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Android / Mogul / Google Apps sync

I know that people are working on developing the Android platform for other phone, what I am wondering is this: will we ever be able to sync our google apps with the mogul (or any other phone) without running Android?
What I am wondering is this; I am using an exchange server right now, but come January/Febuary I am not going to have that option available anymore, so I was wondering if we will be able to sync our google apps at some point without having an Android phone...
I don't know much about hacking or the developement that goes into customizing Android, but it would seem like it would be possible to lift whatever part of the Android os that is being used for syncing the google apps, so that it could be used on other devices. It seems like this would be possible just like taking off touch flo, or any other built in program (I know it probably isn't quite that simple, I was just trying to explain my concept of things).
Will this be possible? Will we be limited to haveing a phone with Android os for this?

I know there isn't mass support for google apps on WM but there is the gmail Java App, which i use. I don't use this, but i know its out there, and its an app to sync your google calender with your WinMo calendar. I'll see if i can spot it and drop a link for you here.

parrott84 said:
will we ever be able to sync our google apps with the mogul (or any other phone) without running Android??
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who uses google 'apps'? lol. google.com is good for searching, and that's about it. all their side software has never impressed me or been usefull.

agreed. I and the majority of the people using windows mobile don't give a **** about google apps. I want android to just simply be bootable and stable from my sd card. I really don't want to run it all the time as windows mobile is second nature to me now.

Sweeny Russ said:
agreed. I and the majority of the people using windows mobile don't give a **** about google apps. I want android to just simply be bootable and stable from my sd card. I really don't want to run it all the time as windows mobile is second nature to me now.
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I second this.

THinking about moving to android, few questions...

Hi guys and gals,
Im thinking about moving from WinMo to Android. I was thinking about selling my Touch Pro 2 and buying the Galaxy S I9000, while waiting for the real treat Epic 4G come to Europe.
If you could help me with few questions...
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com... I want to sync with Outlook via usb; contacts, calendar and tasks... Is there good sync software out there?
The main reason for me to have a brick for a cell phone, is that I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
To me its also important to automatically sync folders while syncing with Outlook, any good programs for that? Ive been using MobSync with WinMo and I guess it could work with this too? I found also Microsoft SyncToy, never tried it though...
Can I get my tasks listed on Android today screen like on WinMo? I need to have be reminded of my tasks, otherwise I would spend ½ of my day reading at XDA and not doing any of the things Im supposed to do...
Any comments and help is appreciated... Thanks!

i'm myself a WinMob convert.
I also use myOwnInsertDomainNameHere.com for my own business, however i use google apps, and i control my domain via Google.
Google Apps is free and easy to use, you gain all the great benefits, you should consider switching.
You can still use your own Exchange or whatever server you happend to be running, it doesn;t really matter, you don't really need Google to use Android
but using Google, will make the convert a heck of a lot easier, else you'll need to figure out a way to export / import your contact list to your new android phone.
by far the best and easiest way to sync contacts between WinMob and Android is via Google Contacts
you do not need Google Apps for that, just a generic Gmail Account.

Loco5150 said:
This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
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It comes with ThinkOffice, which is pretty much the same as Docs to go.

AllGamer said:
you'll need to figure out a way to export / import your contact list to your new android phone.
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I found HTC Sync, but it seems only to sync contacts and calendar.. I read that it should work on Galaxy too. Cant test it as I havent bought the phone yet.
The more I read in to this the more I get the feeling Android is not for me. I really hate any company trying to force me to do anything.

Loco5150 said:
I found HTC Sync, but it seems only to sync contacts and calendar.. I read that it should work on Galaxy too. Cant test it as I havent bought the phone yet.
The more I read in to this the more I get the feeling Android is not for me. I really hate any company trying to force me to do anything.
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Htc sync works with samsung galaxy s too? Do you have a link to where you saw that? This is one area that piss me off a great deal, that I'm not able to sync my contact and calendar to my outlook on my PC. Had to manually reenter my calendar each time I do a hard reset now, and not all my contact records go over so now I only have partial picture. I have no intention of handing over my private data to the cloud.

http://androidforums.com/samsung-i7500/10804-htc-sync.html
I donwloaded htc_sync_2.0.33, found it right away with google. If you cant find it send me a PM and ill send you the link.

Samsung galaxy is not the same phone as galaxy S, but still it looks promising. Ive no idea how to make it work though.

if you use outlook a lot, you might find that samsung kies is not very good. It have a lot of problem connecting to your phone, let alone syncing with Outlook.

I would assume that if HTC Sync works with one Samsung Android phone it works with this one too...
Android seems like an nice operating system, but I aint about to transfer all my life to google. Im little paranoid like that, I dont think its a good thing to have a company in control of wast ammounts of people's personal stuff.
Dont get me wrong. I have no secrets and I know if someone wanted to they can get my data just as easily even if Im using myowndomain.com, but just the thought that so many people have their personal stuff at Google's servers make me feel little uneasy. Who knows what they decide to do with them in the future.

Glad you're not sleeping. How your calendar and contact could be used?
How about:
- government forcing google to hand this data to them, to find out what you were doing via your calendar?
- criminal taking the personal details of your friends and steal their identity, then commit all sorts of crime with it?
Syncing over the cloud is okay for business I guess. For personal use? No thanks. Nothing to do with whether I've anything to hide.

Yeah and you don’t even need to think about it on the personal level…
The thought of one company having the personal emails, appointments, contacts and everything of millions and millions of people makes me sick. Maybe even whereabouts (using Google maps! Haven’t looked at it, but I would assume they have the access to this info too)
Just knowing the greed people have, I see this type of thing bring problems in the future. Im not saying Google has a hidden agenda now, but who knows what and who will be running the operations in 15 years or something.
I don’t mind Google selling their operating system that has an option to use their services, but when they make it mandatory, there’s a problem.

Even if google is really not evil, what's there to stop evil people from hacking into their server? Google couldn't stop the Chinese and Russians from doing that in the past, and certainly won't be able to in the future.

I have a winning bid on Galaxy S closing soon... I made it yesterday before really reading about the android enough... I kind of hope that I wont win it, I probably only have to sell it if I do.
But if not android then what? WinMo7 seems to be a failure in many ways what I have read about it (which is not much though have to admit and I could be wrong)
I really hope Nokia gets their act back together and make their Symbian^3 / Symbian^4 operating systems GOOD... I read that Nokia made a deal with Microsoft to start having Office on Nokia phones, that with the real FREE navigation (Google maps is not free navigation, you need data, when out of your own country your better off hiring a personal chauffeur). If Nokia makes good hardware with the things mentioned above, they could be on their way again... If not, I dont know... The idea of using WimMo 6.5 much longer does not feel like a reasonable choice either.

Uhhhh, I am the proud owner of a new Galaxy S

Loco5150 said:
Uhhhh, I am the proud owner of a new Galaxy S
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Congrats! and welcome to the club
yes, WM7 sucks big time, i saw videos of it, it was all over the news yesterday.
and WM6.5 is not that great either if your device is already on WM6.1 it's just some interface change, and API coding change.

Nobody dares to suggest the most obvious option which I'm taking?

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Nobody dares to suggest the most obvious option which I'm taking?
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Please do..?

Loco5150 said:
Please do..?
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Haha. You know that will start a war here. Just check all my previous posts.

Haha ok, iPhone... Well I want to use Office and also like I wrote before, I definitely want a HV keyboard and was just thinking of getting Galaxy S as a temporary phone before getting the Epic 4g when it arrives to europe.
Im not a MAC person... I feel their products are mainly for people who really dont know how to use computers etc. I bought an iPod for my girlfried for x-mas sometime ago... I dont get that, it makes you to sync everything with itunes, haha, well I would prefer drag n drop the album I want to my player. Now that she's getting annoyed by iPod/iTunes all her albums are in iTunes and i dont know can she get them back to normal mp3 anymore.
I think this is so funny and there is a small truth in it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg

Congratulations for winning the bid anyway, hope you like it. BTW, have you really owned all those truckloads of phones before ? Hahaha, which one had the longest life?

[Q] About to jump to Android :)

Devs - I have been following the android development here on and off. I feel I've had enough of WM 6.5 and want to jump over to android. I have been doing lots of reading lately, but am not getting answers to few questions - Please let me know if android supports the following, I'm continuing my research as well
1) Exchange support: My office e-mail is also synced to my HD2. Does Android allow this?
2) Geo-tagging of pictures
3) Do we have any equivalent of Microsoft myphone? It feels good to have all data backed up to the cloud each night.
4) Twitter / Facebook - no worries here. official apps available
5) Compatibilty with MS Office apps? Can we view/edit excel, ppt's and word docs?
6) RSS feed readers? I use the one that comes with Sense
7) Facebook / Contacts integration
8) What is the best way of exporting PIM data (appointments, messages, contacts) from WM and importing it into Android?
9) Do we have complete media support? I have a good collection of songs and movies on my phone now. Also, does android support hardware acceleration for movies like the HTC photos app does?
10) Does GPS and the digital compass work? does the Google maps app on Android make use of the GPS receiver?
More questions as and when they come up.
I am on the following:
ROM version: 1.48.720.2 WWE
Radio version: 2.05.51.05_2
I am running the stock ROM that came with the phone, and I've got only the official hotfixes from the HTC site. Anything else I should be aware of while upgrading?
thanks in advance for all the help!

I have just installed my first android rom and I don't think you are going to get all you are hoping for. Most things work, depending on which build you go for but as I found you only have about half the functionality you get from WM6.5 - not because of the operating system, android is very slick and pretty, but it's the software you've accumulated over the years that makes the difference.
I think if I spent a few weeks accumulating all the apps then things might get close but android feels a little restrictive after so many years using WM.
You are best off trying it, it will run alongside WM with a little effort.
Upgrading to another ROM & radio is your first step, I'm using the latest stock 3.14 with no problem. Format a fresh SD card and start to load it, make sure all your WM apps are shut as windows exits very fast.
I have to say that the browser in android is the best I have ever seen on any device, flash works, videos play, browsing is almost the same as a desktop - it makes WM look it's age.

1. Yup, Ecxchange ActiveSync is part of android.
2. I've never really used it on Darkstone's FroyoStone, but it's part of the settings in the camera, and it activates the GPS.. So I guess so.
3. I use Gmail. It syncs mail, contacts and calendar. Really haven't searched for anything else, since I used gmail in WinMo.
4. You said it, man.
5. No idea.
6. Plenty on the market, and lots of them are free.
7. Works like a charm, and imho better than WinMo.
8. Again, I used Gmail. It doesn't export messages, but that didn't bother me.
9. No idea.
10. Yes. I'm having a feeling that sometimes my digital compass is acting a little weird, but I'm not sure. Maybe its my sense of orientation thats a little weird
I must say that I feel the exact opposite of boomboomer, android doesnt feel the slightest restrictive to me. The android OS as a whole took a couple of days to get used to, but the plethora of possibilities available just in the android market seems just awesome to me. I spend two days on finding the equivalent WinMo apps on the android market, and stumbled upon a lot more awesome apps in the process. (Even found my beloved Chuck Norris app!
But I do agree on the browser. It really is lightning fast!

You can use Sprite Migrate to move contacts and anything else from WM to Android. Ill post the steps later is necessary but you should be able to just Google it.
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Klovnecaspar said:
1. Yup, Ecxchange ActiveSync is part of android.
2. I've never really used it on Darkstone's FroyoStone, but it's part of the settings in the camera, and it activates the GPS.. So I guess so.
3. I use Gmail. It syncs mail, contacts and calendar. Really haven't searched for anything else, since I used gmail in WinMo.
4. You said it, man.
5. No idea.
6. Plenty on the market, and lots of them are free.
7. Works like a charm, and imho better than WinMo.
8. Again, I used Gmail. It doesn't export messages, but that didn't bother me.
9. No idea.
10. Yes. I'm having a feeling that sometimes my digital compass is acting a little weird, but I'm not sure. Maybe its my sense of orientation thats a little weird
I must say that I feel the exact opposite of boomboomer, android doesnt feel the slightest restrictive to me. The android OS as a whole took a couple of days to get used to, but the plethora of possibilities available just in the android market seems just awesome to me. I spend two days on finding the equivalent WinMo apps on the android market, and stumbled upon a lot more awesome apps in the process. (Even found my beloved Chuck Norris app!
But I do agree on the browser. It really is lightning fast!
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boomboomer said:
I have just installed my first android rom and I don't think you are going to get all you are hoping for. Most things work, depending on which build you go for but as I found you only have about half the functionality you get from WM6.5 - not because of the operating system, android is very slick and pretty, but it's the software you've accumulated over the years that makes the difference.
I think if I spent a few weeks accumulating all the apps then things might get close but android feels a little restrictive after so many years using WM.
You are best off trying it, it will run alongside WM with a little effort.
Upgrading to another ROM & radio is your first step, I'm using the latest stock 3.14 with no problem. Format a fresh SD card and start to load it, make sure all your WM apps are shut as windows exits very fast.
I have to say that the browser in android is the best I have ever seen on any device, flash works, videos play, browsing is almost the same as a desktop - it makes WM look it's age.
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Yes all of those things are functional in hyperdroid 1.6. This is what I run. I have posted my directions here. Easy to follow:
http://leoandroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=212&t=168

Thanks everyone for your feedback.
@ Klovnecaspar - how do you sync messages and pics to the cloud? gmail takes care of contacts, mails and appointments
@Zynro - Thanks. I will try it out.
@AMCjungle - Looks like a pretty detailed procedure. I don't have a T mobile HD2. It's a T8585 model. Would there be any change in the procedure?

Okay. I've made the jump. Installed the stock 3.14 ROM followed by the darkstone froyo build. Everything's good so far, still setting up everything ....
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Don't hesitate to post your feelings about it when you get used to android... I loved wm, but use android on my hd2 for months and honestly I can't go back.
My first tips are:
don't use a task killer it will be counter productive
Use an alternative home, launcher pro is highly recommended
For a business use, calendar widgets like pure calendar and pure grid calendar are very readable and customizable
Titanium backup is able to backup all your programs and their data on your sd card. You can after upload them in a dropbox account. Indispensable in case you have a problem or want to change build
For editing office files, the best I found is documents to go. Give it a try its great.
The only drawback I found is that you can't sync your notes with onenote. There are some great apps for notes that can sync to cloud like catch but I prefer use a simple text document with the powerful search features of the file editor Astro.
Oh for playing videos rockplayer is free, and play all kind of videos without a glitch, even with subtitles if you want.
hope that will help your experience

Wow...thanks a ton...will get titanium backup asap.
I've started to encounter the data corruption issue...missing files some of them appear in the "lost. dir" folder.
Another issue is with the data connection...it drops intermittently ans I have to switch on the airplane mode and then turn it off to restore the connection.
Any thoughts?
Overall, it has been a fabulous experience. It would be wonderful if HTC released an official rom for the hd2
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

WP7 Installed, activated, live working, sd formatted, Android coexists... now?

As soon as i discovered I could give WP7 a try on my HD2, i started all the process...
Now it works i activated the live account and everything is ok.
I also succeded in having android still booting from the on purpose formatted SD, and i choose from magldr the desired OS.
Now... what?
I mean, WP7 seems incredibly smooth and i would like to go deeper in it, but i find myself lost.
here are my questions, being used to working with wm 6,5 and android :
1) How do i get my contacts/tasks/appointmentsback on the phone from outlook on pc ?
2) Is it possible to use the IGO8 Wm 6,5 version here with WP7?
3) how do you use the phone as an AP (wifi , usb or BT tether)?
BUT, ABOVE ALL ...
where do i find all the needed app?
I mean, the market seems tailored only to make you spend money.
There a lot of music file to download, but where are free apps?
In the Android Market you have a plethora of free apps, but i cannot find free apps for WP7 in its market, i only see apps to buy...
How can i have my Hd2 / WP7 ready to a daily use, comparable with android?
where are simple useful apps like
tapatalk, a nav, layar, wikitude, news and highlights, dictionaries, comic readers...
how can i customize the home screen like the easy android widget way?
I think i am missing something, it is my first dive into WP7 sea, so if an expert Wp7 lifeguard lends a hand, i would really appreciate any advice...
thanks in advance.

To answer your second question. No you won't be able to run any of your current Navigational software on WP7. From what i've gathered, there is currently no good paid for app for it. So no Copilot, TomTom, IGO.
It's the only thing keeping me from changing over to it actually.

WP7
Market Place is the best place to go. Search xda to find other apps, there are entire sections deticated to apps on this site. The only problem with installing from places other than the market place is that your phone has to be unlocked. If the app is not an Official app, meaning it can be found on the Market Place, then sooner or later will run into an error message requesting that you uninstall the app. This because your phone automatically locks itself after a while. You can fix by unlocking the phone again, but you will have to keep doing it everytime you want to run or install unsigned apps. If you want free apps, swipe left to the free apps section in market place.
Windows Mobile apps are not supported on WP7. You can get T-Mobile TelNav from market place, just search for it keyword tmobile
Search windowsphone.com for support setting up and syncing outlook.
No tether or wi-fi support available yet, at least none has been mentioned by anybody yet.
As for those apps you are looking for, chances are they are not on WP7 as of yet. But to make sure, search Market Place for them. To do so follow these steps: When in market place press the Home key. This will open Market Place search. (Outside of market place this key will open bing search)
For customizations go to windowsphone.com for guides and tutorials on how to use the phone and customize.
Most questions about windows phone 7 can be answered by searching or going to windowsphone.com

1) How do i get my contacts/tasks/appointmentsback on the phone from outlook on pc ?
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Just setup a liveid or exchange account. easy as hell and you should have seen this while booting the phone for the first time. Once you setup the account everything will be sincronized.
2) Is it possible to use the IGO8 Wm 6,5 version here with WP7?
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no. i read somewhere theres a gps software available but not sure which one. Major companies are still developing their softwares for wp7.
3) how do you use the phone as an AP (wifi , usb or BT tether)?
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cant right now. operators dont want period. theres a hack for samsung focus i think which enables you to use wp7 as ap. not sure about other phones, softwares or if theres already something available for this task.
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where do i find all the needed app?
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first. make sure your country has support for marketplace.
start marketplace -> click apps -> slide right -> click ALL -> slide right 3 times till u reach FREE.
you should see a list with lots of good free apps to download. You can also use bing to search through all the list. Check bing visual search. its really good.
where are simple useful apps like
tapatalk, a nav, layar, wikitude, news and highlights, dictionaries, comic readers...
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check marketplace. theres already 6k apps available for download/buy but you have to remember wp7 is still young. it was release few months ago you have to be patient and wait for the softwares to appear. iphone / android didnt get 100k apps in 1 day and compared to android market wp7 marketplace is growing faster.
how can i customize the home screen like the easy android widget way?
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just click and hold to remove/add etc whatever you want on the start screen.
sorry for my english

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Just setup a liveid or exchange account. easy as hell and you should have seen this while booting the phone for the first time. Once you setup the account everything will be sincronized.
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ok, but i hate sending my private data to an external server, i like usb (local) sync.
is there a way?
no. i read somewhere theres a gps software available but not sure which one. Major companies are still developing their softwares for wp7.
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so, no working nav... ok
cant right now. operators dont want period. theres a hack for samsung focus i think which enables you to use wp7 as ap. not sure about other phones, softwares or if theres already something available for this task.
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so, this will be the only OS not offering this simple and useful service...
first. make sure your country has support for marketplace.
start marketplace -> click apps -> slide right -> click ALL -> slide right 3 times till u reach FREE.
you should see a list with lots of good free apps to download. You can also use bing to search through all the list. Check bing visual search. its really good.
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i'll try, but i am really beginning to think that android is the future while this wp7 seems only a "new past" (if you understand what i mean).
thanx 4 the answer mate, very clarifing

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To answer your second question. No you won't be able to run any of your current Navigational software on WP7. From what i've gathered, there is currently no good paid for app for it. So no Copilot, TomTom, IGO.
It's the only thing keeping me from changing over to it actually.
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I am dual booting WP7 and Desire Z, I use co-pilot from Desire Z.

I have the same question about contact elsewhere but no responses.
I have separate contacts on my hd2 and hotmail and wish to keep them separate.
When you register your hotmail on wp7 it automatically downloads all 700 contact which I don't want in my phone.
My hd2 is synced with outlook but I don't think you can sync wp7 with outlook.
I had an omnia 7 for a week and returned it keeping my hd2
Reluctant to flash to wp7 nit I know I can move my 300 phone contacts over.
Non tethering is a real pain. HTC did confirm to my directly that the HD7 does support tethering but the function has been removed by the operators

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I am dual booting WP7 and Desire Z, I use co-pilot from Desire Z.
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thanks . care to share how u did it ? is ur android sd build ?

pool7979 said:
thanks . care to share how u did it ? is ur android sd build ?
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It is a SD build, it is Dandiest's Desire Z 2.1 (the 2.2 fix / update caused it to lock up when mounting the SD card YMMV).
I followed this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815 and the post it links to because at the time I could only mount one SD card at a time via my HD2.
I recomend reading the whole post and the post it links to several times before starting, I rushed into it and as a result made mistakes by not following the instructions properly, what should have taken 2-3 hours (mounting 1 SD card at a time) took nearer 8 LOL! cause I kept redoing steps until I realised how / where I was doing them wrong. This was last Sunday.
EDIT: I have a 16 gig class 6 SD card and an 8 gig SD class 6 card, I used the 8 GIG initially when installing MAGLDR and WP7 then following the instructions above transfered the WP7 partition to the 16 GIG card. This gave me a smidging under 8 gig for WP7 and a smidging under 8 gig for Android, not huge but not too shabby neither. I see you can buy 32 gig cards now, but the fast ones cost £80 so that is something for my future

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I have the same question about contact elsewhere but no responses.
I have separate contacts on my hd2 and hotmail and wish to keep them separate.
When you register your hotmail on wp7 it automatically downloads all 700 contact which I don't want in my phone.
My hd2 is synced with outlook but I don't think you can sync wp7 with outlook.
I had an omnia 7 for a week and returned it keeping my hd2
Reluctant to flash to wp7 nit I know I can move my 300 phone contacts over.
Non tethering is a real pain. HTC did confirm to my directly that the HD7 does support tethering but the function has been removed by the operators
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You can go to Settings, Email & Accounts, click on the accounts and uncheck contacts, except for hotmail. Go figure. But I think you can sync with outlook using exchange server directly, if not sync using exchange with google and sync outlook with google as well.

Windows Phone 7... Really????

So after all the hype, the troubles getting an activation code, and then installing WP7 on my HD2, I sit here waiting for my Android DesireHD Nand build to finish re-installing on my device.
I thank the community so much, as I was so obsessed with getting WP7 (i've been a fan of Microsoft's os since my dell axim days) that I was even planning on upgrading my contract early just to get an HD7.
But the truth is.. in which way is this better than WM 6.5?? After two minutes in on this OS i sat there thinking to myself: "Really!!??" Oh wait this is how the dude who made the new Windows Phone commercial got the idea...
Just my two cents.

fair point..
It just depends on what you want to get out of it.
Android may work better for your needs now, WP7 with a bit of development may work for you better in the future.
I tried android for a few months a while back (the SD card builds) and liked it initially but then I found it couldn't do everything I wanted in 6.5. The lack of an equivilant to Softmaker was important.
Granted WP7 cant do anywhere near what 6.5 could (lacking of decent office apps like softmaker) but it does what it does very well. Right now i'm enjoying the ride - It reminds me when I first started palying around with my SPV C500

i had very poor expectations, im a heavy WM6.5 user and i ran Android of SD as a general intrest but since ive got WP7 ive found myself thinking, you know what, it works, it works well, its quick and i dont have this urge to mod the crap out of it.
The only thing WP7 on HD2 lacks is a decent camera app.
Above that, i suppose there is a couple of programs i need from WM which is a real pain, i really think that WP7 needs some kind of advanced mode, every day joe via the carriers wouldnt need it but a hidden setting could open it up for us, that way MS keeps its image, its identity to the world and we get that wee bit more freedom we all want, that setting would apply to business users that may need more access, and again, by checking that option MS removes all responsibility from anything that goes wrong, everyone wins!

Most people just want a phone that just works and it is easy to work with. And I think WP7 is very easy to use, and will appeal to the masses.

Need to say more??? wp7 is easy to use, user frienldy and....AWESOME...
I also love Android because you can customize it, many apps and more! But there is something with wp7 that makes me horny!
Just stick around with WP7 and i think it wont dissapoint you!

i have to agree with most of the positive comments here ... i only tried wp7 out of curiosity and just because our beloved hd2 can!! i was pleasantly surprised at the speed and usability. i love the nice clean interface especially the mail client. sure it lacks a lot of apps at the moment but surprisingly i the angry birds withdrawal symptom went away faster than i expected and i'm finding it hard to go back to android even though i do have it on as dual boot.

Actually the only things I really miss from WM6.5/Android are:
1. Choice of browsers. IE Mobile is fine but some sites are not dispaying properly. Opera usually fixes this in WM6.5 and Android.
2. Some sort of Skype, but I guess this is coming soon to WP7 anyway.
3. Ability to attach any sort of file to e-mails. I'm still to figure out how I can attach and send a PDF i downloaded through the browser
Other than that WP7 has many pluses:
1. Excellent e-mail client. By far the best out there on ANY smartphone.
2. Best Office experience out there.
3. Mind blowing games
4. Very neat and clean interface.
5. It's fast and furious.

TheOnly1 said:
Actually the only things I really miss from WM6.5/Android are:
1. Choice of browsers. IE Mobile is fine but some sites are not dispaying properly. Opera usually fixes this in WM6.5 and Android.
2. Some sort of Skype, but I guess this is coming soon to WP7 anyway.
3. Ability to attach any sort of file to e-mails. I'm still to figure out how I can attach and send a PDF i downloaded through the browser
Other than that WP7 has many pluses:
1. Excellent e-mail client. By far the best out there on ANY smartphone.
2. Best Office experience out there.
3. Mind blowing games
4. Very neat and clean interface.
5. It's fast and furious.
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Nicely said dude!

Yeah I agree with most of this.
WP7 is slick, and i really like the basic functions.
WP7
+dialer/txt/email
+Zune
+presentation
-slow to load apps
-hardly any apps and the price of apps is high (no skype, no Nav, no flash, no XDA)
-having to reload apps, (no multitasking)
-browser isn't recognised as mobile a lot of the time
- that tile list is going to get very long once more apps come

Agreed. Nice, clean and simple. Reminds us that it doesn't always have to be about 300 different (mostly unnecessary) apps and all the other bells and whistles but a nice simple and effective interface. Wasn't too sure about it at first but it's definitely growing on me!

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1. Nav = Navigon Select. Works very fine

I agree with the possetive comments too
but the minuses :
there's no GPS and that sucks (hope to find some)
No greats APPs that I love like WhatsAPP, Waze, Skype...
and Not a big fan of the Camera.
But... And this is A Big but...
The OS is Awesome!!! the speed, the clean, the beauty

I'm tempted... but
Is there any solution that's working for WiFi tethering? Is there a multi-client IM app? I also would prefer that there was a better way than through the browser to access gmail and google voice, but I doubt we'll ever see a native app for either of those.
I may load it when I have a couple of days to play just for general interest though.

You don't need a "native" Gmail client. Outlook handles Gmail more than fine and delivers it as push mail if you wish so. WP7 syncs also with Google Calender and GMail Contacts, so switching forth and back between WP7 and Android is very pleasent as all your contacts and appointments are instantly there
I was shocked to see how well WP7 supports Google services

Pros:
WP7 is FAST
Love the GUI
Love integration of social stuff
Zune
Xbox Live
Most of the apps I need are there and are better than anywhere else (Twitter, RSS, Facebook, Ebay etc.)
Games are good
Cons:
Absence of smart dialer!
USB drive! (there is no legal way how to get 55MB pdf to the device)
No data backup!
No multitasking for in app downloads etc (coming)
More customization (backgrounds, ringtones)
****ed up syncing with live (I have horrible problems with my main Live ID)
Poor contacts management (no groups, no favorites)
Absence of some apps (Zinio, proper turn by turn, flash) - they are coming, and I understand, that this is normal with new OS:
I love WP7 and am sticking with it. For me, there is more pros than cons. Everything Windows phone does, it does right. MS just needs to bring us the stuff that WP currently doesnt do

I have been using WP7 since it was made available for HD2 and I love it. Very fast and clean UI.

I agree with everything you have here. Its actually kind of nice to have a OS that just works. I haven't restarted my phone in almost 3 wks now. Microsoft really needs to step up with their Bing turn-by-turn directions and new hardware. If HTC comes out with better hardware for Tmobile soon I will definitely upgrade to windows phone 7.

Wp7 is ok but it really needs a better browser! I'm back to android only because of missing flash and the bad browser experience
Edit: the locked down OS is another no go for me. I need usb storage and teetering.

I prefer WP7 over Android because it offers proxy setting right out of the box. To me Android is just a fancier Windows Mobile. And I quite like the smoothness of IE though I wish it would handle more than 6 tabs.

chumaj001 said:
Cons:
Absence of smart dialer!
USB drive! (there is no legal way how to get 55MB pdf to the device) even The OS is not legal, so you should be fine with the illegal way
No data backup! Coming soon with the next update prob.
No multitasking for in app downloads etc (can be done with 3rd party soon)
More customization (backgrounds, ringtones) with chevron you can
****ed up syncing with live (I have horrible problems with my main Live ID) Only with you
Poor contacts management (no groups, no favorites)
Absence of some apps (Zinio, proper turn by turn, flash) - they are coming, and I understand, that this is normal with new OS:
I love WP7 and am sticking with it. For me, there is more pros than cons. Everything Windows phone does, it does right. MS just needs to bring us the stuff that WP currently doesnt do
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I <3 WP7 forever