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No Hero 2.1 anytime soon.

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Well at least we got a leak.....

What the hell are you talking about man!?!?!
We are getting it on the 10th!
And the 13th! and again on the 29th!
And then they are putting out a 2.2 Hero update in memory of that Baby seal Austin kicked and killed

Don't be mad! there are less than 48 hours till Eeyore's birthday! No one can be mad at a time like this!

Look, they just decided to wait till 3.0 gets released, it'll much better.....

Thats for 2.0. We're waiting on 2.1.

oh man, another one of these threads lol.can't wait to see where this one goes

who gives a rats ass about 2.1 anyways. im still rocking a super fast 1.5 setup!

Ok....So looking at that it says Android 2.0...
Last I heard we were getting 2.1......
Enough of this thread...
Why make another thread
Here are 4 more.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649641
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=643011
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=662634
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663662
PLEASE DELETE

lol
i agree im rocking a super fast 1.5 build with out all the stoopid audio issues lol no offense to any rom dev you guys rock, i just happen to have to worst hero that doesnt play nice with anybodys roms, but im using fresh kitchen and i got my own rom with 150mb free its sick

The larger point, to me, is this: we can never, ever, count on Sprint for our upgrades. They will always be 6 months behind a remotely tolerable upgrade schedule.
I'm not at all saying "don't buy Sprint", I'm very happy with them. I'm just saying "the community is what matters". Your upgrades come from XDA.

Demoyo23 said:
i agree im rocking a super fast 1.5 build with out all the stoopid audio issues lol no offense to any rom dev you guys rock, i just happen to have to worst hero that doesnt play nice with anybodys roms, but im using fresh kitchen and i got my own rom with 150mb free its sick
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The only reason i want a official release, is so i can use fresh kitchen & make 2.1 roms.

5tr4t4 said:
The larger point, to me, is this: we can never, ever, count on Sprint for our upgrades. They will always be 6 months behind a remotely tolerable upgrade schedule.
I'm not at all saying "don't buy Sprint", I'm very happy with them. I'm just saying "the community is what matters". Your upgrades come from XDA.
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you mean leaks come from xda. myself id rather wait until the final comes out and the devs get their hands on it.

I know I will never run the OTA update, the only reason I'll care is if the devs can make a better rom out of it, but I doubt it will make too much of a difference. the 2.1's we got pretty much have everything working already.

It will not be an ota update. It will be an over the wire update from the "training" materials.

My hope is that when the official 2.1 comes out, some of these little quirks will be gone. For example, an overclocked rom with a working camera would be great.

fixxxer2008 said:
who gives a rats ass about 2.1 anyways. im still rocking a super fast 1.5 setup!
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I bet you like feel like really awesome

No date yet, but...

Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.

Oh, really? Should that make me excited?

Are you being sarcastic?

Yes. We need a sub-forum for 2.1 release news/theories.

This makes what, 150 2.1 release threads?

All I was doing was trying to help by giving an ACTUAL update rather than a rumor, and even stated there was no official release set. Not sure what bit you in the ass.

yet ANOTHER useless post about 2.1

entropism said:
All I was doing was trying to help by giving an ACTUAL update rather than a rumor, and even stated there was no official release set. Not sure what bit you in the ass.
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The same thing that bit everyone else in the ass, I guess.

Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
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thank you ...for the info...
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Guys lay off him... Anyway, I don't care about the official Sprint update anymore aside from the fact that it'll help devs. I'm happy with my DamageControl with JIT enabled

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Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
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Ignore the crap replies. Thank you for your first-person, factual update on the release.

Yes, thanks for the update!
Please keep them coming as you hear or see more!

I wasn't intending anything negative to the OP, just the fact that there are already hundreds of threads that this could have been put in. Thank you for the info though.

we already have 2.1 and all the goodies we need. im just waiting to see the " 2.6.29 source is released" thread!!!! then i can finally go to bed before 3am again

mrcharlesiv said:
I wasn't intending anything negative to the OP, just the fact that there are already hundreds of threads that this could have been put in. Thank you for the info though.
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this has nothing to do with the date of the release. he was providing factual information.
thank you

Thank you for the update. It is appreciated. This definitely deserved a new thread.
Some of us are looking forward to 2.1 roms without random audio problems, etc. The official Sprint release will instantly mean an enormous number of fixes for the roms that everyone here uses (nearly all of which were based on the Sprint leak anyway). So we most certainly do not "already have 2.1 and all the goodies we need" from my perspective.

entropism said:
Just for the record, Sprint had everyone take the Android 2.1 training today, update should be soon.
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another 2.1 thread OMG!! what a jackass! i hate you. haha just kidding just seems like every one got super pissed and i wanted to jump on the hate wagon. its not you we hate tho its 2.1.

I guess I fall in line with the first few replies... we already knew training was coming soon and release is in May according to Sprint Documents. What more did we need to know? This thread only says exactly what has been stated 100 times this week. Thanks..
Edit: It's not that I hate the info.. I just feel like this could be posted under any of the other 20 recent 2.1 threads scattered across the next 10 pages.

mrcharlesiv, completely offtopic, but i love your avatar. have it as a tattoo on my chest. going to any of the concerts this summer? They stop in Ft. Lauderdale in 2 days!

Sawawa said:
Thank you for the update. It is appreciated. This definitely deserved a new thread.
Some of us are looking forward to 2.1 roms without random audio problems, etc. The official Sprint release will instantly mean an enormous number of fixes for the roms that everyone here uses (nearly all of which were based on the Sprint leak anyway). So we most certainly do not "already have 2.1 and all the goodies we need" from my perspective.
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Agreed. Even the most stable of the 2.1 ROMs based on the Sprint leak, are still pretty buggy. In my opinion, the leak that all of our ROMs are based on is nowhere near final code. I will honestly be happy to have a stock, fully functional ROM with some minor speed tweaks. To date, I still think Gumbo 1.5c was the best Hero ROM, I just can't bring myself to go back to 1.5. I just love some of the 2.1 features and apps too much.

Does anyone else here feel... empty?

Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.

Darch is still here, Regaw is still here. Not sure who else is.

Toast and flipz have said hero dev will continue, just slow. I think jschi didn't jump ship either. And he is a genius
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and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well

tatonka_hero said:
and this surprises you? Heck, if I had the money, or control over my gf's accounts, I would have opened a new line and gotten the Evo right away as well
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It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.

When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.

radxcoresteven said:
When I saw Damage's new update, my heart skipped a beat..=(
But there is no hate at all towards those who went to the Evo.
I mean, they were doing it for free, so we can't really get mad lol.
But to answer, yes, I feel slightly empty.
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No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.

Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.

Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.

familyguy26 said:
Don't feel empty, but I am a little upset with HTC. They've pretty much made us dependent on the developers here. I would be fine with stock roms, but it's pretty clear that HTC is pretty much done supporting the Hero. 2.1 is it and the update comes with its own issues that weren't in 1.5.
I got an Android phone with the assumption that it would be supported with the latest updates at a faster pace and for much longer than what I'm seeing by HTC. It makes it pointless to ever do another contract if I'm going to be stuck with a phone that won't get regular updates from the manufacturer. I'm not sure if I would get another HTC phone. I hope Sprint gets the Nexus One.
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It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone

cheer up
HeroMeng said:
It doesn't surprise me, it just... makes me sad.
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HeroMeng said:
No, I'm not mad at them either. It just makes me sad.
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there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
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Heh. Look at the bright side: now other people can take over the reigns; and trust me, some people here are more than capable at doing so.
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^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan

usq said:
there is nothing to cry about. the fact remains that the hero is a great platform for dev. myself and others are still quite happy with this phone and will stick with until our contracts are up.
^ this and i am thinking that devs from other areas will step into heros now that they can pick them up much cheaper than before the evo was released. look at some of the older phones, they are still going strong in the dev department.
i am not worried even if i end up with 'just' darchdriod as my daily rom for the rest of my contract (another 6 months or so).
cheers... or rather cheer up!
ryan
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I'm not that sad... lol. I am, however, sweltering, tired, and need to turn my AC on. Darchdroid is the best OC rom out there, and RegawMOD is the best NON-OC rom out there, so I think we are pretty good in the dev side of things.

HeroMeng said:
It won't. They pulled a Verizon and told us to buy the Evo. Plus, the Nexus is an HTC phone
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That sucks. I forgot the Nexus was an HTC phone, but I was mostly referring to getting phones that don't have Sense. They usually are updated much faster.

I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.

notasimpleway said:
I feel like an unwanted stepchild now.
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The Hero is sort of the unwanted stepchild of XDA now. But, all the first-time Ebay adopters are coming to our "rescue".

I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.

Save up and buy an evo.
This is just how the phone loop rolls, once theres something better , you don't go back.
I will be keeping my hero, but yeah look at it this way , XDA devs are not the only ones dumping the phone , so is sprint.

HeroMeng said:
Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a flood of noobs coming. We probably won't have a rom update from a major dev ever again, and... it makes me feel empty inside.
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.

Most of our devs are gone. They've run off to the Evo portal and ebayed their Heroes. In turn, people bought their Heroes on Ebay and we will have a f
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I don't know why the EVO still does not have full root that can support custom recovery without a computer and since it doesn't have full permissions you can't pull stock apk's and wifi tether does not work. So you can be happy that you have a fully customizable phone for now.
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It does have "full root" but the storage has nand locked/protected. It's like that little switch on and SD card or floppy to protect it only its software not hardware theyll break it in a week or two. You can pull apks in recovery... and WiFi tether needs a netfilter kernel so give em a week and it will work.
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Jus10o said:
I cant do what flipz, damage and darch do. Just naming top 3 roms.
But i can put things together and fix broken things. Ill be stuck with my hero for quite some time. So im always willing to collaborate with others to get something working.
Also im sure we could ask a few questions here and there to the main devs for advice and help. No matter what phone they currently use.
I think we have almost everything we can think of, OC, roms, JIT, themes etc.. I think that covers all the big breakthroughs for are hardware restricted phones. But we can always improve on them, many here are capable. So yeah it sucks these big names left but im honestly not worried about the future of the CDMA hero.
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Well Regaw should be back at it soon and with you here it should all be ok anyways.

another froyo prediction

I say we wont see it till July or August. Also n1 will get it last....
Just my thoughts. I figured we'd still all be waiting at this time.
Although I'm happy with the leaked as its good. I'm starting to want the final release ....
Well I bet I'm right. Atleast no June release IMO ....
Flame all ya want. Its my turn for my opinion. Lets see who's right. I say end of July..... and the Evo and incredible will get it first. Official that is.

I thought the Nexus already had it?
I'd guess that all phones running Sense will get it around the same time.
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temperbad said:
I say we wont see it till July or August. Also n1 will get it last....
Just my thoughts. I figured we'd still all be waiting at this time.
Although I'm happy with the leaked as its good. I'm starting to want the final release ....
Well I bet I'm right. Atleast no June release IMO ....
Flame all ya want. Its my turn for my opinion. Lets see who's right. I say end of July..... and the Evo and incredible will get it first. Official that is.
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*insert flames here*
I will choose to respectfully disagree.

its already out on the N1 why would we get it last?

no disappointment
for me
Final build is always way far behind the great developers cooked ROMs.... so i am not worried about final builds( i never saw one without issues) as long as XDA and its great minds are here.....
thank you all for you amazing work......
just got offtopic idea: what will happen if all the XDA devs together make a seperate OS for phones?, idea itself is exciting me

lightforce said:
its already out on the N1 why would we get it last?
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Obviously because Google already has a leaked version on the Nexus one they will abandon all the progress they made and will focus entirely on gingerbread or possibly just twiddling their thumbs.

lightforce said:
its already out on the N1 why would we get it last?
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Uh no its not out. We got a unfinished version for developers....
Just saying watch. I hope I'm wrong but my gut feelings say atleast July. I bet we don't see the over air one in June...

When does the iphone 4 come out? I'm guessing it will come out around that date.

what are these "problems" that everyone seems to be having with the dev build? My phone is snappy as hell and i havent got any FC's besides a few launcher ones right after install. Nothing since.

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what are these "problems" that everyone seems to be having with the dev build? My phone is snappy as hell and i havent got any FC's besides a few launcher ones right after install. Nothing since.
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I got no issues either. That's why I'm wondering what's taking so long. Its ready and if not 99% there and that was 3 weeks ago.
Hell cooks here work faster than google.

temperbad said:
I say we wont see it till July or August. Also n1 will get it last....
Just my thoughts. I figured we'd still all be waiting at this time.
Although I'm happy with the leaked as its good. I'm starting to want the final release ....
Well I bet I'm right. Atleast no June release IMO ....
Flame all ya want. Its my turn for my opinion. Lets see who's right. I say end of July..... and the Evo and incredible will get it first. Official that is.
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You're insane. The N1 is the only phone to date that Google has proven actually be WORKING on 2.2 for. How could we POSSIBLY get it last?

I don't mind the wait. CM is still pumping out good stuff for me to play with and i tried the Froyo test release and it was pretty nice as well, though it felt very generic and not really Nexus One tailored. Hopefully the final build introduces some new features and stuff that's specific to the N1.
Since 2.2 includes JIT (really big change), there are likely lots of little wrinkles that need to be ironed out.

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You're insane. The N1 is the only phone to date that Google has proven actually be WORKING on 2.2 for. How could we POSSIBLY get it last?
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Not sure. Just a gut feeling. Not really we will get it last. But I bet its released very closely with the others.
What the hell is taking so long? Just saying my opinion and how I don't see us having the official by June. And I wouldn't be surprised if htc are already working on the Evo and incredible.
I think its bull honkey. Imagine if there were no leak. Everyone would be pissed.
The unofficial is pretty stable. I don't see another 3 weeks to fix minor things when cooks here do It in a week with more bugs. Hell 2.1 was buggier than this and they had a update fast for it....
Just getting the feeling things will slow

We don't need another new speculation thread. Please help keep the forum clean and continue discussion on an existing thread.

|ONLY 2.2 THREAD ALLOWED!| Froyo Rumor Thread

Ok, based on a few suggestions, I am starting this thread as an Android 2.2 rumor thread for the Epic 4G. This is to be the ONLY thread complaining, whining, commenting, or asking about 2.2 on the Epic! Report all other threads about 2.2 rumors on the Epic and I'll merge them into this one. Also, repeat offenders who make more then one new thread about 2.2 outside this one will be infracted/and or banned for trolling. Thank you for your cooperation, and happy posting
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my leaker said: sprint software group can't give him the tar because they are afraid to death about losing their job
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Code:
<Tortel> http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/DK28.rdf
<@Shabbypenguin> i was talking about the chipset, not the phones
<Tortel> ^^ it says we have 2.2
<Tortel> ( thats some file downloaded when you get a MMS)
<nonoo2> http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EA17.rdf
<@Shabbypenguin> if dk28 was supposed to be final then why are people still using the nexus 1 keys in their roms?
* nonoo2 is now known as nonoo
<tanimn> validation failed.
<Tortel> ah damn, i didnt notice it was build based
<nonoo> http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EA18.rdf
<@Shabbypenguin> yea just saw that nonoo
<@Shabbypenguin> 19 and higher fail
<nonoo> http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB07.rdf
<!noobnl> yay!
<nonoo> http://device.sprintpcs.com/Samsung/SPH-D700/EB09.rdf
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You will not get data back if you flash EB01 modem from Fascinate!
There a workaround posted below
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New rumor from android central
Froyo Feb 21 here

Another rumor for you
http://theurbandaily.com/Rumors/shamika-sanders/the-funniest-celeb-rumors/
Apparently singer "ciara" is a man

We'll wait and be disappointed again
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I just want to get everyone's hopes up again to watch us all get crushed. Its my new favorite thing. That, and bashing Sprint on twitter.

Gersonian said:
I just want to get everyone's hopes up again to watch us all get crushed. Its my new favorite thing. That, and bashing Sprint on twitter.
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sweet dude you bash them on twitter n i bash them on fb! theyre gonna take it from both ends...i mean from both social networking ends haha

We should all start calling Sprint and asking about this lol
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Woo! More unsubstantiated rumors.
With each failed attempt at guessing a release date, our chances of being correct on the next guess improve, right guys? Guys?

So EA17 means that it was completed on the 17th of January. So either they are clueless how to release this OTA without bricking devices or they are really testing the **** out of this one then. I hope its the latter case.

I feel like Charlie Brown going to kick the football. Surely Lucy won't pull it away again this time...

I think this one will actually be the one, theres already proof with that picture. Now Now, I know that it can be edited, but still, it seems like this date will be the one we were actually waiting for.

I just don't get it.
EA17... so it's already done.
It's not out because it's being tested.
So why is there a release date?
- If they know it's fine, it should be out already.
- If they expect it to fail, then how do they know it will be ready by a certain date?
If I had my way a lot would be different... but I don't understand how/why the final release will not be a build dated maybe a week before the actual release date, a date we will not know until it happens.

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I just don't get it.
EA17... so it's already done.
It's not out because it's being tested.
So why is there a release date?
- If they know it's fine, it should be out already.
- If they expect it to fail, then how do they know it will be ready by a certain date?
If I had my way a lot would be different... but I don't understand how/why the final release will not be a build dated maybe a week before the actual release date, a date we will not know until it happens.
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It makes perfect sense. They are going to test whatever they release for a while to make sure its polished. The rumor that AC received was probably that IF they dont find any major bugs in this version, it will be released on the 21st.

If they are so sure it's fine, they should release it now...
And if they DO find an issue, they'll disappoint everyone AGAIN.
This is nothing more than predicting the future, and they've been doing it poorly for 6mos now, why does Sprint think they'll get it right this time?
Releasing it at such-and-such date assuming all's well is what they have been doing since August.

AndrewZorn said:
If they are so sure it's fine, they should release it now...
And if they DO find an issue, they'll disappoint everyone AGAIN.
This is nothing more than predicting the future, and they've been doing it poorly for 6mos now, why does Sprint think they'll get it right this time?
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Sprint isn't leaking the rumors. It's individuals that work for Sprint who want to give us an idea of when we might expect it (then they find some bugs)... or just douchebags that want to throw out rumors for laughs. Again, Sprint doesn't say when they are releasing updates because that makes them look worse if it's buggy or they don't follow through.
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I am running 2.2, it has some issues, but works remarkably well. No FC's, and only slight screen rotation lag. So I can wait for Froyo... I am willing to wait because I want them to fix any and all bugs... Whether that be GPS, keyboard misses, screen rotation, whatever..
I am not a Sprint Lacky, have no stock in the company, but how people can get so emotionally attached to a software upgrade is beyond me. I can only imagine what people will be saying if they released a rushed buggy version.

Those of us that flashed the FroYo DK28 will still get this OTA if/when it comes out, right?
Still getting used to this phone. The Nexus One I used to have was a lot different.

I'd be happy with a new leak that's better than DK28 instead of "release dates" for froyo.
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edonnelly said:
I feel like Charlie Brown going to kick the football. Surely Lucy won't pull it away again this time...
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Don't well all

Ryjabo said:
Those of us that flashed the FroYo DK28 will still get this OTA if/when it comes out, right?
Still getting used to this phone. The Nexus One I used to have was a lot different.
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Not exactly. You will have to flash stock DI18 for the OTA to come through and install. But I recommend waiting for our dev teams to get hold of it first to tweak it.
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