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No Flash 10 on Hero?

Just came across this,saying that the Hero wont support Flash 10.What do you think about that?

WHAT?
Well, that sucks ass >.> What are we suppose to do? Maybe one of our awesome devs can work on it when the issue comes up. *waits for toast to read this* LOL

no biggie, by the time it comes out, I will be able to upgrade and hopefully will get the rumored supersonic!!

Just because they say the hero won't be supported doesn't mean we won't have it.. lol

Oh I know we'll have it.
Just curious on peoples thoughts as to whether it'll be able to run.Guess we'll just have to wait and see till one of these brainiacs get ahold of it and see what they can do.

casperlt1 said:
Oh I know we'll have it.
Just curious on peoples thoughts as to whether it'll be able to run.Guess we'll just have to wait and see till one of these brainiacs get ahold of it and see what they can do.
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i like that adobe already knows its going to cause battery issues lol

I thought the battery drain was negligible. I read an article yesterday on engadget saying that they streamed about 3 hours of video on a nexus one. The article made it sound like it wasn't a battery hog.

yeah your right, that guy above you didn't read the article right haha

ko0pa11 said:
yeah your right, that guy above you didn't read the article right haha
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yea but adobe knows we'll have it Wonder if they're just trying to deter us...lol

I can honestly say that I couldnt care less. I dont play flash games. Youtube has its own app (though it currently doesnt work in the 1.5 OS), and HULU blocks mobile connections. So....what is left to use flash for....the thousands upon thousands of ads dancing across nearly every web page and bragging rights against Apples Iphone. No thanks Adobe, I can live without your crap software.

troyboytn said:
I can honestly say that I couldnt care less. I dont play flash games. Youtube has its own app (though it currently doesnt work in the 1.5 OS), and HULU blocks mobile connections. So....what is left to use flash for....the thousands upon thousands of ads dancing across nearly every web page and bragging rights against Apples Iphone. No thanks Adobe, I can live without your crap software.
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Point well made..

I don't think the battery will be an issue. I think the CPU is just too slow.

jonnythan said:
I don't think the battery will be an issue. I think the CPU is just too slow.
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Agreed,but man,wheres the love for us who purchased the Hero not too long ago...

casperlt1 said:
Agreed,but man,wheres the love for us who purchased the Hero not too long ago...
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Just read Palm is updating the Pre WebOS today via OTA. Among the changes is support for Flash 10. Doesn't say it'll work on the Pre, just supported.

roundaway said:
Just read Palm is updating the Pre WebOS today via OTA. Among the changes is support for Flash 10. Doesn't say it'll work on the Pre, just supported.
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It says Flash 10 will be available in the app store soon.
The Pre has much more robust hardware than the Hero.

Flash 10 would be rather useful in some cases, i know personally i would like to listen HoNcast videos while im at work without loading down my network at work. Boss doesn't like that...by the time we get flash 10...flash 11 or 12 might be out and id still be boned...but i can always hope for the best ha ha

we should
port android to the damn pre so we could have basically a droid... except my hero gets a much better signal compared to the damn pre....

I think it sucks. A lot of false promises with this phone. I feel like a beta tester
If anything my thought is that Sprint should allow another upgrade for Hero users. This phone has never worked at 100% since I got it. It's issue after issue.

I have to agree that, while I love this phone, it was definetely produced in a very incomplete state. It's really BS that HTC made the Nexus One not three months later and it has twice the hardware, plus a flash for the camera. WTF?

The hero has to have flash, it was the first phone with flash lite! Also, I'm sure that a developer will get it *looks at toast* if it 'isn't supported' and show them .

Adobe Fails Once Again

http://phandroid.com/2010/04/15/android-to-see-flash-10-1-in-second-half-of-2010/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/adobe-brings-air-to-android-promises-flash-10-1-in-the-first-ha/
Idiots.
I almost hope HTML5 takes off due to how they keep stringing people along. First it was end of 2009, then Q1 2010, then Q2 2010, now second half. FFS come on.

Yeah I also can't forgive Adobe how it bought Macromedia. Such a bright collection of developers that was.
Now, this clumsy giant Adobe is controlling Flash, Dreamweaver.. and everything's going down the drain.

html5.0 is already working... some guys tested it.. i saw it in this forum... search to find more....
Try this on the web browser http://mugtug.com/sketchpad/
http://www.projekktor.com/

Count me in as someone that is starting to hate Adobe.
They have been straight up lying.
I'm also beginning to think the only platform they care about is the iPhone and that they are using us as a proxy in their battle with Apple.
I mean, does anyone believe they are going to get Flash working on Blackberry?
They are just full of lies, imo.
I don't even know if those demos we've seen on the Nexus are even real now.

faraz1992 said:
html5.0 is already working... some guys tested it.. i saw it in this forum... search to find more....
Try this on the web browser http://mugtug.com/sketchpad/
http://www.projekktor.com/
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I just tried it on Cyanogen 5.0.5.3 and sketchpad loaded, but wouldn't let me do anything and Projekktor told me that the video type wasn't supported by this device.

faraz1992 said:
html5.0 is already working... some guys tested it.. i saw it in this forum... search to find more....
Try this on the web browser http://mugtug.com/sketchpad/
http://www.projekktor.com/
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I don't mean HTML5 working on Android. I mean the internet en masse switching over / adopting HTML5 over Flash. Right now HTML5 is powering 2% of the internet's websites.

Pathetic...along with it goes any chance Android has of stealing iPhone thunder mid year.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt ,count me in as a hater.
Much as I realize Flash aint going anywhere soon I hate Adobe.

Paul22000 said:
I don't mean HTML5 working on Android. I mean the internet en masse switching over / adopting HTML5 over Flash. Right now HTML5 is powering 2% of the internet's websites.
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Worked on Dolphin. although i wasn't able to draw (I guess a cursor is needed, it just kept moving the screen), I saw the whole layout and was able to select the different tools/colors.

Seriously? I bet Google is fuming mad right now! Adobe talked them into holding the joint press confrence at MWC, and now Google looks like a bunch of shmucks along with them! That was my one reason for believing it would actually come on time, since they were able to get Google to do the joint press confrence with them and what not.
Adobe is officially on my list.

Fcku Abode!!!!!

To use the cliche: "epic fail."
Not too surprised seeing how the RC was just released for the desktop version, and as such I wouldn't expect the mobile version to come until after the desktop version hits the market.
Stupid move by Adobe UNLESS they are using the time to actually streamline the platform. It's possible that they're doing that, and hopefully they are.
I don't think XHTML/HTML 5 will be the way of the future in regards to all web content just yet. Perhaps for video, but there is plenty of content out there that is Flash-based that isn't video.

Count me in. They said in 2009 that its gonna be out in early 2010. Yeah right...
I gave up on the idea of having flash player on my nexus.
FU Adobe!

lorin.bute said:
Count me in. They said in 2009 that its gonna be out in early 2010. Yeah right...
I gave up on the idea of having flash player on my nexus.
FU Adobe!
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Im good with the crippled Flash 10.1 (do the Lite versions even get official names?) Lite on my Desire ROM, its good enough for now. I have a laptop anyways, and I don't exactly plan on viewing much flash content regardless. If anything it would only be when I'm bored..

Even if you don't need it, its still nice to have it. There are sites like engadget, for example, that post videos on vimeo. You cant see those on the nexus. And that one thing annoys me. I want flash player just for that.

Claims of WP7 from Tom_Codon march 2010

Well were coming up to to the month milestone of when Tom dropped the news of having WP7 running on his HD2.
I know I will get flamed for this, but I am niave and a part of me still despite no real proof being given, is hoping.
It would be great if we got some news/proof at the end of this month.
Seg

da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho

please people, let it go....nobody was gonna get wp7 on the hd2 before the news and so there is no difference if it was all a lie...
that said, i do belive in it, reputable people have said its true. just enjoy the damn device and when wp7 comes, it will come, and i would like to see a thread with all the non belivers apologising

I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know some good reputable ppl have clearly stated that its true. I am not doubting them for a minute. I personally expected to hear or see something else since the initial statement. I do enjoy my device, I just love trying new things.
The conversation surrounding this, had died a little lately, so I thought I would spark up some more interesting conversation/debate.
Seg
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Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
Cheers

chris5932 said:
Thats my oppinion.. but seems there is nothing you can do besides wait.
Cheers
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I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I know mate. Thats the hardest part, waiting. Even more so, with no more information.
Seg
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I do feel the same way, totaly
It's in a way like christmas when I was young besides.. you knew when it would be
// I btw don't think this is leading us anywhere..

But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.

domineus said:
da_g and chainfire have stated this exists....
that's plenty of proof in my book imho
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I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.

the_cool said:
But thats just it, how can you EXPECT something from somebody when they dont owe you anything? you can expect customer service from HTC, or expect an official statement from HTC about wp7 (which we got), but you cant expect news about someones personal project...you arent paying them, they are doing it out the kindness of the heart and the passion they have for this phone...
well thats my opinion for example...i fix my friend's and family's computers from time to time for no charge. nobody can expect me to fix it in any reasonable time frame, nor even even expect it to be fixed at all, even if i say i can. if they do, then its really unnappretiative and its quite hurtful. alot of people did ***** about the videos of wp7 on the hd2, if it was me, i wouldnt even bother giving it to anyone, just on the fact that so many people grinded me down about it.
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I think you have mis-interpreted my use of the the word "Expected" by this I meant "Hoped" or "Thought"
I do agree with you though, they don't owe us anything, and after the slagging off that some guys gave them, I would say F off to everyone.
Seg

ah ok, well yeh one can hope for it, thats all good! even i hope for it! well actually i dunno, when they said wp6 and wm6.5 isnt interchangeable made me decide not to go with wp7. but still, id love to see it! but even if they lied (which i keep stressing i dont think they are!), i wouldnt think less of them, none of us are really gettin affected and we have got alot from them anyway with wm6.5

ozkaya said:
I know that there is written record of da_g saying that. Is there one for Chainfire also? I thought that was just an unrecorded chat.
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yeah I asked him last week in a podcast he visited on ppcgeeks...said a lot including a test rom for tg01 which also makes a lot of sense. I've said on htcpedia that I wouldn't be surprised the devices we see in the fall are very similar to devices released LAST year with minor improvements in hardware (if that)
If the htc touch hd2 and the g01 were the true test devices that wp7 was based on, then as a developer I'd just go hey why do I need to make a new device? Use the old internals and I have a wp7 device. I think for early devices that's what is going to happen but again that's just my speculation on htc and toshiba. Dell et al probably have devices built from the ground up...
I mean I want to try wp7 too and its looking better and more fluid every single day that gives me hope that microsoft has made a better "coded" os that when unlocked will actually be more open than the devices we have right now. To get to that point will take time, but that's what xda is for. I mean zune hd is hacked, I expect wp7 to be hacked too. just depends on time and devices
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hoping this conversation remains civil because so far no flames no claims of it was publicity and I said on htcpedia again why does a site like that need publicity it averages in US daytime 250 members per hour! late night 125! a site like that doesn't need real advertising.
We can't say its an april fool either that's come and gone. so the only other logical outcome is that it exists there are some issues (lo and behold tom said there were graphics issues)
so I am waiting enjoying wp 6.5

Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
Does anyone actually know Tom or Da_G or ITJE? Could they ask them for an update? Anything is better than nothing.
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I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
Cheers

chris5932 said:
I asked Itje a while ago, he doesn't know anything and told me that it is all up to tom and his team.
Cheers
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I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
Seg

Seg2009 said:
I sent tom a message through pedia site, but he never got back to me, but there again, why would he? he doesn't know me from Adam.
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I don't think your the only one who did so, myb hes still working down the list
Tom is the guy this is about.. no information from him or his team -> no information at all.. thats what is seems to be like
Since I don't know anyone to talk to him or one of his team members close, we can only wait and any disscusion is senseless.
Cheers

I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.

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I just don't see the draw towards WM7. I stopped using the iPhone because the locked down environment... even after jailbreaking. WM6.5 w/ Sense is the BEST OS and GUI that I've used on a phone. It has usability elements while retaining the functionality of WM. It seems to me that M$ is moving backwards.
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Im with you 100% on that statement. I feel like M$ is turning into Apple.

I don't understand why you are talking like this actually..
Sure, WP7 is locked down OS with many disadvantages, I agree with that!
BUT it brings lots of new features and its going to have full flash support etc.
it's not all bad.. basically this whole thing is not part of this discussion!
This is about WP7 on hd2 which was claimed to be real by tom.
Cheers

Apart from the HD2 WP7 exists/doesn't exist...
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I don't get why there isn't any news from tom_codon or any other people and why they aren't releasing it..
Sincerely, I'm not understanding why tom_codon gave the news of WP7 on HD2.
I mean... okay, WP7 HD2 ROM does exist, noone apart tom_codon and some other people has got it, but why are you saying to all that it does exist if you can't/don't want to release it?
It's not so mature and smart in a community where all is shared and that lives on the ROM sharing to say "I've got WP7! But you won't get it! Hah!!"........ am I wrong?

wow, still no official 2.2?

Getting kinda hard to believe that they were this close to releasing the consumer version of 2.2- and still no dice. With this kind of delay I really hope they have added a few surprises. With that being said, my only change would be to allow custom colors of the notification bar (hint, black) and custom color track ball colors. With these improvements I would have no reason to root....
Peace.

I changed maybe a dozen lines in my build.prop and this thing might as well be final. My phone is faster, more stable, and has more features than with the "current" official build. I'm content to sit tight and recommend you do the same

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Getting kinda hard to believe that they were this close to releasing the consumer version of 2.2- and still no dice. With this kind of delay I really hope they have added a few surprises. With that being said, my only change would be to allow custom colors of the notification bar (hint, black) and custom color track ball colors. With these improvements I would have no reason to root....
Peace.
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Where did you read from a Official Google Press release that one was close?

Google has stated that hey are working quite hard on Froyo, and making sure all the kinks are ironed out before the official release. I read this in my news reader, and therefore do not feel like going back to grab it. Rest assured, they are actually trying.
Edit: Never mind, found it:
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/06/...tm_campaign=Feed:+androidguyscom+(AndroidGuys)

Eclair~ said:
Google has stated that hey are working quite hard on Froyo, and making sure all the kinks are ironed out before the official release. Rest assured, they are actually trying.
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NEVER underestimate how much freedom sitting behind a computer allows a whiner to cry like a baby about things they have no control over...
If we were all in a classroom and they kept whining about Froyo like they do online, we would just kick the sh*t out of them to shut them up

I cant believe how so many people are impatient for 2.2. It's not owed to you. It releases whenever it releases. If it does not, oh well, you still have a great phone. Getting a free 2.2 upgrade is just an added bonus on top of what you have.

For build.prop need root right? Debating going back after my swap put me on 2.1 again

The FRF50 build that was leak was barely put together.
In three weeks they have moved 19 new builds. FRF69 is the latest.
They were never "close to release".

In my opinion Google has LIFETIME immunity from complaints for being such a generous company and making Google Maps Navigation free...
Take as long as you want Google

JCopernicus said:
The FRF50 build that was leak was barely put together.
In three weeks they have moved 19 new builds. FRF69 is the latest.
They were never "close to release".
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Where have you got this info about "FRF69" being the latest build? Why haven't I seen it here?

Ya **** off dude. You'll get out before everyone who doesn't have a nexus. Chill.

denimjunkie82 said:
I cant believe how so many people are impatient for 2.2. It's not owed to you. It releases whenever it releases. If it does not, oh well, you still have a great phone. Getting a free 2.2 upgrade is just an added bonus on top of what you have.
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I'd expect this kind of attitude from an iPhone user and not some one in the Android camp.
The Android platform is still young and needs to evolve a lot more, especially in UI refinement to become a mainstay mobile platform. Updating Android to 2.2 is not an 'added bonus', it's a necessary incremental evolution if Google is to compete with Apple, Palm/HP and RIM.

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Where have you got this info about "FRF69" being the latest build? Why haven't I seen it here?
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Yeah... answer to this question please.

Courtesy and respect go a long way. One other thing. Nothing you get from google is free. It charges for its services and the products you buy have those costs built in. Maps is not free, nav is not free, you pay for it every day every time you buy a product. There is no free cup of coffee. Ever. Corporations are in it to make money and nothing else. Google is not your friend, nothing they output sees the light of day unless they believe the profit is there. They fully plan on getting their pound of flesh and we owe them nothing. Anyone who thinks otherwise has yet to attain their 14th birthday.

I'm running FRF50 now and it's good. I'd love a final, but I'd rather see 2.2 on as many different devices as possible. For as much as I want 2.2... I want everyone to get it more. I've seen people stuck on 1.5 and 1.6, it's scarey
Second... where can I get this frf69 build??

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I'm running FRF50 now and it's good. I'd love a final, but I'd rather see 2.2 on as many different devices as possible. For as much as I want 2.2... I want everyone to get it more. I've seen people stuck on 1.5 and 1.6, it's scarey
Second... where can I get this frf69 build??
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its on queen latiffa's github..

I am not going to lie, I am starting to get pretty impatient with this crap... i miss so many of the features i could have back on 2.1 that i am almost ready to roll back... not to mention that I got my brand new 16gig chip that i want to put in this thing but i dont want to deal with reinstalling all of my apps twice...
I am still getting the issue where my cpu throttles up for no reason as well which is annoying enough to reinstall... lol

clickwir said:
I'm running FRF50 now and it's good. I'd love a final, but I'd rather see 2.2 on as many different devices as possible. For as much as I want 2.2... I want everyone to get it more. I've seen people stuck on 1.5 and 1.6, it's scarey
Second... where can I get this frf69 build??
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69 is passe.
72 is the new hotness.

JHaste said:
I am not going to lie, I am starting to get pretty impatient with this crap... i miss so many of the features i could have back on 2.1 that i am almost ready to roll back... not to mention that I got my brand new 16gig chip that i want to put in this thing but i dont want to deal with reinstalling all of my apps twice...
I am still getting the issue where my cpu throttles up for no reason as well which is annoying enough to reinstall... lol
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Then nandroid, and go back to 2.1. 2.2 is obviously not official yet. It will be released soon though, and I have a feeling it will include a lot of hidden features. Perhaps they sent the current 2.2 as a BETA for people like us to test. We say "I like it, but I want ____ feature" and maybe they will add it in the official release. Who knows.
But don't complain about it.
JCopernicus, if there is such build as one past the current FRF50, then go ahead and point us in the direction? If you're lying, shut up and leave.

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Any major difference between FRF50 and FRF72?

ICS is here (sort off)

Saw a post on theverge, someone has ported ICS to transformer and making this the first tablet with a ics-port.
Much is not working, there is a youtube link in the artikle: http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/21/...fficial?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I am going to wait until ASUS throws the official update my way, but just a few glimpses makes me giddy.
The browser loaded a web page instantly!
Really excited to see where it goes next.

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The browser loaded a web page instantly!
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While that does appear promising, bear in mind that ICS doesn't handle Flash content yet. I would not be surprised to see performance take a huge hit once Flash is enabled.

as long as it does not make us a html5 cripple im happy

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While that does appear promising, bear in mind that ICS doesn't handle Flash content yet. I would not be surprised to see performance take a huge hit once Flash is enabled.
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Do people really care about flash? I get by just fine with flash blocked in my desktop browser, and I'M thinking of removing it from my phone because I just don't use it.
A far as I can tell, Flash on mobile has just been a marketing exercise.
I'm much more interested in finding out how purple have their TF101 dev environments set up so I can try building my own...
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..aaaaand I've just found out that I don't even have Flash installed on my phone anyway. I guess I won't miss it on ICS then...
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we have html5 screw flash
Who is the dev behind this ??
Is he going to share at some point??
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Hmmm, I see the name 'Bumbledroid' who was also developing roms for the Advent Vega... Excellent developer if you ask me, this is his twitter:
http://twitter.com/#!/BumbleDroid

Criminy that browser's fast. And Flash can always be turned off, so I've never understood the complaints about a performance hit.

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Criminy that browser's fast. And Flash can always be turned off, so I've never understood the complaints about a performance hit.
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Yep, and likewise you can load flash for one specific element with a simple tap, so it's actually preferable to leaving it switched on, if you ask me. Quicker page download, and less annoying, flashing ads...
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Yep, and likewise you can load flash for one specific element with a simple tap, so it's actually preferable to leaving it switched on, if you ask me. Quicker page download, and less annoying, flashing ads...
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Looks pretty fast, although another video elsewhere suggests to me that home page swipe still isn't quite as smooth as the iPad 2. (Not surprising, as Apple customized their proc to include dedicated processes for specific functions, and I'd bet swiping is one of them.)
I'd like to see Photoshop Touch on the Prime -- that could really take advantage of the processor power!

I want flash, I like to play flash games on my transformer. I like that "tubes" for adults works great (only red have issues). I want it, even if browser with this plug-in is slower.

Flash is dead... adobe announced on 11 November they are stopping development of it on mobile devices to concentrate on html5... so why bother to build something obsolete into ICS? Sod it! Maybe apple were right all along :-(
Adobe blog here
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
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Holy **** shut up about Flash. Adobe isn't making it for mobile devices anymore. We will still have it, and many people still need it. I'm tired of like 30% of the threads in this forum contain people either *****ing about the lack of flash or being delusional enough to believe flash is useless on mobile.
ICS will get flash. So will Jellybean and other newer firmwares. No one, and I do mean absolutely no one, gives a **** about whether you want flash or whether you don't want flash.
With that said, the browser is insanely fast. That isn't just because flash is disabled, it's an actual increase in rendering time (along with a few tricks to convince you it's instant).

Gary13579 said:
Holy **** shut up about Flash. Adobe isn't making it for mobile devices anymore. We will still have it, and many people still need it. I'm tired of like 30% of the threads in this forum contain people either *****ing about the lack of flash or being delusional enough to believe flash is useless on mobile.
ICS will get flash. So will Jellybean and other newer firmwares. No one, and I do mean absolutely no one, gives a **** about whether you want flash or whether you don't want flash.
With that said, the browser is insanely fast. That isn't just because flash is disabled, it's an actual increase in rendering time (along with a few tricks to convince you it's instant).
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Woah! Steady up ol' fella.... don't get upset.... and I think you probably mean the rendering time is decreased or the rendering speed is increased ;-)
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Woah! Steady up ol' fella.... don't get upset.... and I think you probably mean the rendering time is decreased or the rendering speed is increased ;-)
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I'm not upset, merely annoyed, I naturally tend to swear a lot. Yes, I meant decreased. It looks faster than honeycomb, but it also only displays the page after it's fully rendered, which is known to cause a difference in appeared loading time.

stinky73 said:
Flash is dead... adobe announced on 11 November they are stopping development of it on mobile devices to concentrate on html5... so why bother to build something obsolete into ICS? Sod it! Maybe apple were right all along :-(
Adobe blog here
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
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That's for mobile only, and even if Adobe kills it off on the desktop, it will take a period of several years at the least before it largely dies out online. Apple sheeple may be willing to accept partial web access during those years; Android users aren't. We want, expect, and almost certainly will get flash on Ice Cream Sandwich.

http://m.androidcentral.com/adobe-flash-player-111-coming-galaxy-nexus-end-year
Assuming this means all of ics ......
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I seriously can't wait for ICS on my phone and shiny new tablet! It'll be great to have them both running the same version of Android, especially if AOSP builds can be used just as well on the TF as Asus' official builds.

stinky73 said:
Flash is dead... adobe announced on 11 November they are stopping development of it on mobile devices to concentrate on html5... so why bother to build something obsolete into ICS? Sod it! Maybe apple were right all along :-(
Adobe blog here
http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
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Um...? That is only partially true. If you're going to give facts, you should give ALL the facts. That way it won't look like a one-sided story.
I guess the fact that Adobe PLANS to bring flash to ICS doesn't matter? And don't you think by the time HTML5 comes out, Jelly Bean would be ready?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/244405/adobe_flash_for_ice_cream_sandwich_by_yearend.html