working on developing the Android platform for other phone, what I am wondering is this: will we ever be able to sync our google apps with the mogul (or any other phone) without running Android?
What I am wondering is this; I am using an exchange server right now, but come January/Febuary I am not going to have that option available anymore, so I was wondering if we will be able to sync our google apps at some point without having an Android phone...
I don't know much about hacking or the developement that goes into customizing Android, but it would seem like it would be possible to lift whatever part of the Android os that is being used for syncing the google apps, so that it could be used on other devices. It seems like this would be possible just like taking off touch flo, or any other built in program (I know it probably isn't quite that simple, I was just trying to explain my concept of things).
Will this be possible? Will we be limited to haveing a phone with Android os for this?

I know there isn't mass support for google apps on WM but there is the gmail Java App, which i use. I don't use this, but i know its out there, and its an app to sync your google calender with your WinMo calendar. I'll see if i can spot it and drop a link for you here.

parrott84 said:
will we ever be able to sync our google apps with the mogul (or any other phone) without running Android??
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who uses google 'apps'? lol. google.com is good for searching, and that's about it. all their side software has never impressed me or been usefull.

agreed. I and the majority of the people using windows mobile don't give a **** about google apps. I want android to just simply be bootable and stable from my sd card. I really don't want to run it all the time as windows mobile is second nature to me now.

Sweeny Russ said:
agreed. I and the majority of the people using windows mobile don't give a **** about google apps. I want android to just simply be bootable and stable from my sd card. I really don't want to run it all the time as windows mobile is second nature to me now.
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I second this.

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G1.. Without Google?!

Hey all, haven't been around in a while.. Just bought a G1, and this had to be my first stop
So I turn it on and it's asking for my Google account. This is all good, but I'm quite attached to my tin foil hat and would rather not have my (losable) phone attached to my online persona.
Is there anyway around this? Or, if I set it up now, can I flash the phone to one of these JF firmwares and avoid Google that way? I've got my own calendar/email setup already, separate from gmail et al.
And you're wondering why I bought a Google phone when I don't want them to have my info.. Well, so am I :/
Thanks
mafro UK
The adp builds let you skip the login process but obviously calendar, gmail, and even the market won't work without your google account. I'd advise you to at least create a phony account for it. You'd want the ADP1.1h image from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475381 to skip it
So the functionality of the phone is seriously impaired without linking to Google's services? If so, then I'm happy using a fake account for getting onto the Marketplace. Gmail isn't needed, but ill have a look at the calendar..
I spose it's worth rooting and then flashing the phone anyway right? Some of the other threads on here suggest it's worthwhile..
Thanks for your help
You want to use the google phone, made for google, running an OS made by google but you don't trust google and don't want to access google services?
Maybe it isn't the phone for you.
It'd be sort of like buying an iPhone but not wanting to use apple services.
If you've just got it I'm sure you can ebay it and get your money back.
Yeah.. that's kinda the point I finished with in my original post :S
Really I wanted a phone which runs Linux, has a keyboard and an SSH client. G1 covers all that - Windows Mobile sucks ass, and I've got an iPod Touch and decided I didnt want the closedness of an iPhone to go with it..
I'm flashing it upto JF 1.41 RC8 now.. Woop
hm. windows mobile doesn't suck ass and it provides all you are searching for.
there are devices with keyboards and there is pocket putty.
you could also get yourself an Universal, put linux on it and you have what you want.
Okay so the "sucks ass" comment is a matter of opinion
I've run with Windows for 3 years now, albeit without a keyboard. Just got fed up of the Start Menu / Settings paradigm.. I want a command prompt!
Anyway, you're right, there are other ways of doing it - the G1 is just the right size for my pocket and I get to play with the Android platform as it matures.. Shame it's all about Google. Just my 2 cents of tin foil.
without google, android would still be nowhere, imho
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without google, android would still be nowhere, imho
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thats kinda like saying windows would be nowhere without microsoft or OSX would be nowhere without apple. it goes without saying :/
erm...wasn't android bought by google?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
Not exactly, android was invented/created by Google in the same manor that windows was created by Microsoft.
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Not exactly, android was invented/created by Google in the same manor that windows was created by Microsoft.
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I guess technically you can say it is similar to how Gates acquired DOS LOL he stole it... and Google paid for android. I think even Google admits to paying for it.
For me having it all integrated into Google is one perks of having a g1. I love having all my info sync online and accessible on any computer I go to.

A few quick questions, if someone has time. Thank you....

Hi everyone,
I am currently a Windows Mobile user, Xperia X1a, and am looking to switch to an Android device sometime soon. Since the Nexus One is on Android 2.1, I figured this would be a good place to ask a few quick questions, if any kind user could help
1) Button mapping -> On Windows Mobile it is possible to map different applications/actions to a button, as well as a different action based on a short click or a long tap/hold. Is there something similar in android? I had trouble finding it in the base 2.1 build in the Android SDK emulator
2) Calendars -> I believe that Android support multiple Calendars on device, unlike Windows Mobile, is this true? Or is it multiple calendars synced to the main Google Calendar in the crowd? (My main issue is I want to sync my work and home calendars as 2 different calendars on the phone, something I have never successfully done through Windows Mobile)
3) Any alternatives to System Seven for syncing OWA email and calendar to the device? System seven only supports email right now
4) Any native app for Google Reader? I currently use SpeeedReader on WM which is not amazing, but gets the job done.... somewhat. Based on all my research even Android has to use the browser to access Google Reader.
5) DivX / Coreplayer/ any real video codec support? WM has Coreplayer, but most devices are too slow/crippled to take advantage of it. Nexus One and others have Snapdragon processor which is better than the current devices.
6) bluetooth handsfree - This appears to be a major problem according to forums and Google Bug tracker. A friend who has got into the vlingo beta for android confirmed that clicking on the "speak now" button enabled him to use the phone completely handsfree. Related to question 1, is there a way to change the bluetooth button to access vlingo app instead of the native app?
7) For a current Windows Mobile dude, who thought he knew most tweaks in WM. Just how hard is the learning curve for Android? (I know its the noobest question of all, but I would like some reassurance /stories to help transition over, I spent 5 years on WM devices )
Thank you so much for your time.
I was in the same situation as you: I've been on winmo for more than 7 yrs and I was dreading the shift. I got my N1 and kept my winmo device at hand and fully functional...only to discover 24hrs later that I totally forgot about it!
Basically, all you can do on winmo, you can do on Android, although sometimes in a slightly different manner and of course a different interface.
Major pros after 3 months of use: besides the hardware (amazing speed), very smooth UI, no need for soft-resets (on WM it was a daily burden), friendly community, rapidly developing apps...
Go for it
I've come from 5 ish years on Windows mobile to Android too, I'll try answer the questions from what I know.
1. Button Mapping -> It's possible to create shortcuts to applications on the phone's "desktop". It's also possible using the "Anycut" app to create specific actions (not used this myself so not sure of details). What I did love was you can create a shortcut to direct dial or direct text someone on your contacts list. Overall I found this much much easier and quicker on Android compared to WinMo.
2. I've only used Google Calendar and, yes, you can sync multiple calendars as they are setup on your desktop Google Calendar. I've found implementation of this is to be really good. If you're currently using Outlook it's possible to sync that to the browser Google Calendar and then to your mobile.
3. Everything works best and smoothest when linked with Gmail and Google Calendar. Afraid I don't know much more about OWA email, hopefully someone else will be along shortly to help on that score.
4. I've only used Google Reader from within the browser, but it's still slick and fast.
5. Don't think there's support for playing DivX yet. I believe Core Player are working on it but it could be some time.
6. Sorry, don't use Bluetooth headsets so can't advise. I think it is possible but sometimes fiddly depending on the headset.
7. For me the learning curve was extremely easy. I never found myself getting frustrated even right from the beginning, the UI to me seems very intuitive. In fact I'd say I was more frustrated with WinMo after 5 years than I was with Android after 5 minutes in terms of trying to figure out what I wanted to do.
Go for it, I think it's so refreshing going from WinMo to Android. Maybe less so going from the iPhone UI to Android because they are in some ways similar but in other ways quite different and you can get confused about which way to do things after being so used to the Apple way.
6. I use 2 different Bluetooth headsets and never had any problem.
The guys above did a pretty good job describing things. This is what i can contribute
1) Yes there is a long press and it allows you to create shortcuts and many other things to the home screens (in general it kind of works like a right click opening menus in many programs). There isn't really button mapping because there aren't buttons, everything is very intuitive.
4) for google reader there are several applications that link up to your subscriptions and will download them to your computer. I personally use newsrob for articles and google listen for podcasts. Both work well and sync with google reader nicely.
6) The only thing i've used bluetooth for was pairing it with the dock and streaming audio. I've never had a problem with that. But I guess that's not all that surprising since the dock was made solely to work with this phone.
Thanks Guys. I think that nearly all the items I asked about without getting a phone myself have been answered.
I suppose it will take months for me to build the kind of knowledge base/app library that I had with Windows Mobile, but keeping in tune with RSS feeds from various sites, I think I have found a tweak/app for nearly everything on Windows Mobile. Max a 1 time conversion is needed for the Call Log/eBooks/ SMS initial backup-synch. Looking forward to a snapdragon device that does NOT take 20 seconds to move from one screen to the next.
I don't suppose there are any other solutions out there for Outlook Web Access email/Calendar syncing, huh?
Thanks again!

[Q] About to jump to Android :)

Devs - I have been following the android development here on and off. I feel I've had enough of WM 6.5 and want to jump over to android. I have been doing lots of reading lately, but am not getting answers to few questions - Please let me know if android supports the following, I'm continuing my research as well
1) Exchange support: My office e-mail is also synced to my HD2. Does Android allow this?
2) Geo-tagging of pictures
3) Do we have any equivalent of Microsoft myphone? It feels good to have all data backed up to the cloud each night.
4) Twitter / Facebook - no worries here. official apps available
5) Compatibilty with MS Office apps? Can we view/edit excel, ppt's and word docs?
6) RSS feed readers? I use the one that comes with Sense
7) Facebook / Contacts integration
8) What is the best way of exporting PIM data (appointments, messages, contacts) from WM and importing it into Android?
9) Do we have complete media support? I have a good collection of songs and movies on my phone now. Also, does android support hardware acceleration for movies like the HTC photos app does?
10) Does GPS and the digital compass work? does the Google maps app on Android make use of the GPS receiver?
More questions as and when they come up.
I am on the following:
ROM version: 1.48.720.2 WWE
Radio version: 2.05.51.05_2
I am running the stock ROM that came with the phone, and I've got only the official hotfixes from the HTC site. Anything else I should be aware of while upgrading?
thanks in advance for all the help!
I have just installed my first android rom and I don't think you are going to get all you are hoping for. Most things work, depending on which build you go for but as I found you only have about half the functionality you get from WM6.5 - not because of the operating system, android is very slick and pretty, but it's the software you've accumulated over the years that makes the difference.
I think if I spent a few weeks accumulating all the apps then things might get close but android feels a little restrictive after so many years using WM.
You are best off trying it, it will run alongside WM with a little effort.
Upgrading to another ROM & radio is your first step, I'm using the latest stock 3.14 with no problem. Format a fresh SD card and start to load it, make sure all your WM apps are shut as windows exits very fast.
I have to say that the browser in android is the best I have ever seen on any device, flash works, videos play, browsing is almost the same as a desktop - it makes WM look it's age.
1. Yup, Ecxchange ActiveSync is part of android.
2. I've never really used it on Darkstone's FroyoStone, but it's part of the settings in the camera, and it activates the GPS.. So I guess so.
3. I use Gmail. It syncs mail, contacts and calendar. Really haven't searched for anything else, since I used gmail in WinMo.
4. You said it, man.
5. No idea.
6. Plenty on the market, and lots of them are free.
7. Works like a charm, and imho better than WinMo.
8. Again, I used Gmail. It doesn't export messages, but that didn't bother me.
9. No idea.
10. Yes. I'm having a feeling that sometimes my digital compass is acting a little weird, but I'm not sure. Maybe its my sense of orientation thats a little weird
I must say that I feel the exact opposite of boomboomer, android doesnt feel the slightest restrictive to me. The android OS as a whole took a couple of days to get used to, but the plethora of possibilities available just in the android market seems just awesome to me. I spend two days on finding the equivalent WinMo apps on the android market, and stumbled upon a lot more awesome apps in the process. (Even found my beloved Chuck Norris app!
But I do agree on the browser. It really is lightning fast!
You can use Sprite Migrate to move contacts and anything else from WM to Android. Ill post the steps later is necessary but you should be able to just Google it.
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1. Yup, Ecxchange ActiveSync is part of android.
2. I've never really used it on Darkstone's FroyoStone, but it's part of the settings in the camera, and it activates the GPS.. So I guess so.
3. I use Gmail. It syncs mail, contacts and calendar. Really haven't searched for anything else, since I used gmail in WinMo.
4. You said it, man.
5. No idea.
6. Plenty on the market, and lots of them are free.
7. Works like a charm, and imho better than WinMo.
8. Again, I used Gmail. It doesn't export messages, but that didn't bother me.
9. No idea.
10. Yes. I'm having a feeling that sometimes my digital compass is acting a little weird, but I'm not sure. Maybe its my sense of orientation thats a little weird
I must say that I feel the exact opposite of boomboomer, android doesnt feel the slightest restrictive to me. The android OS as a whole took a couple of days to get used to, but the plethora of possibilities available just in the android market seems just awesome to me. I spend two days on finding the equivalent WinMo apps on the android market, and stumbled upon a lot more awesome apps in the process. (Even found my beloved Chuck Norris app!
But I do agree on the browser. It really is lightning fast!
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boomboomer said:
I have just installed my first android rom and I don't think you are going to get all you are hoping for. Most things work, depending on which build you go for but as I found you only have about half the functionality you get from WM6.5 - not because of the operating system, android is very slick and pretty, but it's the software you've accumulated over the years that makes the difference.
I think if I spent a few weeks accumulating all the apps then things might get close but android feels a little restrictive after so many years using WM.
You are best off trying it, it will run alongside WM with a little effort.
Upgrading to another ROM & radio is your first step, I'm using the latest stock 3.14 with no problem. Format a fresh SD card and start to load it, make sure all your WM apps are shut as windows exits very fast.
I have to say that the browser in android is the best I have ever seen on any device, flash works, videos play, browsing is almost the same as a desktop - it makes WM look it's age.
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Yes all of those things are functional in hyperdroid 1.6. This is what I run. I have posted my directions here. Easy to follow:
http://leoandroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=212&t=168
Thanks everyone for your feedback.
@ Klovnecaspar - how do you sync messages and pics to the cloud? gmail takes care of contacts, mails and appointments
@Zynro - Thanks. I will try it out.
@AMCjungle - Looks like a pretty detailed procedure. I don't have a T mobile HD2. It's a T8585 model. Would there be any change in the procedure?
Okay. I've made the jump. Installed the stock 3.14 ROM followed by the darkstone froyo build. Everything's good so far, still setting up everything ....
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Don't hesitate to post your feelings about it when you get used to android... I loved wm, but use android on my hd2 for months and honestly I can't go back.
My first tips are:
don't use a task killer it will be counter productive
Use an alternative home, launcher pro is highly recommended
For a business use, calendar widgets like pure calendar and pure grid calendar are very readable and customizable
Titanium backup is able to backup all your programs and their data on your sd card. You can after upload them in a dropbox account. Indispensable in case you have a problem or want to change build
For editing office files, the best I found is documents to go. Give it a try its great.
The only drawback I found is that you can't sync your notes with onenote. There are some great apps for notes that can sync to cloud like catch but I prefer use a simple text document with the powerful search features of the file editor Astro.
Oh for playing videos rockplayer is free, and play all kind of videos without a glitch, even with subtitles if you want.
hope that will help your experience
Wow...thanks a ton...will get titanium backup asap.
I've started to encounter the data corruption issue...missing files some of them appear in the "lost. dir" folder.
Another issue is with the data connection...it drops intermittently ans I have to switch on the airplane mode and then turn it off to restore the connection.
Any thoughts?
Overall, it has been a fabulous experience. It would be wonderful if HTC released an official rom for the hd2
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WP7 Installed, activated, live working, sd formatted, Android coexists... now?

As soon as i discovered I could give WP7 a try on my HD2, i started all the process...
Now it works i activated the live account and everything is ok.
I also succeded in having android still booting from the on purpose formatted SD, and i choose from magldr the desired OS.
Now... what?
I mean, WP7 seems incredibly smooth and i would like to go deeper in it, but i find myself lost.
here are my questions, being used to working with wm 6,5 and android :
1) How do i get my contacts/tasks/appointmentsback on the phone from outlook on pc ?
2) Is it possible to use the IGO8 Wm 6,5 version here with WP7?
3) how do you use the phone as an AP (wifi , usb or BT tether)?
BUT, ABOVE ALL ...
where do i find all the needed app?
I mean, the market seems tailored only to make you spend money.
There a lot of music file to download, but where are free apps?
In the Android Market you have a plethora of free apps, but i cannot find free apps for WP7 in its market, i only see apps to buy...
How can i have my Hd2 / WP7 ready to a daily use, comparable with android?
where are simple useful apps like
tapatalk, a nav, layar, wikitude, news and highlights, dictionaries, comic readers...
how can i customize the home screen like the easy android widget way?
I think i am missing something, it is my first dive into WP7 sea, so if an expert Wp7 lifeguard lends a hand, i would really appreciate any advice...
thanks in advance.
To answer your second question. No you won't be able to run any of your current Navigational software on WP7. From what i've gathered, there is currently no good paid for app for it. So no Copilot, TomTom, IGO.
It's the only thing keeping me from changing over to it actually.
WP7
Market Place is the best place to go. Search xda to find other apps, there are entire sections deticated to apps on this site. The only problem with installing from places other than the market place is that your phone has to be unlocked. If the app is not an Official app, meaning it can be found on the Market Place, then sooner or later will run into an error message requesting that you uninstall the app. This because your phone automatically locks itself after a while. You can fix by unlocking the phone again, but you will have to keep doing it everytime you want to run or install unsigned apps. If you want free apps, swipe left to the free apps section in market place.
Windows Mobile apps are not supported on WP7. You can get T-Mobile TelNav from market place, just search for it keyword tmobile
Search windowsphone.com for support setting up and syncing outlook.
No tether or wi-fi support available yet, at least none has been mentioned by anybody yet.
As for those apps you are looking for, chances are they are not on WP7 as of yet. But to make sure, search Market Place for them. To do so follow these steps: When in market place press the Home key. This will open Market Place search. (Outside of market place this key will open bing search)
For customizations go to windowsphone.com for guides and tutorials on how to use the phone and customize.
Most questions about windows phone 7 can be answered by searching or going to windowsphone.com
1) How do i get my contacts/tasks/appointmentsback on the phone from outlook on pc ?
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Just setup a liveid or exchange account. easy as hell and you should have seen this while booting the phone for the first time. Once you setup the account everything will be sincronized.
2) Is it possible to use the IGO8 Wm 6,5 version here with WP7?
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no. i read somewhere theres a gps software available but not sure which one. Major companies are still developing their softwares for wp7.
3) how do you use the phone as an AP (wifi , usb or BT tether)?
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cant right now. operators dont want period. theres a hack for samsung focus i think which enables you to use wp7 as ap. not sure about other phones, softwares or if theres already something available for this task.
BUT, ABOVE ALL ...
where do i find all the needed app?
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first. make sure your country has support for marketplace.
start marketplace -> click apps -> slide right -> click ALL -> slide right 3 times till u reach FREE.
you should see a list with lots of good free apps to download. You can also use bing to search through all the list. Check bing visual search. its really good.
where are simple useful apps like
tapatalk, a nav, layar, wikitude, news and highlights, dictionaries, comic readers...
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check marketplace. theres already 6k apps available for download/buy but you have to remember wp7 is still young. it was release few months ago you have to be patient and wait for the softwares to appear. iphone / android didnt get 100k apps in 1 day and compared to android market wp7 marketplace is growing faster.
how can i customize the home screen like the easy android widget way?
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just click and hold to remove/add etc whatever you want on the start screen.
sorry for my english
bnlf said:
Just setup a liveid or exchange account. easy as hell and you should have seen this while booting the phone for the first time. Once you setup the account everything will be sincronized.
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ok, but i hate sending my private data to an external server, i like usb (local) sync.
is there a way?
no. i read somewhere theres a gps software available but not sure which one. Major companies are still developing their softwares for wp7.
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so, no working nav... ok
cant right now. operators dont want period. theres a hack for samsung focus i think which enables you to use wp7 as ap. not sure about other phones, softwares or if theres already something available for this task.
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so, this will be the only OS not offering this simple and useful service...
first. make sure your country has support for marketplace.
start marketplace -> click apps -> slide right -> click ALL -> slide right 3 times till u reach FREE.
you should see a list with lots of good free apps to download. You can also use bing to search through all the list. Check bing visual search. its really good.
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i'll try, but i am really beginning to think that android is the future while this wp7 seems only a "new past" (if you understand what i mean).
thanx 4 the answer mate, very clarifing
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To answer your second question. No you won't be able to run any of your current Navigational software on WP7. From what i've gathered, there is currently no good paid for app for it. So no Copilot, TomTom, IGO.
It's the only thing keeping me from changing over to it actually.
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I am dual booting WP7 and Desire Z, I use co-pilot from Desire Z.
I have the same question about contact elsewhere but no responses.
I have separate contacts on my hd2 and hotmail and wish to keep them separate.
When you register your hotmail on wp7 it automatically downloads all 700 contact which I don't want in my phone.
My hd2 is synced with outlook but I don't think you can sync wp7 with outlook.
I had an omnia 7 for a week and returned it keeping my hd2
Reluctant to flash to wp7 nit I know I can move my 300 phone contacts over.
Non tethering is a real pain. HTC did confirm to my directly that the HD7 does support tethering but the function has been removed by the operators
aenedor said:
I am dual booting WP7 and Desire Z, I use co-pilot from Desire Z.
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thanks . care to share how u did it ? is ur android sd build ?
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thanks . care to share how u did it ? is ur android sd build ?
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It is a SD build, it is Dandiest's Desire Z 2.1 (the 2.2 fix / update caused it to lock up when mounting the SD card YMMV).
I followed this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815 and the post it links to because at the time I could only mount one SD card at a time via my HD2.
I recomend reading the whole post and the post it links to several times before starting, I rushed into it and as a result made mistakes by not following the instructions properly, what should have taken 2-3 hours (mounting 1 SD card at a time) took nearer 8 LOL! cause I kept redoing steps until I realised how / where I was doing them wrong. This was last Sunday.
EDIT: I have a 16 gig class 6 SD card and an 8 gig SD class 6 card, I used the 8 GIG initially when installing MAGLDR and WP7 then following the instructions above transfered the WP7 partition to the 16 GIG card. This gave me a smidging under 8 gig for WP7 and a smidging under 8 gig for Android, not huge but not too shabby neither. I see you can buy 32 gig cards now, but the fast ones cost £80 so that is something for my future
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I have the same question about contact elsewhere but no responses.
I have separate contacts on my hd2 and hotmail and wish to keep them separate.
When you register your hotmail on wp7 it automatically downloads all 700 contact which I don't want in my phone.
My hd2 is synced with outlook but I don't think you can sync wp7 with outlook.
I had an omnia 7 for a week and returned it keeping my hd2
Reluctant to flash to wp7 nit I know I can move my 300 phone contacts over.
Non tethering is a real pain. HTC did confirm to my directly that the HD7 does support tethering but the function has been removed by the operators
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You can go to Settings, Email & Accounts, click on the accounts and uncheck contacts, except for hotmail. Go figure. But I think you can sync with outlook using exchange server directly, if not sync using exchange with google and sync outlook with google as well.

Install WP7 from Mac

So here is my question. Is it even possible to put WP7 on the HD2 with a Mac computer?
I dont have bootcamp because i dont have the disk space, or the windows disk. Nor do i really want to put windows on my computer.
I have been running android for a few months, and I am interested in trying WP7.
How do I go about doing this?
Must I have a windows computer?
use virtual box to install windows XP, the only thing im not 100% sure on is if a forwarded USB port will allow flashing, ive had 32-bit IrDA devices work on a 32-bit guest of a 64 bit host so theres a good chance it will, guess there is only one way to find out, it will either connect or it wont, shouldnt be any issues, unless it doesnt work
Let us know how you get on
oh if your low on disk space just get a 8GB flash drive and dump the virtual machine files on that, it will slow things down somewhat so it might be worth considering having two flash drives, one for the virtual machine one for the WP7 install files, unless of course your able to share a folder from your Mac to your VM
Do you all think it's worth getting rid of android and go to WP7
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That depends on a couple of things
First and formost, do you have an SD card that will work with WP7, without that the answer is no, even a mostly working card can give you random resets
beyond that you need to conside a couple of other things
Do you want a OS that you can mod the crap out of, install 1000s of apps which may or may not work or do you want an OS that just works, works very quick (with compatible SD card) and less apps but is solid as a rock.
finally do you play multitouch games, if you do dont bother, the HD2 doesnt handle them well, WP7 does, its just our hardware.
its your choice, but all i would say is, IF you have a compatible SD card give it a try for at least a few weeks, really get involved with it, emails, FB, live, exchage, zune etc, if you dont like it after a few weeks then fair doos, most of the folk who slag it dont give it a chance, it is not android, it in not WM, its not iOS, its WP7 an thats what its living up to, nothing else.
read through this thread to give you a hand in seeing if your SD cards will work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171895
there isnt a compatible list but if you run a test on an existing card theres a good chance we can tell before you install it if it will be worth it
When I first got the phone a few months ago i had WP7 on it, so I know the SD card works.
I changed it out for Android, but that was before NoDo or Mango, so i dont even know what improvements are there.
I loved alot of features about it, but it just seemed to be lacking some. I dont know what changes came with Mango or NoDo for it to be worth it.
Battery drain was my biggest issue. With WP7 it seemed like 5 hours and the battery was done.
Since its my primary phone, its alot of work to switch to WP7, and back to android loosing everything in the process. Its a pain to type in all the contacts over and over again.
Just wanted to add one more thing.
99.99% of what I use my phone for is organizational.
With that I mean I use my phone for calendar planning big time.
I currently have my HD2 with android syncing my google calendar to my ical at home and work.
Heres the draw. I wont have my google calendar for much longer, which will leave me with no way to really sync anything from my Mac to my phone.
if there is a solution that WP7 can give me, thats a plus!
Setup a live account, or transfer everything to an exchange account, you shouldnt have to type any contacts, most things can now be transfered quite easily
The calander is pretty good, i use it for my work and personal email, the blue entries are work, orange personal, the To-Do list is really handy.
Nodo brought bugger all, everyone was jumping up an down about the lack of copy and paste so Nodo brought it in, and in all honesty ive maybe used it 3-4 times. Mango will bring a big change, my advice to you is to leave it for a while until a RTM version of mango gets put on our HD2, at the mo its Beta, and Betas always have a bunch of code in it that will slow things down. Hold fire, setup a live account wait for Mango RTM and go for it.
Note that you dont need to change your email address, just use the live account / exchange (pop3) account to bridge your contacts and calanders, it will mean having to sync your live account with your current one, in an ideal world you would use an exchange account or live, that way it just "works" google is actually pretty good too, that can be imported in to it without much hassle as well.
oh the battery should last about a day depending on the state of your battery, i use it a lot and i can just get a day, no more. theres a few tricks you can use to help extend the life.
When is a mango release set? I have a live account. But live can't sync with my ical on my Mac. So it's looking like this may not work for me.
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When is a mango release set? I have a live account. But live can't sync with my ical on my Mac. So it's looking like this may not work for me.
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you need a way of exporting it, im not all that clued up on macs but surely they have some way of exporting stuff in to something like a CSV
They do but I want it to sync automatically. Right now my ical syncs every 15 mins. I'm away on business this week and my wife added something to the calendar an it update my phone and office calendar
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