Hi to all^^
I'd like to ask you some idea I had right now. What if everyone of us, who really wants great movies-playback on their HD would pay 50$ for the drivers to Corecodec, so that they can buy the drivers from Qualcomm? I would do this... I mean, how much could such a driver cost? I don't think more than 1000$... And this would be "only" 20 persons, I mean hey, this is possible!! Of course, than would be a special version of the Coreplayer only for the ones that paid this 50$.. And if its not possible, than everyone would get his money back, of course! I don't know, but I really, really want this driver and I can't imagine that only because some kb I can't play movies just like that, putting them directly on my HD.. Please, tell me what you think about.. Many greez, cad^^
Why not make this into a poll?
Yes for me.
Yes - although from some videos I've seen on Youtube with DivX and Mp3 audio encoding, the videos seem fine.
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Yes - although from some videos I've seen on Youtube with DivX and Mp3 audio encoding, the videos seem fine.
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Yes, thats right, I saw that too, but too many here complain about the bad movie-playback, so I think thats the truth. I trust more in the members here than in any tests that are not representative enough for me. And our members say that in practical use, you connot just take a normal divx/xvid-movie and put it without thinking on your HD. THATS what I want!! And for that, I would pay without even thinking 50$, its worth for me. So, I just want to see if I'm the only one or not, and if not, then I really want to try this.. So, thanks for your responses!!!^^ greez, cad
Nice idea!
But dont you think the price would be closer to 10'000$ rather than 1'000$, dont you think?
I mean to buy all the licences that are necessary and to pay the work to developp/test/release them.
I would also donate to get the development started but I fear the cost will be much higher than we expect (or maybe try to do a open-source driver if the infos for it are available?)
Ascenca
definitely i would
I would (probably...)
BUT - whatever method is used to collect / pay for / develop / distibute, you can guarentee that within about 5 mins of it being released to those who paid for it, it would mysteriously appear somewhere for free download.
Which is a bit naffing off it you have paid £5 / £10 towards development costs - and VERY naffing off if you paid £50.
Not wanting to get this thread decending into file sharing issues though!
But yes, I would pay an amount to get round the whole re-encoding thing
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Nice idea!
But dont you think the price would be closer to 10'000$ rather than 1'000$, dont you think?
I mean to buy all the licences that are necessary and to pay the work to developp/test/release them.
I would also donate to get the development started but I fear the cost will be much higher than we expect (or maybe try to do a open-source driver if the infos for it are available?)
Ascenca
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Oh, do you think? Thats indeed much too much I mean, I don't want to pay for everyone, just the ones who pay this 50$, get the driver. Would that be possible? So I think it is enough to pay 50$ for the driver and if we are at least 20, we could ask if its possible.. The HD could be such a great multimedia device and it hurts me that its not only because of a few kb text... But please have in mind, I'm not either from qualcomm, either from htc and this was just an funny idea I had now!!! For me, this solution would be great... But I absolutely don't know if that would work but my hope dies very late many greez, your cad^^
Edit: @ TTDegs: yes, thats what I think about too, and this is a major problem. I don't know how to prevent filesharing in this case, because of course you and all of us would be angry if others get it just "for free", only because we paid for it.. But otherwise, for me its really worth paying 50$ for that and I personally don't care if anybody else get it after my payment for free. But I can understand it that most of us would be very angry about this.. And I have to admit, I don't have a solution for this I'm sorry...:'(
Well I have to mention that I am not sure if it is like I said, but I only guess that software development isnt always cheap. Would have to investigate a little to get a real price to do something like that.
Is there no software developer in this forum who could estimate the real value of such a project?
Ascenca
No need to apologise cadenza - there are a LOT of people paid a LOT of money to try and prevent illegal copying / distribution of various kinds of files, but people still get round it!
HOPEFULLY adding the codecs / drivers (or whatever it takes) is something which some of the very clever people in here can resolve (though from comments so far on the subject that might not be straight forward ) - in which case I'd be more than happy to donate to that
I'd really much rather pay someone in here over paying some faceless set of people at HTC / Coreplayer / Qualcomm
I'd pay. You should add a poll here to allow an easier 'show of opinion'.
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Well I have to mention that I am not sure if it is like I said, but I only guess that software development isnt always cheap. Would have to investigate a little to get a real price to do something like that.
Is there no software developer in this forum who could estimate the real value of such a project?
Ascenca
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Considering the parties involved I think it would require a LOT of $50 contributions to get this done. Would be nice if they did it off their own backs.
Just as an example, I run an online business in the UK, do most of the coding and admin work myself, if we need extra hands it's anything from £200 - £450 per day!! ($300 - $700)
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I'd really much rather pay someone in here over paying some faceless set of people at HTC / Coreplayer / Qualcomm
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Ok, me too!!! The point is, I would pay 50$ for bringing this project forward, for being able to play normal movie-files totally fluid on the HD. I'm not asking for HD-movies, of course, but I want just to play normal movies with datarates until 1.5Mbps absolutely fluid. And I understood that its from the hardware no problem, so I want to bring this step to light! Because of that, who can I donate this, to note this project? For me, I'd like also much more to donate this money here to a very good developer if he needs this money for developing than to qualcomm, but I don't know who can do this. The point is that I can't develop myself and I'm ready to pay 50$ for anyone who can prevent me from converting anymore with very good playback! So, who can do this?? I want to be one little "sponsor". And I hope I'm not the only one I hope that together we can manage to have our dreams on this piece of beauty^^ many greez, cad
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I'd pay. You should add a poll here to allow an easier 'show of opinion'.
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I'm very sorry, but I don't know really how to create a poll could you write me a pm how to do it? Because I started the thread already..:s and the problem is, I'm surfing the whole time with my e51, so I think I can do it with this device.. thanks a lot!
@ Philio25: thats not so good news.. But do you think it would be possible to program such a driver in one day? Oh, I already see, my dream is cracking... because I thought we can "buy" this driver and just install it for the processor.. I mean, what can you do with hardware, which you cannot use?.. I'm so sad....
These guys offers over $7000 for someone to solve the HTC graphics driver problem without success
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351986
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These guys offers over $7000 for someone to solve the HTC graphics driver problem without success
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351986
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LOL - was doing some digging, and came back in here to post up that very thread!
cheers for finding it first
I did find this too though http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/22/htc-chimes-in-on-video-driver-controversy/ which was an overview of the debate on previous HTC models.
WARNING some of the replies in their use language which may offend, and may trigger works profanity filters.
So don't go there if you're worried about that sort of thing!
For those not wanting to read the whole thing, this is a snippet (apparently) from an official HTC response from Jan this year:
"HTC believes the overall value of its devices based on their combination of functionality and connectivity exceeds their ability to play or render high-resolution video. These devices do still provide a rich multimedia experience comparable to that of most smartphones and enable a variety of audio and video file formats," reads the official response, in part. Furthermore, the company has officially confirmed that Imageon drivers are not in use on the affected devices, but that it "plans to include video acceleration hardware in future video-centric devices that will enable high-resolution video support."
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Good to see that it obviously classes the HD as a "future video-centric device" then...
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@ Philio25: thats not so good news.. But do you think it would be possible to program such a driver in one day? Oh, I already see, my dream is cracking... because I thought we can "buy" this driver and just install it for the processor.. I mean, what can you do with hardware, which you cannot use?.. I'm so sad....
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You would think if it was that easy HTC would have included it already!
TTDegs said:
I did find this too though http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/22/htc-chimes-in-on-video-driver-controversy/ which was an overview of the debate on previous HTC models.
WARNING some of the replies in their use language which may offend, and may trigger works profanity filters.
So don't go there if you're worried about that sort of thing!
For those not wanting to read the whole thing, this is a snippet (apparently) from an official HTC response from Jan this year:
Good to see that it obviously classes the HD as a "future video-centric device" then...
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Sorry, but where does it mention the Touch HD in the press release?
Definately a YES for me...
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ok well i have the sprint touch... and i love to slingbox to it. THe sports are really choppy but i mean im getting a 300-500 kpbs connection all the time. So i know the speed is fine. I set motion to high on the settings, but... still its rlly choppy. I heard it was a directdraw problem, and is there anyway to fix it. Possibly on the Slingbox end or? what? or spm program, or a hack to wm6 to make it go to another codec, or just a fix in general for wm6??? anyone???
Buy a phone not made by a garbage company like HTC.
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Buy a phone not made by a garbage company like HTC.
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Says the guy who owns a Touch
aint nothing wrong with HTC!!! its the bloody software thats on them.... grrrs to M$.
When is there gonna be a XDA-Devs FULL ROM (i.e. started from scratch )
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aint nothing wrong with HTC!!! its the bloody software thats on them.... grrrs to M$.
When is there gonna be a XDA-Devs FULL ROM (i.e. started from scratch )
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Not bloody microsoft, its htc who did not implement the right drivers for directdraw.
gr. bram
bram_smulders said:
Not bloody microsoft, its htc who did not implement the right drivers for directdraw.
gr. bram
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I agree to you
prodinho said:
Says the guy who owns a Touch
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And who knows how crappy a company HTC is. Figure it out.
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And who knows how crappy a company HTC is. Figure it out.
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I we think HTC are so crap, then buy something else, iPhone or even Nokia! Then see how much fun you don't have messing with it!
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I we think HTC are so crap, then buy something else, iPhone or even Nokia! Then see how much fun you don't have messing with it!
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I wish that I could be as smart as you. Too bad you don't know that it was HTC who decided not to include the correct drivers with their WM6 phones.
Please don't make me teach you the differences between GSM and CDMA networks.
nonegiven said:
I wish that I could be as smart as you. Too bad you don't know that it was HTC who decided not to include the correct drivers with their WM6 phones.
Please don't make me teach you the differences between GSM and CDMA networks.
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I am not getting into a discussion over this!!! What I was saying is that there are so many people complaining about HTC yet we all still have them so we must like them.
Either stop winging about it and accept that HTC have got a number of things wrong or go and get something else!!
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I am not getting into a discussion over this!!! What I was saying is that there are so many people complaining about HTC yet we all still have them so we must like them.
Either stop winging about it and accept that HTC have got a number of things wrong or go and get something else!!
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So if you have a girlfriend and that you didn't know was a ***** before she became your girlfriend, you still have to like her?
No way man.. I'll f*ck with her as much as I want then I'm getting a new one. LOL
Same goes with my phone.
I won't go with "we all still have them so we must like them" crap.
flykthewiz said:
I we think HTC are so crap, then buy something else, iPhone or even Nokia! Then see how much fun you don't have messing with it!
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Um, you can mod the iPhone and it's amazing. Blows my slow Tilt away. Glad I use both cause this Tilt is the size and shape of what its almost good for. Paper weight!
Back to the topic at hand...
I don't know how the encoding of the slingbox works, and if you can modify the encoding settings, but i managed to stream from via VLC with the following scenario:
My Dreambox -> My PC (VLC Transcoding to qVga) -> Internet -> WiFi -> HTC Herald (VLC Client).
I don't remember the bitrate when i tested it, but my connection at home caps at 256Kb upload, so that means the stream was on a somewhat lower bitrate.
If you can modify the Slingbox encoding settings and play with them, maybe drop the quality somewhat shouldn't you be able to view the stream?
ps. if something above doesn't make sense, i just woke up
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I we think HTC are so crap, then buy something else, iPhone or even Nokia! Then see how much fun you don't have messing with it!
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lul @ gay..
dude, there's golden era ppc world besides htc stuff, too.
problem is, that usually, htc machines are crap with omap or samsung cpus.
all bout that.
It seems like my (newish) HTC Touch Rom with WM6.1 doesn't use DirectDraws at all.
I did some remote debugging on it, and while I am not a mobile programmer all indications were that this was a sigificant change from WM 6.0. (I.e. call stacks during video playback newer show directDraw, while in the past they did).
Personally I really like my Vogue. It seems to get the most trash talk of all of the HTC's, but it works for my needs tastes better than anything else I have owned.
To be fair, my last phone was back in the WM5 days, so that last statement is not exactly a fair coparison.
Polaris has potential, I know!
This is my first thread so don't go rough on me.
All this is about an idea, about a dream, about the future.
I wish there could be something we could all do to save our little Polaris's lives from the trash bin.
Wouldn't it be nice!?!
I suggest 5 things!
And i would need some hardcore programmers to be working on this..
Yes, for crying out loud, I am calling for Bepe, Olipro, Vivi, Udk, Pawel062, cmonex, misar, faria, tadzio, pof.. There are a lot of you guys. And really as far as I know you know what you are doing!
I am using Bepe's rom at the moment.. (bepe an update maybe?)
SO!!!!
YEA!!!
THE FOUR MAGICAL THINGS WE ALL NEED:
PROPER Graphics support - Coming in june with the Diamond i suppose.
Or if you are smart enough see how it
works in core player 1.2.4 and take it out.
PROPER Eased up system - I mean roms with all tweaks and tricks
+ make them empty, like totally empty!
PROPER List of applications - To show everything that is available for the
TC, Also more settings availability (up until
how big the application icons must be)
PROPER OVERCLOCK - What no one thought about this one?!?
PROPER Launcher - I have got one in mind, I can try to do it in
flash version, yet i'll need you guys to
program it for pocket PCs out there.
MAYBE THIS THREAD IS NEVER TO BE DISCOVERED
YET I BELIEVE THERE ARE LOADS OF OTHERS WHO
WANT TO START THE SAME THREAD!!!
Drivers+Easy System+Overclock= KILLING COOL EXPERIENCE
All the software choice, will help you decide what you really
want from the device.
I've got ideas.
I need help.
Post me a personal message to get my skype and other stuff.
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Lot's of big fonts and requests from someone who doesn't appear to understand much about why his some of these requests can't be fulfilled.
Out of interest tcfanboy, how much cash are you willing to gift to people you've mentioned to do all this work for you?
I am not planning to sell this product, so there is no cash in this for me.
I am just saying i can contribute, i wish others could too..
I just like to have my device working, don't you?
don't be a pessimist.
I'm just tying to help.
If you don't like it, you can ignore it.
Big fonts are there to stand out. But yea i guess they are too big.
I know nothing about programming on a device such as a pocket pocket pc.
But i can program in pascal, delfi, and i am currently getting hold of c++..
I am not a lamer if that's what you are saying. I just need guidance.
Will you be of help?
People here are trying there best taking apart other devices and putting their codes into other. How about a new level?
how about writing the codes ourselves.
Just asking you if there is there a tutorial online? The one every beginner has read.
hey tcfanboy, thanks for the poll, u've got a point here but: u see all this work that the ppc wizes are doing is voluntary and asking them for stuff that they already know abt its not the best idea(my opinion). I'm sure they're doing their best to provide all of us with good roms and various improvements but they're not receiving any help from the company that was supposed to do all this work: HTC !
Anyway, HTC announced that they will release some sort of update in this month or next one for the devices with Q7xxx chips that will provide some sort of fix for the current issues but they didn't specify what exactly will the update do. And its not surprising considering they don't even admit they've got a problem with the video acceleration
I'm definitely looking forward to see your list of requests integrated in a rom and I'm sure sooner or later it will happen. Thanks to every1 working on any improvements!
according to an o2 germany insider at ppc-welt.info, there can not be software driver update, since this is software code on core-level, wich cant be solved by flashing a rom
greet, qoka
qoka said:
according to an o2 germany insider at ppc-welt.info, there can not be software driver update, since this is software code on core-level, wich cant be solved by flashing a rom
greet, qoka
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sooooo, it will be a new rom ?
Ohyeah, but is in WM6.1 a Videodriver??? That´s the QUESTION !
We see, when it´s da, lach
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sooooo, it will be a new rom ?
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there will be an update that fixes something that htc is not willing to tell in advance but it optimizes grafik performance
the hardware acceleration cant be activated afterwards, according to the o2 guy
qoka said:
there will be an update that fixes something that htc is not willing to tell in advance but it optimizes grafik performance
the hardware acceleration cant be activated afterwards, according to the o2 guy
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why ?what is the problem that can't be solved ?
tcfanboy said:
Polaris has potential, I know!
This is my first thread so don't go rough on me.
All this is about an idea, about a dream, about the future.
I wish there could be something we could all do to save our little Polaris's lives from the trash bin.
Wouldn't it be nice!?!
I suggest 5 things!
And i would need some hardcore programmers to be working on this..
Yes, for crying out loud, I am calling for Bepe, Olipro, Vivi, Udk, Pawel062, cmonex, misar, faria, tadzio, pof.. There are a lot of you guys. And really as far as I know you know what you are doing!
I am using Bepe's rom at the moment.. (bepe an update maybe?)
SO!!!!
YEA!!!
THE FOUR MAGICAL THINGS WE ALL NEED:
PROPER Graphics support - Coming in june with the Diamond i suppose.
Or if you are smart enough see how it
works in core player 1.2.4 and take it out.
PROPER Eased up system - I mean roms with all tweaks and tricks
+ make them empty, like totally empty!
PROPER List of applications - To show everything that is available for the
TC, Also more settings availability (up until
how big the application icons must be)
PROPER OVERCLOCK - What no one thought about this one?!?
PROPER Launcher - I have got one in mind, I can try to do it in
flash version, yet i'll need you guys to
program it for pocket PCs out there.
MAYBE THIS THREAD IS NEVER TO BE DISCOVERED
YET I BELIEVE THERE ARE LOADS OF OTHERS WHO
WANT TO START THE SAME THREAD!!!
Drivers+Easy System+Overclock= KILLING COOL EXPERIENCE
All the software choice, will help you decide what you really
want from the device.
I've got ideas.
I need help.
Post me a personal message to get my skype and other stuff.
Update: Changed the fonts.. not so big now..
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i might be able to contribue with a ultra lite rom. i know i said i would release a new project rom but i want to mess more with a lite rom so will release a full and lite rom tommorow. if u all dont mind me removing almost everything like camera etc.. i can definatly get something really lite made.
qoka said:
there will be an update that fixes something that htc is not willing to tell in advance but it optimizes grafik performance
the hardware acceleration cant be activated afterwards, according to the o2 guy
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acceleration can be turned on and off at any time. acceleration is nothing more than making dlls that turn on the acceleration and use it. manilla aka touchflo 3D is a example of acceleration in use. if u look at the dependencies of manilla then you will know the dlls needed for acceleration.
Manila runs on a quite different device though
The actual hardware could be disabled in the Polaris-generation through some sort of burning certain areas on the chip (some guy wrote about it in here a couple months ago) to physically destroy certain features. But giving effort to find out if that is the case by disassembling other ROMs is surely not the wrong thing to do! I guess I'll wait for some sort of fix or buy an Xperia if that one happens to arrive first
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i might be able to contribue with a ultra lite rom. i know i said i would release a new project rom but i want to mess more with a lite rom so will release a full and lite rom tommorow. if u all dont mind me removing almost everything like camera etc.. i can definatly get something really lite made.
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hey Pawel, if u'll integrate in your rom all the fixes and current improvements that vivi, pdaviet and udK have in their roms, it doesn't matter how lite the rom will be because we can always install on it the applications we want.
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acceleration can be turned on and off at any time. acceleration is nothing more than making dlls that turn on the acceleration and use it. manilla aka touchflo 3D is a example of acceleration in use. if u look at the dependencies of manilla then you will know the dlls needed for acceleration.
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I don't know much abt wm platform but working in IT gives me a bit of a tech background and I'm learning fast, please correct me if I'm wrong but I think this video acceleration problem on Polaris is not easily achievable even with the dlls from Diamond because they are built for VGA and TC is using QVGA Right?
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they are built for VGA and TC is using QVGA Right?
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This is correct. But then again a driver is a driver and the resolution shouldnt play a role. nVidia drivers work for 1920x1200 as well as they do for some 1024x768 output... It could be different though for fixed resolution devices like our mobile devices are. We'll see, we'll see, or we might switch the hardware manufacturer...
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i might be able to contribue with a ultra lite rom. i know i said i would release a new project rom but i want to mess more with a lite rom so will release a full and lite rom tommorow. if u all dont mind me removing almost everything like camera etc.. i can definatly get something really lite made.
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Really? It looks like you're making so much promises both in Polaris Project, with the Glass ROM and now here.
thx
I am glad to get some Seniors here. Thx guys. I saw this post of all the htc programs..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344544
Well.. you should add the program list of the programs in the original rom.
Downloadable links and light description of features.
Yea, I am a demandive person! Someone must be.
Btw, there is an excellent company which makes software with understandable interface. Well.. I did not necesserely buy their products.. But the name is Vito. So this is the interface which should be used. If interested in them ask me I'll provide a free link. I am from russia. It's legal here. )))
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Really? It looks like you're making so much promises both in Polaris Project, with the Glass ROM and now here.
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u all asked for more than a full rom so i am making it. whats the problem in that. so i missed the deadline by one day. we all do.
WOOOOHOOOOO
BetaBoy said:
Many of you may know as I have posted about this several times.... and from what we can legally say... we have been working with Qualcomm on possible solutions to the various QTV based chipsets.
But, ideal situations aside we are now going beyond that and are adding FULL QTV support to CorePlayer in an upcoming release.
I will NOT go into any more detail on how.... but if you liked what we did before with just the overlay support in CP for QTV that we reverse engineered (for compatibility purposes under the DMCA)... you are sure gonna love what we are doing next ;-)
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http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&p=7666&sid=ee27405a8fc2eda89f7789455f44a444#p7666
wow, good find
Good news indeed. Thanks for the link.
Thanks!
Lets all help by posting at CoreCodec forum and showing your interest.
can somebody explain the meaning to a wm noob?
does this mean that the video-playback is going to be perfect when they release the new version?
I think it means they are working with Qualcomm to better take advantage of the hardware that the Touch HD contains with regards to video playback performance !
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Thanks!
Lets all help by posting at CoreCodec forum and showing your interest.
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It was nice to hear what CoreCodec had to say later:-
"The Touch HD is the biggest reason for us doing what we are doing now. Well that and future devices just like it..."
Beards.
OMG!!
This just made my day/week/life.
Its VERY good news, but it will be interesting to see how it effects heat production and battery life. Dont underestimate the ability of HTC to throw us a curve ball on this one.
Nice find - and great news (potentially)
Well now, this IS good news... or so I thought, then someone mentioned there could be increased heat / battery usage, which would be logical....
Anyhow, I'd certainly love to have the functionality and the choice, over nothing any day.
Look forward to purchasing the new Core player!!
...IB a n e
Wow, that indeed is good news. Without Coreplayer, video playback on the Qualcomm MSM7200 QTv chipset HTC devices would be a sad affair... HTC should thank the Coreplayer crew for doing their work for them
Sorry to sound like a noob but if I purchased coreplayer this week for the HD I am going to order does that mean I am going to have to pay again when they upgrade to 1.3?
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OMG!!
This just made my day/week/life.
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I share the sentiment!
Insaneboy said:
OMG!!
This just made my day/week/life.
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Likewise!!!! I've never been happier literally!
ps. someone sticky this so that people can see it!
Wow!!! That means no problem anymore with movies??? I'm very, very, very impressed!! Please let this be reality... THATs the solution greez, cad^^
Great news, big thanks to the guys at corecodec.
Sounds really good, must wait to see if we can use it to improve other device driver.
Well this is good! I've not run into much of a problem but I've only tried a few SD divx vids with about 1 Mbit bitrate, guess this will mean that higher bitrate will play smoothly and maybe HD video too! (Without the need for conversion!)
Ahh...OK.
Beards said:
It was nice to hear what CoreCodec had to say later:-
"The Touch HD is the biggest reason for us doing what we are doing now. Well that and future devices just like it..."
Beards.
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haha they say that to all the girls...ROFL
Quote from Betaboy:
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=785#p4629
"....Needless to say if you can test CorePlayer Pro.... how good it is on the platform and adding acceleration on top of that,.....
.... well you will feel like we do that CP on the iPhone will be unequaled."
Edit(13.03.10) Ew... I can't believe I wrote this once :S
Hey im getting my first smart phone the christmas, and I cant wait, but after doing loadsa research I know that windows mobile is total crap in comparisson to iphone and android OS's. So I was wondering if a few different apps and such existed to make the HD2 even better
1) Is there an app which lets you put a pin/security code on your phone (like the iphone has) so it needs to be entered before you can access it?
2) Are there any skinning apps to change the appearance of the windows UI when not in sense?
3) Is there anyway to port android/iphone OS to the HTC HD2? (I've seen there a site dedicated to that for android,will they be doing a leo one anytime soon?) plus is it worth it or does it become laggy and such
4) Are there any other cool apps (not tacky games or calculators) which you might suggest for me to put on?
5) How do I install these things, I see most of it is in CAB files, but how do I install them to the phone?
Thanks
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[★] said:
Hey im getting my first smart phone the christmas, and I cant wait, but after doing loadsa research I know that windows mobile is total crap in comparisson to iphone and android OS's.
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Then why don't you buy an Iphone or an Android phone ??
[★] said:
Hey im getting my first smart phone the christmas, and I cant wait, but after doing loadsa research I know that windows mobile is total crap in comparisson to iphone and android OS's. So I was wondering if a few different apps and such existed to make the HD2 even better
1) Is there an app which lets you put a pin/security code on your phone (like the iphone has) so it needs to be entered before you can access it?
2) Are there any skinning apps to change the appearance of the windows UI when not in sense?
3) Is there anyway to port android/iphone OS to the HTC HD2? (I've seen there a site dedicated to that for android,will they be doing a leo one anytime soon?) plus is it worth it or does it become laggy and such
4) Are there any other cool apps (not tacky games or calculators) which you might suggest for me to put on?
5) How do I install these things, I see most of it is in CAB files, but how do I install them to the phone?
Thanks
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1- Yes, you can lock the screen with Password. When you power on the screen, you are prompted to enter a pin/ paraphrase.
2- If I understand, you want to change the from sense to another UI. Try SPB Shell.
3- The project is running to port Android on HD2 and the progress is in the development section. Still, there is a long way to go.
4- Once you buy the phone, you can join the Leo themes and applications section, where you will find pretty good applications. My favorites are: ShazamID, Resco Explorer, Garmin GPS, Core Player, Skype, Putty mobile etc..
5- You need to copy the cab file to your device. Once it's there, you tap on it and an installation wizard appears.
1) Yes, that´s part of the system (can be set up during first start or later)
2) Yes, that´s part of the system (check settings for "today" and more)
3) No. Android maybe when HTC Dragon is launched? iPhone? Hmm...
4) That depends on your own needs and requests... so many to choose from.
5) A cab is copied to the memory card of the phone and launched from there.
EDIT: Sorry for redundant posting...
Pappagallo said:
Then why don't you buy an Iphone or an Android phone ??
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I absolutely agree! Why do you want to buy the best Windows Phone ever to transform it in an iPhoney or Android!?
aiwama said:
I absolutely agree! Why do you want to buy the best Windows Phone ever to transform it in an iPhoney or Android!?
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People People... let him judge for himself. He might have got all the bias reviews of WM from Engadget and Gizmondo, let him see for himself and see how diff the OS's are...
He might see the light
Pappagallo said:
Then why don't you buy an Iphone or an Android phone ??
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I absolutely agree! Why do you want to buy the best Windows Phone ever to transform it in an iPhoney or Android!?
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Because I love everything else about the HD2, its just Ive heard some bad things about wm6.5, and Ive seen when not in sense (like browsing folders) it can look ugly. Dont get me wrong, I love the phone and cant wait for it!
(Oh and I hate apple, I hate everything about them :/ apart from the amazing collection of apps being made for the Iphone/touch)
(Windows boy ;D )
Windows Mobile 6.5 isn't that bad. And you don't spend a huge amount of time outside Manila anymore. Sure, the file explorer isn't that good looking, but it's pretty damn functional!
Try it for yourself, and you will see, Windows Mobile 6.5 is very solid. Lots of tweak. Lots to discover. Amazing.
As for applications, just Google around. There are LOADS!
Thanks man, I will ^^
Know any good app sites?
So Far-
xda developers
freewarepocketpc.net
Ive heard and seen that the M$ app store sucks.
Where can I find ShazamID?
RotteRotte said:
Where can I find ShazamID?
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here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591092&highlight=shazam
For application site try:
Handango
Mobile2Day
PocketGear
The mainstream developers like SpB, SBSH, Resco, Vito etc also all allow downloads direct from their sites.
There are literally thousands of applications available for WinMo- and have been since the iPhone was a twinkle in Jobs' eye Many take advantage of the fact that WinMo is genuinely multi-tasking so can run many apps at once. Some are cheap, other expensive, just like mainstream PC programs. Likewise some are innovative and useful, others total crap
Most come as either EXE files which are run on the PC whilst the WM device is docked, and install from there. Others are CAB files which have to be run locally on the device. The advantage of these is that you can keep copies of all your CAB files on the storage card for re-installation in an emergency if needs be. Combined with a free program like PIMBackup from Dotfred.com, you can be up & running without access to the internet in an emergency
Because I love everything else about the HD2, its just Ive heard some bad things about wm6.5, and Ive seen when not in sense (like browsing folders) it can look ugly. Dont get me wrong, I love the phone and cant wait for it!
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And you believe every bullsh*t that you read somewhere?
You can't trust anyone these days, blogs and sites that were serious sources in the past are now full of iPhone fanboys, like Gizmodo. Don't believe anything you read somewhere, try everything yourself if possible.
To clarify: Windows Mobile is not bad at all. At least it's not worse than the other OSs, Android, iPhone OS, Symbian...
All mobile OSs have lots of flaws these days.
Windows Mobile has a bad UI in some places, but it's very powerful and great parts of the UI are more well thought out than e.g. the iPhone UI (like the homescreen and notofications concept).
iPhone OS lacks critical features and is severly limited, but easy to use.
Android is somewhere in between.
So, no OS is perfect and none is best or worst, they are just different and all have their good and bad sides.
Windows Mobile is still by far the most powerful mobile OS, lots of things that an iPhone or Android device can't do without hacking/jailbreaking or even can't do at all can be done with Windows Mobile out of the box (like the screen locking you asked for, for example).
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after doing loadsa research I know that windows mobile is total crap in comparisson to iphone and android OS's.
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Evidently you are as stupid as you research. Windows Mobile is a FAR superior OS than Android and iPhone.
WM isnt perfect but its a **** load better than either of the OS's you suggest, and thats not to say that future releases of android may be on par, but at the moment there is no comparison.
I would suggest that you hold your tongue when you don't really have a clue about what your saying, firstly if this is your first smart-phone, how the hell can you know if "windows mobile is total crap"
have you ever used it? NO you said so yourself!! also im predicting that you have also never had an Android or an iPhone since they are in the same range of devices!!
Secondly, just to bring you up on something, your spelling is disgraceful!
"doing loadsa research" this statement essentially says "walked into a shop and got a HTC without reading"
anyone who had done research into a particular device would not need to ask your second question as you would know from your research!!!
"comparisson" its comparison! and you have made no comparisons of any kind!
Lastly, from this bank of questions it can easily be seen that you are a moron!!
[★] said:
So I was wondering if a few different apps and such existed to make the HD2 even better
1) Is there an app which lets you put a pin/security code on your phone (like the iphone has) so it needs to be entered before you can access it?
2) Are there any skinning apps to change the appearance of the windows UI when not in sense?
3) Is there anyway to port android/iphone OS to the HTC HD2? (I've seen there a site dedicated to that for android,will they be doing a leo one anytime soon?) plus is it worth it or does it become laggy and such
4) Are there any other cool apps (not tacky games or calculators) which you might suggest for me to put on?
5) How do I install these things, I see most of it is in CAB files, but how do I install them to the phone?
Thanks
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1: yes, you enable the pin!! - Wow that was hard!
2: yeah, search for skinning in the Diamond/Blackstone forum - Again, I think im going to break a sweat answering these
3: yes, it dont work yet but it will be possable - heart palpitations onset!!!
4: yeah, search
5: ROLL ON THE F**KING FLOOR PISSING MYSELF!!! That is amazingly retarded!!!
You have done NO research, you have NO idea what these devices can do, you never will.
you cannot expect people to spoon feed you.
I suggest that you send your HD2 back as it will be way to hard for you to work, also if your questions and statements remain this stupid, i can guarantee that people will not help you!
I really hope you get a HD2 and do something stupid with it like turn it into a nice paper weight because you not read instructions!
ROFL
ENJOY you XMAS Prezzie!!
@Xeon
I was just reading through some of your posts and noticed you sold your HTC HD2, now you've got me worried that my phone ( which had cost alot and been alot of hassle to get) will be a dissapointment to me on christmas day :/
what do you think? Im not planning to use it for too much business stuff, just internet browsing, texts, phoning, facebook, youtube ect
????
MysticGenius said:
Evidently you are as stupid as you research. Windows Mobile is a FAR superior OS than Android and iPhone.
WM isnt perfect but its a **** load better than either of the OS's you suggest, and thats not to say that future releases of android may be on par, but at the moment there is no comparison.
I would suggest that you hold your tongue when you don't really have a clue about what your saying, firstly if this is your first smart-phone, how the hell can you know if "windows mobile is total crap"
have you ever used it? NO you said so yourself!! also im predicting that you have also never had an Android or an iPhone since they are in the same range of devices!!
Secondly, just to bring you up on something, your spelling is disgraceful!
"doing loadsa research" this statement essentially says "walked into a shop and got a HTC without reading"
anyone who had done research into a particular device would not need to ask your second question as you would know from your research!!!
"comparisson" its comparison! and you have made no comparisons of any kind!
Lastly, from this bank of questions it can easily be seen that you are a moron!!
1: yes, you enable the pin!! - Wow that was hard!
2: yeah, search for skinning in the Diamond/Blackstone forum - Again, I think im going to break a sweat answering these
3: yes, it dont work yet but it will be possable - heart palpitations onset!!!
4: yeah, search
5: ROLL ON THE F**KING FLOOR PISSING MYSELF!!! That is amazingly retarded!!!
You have done NO research, you have NO idea what these devices can do, you never will.
you cannot expect people to spoon feed you.
I suggest that you send your HD2 back as it will be way to hard for you to work, also if your questions and statements remain this stupid, i can guarantee that people will not help you!
I really hope you get a HD2 and do something stupid with it like turn it into a nice paper weight because you not read instructions!
ROFL
ENJOY you XMAS Prezzie!!
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You know what? **** you, why the hell are you getting so stressy at me, I'm just starting out and yes, I may have over exagerated a few things, and yes, a couple of words may have been mispelt, but is that really any reason for you to go mad at me? Christ I posted here looking for help, and everyone else HAS been useful apart from you who has just pissed me off by being a complete arrogant idiot who appears to have nothing better to than rant at other people as you knows so much more, because after all, you are the "Cyber Ninja"
Christ sake
NeilM said:
Most come as either EXE files which are run on the PC whilst the WM device is docked, and install from there. Others are CAB files which have to be run locally on the device. The advantage of these is that you can keep copies of all your CAB files on the storage card for re-installation in an emergency if needs be. Combined with a free program like PIMBackup from Dotfred.com, you can be up & running without access to the internet in an emergency
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yeh having CAB files on the memory card or internal storage (diamond) is a seriously great idea whenever you loaded on a new rom, you will always have easy access to all of your favorite apps and programs its just wonderful
MysticGenius said:
Evidently you are as stupid as you research. Windows Mobile is a FAR superior OS than Android and iPhone.
WM isnt perfect but its a **** load better than either of the OS's you suggest, and thats not to say that future releases of android may be on par, but at the moment there is no comparison.
I would suggest that you hold your tongue when you don't really have a clue about what your saying, firstly if this is your first smart-phone, how the hell can you know if "windows mobile is total crap"
have you ever used it? NO you said so yourself!! also im predicting that you have also never had an Android or an iPhone since they are in the same range of devices!!
Secondly, just to bring you up on something, your spelling is disgraceful!
"doing loadsa research" this statement essentially says "walked into a shop and got a HTC without reading"
anyone who had done research into a particular device would not need to ask your second question as you would know from your research!!!
"comparisson" its comparison! and you have made no comparisons of any kind!
Lastly, from this bank of questions it can easily be seen that you are a moron!!
1: yes, you enable the pin!! - Wow that was hard!
2: yeah, search for skinning in the Diamond/Blackstone forum - Again, I think im going to break a sweat answering these
3: yes, it dont work yet but it will be possable - heart palpitations onset!!!
4: yeah, search
5: ROLL ON THE F**KING FLOOR PISSING MYSELF!!! That is amazingly retarded!!!
You have done NO research, you have NO idea what these devices can do, you never will.
you cannot expect people to spoon feed you.
I suggest that you send your HD2 back as it will be way to hard for you to work, also if your questions and statements remain this stupid, i can guarantee that people will not help you!
I really hope you get a HD2 and do something stupid with it like turn it into a nice paper weight because you not read instructions!
ROFL
ENJOY you XMAS Prezzie!!
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^ thats so sad i cant believe we actually have people on this forum (actually a quite know person in this case) who acts so disrespectful towards new members...
So what if he didn't do so much research? what is the big problem? if you get so mad then press the red "X" on the tab or press "back". no one says you have to answer right?
And no OS is better than another. Windows Mobile may be the best in your and my opinion, but Iphone OS might be better for the average user, who is not tech interested but just want a phone that works, and are able to do a lot, without them having to learn a lot of new stuff. No matter what you say i have no doubt that the iphone OS is more intuitive out of the box than Windows Mobile is. (i am gonna get flamed now )
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You know what? **** you, why the hell are you getting so stressy at me, I'm just starting out and yes, I may have over exagerated a few things, and yes, a couple of words may have been mispelt, but is that really any reason for you to go mad at me? Christ I posted here looking for help, and everyone else HAS been useful apart from you who has just pissed me off by being a complete arrogant idiot who appears to have nothing better to than rant at other people as you knows so much more, because after all, you are the "Cyber Ninja"
Christ sake
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Firstly this isnt a personal attack, it is to balance out the damage posts like this can do to devices like this. this is usually the first place people come when researching HTC devices, since this is the foremost site for HTC devices.
For EG if someone actually wanted a HTC HD2, came here to research the device and its capabilities, then read your post and the others like it they probably will drop the device and move to iPhone!
but now, if they read the thread and see a post like this defending the devices it counter balances the mis-statements in your post.
In the last month since this device has come out, due to the popularity of the iPhone and subsequent hardware/software problems pertaining towards the device, people like you have been buying the HTC HD2 before you know what your getting into and posting threads like this ALL over the forum eg:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598035
&
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598035
etc.
Also i specifically reference to this post HERE for a full explanation of why i flamed!!
these people have basically done the same as you, got/getting the phone and slagging it off before it has even arrived.
this device is the best device of its kind available, and as with everything if you know how to use it you can improve the device and its function, but coming onto a forum BEFORE you have even held the device and saying its **** is just plain stupid and you deserve to get flamed.
as for attacking me, "Cyber Ninja" well yes, i fix alot of things here and i also seem to be the one who speaks straight and doesnt give a crap if i offend, i just speak what people think.
you could have answered ANY of your questions with the search button!
To quote the Moderators:
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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notice how this is the first rule!
Just incase you cant find it here is a picture of the search function:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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and i have read the thread, and most people have not been helpful, quite a few basically tell you to "Go Buy an Android or iPhone"
Pappagallo said:
Then why don't you buy an Iphone or an Android phone ??
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aiwama said:
I absolutely agree! Why do you want to buy the best Windows Phone ever to transform it in an iPhoney or Android!?
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so please dnt try and get me with that innocent crap!
I think if you get the device i would be extremely useful to you since i can provide most of the "softwares" you are looking for, things that should be discussed via PM! you get me?
also for themes you may want to see my themeing thread: HERE I also have 90% of the visual tweaks mapped out to the registry and have started posting the items: HERE
i fixed the GPS Location Issues on the Diamond, and i also think that my method is still fastest about, as i get fix in about 3 seconds WITHOUT the Modded GPS Driver.
MG
Hi,
No flaming!
Hojlind said:
So what if he didn't do so much research? what is the big problem? if you get so mad then press the red "X" on the tab or press "back". no one says you have to answer right?
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To quote the Moderators:
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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notice how this is the first rule!
Just incase you cant find it here is a picture of the search function:
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Hojlind said:
And no OS is better than another. Windows Mobile may be the best in your and my opinion
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Well no, it is better because the capability to do anything is there you just have to know how to do it! hence it is a more complete OS.
I agree with this:
Hojlind said:
but Iphone OS might be better for the average user, who is not tech interested but just want a phone that works, and are able to do a lot, without them having to learn a lot of new stuff. No matter what you say i have no doubt that the iphone OS is more intuitive out of the box than Windows Mobile is. (i am gonna get flamed now )
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BUT... with the speed that people learn things, the "Average User" may find the iPhone good until they understand its limitations, then it becomes a crap os!
I got my MUM and iPhone for her birthday in July, by mid Nov she sold it because the phone was too basic, the sat nav apps were rubbish, wifi over heated, bluetooth didnt work unless it was iphone to iphone, no mms etc etc and a whole host of other things.
not she is on HTC any time the thinks of something she needs her phone to do, she just asks me and the phone can do it!!
EG: she has 3 different sat navs, iGO8, Navigon & TomTom. she has TMC working through the FM Receiver on the phone and TTS! that on its own is nearly £700 if you go to the shop and buy a satnav with TMC & TTS.
this cannot be dont on the other phones!
the problem is as i said iPhone quickly becomes easy to use and boring, as with the andriob, but this will get better as im sure we all no.
my problem is that the more bad mouthing HTC gets the less people get the devices, the less people buy the fewer new devices we get to play with!
MG
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You know what? **** you, why the hell are you getting so stressy at me, I'm just starting out and yes, I may have over exagerated a few things, and yes, a couple of words may have been mispelt, but is that really any reason for you to go mad at me? Christ I posted here looking for help, and everyone else HAS been useful apart from you who has just pissed me off by being a complete arrogant idiot who appears to have nothing better to than rant at other people as you knows so much more, because after all, you are the "Cyber Ninja"
Christ sake
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Check you PM, i have sent you a site that you will get ANYTHING for PPC.
MG
It would appear that our long wait is drawing to end and the 2.1 should be released shortly. Unfortunately, there are some features that us soon to be 2.1 owners might still be missing to complete our X10 experience.
In order to get a jump on future improvements this thread is a place where you can comment on features that you would like to see added/cooked to our X10's after the revision.
What feature would you like to see added? Portable HotSpots, Voice Command over Bluetooth, Data backup, 10.1, etc...
Or, maybe you know about an existing work around and would like to spread the word?
Portable hotspots can be done now (with root access)...Barnacle WiFi Tether from the Market.
Besides for Flash and the speed improvements, I don't really need Froyo. Automatic app updates would be nice, and voice commands too, but I doubt I'd ever really use that.
I've already used froyo on my nexus one when I had it and I couldn't care less for froyo. 2.1 is most definitely good enough for me. 720p video recording, 16million colors is all I want. Mt doesn't matter either. 2.1 drops and ill be set.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
chris_knows said:
Portable hotspots can be done now (with root access)...Barnacle WiFi Tether from the Market.
Besides for Flash and the speed improvements, I don't really need Froyo. Automatic app updates would be nice, and voice commands too, but I doubt I'd ever really use that.
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Thanks for the info on Barnacle. Have you used it? Maybe this is a silly question, but I know you lose SE updates with root. Would auto app updates still work from a rooted device?
And, 10.1 yeah that is a pretty big one. I really don't need a cell phone/portable device, but since I have it, 10.1 is a big yes. Kind of THE reason I purchased the X10.
fm1776 said:
And, 10.1 yeah that is a pretty big one. I really don't need a cell phone/portable device, but since I have it, 10.1 is a big yes. Kind of THE reason I purchased the X10.
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You purchased a phone based on it's potential ability to run an incredibly useless web plug-in?
Do you really like advertisements?
Slowmotion video recording, just as new droid has.
tigger69 said:
unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
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Well if this turns out to be true there will be even more upset X10 owners than there already are.
iead1 said:
You purchased a phone based on it's potential ability to run an incredibly useless web plug-in?
Do you really like advertisements?
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This is a friendly thread, please no personal attacks or flaming.
Wonder that with a rooted mobile app can get payment is via market, hotspots, screenshot, but not an app that can do that stored on the sdcard instead of internal...Sorry for my semi OT...
dong2007 said:
Wonder that with a rooted mobile app can get payment is via market, hotspots, screenshot, but not an app that can do that stored on the sdcard instead of internal...Sorry for my semi OT...
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It never crossed my mind. A valid point.
Apps to sdcard would be a blessing. I hope this could be added. It would make a root worth while.
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This is a friendly thread, please no personal attacks or flaming.
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Not a personal attack or flaming.
I'm curious to why Flash is needed on a mobile phone. The option to have it is nice, but it not being there is definitely not a drawback. Most big video sites use HTML5 for video now, and for the few that don't, Skyfire works fine in loading the videos up. The only other things Flash is used for is ads, games and poorly designed websites. For games, 95% would control absolutely awfully, due to the lack of physical controls on the device. And no one wants to view ads if they don't have to.
Hence, my reasoning for not considering a "lack" of Flash as a "limitation" of 2.1.
fm1776 said:
Well if this turns out to be true there will be even more upset X10 owners than there already are.
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The thing is, we all bought this phone knowing it supports 65k colors.
SE didn't say anywhere that it will get 16mil with 2.1 upgrade ... or anything else.
People assumed is a 1.6 downside (like the 256Mb ram vs 384) and because the mini was advertised as 16mil it means X10 has it too.
Time will tell if is a driver issue or hardware issue
Not having 16m colors is kind of a bummer. Not really needed though.
All i'm really looking forward to at this point is the app compatibility. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
iead1 said:
Not a personal attack or flaming.
I'm curious to why Flash is needed on a mobile phone. The option to have it is nice, but it not being there is definitely not a drawback. Most big video sites use HTML5 for video now, and for the few that don't, Skyfire works fine in loading the videos up. The only other things Flash is used for is ads, games and poorly designed websites. For games, 95% would control absolutely awfully, due to the lack of physical controls on the device. And no one wants to view ads if they don't have to.
Hence, my reasoning for not considering a "lack" of Flash as a "limitation" of 2.1.
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It's needed because it's highly desired and also available on other phones - I don't mean to sound cynical or rhetoric but I certainly want it for a variety of reasons. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. Even so, many people like myself highly desire this.
unfortunatley it looks like there will be no 16m colors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781692
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They say "at this time" which tells me not with 2.1 but maybe with that updtate to timescape/mediascape they are talking about....if not I think I will be a unhappy camper.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
fm1776 said:
It never crossed my mind. A valid point.
Apps to sdcard would be a blessing. I hope this could be added. It would make a root worth while.
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+1, only thing i'd really really like to see enginered to our 2.1 is app2sd. Not that i have so many apps it's a total need for it, just becouse i like it that way. Feels better to have a clean rom. Easier to re-flash and play around with cooked roms without having to re-install all apps aswell.
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Not sure how many people have seen this and whether they believe it to be real.
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/09/11/android-roadmap-leaked-for-xperia-x10-family/
I reckon the chance of getting anything additional to whats been listed (If this is real) are fairly low taking into account the SE software development speed we've come to know and love.
"Most truths we're once deemed blasphemies"
Reeonimus said:
Not having 16m colors is kind of a bummer. Not really needed though.
All i'm really looking forward to at this point is the app compatibility. Anything else is just icing on the cake.
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It doesn't really effect me either. But I know that there will be people who might be left wanting.
We all want different things from our X10's. The idea of the thread is that we high light what is important to each of us. And, we can post work around as we find them.
bongd said:
It's needed because it's highly desired and also available on other phones - I don't mean to sound cynical or rhetoric but I certainly want it for a variety of reasons. It's not as bad as you make it out to be. Even so, many people like myself highly desire this.
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I am with you on that. If I could only ask for one thing it would start with 10.1.
Not saying that there isn't a list of other things that I would like. Such as apps2sd. We can only hope and wait for someone to either come up with a work around or buy a device with more features.